Re: Goodbye Seamonkey
Russell wrote: As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but that it must be an ‘all or nothing' suite. So if you need to use another email client then it will just screw up your whole way of working. I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors' decision with the Firefox crowd to justify Mozilla supporting a second browser project, and they then agreed that Seamonkey would only continue as an integrated suite, and that's the only way users will be able to use it (fatal error imo). The Firefox crowd will be happy to hear that I know of at least 5 users (this week alone) who have moved to other browsers as there is no upgrade path for them beyond v1.1.18. Meanwhile Firefox continues to offer an email client (Thunderbird) as a OPTION and that's probably where they will go, as have I, for now. But this whole thing smacks of nasty backroom BS. I'll hold my nose and use Firefox for now. But it's sad to have to say goodbye to a browser I've used and promoted for so many years. R. Why would you want to use another E-mail client? I think that most people that gravitate towards Seamonkey do it because of the all-in-one browser/e-mail client integration. Lou ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups
Eric wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Eric wrote: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric Is this happening on this server, another server all servers? I would say check your account settings, but we need more information to give any real specific help. Lee This is happening on my ISP (Kinda) Server. I connect via Verizon but support efn.org a local grassroots organization that provides internet service. Anyway I don't have the settings requiring authorization on connecting and I'm using port 119 and the connection security selection is none. Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit DSL 128K Seamonkey 2.0.2 So far as I know, Verizon has discontinued newsgroup access, so your answer does not compute ;) In SM 2.0.2, you must have at least one newsgroup account set up. For example, to post here, one would expect that you ahve an account set up for news.mozilla.org. You may have others, there are several free and paid news servers out there, but Verizon no longer supplies one. So, on which account or accounts are you ahving this problem? Is it here on news.mozilla.org, on another account, or on all accounts? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups
Leonidas Jones wrote: Eric wrote: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric Is this happening on this server, another server all servers? I would say check your account settings, but we need more information to give any real specific help. Lee This is happening on my ISP (Kinda) Server. I connect via Verizon but support efn.org a local grassroots organization that provides internet service. Anyway I don't have the settings requiring authorization on connecting and I'm using port 119 and the connection security selection is none. Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit DSL 128K Seamonkey 2.0.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups
Leonidas Jones wrote: Eric wrote: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric Is this happening on this server, another server all servers? I would say check your account settings, but we need more information to give any real specific help. Lee Sounds like for some reason you have *always request authentication on this server* set. I have one server, Annexcafe that requires it. It the method they use to prevent Spam. I've been on it for years and I yet to see a piece of spam. And they have strict rules, as well. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups
Eric wrote: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric Is this happening on this server, another server all servers? I would say check your account settings, but we need more information to give any real specific help. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups
This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Any ideas? TIA Eric ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Goodbye Seamonkey
As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but that it must be an all or nothing' suite. So if you need to use another email client then it will just screw up your whole way of working. I'm convinced that this was a behind the doors' decision with the Firefox crowd to justify Mozilla supporting a second browser project, and they then agreed that Seamonkey would only continue as an integrated suite, and that's the only way users will be able to use it (fatal error imo). The Firefox crowd will be happy to hear that I know of at least 5 users (this week alone) who have moved to other browsers as there is no upgrade path for them beyond v1.1.18. Meanwhile Firefox continues to offer an email client (Thunderbird) as a OPTION and that's probably where they will go, as have I, for now. But this whole thing smacks of nasty backroom BS. I'll hold my nose and use Firefox for now. But it's sad to have to say goodbye to a browser I've used and promoted for so many years. R. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: E-Mail adress suggestions
Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I did not know if i am dreaming or not, but i have the impression that: with SM1.1.18 the mail adress suggestions list when begining to type an adress was a list beginning with/sorted by "last recently used". Now with SM 2.0.2 it looks like a sort of a strange alphabetic order. Is a bug already filled ? Am i wrong ? Nobody have seen this ? I think it's some kind of weighted LRU, I get the impression that if you make the same choice it rises (or something like that). If I email someone at their home rather than work the order changes at times. It looks like the LRU mechanism has dissappeared in 2.0.2. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tutorial?
On 01/28/2010 02:44 AM, BJ wrote: > Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this > thing. Defaults are still TB and FF. > > Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it > drives. > > But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys > can point me to? > > BJ You might find these helpful: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/ http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/ http://howtointernet.net/tutorials.html http://howtointernet.net/email.html http://howtointernet.net/walkthrough/email/seamonkey/index.html http://howtointernet.net/browsers.html http://howtointernet.net/walkthrough/browsers/seamonkey/20a1/index.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tutorial?
BJ wrote: Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this thing. Defaults are still TB and FF. Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it drives. But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys can point me to? Wish I could, there was one I had bookmarked for SM 1.1.xx series, but honestly 1.1.xx and 2.x.x are compatible mostly at the acronym level, consider the suite as a wild animal, and poke it here and there to see what it does. You are probably learning faster than reading a tutorial, browsing through the menus and about:config will give you things to try. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible minor bug
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I've just noticed a minor bug I've had to go to several websites (bank and such today - Pay bills - every one has to). I just noticed the padlock remains open even on secure sites Only the the background changes from white to yellow. This is on any https site. The padlock should change Background , and the it should appear locked. Phillip, I just checked my two banking sites. The first, my everyday money account is with a credit union www.defcredit.com.au, and when I selected that I wanted to log-in an new page opened and the lock was closed. With the second bank, my home loan account www.westpac.com.au, even at its main page there is no padlock, open or closed, just a "Westpac Banking Corporation" panel in the bottom right, which if you mouse-over, shows a "Authenticated by Verisign.Inc" screen. Maybe it's not a bug with SeaMonkey2.x.x!! Daniel Yes it turns out the theme I was using was the fault. which was the Orbit 3+1 2.0 is the fault. Looks I can't find an outside Theme other than the two SeaMonkey themes that work right. Shucks what the heck is wrong with these theme writer. I had gotten use to the orbit theme. Well that seems to be the only thing wrong with it. I like it so much I'll use it despite this defect. I don't suppose the author comes to this forum. I just checked "Mostly Crystal" (v2.0.1) works correctly on the lock, although only the icon in the selector bar gets a yellow background. Obvious what it means, though. I should check my other themes, but time is short and the only themes I use regularly are Mostly Crystal and Halloween, the latter for classes, to get people looking at the screen. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: E-Mail adress suggestions
Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I did not know if i am dreaming or not, but i have the impression that: with SM1.1.18 the mail adress suggestions list when begining to type an adress was a list beginning with/sorted by "last recently used". Now with SM 2.0.2 it looks like a sort of a strange alphabetic order. Is a bug already filled ? Am i wrong ? Nobody have seen this ? I think it's some kind of weighted LRU, I get the impression that if you make the same choice it rises (or something like that). If I email someone at their home rather than work the order changes at times. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't have multiple IMAP mail accounts in 2.02?
S. Beaulieu wrote: OEU a écrit : Either way, I'm never presented the option to select what KIND of account I want to add. The first screen in the wizard asks for my name and email address, and the second wizard screen asks for my NNTP news sever. Apparently, I only have the option to add more newsgroup accounts, not a second IMAP mail account. I had a similar problem after I created a newsgroup account. For some reason, the Wizard didn't give me the option, after that, to create anything but NNTP accounts. Someone had posted a solution, which was to change something in the prefs. I don't remember what and I suck at searching in Bugzilla. I found the following, which is rather similar and gives you a string to change. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 If that's not it, maybe someone else will have better luck than me locating the proper Bugzilla report. S. Thank you, that's it! Apparently something went screwy with my "news.mozilla.org" newsgroup account. So the New Account Wizard wasn't presenting the "Type of Account" screen, but rather jumped right in to trying to "fix" that account. The link you provided talked about manually changing your "prefs.js" file, but I found that simply deleting the "broken" account and re-creating it does the trick also. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't have multiple IMAP mail accounts in 2.02?
OEU a écrit : Either way, I'm never presented the option to select what KIND of account I want to add. The first screen in the wizard asks for my name and email address, and the second wizard screen asks for my NNTP news sever. Apparently, I only have the option to add more newsgroup accounts, not a second IMAP mail account. I had a similar problem after I created a newsgroup account. For some reason, the Wizard didn't give me the option, after that, to create anything but NNTP accounts. Someone had posted a solution, which was to change something in the prefs. I don't remember what and I suck at searching in Bugzilla. I found the following, which is rather similar and gives you a string to change. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 If that's not it, maybe someone else will have better luck than me locating the proper Bugzilla report. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't have multiple IMAP mail accounts in 2.02?
OEU wrote: My primary email account in Seamonkey Mail is an IMAP account, and I'm trying to also setup a secondary account that I use for mailing lists. I've tried this using two methods. The first is going to "File->New->Account...". The second is right-clicking on an existing account, selecting "Setting", and clicking the "Add Account" button on the pop-up. Either way, I'm never presented the option to select what KIND of account I want to add. The first screen in the wizard asks for my name and email address, and the second wizard screen asks for my NNTP news sever. Apparently, I only have the option to add more newsgroup accounts, not a second IMAP mail account. Am I really missing something obvious, or is this a known bug in 2.02? Thanks in advance! I have 10 distinct IMAP accounts set up in SM 2.0.2 Mail/News, so it is clearly possib le. There are several ways to access the add account wizard. File>>New>>Account works, as does Edit>>Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings>>Add Account. Your right CLick version also gets you into Account Settings. When I click the Add Account link, I am presented with a dialog to set the type of account, email, Blogs and News Feeds, Newsgroup account, as well as a couple of others that are platform specific. Select Email Account, then Continue. On the next page, enter your name and email address, click Continue. On the third page of the wizard, where you enter your incoming server informatio is where you make the choice between POP or IMAP. Sounds to me like you are clicking through the first page of the wizard without making the proper selection, though, since Email account is the default setting, I'm not sure how you are getting into the Newsgroup setup dialog. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't have multiple IMAP mail accounts in 2.02?
OEU wrote: My primary email account in Seamonkey Mail is an IMAP account, and I'm trying to also setup a secondary account that I use for mailing lists. I've tried this using two methods. The first is going to "File->New->Account...". The second is right-clicking on an existing account, selecting "Setting", and clicking the "Add Account" button on the pop-up. Either way, I'm never presented the option to select what KIND of account I want to add. The first screen in the wizard asks for my name and email address, and the second wizard screen asks for my NNTP news sever. Apparently, I only have the option to add more newsgroup accounts, not a second IMAP mail account. Am I really missing something obvious, or is this a known bug in 2.02? Thanks in advance! Okay, that's REALLY weird. In addition to the behavior noted above, I'm also noticing that whatever I put into that "new" account wizard is actually updating THIS newsgroup account (news.mozilla.org). That "OEU" name for the parent post was just some gobbledygook I put in the wizard right before sending this message. Why would the "New" Account Wizard be erroneously modifying an existing account? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't have multiple IMAP mail accounts in 2.02?
My primary email account in Seamonkey Mail is an IMAP account, and I'm trying to also setup a secondary account that I use for mailing lists. I've tried this using two methods. The first is going to "File->New->Account...". The second is right-clicking on an existing account, selecting "Setting", and clicking the "Add Account" button on the pop-up. Either way, I'm never presented the option to select what KIND of account I want to add. The first screen in the wizard asks for my name and email address, and the second wizard screen asks for my NNTP news sever. Apparently, I only have the option to add more newsgroup accounts, not a second IMAP mail account. Am I really missing something obvious, or is this a known bug in 2.02? Thanks in advance! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: E-Mail adress suggestions
Ray_Net wrote: I did not know if i am dreaming or not, but i have the impression that: with SM1.1.18 the mail adress suggestions list when begining to type an adress was a list beginning with/sorted by "last recently used". Now with SM 2.0.2 it looks like a sort of a strange alphabetic order. Is a bug already filled ? Am i wrong ? Nobody have seen this ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned
John Doue wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip No I'll let it die. Sailfish has. No sense in beating a dead horse. I think Sailfish is letting the website die. Something must have happen to him because based on my reading his forums One day he was talking about doing updates and the next day and the very next day the message came up that he was discontinuing work. A pity. It would be nice if someone felt up to the task of updating it ... Maybe Phil Chee could ask Sailfish permission to take over it and Toy Factory it has Bright yellow Background. I believe he must be sick or had an illness in the family. because it stopped work so abruptly. Loved to find out about him. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned
John Doue wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked on the link I had saved. and went back to SailFish Bulletin Board. At first I didn't see any post. So I set to view post in Last 90 days. Turns Out That Salfish has quit work on SkyPilot and many of his other themes. Saying to due to unforeseen circumstances he is stopping all work on SkyPilot Theme. Is Offerring to allow other people with his permission to take over work. But reserve the rights to work on it in the future. So for all intents and purposes SPC is dead in the water. Its the best theme ever designed by anyone for SM, FF, or TB. I'll switch to it. make a screenshot and post a link so you all can see it. FWIW, SkyPilot works fine on FF 3.6 How did you make work in FF I go to site for it and it doesn't even come up an install screen for it it show this theme not available for this Browser? Simple. I make it a habit to store theme files. I just loaded the one I have into FF 3.6, which was initially meant for FF 2.x and proves to be compatible. If anyone is interested, I will be happy to post it wherever indicated, inasmuch the author does not object. I tried fudging the user agent Got it to install but it used a .jar file *not* an xpi. would not work. Send to my email address. sorry left out a word added it above. Was this word ... please? :-) Actually it was Pretty, Pretty Please. But installed and it didn't work Looking further into the issue, I realized that the theme does not work perfectly: it does not display the navigation toolbar, which restricts a lot its useability. No other anomaly that I can find so far. Could you be a little more specific about what does not Work? For me everything works except it conflict with Quote colors. besides put each person quote if you will, into separate colors it changes the > or thick "|" into a very thin "|" (| is used as format flowed character) when QC is working correctly beside text being colored depending up the depth of the thread you have a series of |'s example three quotes deep would be |||. Each a different color. two would be ||. one would be |. using SkyPilot only they show as ||| >>>, || >> and, | >; Respectively. This affects SM and TB only as For FireFox when it did work (FF2) it worked perfectly I think what the problem is the Jar file in SkyPilot Classic, inserted the file in the mail Chrome and with SM 2 and FF 3 , they are inserted somewhere else. I can get it to load, into FF But it does change anything even when selected because FF 3 doesn't expect it there, in the main chrome. If I knew where themes are installed I'd place there. what was neat was that Sailfish came out with some sub skins which change to colors used. I never used the other colors because I liked it. and although the blue background was very dark as you hovered over an item it glowed as if some one turn on a 100 watt light bulb behind it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned
Phillip Jones wrote: snip No I'll let it die. Sailfish has. No sense in beating a dead horse. I think Sailfish is letting the website die. Something must have happen to him because based on my reading his forums One day he was talking about doing updates and the next day and the very next day the message came up that he was discontinuing work. A pity. It would be nice if someone felt up to the task of updating it ... -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SkyPilot Classic Theme abandoned
Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 6:06 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 3:58 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: John Doue wrote: On 1/28/2010 4:17 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: I've been commenting about I wish the SkyPilot Classic Theme was updated. Will I had a couple of old post where I asked if they would fix the theme. Well I clicked on the link I had saved. and went back to SailFish Bulletin Board. At first I didn't see any post. So I set to view post in Last 90 days. Turns Out That Salfish has quit work on SkyPilot and many of his other themes. Saying to due to unforeseen circumstances he is stopping all work on SkyPilot Theme. Is Offerring to allow other people with his permission to take over work. But reserve the rights to work on it in the future. So for all intents and purposes SPC is dead in the water. Its the best theme ever designed by anyone for SM, FF, or TB. I'll switch to it. make a screenshot and post a link so you all can see it. FWIW, SkyPilot works fine on FF 3.6 How did you make work in FF I go to site for it and it doesn't even come up an install screen for it it show this theme not available for this Browser? Simple. I make it a habit to store theme files. I just loaded the one I have into FF 3.6, which was initially meant for FF 2.x and proves to be compatible. If anyone is interested, I will be happy to post it wherever indicated, inasmuch the author does not object. I tried fudging the user agent Got it to install but it used a .jar file *not* an xpi. would not work. Send to my email address. sorry left out a word added it above. Was this word ... please? :-) Actually it was Pretty, Pretty Please. But installed and it didn't work Looking further into the issue, I realized that the theme does not work perfectly: it does not display the navigation toolbar, which restricts a lot its useability. No other anomaly that I can find so far. Could you be a little more specific about what does not Work? -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
