OT ISP's (was: Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)
Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: Snip ...OTOH, they made a SERIOUS mess of upgrading our e-mail service - took a month or two to get that sorted, but they seem to have it fixed. Hey, Rufus, did you get lots of e-mails (from your ISP) requesting you to log into your account?? I do!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP authentication problem
Oops. Wrong newsgroup. On 10/02/2010 13:22, Philip Chee wrote: On 10/02/2010 10:16, Philip Chee wrote: Forwarding to the developer newsgroups. On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:06:46 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote: The manager of eternal-september news reports seeing SeaMonkey trying to post before authenticated. This definitely looks like a problem with your newsreader, as it starts a connection without authenticating, tries to post and gets an error and then properly authenticates, all on the same connection. Also, please note that it keeps the connection open for 20 seconds despite the error and then makes up its mind to use authentication. As I said, these Thundermonkeys are really weird. In case you didn't see this question in the Thunderbird developer newsgroup, here is the question again: If you go into the Account Settings, Server Settings page, is the Always request authentication... option selected? Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't install search plugins on SM2?
Tom S. wrote: Margo Guda wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install some of the search plugins listed on mozilla add ons as compatible with SM 2. I'm using 2.02 now. When I try to install the search plugin, such as the rapidshare file finder, a message pops up saying Sorry you need a mozilla capable browser such as firefox... but this add on is listed for Seamonkey 2! Margo. Have you tried the Search Engine Wizard extension? It will let you make your own search plugins. The version for Seamonkey can be found here: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#searchenginewizard Thanks, I tried installing it but nothing changed. They do say on the page that it's better if you also install xsidebar. I tried your suggestion and find that xsidebar seriously messes up tabbed browsing - the tab bar will only show one tab, and pressing the home button does not have any effect - I've disabled it. But the search engine addition won't work. Too bad. - I actually liked the new xsidebar. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
Keith Whaley wrote: I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley To my knowledge I am unaware of any method to strip jpegs for messages. And it would be a liability to have such. For the very reason you state the only item should be stripped is when you actually open the message containing such. the way I do, is either use the three pane mode add, scroll the list of files (directories) I have setup until the desired one is line up with or close to the message then I drag and drop. Or in 1.1.18 the is a item on toolbar that says *File* click that mouse down to desired email address the choose desired directory and click on it the whole thing is moved. I've been using 2.0 for several months now so I don't remember if there is anyway to set to strip images. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Archive feature in IMAP mail
I see there is a new Mail Archive feature in SM2. I don't find a description of it in the SM2 Help, but on the web I found the following The new Archive feature (inspired by Gmail) automatically moves a message to an archive folder when you hit A with a message open or select Message | Archive. The archives folder layout sorts messages by year, with subfolders for each month. Does this work with an IMAP server? If so, presumably the Archive folder is on the IMAP server. What happens if you have an IMAP server that does not support sub-folders? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.2 in Vista
Rick Merrill wrote: Pat Welch wrote: Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. I can't see Vista is the problem. I'm on Vista and haven't seen any problem with it, with SM or anything else on it. But I still run SM 2.0 and that may be a difference. -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
On 2/10/2010 5:33 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley To my knowledge I am unaware of any method to strip jpegs for messages. Can't you right-click (or whatever the action is for Mac) on the attachment in the Attachments window and select detach or delete from the context menu? And it would be a liability to have such. For the very reason you state the only item should be stripped is when you actually open the message containing such. Huh? What liability? It's your data - you can do with it what you want. And why do you think an attachment should be stripped just by opening a message? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
Mark Hansen a écrit : Can't you right-click (or whatever the action is for Mac) on the attachment in the Attachments window and select detach or delete from the context menu? You have to be careful with the Attach function, though. Unless it has changed, it removes whatever was detached from the message itself for good. You can't get it back again. That's why I prefer the Save As method (also accessed through a right-click)... S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 2/10/2010 5:33 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley To my knowledge I am unaware of any method to strip jpegs for messages. Can't you right-click (or whatever the action is for Mac) on the attachment in the Attachments window and select detach or delete from the context menu? And it would be a liability to have such. For the very reason you state the only item should be stripped is when you actually open the message containing such. Huh? What liability? It's your data - you can do with it what you want. And why do you think an attachment should be stripped just by opening a message? Except in the case just stated. He went to move post from one directory and his attachments disappeared with out he wanting them to. Its just as easy to click on the actual attachment the choose to delete. Rather than striping them before you even get to look at them. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
On 2/10/2010 9:38 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 2/10/2010 5:33 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley To my knowledge I am unaware of any method to strip jpegs for messages. Can't you right-click (or whatever the action is for Mac) on the attachment in the Attachments window and select detach or delete from the context menu? And it would be a liability to have such. For the very reason you state the only item should be stripped is when you actually open the message containing such. Huh? What liability? It's your data - you can do with it what you want. And why do you think an attachment should be stripped just by opening a message? Except in the case just stated. He went to move post from one directory and his attachments disappeared with out he wanting them to. Did you even read what you wrote? You said there would be a liability in allowing the user to strip attachments from messages. As for the OP, it sounded to me more like the message got lost, not that the attachment was removed from the message. Its just as easy to click on the actual attachment the choose to delete. Rather than striping them before you even get to look at them. Whatever you say. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP authentication problem
Philip Chee wrote: Oops. Wrong newsgroup. Your Subject change is correct!-) I have removed the check for new postings every blah and have not encountered the problem again! Perhaps this was causing the unsynchronized authentication problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 2/10/2010 9:38 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 2/10/2010 5:33 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: I use a Mac OS 10.6.2 and SM 1.1.18 for my email client. I've had occasion recently to receive short emails from a friend, with one or two jpegs attached. I wanted the entire message, with attachments, in a different folder, so I used _Control/Click/Move To_ to move the email. I looked in the new location, and there were NO JPEG containing messages in that folder at all! What happened to it/them? I looked in Trash, no jpegs. That incoming message is GONE! I've had this happen several times now, and haven't a clue as to what has happened, but I've LOST some important jpegs! Advice/help please? (The Subject line is just a guess.) keith whaley To my knowledge I am unaware of any method to strip jpegs for messages. Can't you right-click (or whatever the action is for Mac) on the attachment in the Attachments window and select detach or delete from the context menu? And it would be a liability to have such. For the very reason you state the only item should be stripped is when you actually open the message containing such. Huh? What liability? It's your data - you can do with it what you want. And why do you think an attachment should be stripped just by opening a message? Except in the case just stated. He went to move post from one directory and his attachments disappeared with out he wanting them to. Did you even read what you wrote? You said there would be a liability in allowing the user to strip attachments from messages. Yes I read what I wrote. As for the OP, it sounded to me more like the message got lost, not that the attachment was removed from the message. Noe he said he moved it. and the images were stripped. The only way items should be stripped. Is if you actually make a conscious effort to do so. Not by some strange problem in the Software , not by accidentally ticking a buried command. Its just as easy to click on the actual attachment the choose to delete. Rather than striping them before you even get to look at them. Whatever you say. It is just as easy. open the image right click or control click on image choose delete. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
On 2/10/2010 10:58 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Noe he said he moved it. and the images were stripped. Actually, what the OP said was: That incoming message is GONE! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email failure
n...@home a écrit : I have SM 2.0.2 on two computers, one with windowsxp and one with vista. Until today, I was receiving email on the same account with whichever pc I was using. Today, however, on the vista pc, when I went to read my email, there were no new mails, and when I demanded that it download mails, it connected to the POP server, said it was downloading 1 of 19 items, then after about a minute said the connection had timed out. I went to my isps web site, and was able to read emails there. I didn't read all of them. When I went back to the seamonkey reader, I got the same failure, although this time the message about dowloading 1 of 19 reflected that I had deleted some of the emails when I visited the web site. So apparently I am connecting enough to know how many emails there are, but something is preventing me from receiving the actual emails. I went to my windowsxp box and it is still working flawlessly, downloading the messages as both boxes used to. I thought perhaps a firewall setting was the problem, but I have the same FSAV program on both computers, and I don't see any dissimilar settings, and I had not done anything with the FSAV before the probem happened. I went to my ISP and the first cantalyst said using the same account name from two computers could cause the server to crash. I thought it was unlikely that it would crash for one computer and still work for the other, and certainly they would have noticed that one of their servers was crashing, but what do I know? The second analyst made more sense, but said they didn't support seamonkey, and suggested it was a problem with my vista pc or my firewall. So what can I do to fix this thing? Incidentally, and obviously, I am not having problems with the newsgroups. you should beter use IMAP for sharing mail between 2 computers ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)
Rufus skriver: Most of the things that annoyed me about the new default theme had to do with it's cursor/click hot areas - there was/is a lot of area in the taskbar where I felt I should have been able to right click (cntrl+click) that were/are dead...so that was both non-intuitive and difficult - particularly with my MacBook Pro trackpad. The other thing was the lack of grippie function for the Sidebars - lots of chat here about the Apple standard not allowing them the way they were/are in the Modern theme...I think the best suggestion was to just make the whole bar function as a grippie, vice just a small patch around the center dot. These two issues alone drove me screaming to the Modern theme after about a week...been far happier using that one. Thunderbird doesn't have any grippies. What do you actually think is better from a mac point of view in Thunderbird? Note that I'm not arguing/challenging here - I'm just trying to understand what you think is better in thunderbird from a mac pov. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Archive feature in IMAP mail
Am 10.02.2010 15:54 schrieb David Wilkinson: I see there is a new Mail Archive feature in SM2. I don't find a description of it in the SM2 Help Even worse, there hasn't even been a bug report for that. My bad. Now there is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545480 The new Archive feature (inspired by Gmail) automatically moves a message to an archive folder when you hit A with a message open or select Message | Archive. In SeaMonkey it's Shift+A. And there's a context menu item as well. The archives folder layout sorts messages by year, with subfolders for each month. That's the default. You can change the behavior using the mail.server.serverX.archive_granularity pref. From the source: This attribute and constants control the granularity of sub-folders of the Archives folder - either messages go in the single archive folder, or a yearly archive folder, or in a monthly archive folder with a yearly parent folder. If the server doesn't support folders that both contain messages and have sub-folders, we will ignore this setting. Single Archive Folder = 0 Per-Year Archive Folders = 1 Per-Month Archive Folders = 2 As I wrote above the default is 1. Note that AFAIK sub folders are not created automatically currently. You need to do that manually once for each year/month. Or maybe I'm wrong and only the subscribing doesn't work. Or not always. Anyway, once the correct folder hierarchy is visible in MailNews the Archive functionality works as expected. Does this work with an IMAP server? Yes. If so, presumably the Archive folder is on the IMAP server. By default it's the same server if it supports it, yes. You can set the Archive folder per server under Account Settings, Copies Folders. I for example always set it to Local Folders for all accounts. YMMV. What happens if you have an IMAP server that does not support sub-folders? Then flat archiving is used automatically. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Goodbye Seamonkey
Daniel wrote: Several times, over the years, I have suggested that there *SHOULD* be a clickable link as part of the Mail Newsgroup splash screen, but, sadly, I'm still waiting. The alteration would have to happen in chrome://messenger/content/start.xhtml but I don't know how to do it. If you ask how to do it for yourself only: 1. Go to your SeaMonkey install directory 2. Open chrome/messenger.jar with a ZIP program (e.g. 7-Zip) 3. Edit content/messenger/start.xhtml ( 4. Open chrome/en-US.jar with a ZIP program 5. Edit en-US/messenger/start.dtd ) Your changes will be overwritten whenever you update SM. If you ask how to do it for everyone: 1. File a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=SeaMonkey 2. Describe exactly what you propose 3. Find someone to implement it 4. Get the module owner (Karsten) to accept it HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email failure
n...@home wrote: I have SM 2.0.2 on two computers, one with windowsxp and one with vista. Until today, I was receiving email on the same account with whichever pc I was using. Today, however, on the vista pc, when I went to read my email, there were no new mails, and when I demanded that it download mails, it connected to the POP server, said it was downloading 1 of 19 items, then after about a minute said the connection had timed out. I went to my isps web site, and was able to read emails there. I didn't read all of them. When I went back to the seamonkey reader, I got the same failure, although this time the message about dowloading 1 of 19 reflected that I had deleted some of the emails when I visited the web site. So apparently I am connecting enough to know how many emails there are, but something is preventing me from receiving the actual emails. I went to my windowsxp box and it is still working flawlessly, downloading the messages as both boxes used to. I thought perhaps a firewall setting was the problem, but I have the same FSAV program on both computers, and I don't see any dissimilar settings, and I had not done anything with the FSAV before the probem happened. I went to my ISP and the first cantalyst said using the same account name from two computers could cause the server to crash. I thought it was unlikely that it would crash for one computer and still work for the other, and certainly they would have noticed that one of their servers was crashing, but what do I know? The second analyst made more sense, but said they didn't support seamonkey, and suggested it was a problem with my vista pc or my firewall. So what can I do to fix this thing? Incidentally, and obviously, I am not having problems with the newsgroups. What is the ISP involved? Is this a POP account or IMAP? I don't suppose you were trying to access the same account from two computers at the same time? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 stripping attachments?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 2/10/2010 10:58 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Noe he said he moved it. and the images were stripped. Actually, what the OP said was: That incoming message is GONE! Which is even worse. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)
Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: Most of the things that annoyed me about the new default theme had to do with it's cursor/click hot areas - there was/is a lot of area in the taskbar where I felt I should have been able to right click (cntrl+click) that were/are dead...so that was both non-intuitive and difficult - particularly with my MacBook Pro trackpad. The other thing was the lack of grippie function for the Sidebars - lots of chat here about the Apple standard not allowing them the way they were/are in the Modern theme...I think the best suggestion was to just make the whole bar function as a grippie, vice just a small patch around the center dot. These two issues alone drove me screaming to the Modern theme after about a week...been far happier using that one. Thunderbird doesn't have any grippies. What do you actually think is better from a mac point of view in Thunderbird? Note that I'm not arguing/challenging here - I'm just trying to understand what you think is better in thunderbird from a mac pov. It does if you use the Orbit Theme. and did with the SkyPilot Theme. Makes the email windows easier to adjust. I use the three Pane Mode I set to show the address/header infor for just 5 post then it easy to click on them one at the time and read post. You can also easily go to different sub directories in each mail box. They are a great help. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password required - a suggestion
First - thanks to all for a superb SeaMonkey. For those of us that cannot 'get around' the Password Required window which reads Please enter the master password for the software security device. Would it be possible to insert SeaMonkey as a header. Mac iphoto (and probably other Mac programs)'help' calls up my default browser (Seamonkey) which presents the Password Required window. It would help if this requirement referred to SeaMonkey. Using iMac and Snow Leopard. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email - Empty Trash deletes Trash icon
In article lymdnbnaszx3cuzwnz2dnuvz_tkdn...@mozilla.org, MCBastos mcbli...@terra.com.br wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 9/2/2010 05:41, Geoff Walker told the world: I'm running SM 2.0.2 and just in the last few days I have been unable to delete messages from the trash in the normal manner. Closing and re-opening SM then allows me to delete messages from the inbox to the trash, up to the next occasion that I empty the trash, at which point the trash icon itself is deleted and the deletion of messages from the inbox can no longer be made (presumably because there is no trash to dispatch them to). This behaviour persists even after re-booting the computer and even after re-installing SM. Further investigation reveals that the alternative method of emptying the trash by highlighting all messages in the trash and then clicking the Inbox's delete icon appears to work fine - it is only File - Empty Trash that leads to the deletion of the trash icon. Also it is only when there are messages in the trash that the icon disappears. File - Empty Trash has no impact if the trash is empty. Any diagnosis and/or suggestions, please? Try the following: 1. Close Seamonkey. All windows of it. 2. Go to your profile folder, then look for files with the extension msf inside the mail subfolders. 3. Delete the trash.msf file. There might be more than one, if you have more than one Trash folder. Delete all of them. 4. Delete the extension-less Trash files too. 5. Open Seamonkey again: the trash files will be rebuilt, and hopefully will work normally from now on. Many thanks, MCBastos - that has fixed the problem. For clarity, I didn't touch the trash files in Local Folders, only those in the main mail sub-folder. And I didn't touch the trash.snm file - only those that you specifically mentioned. This newsgroup is a wonderful resource! Geoff ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OSX 1.1.18 - 2.0.2 upgrade crash
Hello, When SM 2.0 first came out I tried migrating from 1.1.8 but hit a problem. The same thing is still occurring with 2.0.2 and I'm looking for suggestions. When I first run 2.0.2 it gives me the option to import from 1.1.18, which I select, and the dialog appears listing the various items being imported. This takes about 4 minutes. I click on OK and get the following message about 10 seconds later, titled Crash Reporter: We're Sorry The application had problem and crashed. Unfortunately the crash reporter is unable to submit a report for this crash. Details: The application didn't leave an application data file. Not much help, I admit, but any ideas? The application closes and subsequent restarts just show the same message. This is on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8. -- Neil Hughes ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Archive feature in IMAP mail
Jens Hatlak wrote: Am 10.02.2010 15:54 schrieb David Wilkinson: I see there is a new Mail Archive feature in SM2. I don't find a description of it in the SM2 Help Even worse, there hasn't even been a bug report for that. My bad. Now there is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545480 The new Archive feature (inspired by Gmail) automatically moves a message to an archive folder when you hit A with a message open or select Message | Archive. In SeaMonkey it's Shift+A. And there's a context menu item as well. The archives folder layout sorts messages by year, with subfolders for each month. That's the default. You can change the behavior using the mail.server.serverX.archive_granularity pref. From the source: This attribute and constants control the granularity of sub-folders of the Archives folder - either messages go in the single archive folder, or a yearly archive folder, or in a monthly archive folder with a yearly parent folder. If the server doesn't support folders that both contain messages and have sub-folders, we will ignore this setting. Single Archive Folder = 0 Per-Year Archive Folders = 1 Per-Month Archive Folders = 2 As I wrote above the default is 1. Note that AFAIK sub folders are not created automatically currently. You need to do that manually once for each year/month. Or maybe I'm wrong and only the subscribing doesn't work. Or not always. Anyway, once the correct folder hierarchy is visible in MailNews the Archive functionality works as expected. Does this work with an IMAP server? Yes. If so, presumably the Archive folder is on the IMAP server. By default it's the same server if it supports it, yes. You can set the Archive folder per server under Account Settings, Copies Folders. I for example always set it to Local Folders for all accounts. YMMV. What happens if you have an IMAP server that does not support sub-folders? Then flat archiving is used automatically. Jens: Thanks for the great explanations! -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2 profile transfer mechanism
Hello, Over the years I´ve got used to transfer my profile from one computer to another with SM 1.1.x using the following method: 1- Creating a folder structure in the new computer like this: D:\SMprofiles\MyProfile 2- Copying all files and folders under the MyProfile folder from the old computer to the MyProfile folder at the new computer. 3- Starting the Profile Manager in the new computer, starting a new profile creation and selecting the same profile name and folder location. From this point on, SM 1.1.x assumes all files already there as belonging to the new profile and works normally. But, this method does not seem to work for SM 2.x, because the previous profile data is not recognized. Should this method work for SM 2.x or I am doing anything wrong ? Thanks to all, Rubens ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Goodbye Seamonkey--No Way
Rod Lovett wrote: Hi, with due respect, but no way!!! seamonkey 2.0.x is great I am now using Seamonkey 2.0.4pre 64 bit in 64 bit Sidux moros, which is debian unstable with considerable help, and what is really clever, SM is now a rolling release browser that updates itself. The download manager is heaps better too. It goes really well and with updates and in my humble opinion, you can't get better than that. It gets around any, in my opinion, silly trademark tiffs in Open Source too thank heavens. Cheers Rod It might be great BUT some of us are waiting for the add on creators to catch up. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Very stable and well-rounded program
I've only recently returned to SeaMonkey after one day dabbling with it two years ago and I'm pleasantly surprised. It's replaced Firefox and Thunderbird in my 1 gig eMac as a snappy memory saver. Any cosmetic issues I might have pales to my concern that Tiger support continues in the spirit that the SeaMonkey project had to tough thru many cancellation perils since the Netscape days. Good work SeaMonkey engineers! JimWG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OSX 1.1.18 - 2.0.2 upgrade crash
Neil Hughes wrote: Hello, When SM 2.0 first came out I tried migrating from 1.1.8 but hit a problem. The same thing is still occurring with 2.0.2 and I'm looking for suggestions. When I first run 2.0.2 it gives me the option to import from 1.1.18, which I select, and the dialog appears listing the various items being imported. This takes about 4 minutes. I click on OK and get the following message about 10 seconds later, titled Crash Reporter: We're Sorry The application had problem and crashed. Unfortunately the crash reporter is unable to submit a report for this crash. Details: The application didn't leave an application data file. Not much help, I admit, but any ideas? The application closes and subsequent restarts just show the same message. This is on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8. Hm. I had no problems at all in upgrading on my iMac and MacBook Pro, both running Snow Leopard. In my cases, the migration did take a long time, could you perhaps be clicking OK before the migration is finished? When you reopen SeaMonkey, does the migration start again? If so, can you cancel out of it and create a clean profile? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 profile transfer mechanism
Rubens wrote: Hello, Over the years I´ve got used to transfer my profile from one computer to another with SM 1.1.x using the following method: 1- Creating a folder structure in the new computer like this: D:\SMprofiles\MyProfile 2- Copying all files and folders under the MyProfile folder from the old computer to the MyProfile folder at the new computer. 3- Starting the Profile Manager in the new computer, starting a new profile creation and selecting the same profile name and folder location. From this point on, SM 1.1.x assumes all files already there as belonging to the new profile and works normally. But, this method does not seem to work for SM 2.x, because the previous profile data is not recognized. Should this method work for SM 2.x or I am doing anything wrong ? Thanks to all, Rubens Just a guess here, but SM 2.0.x does migrate profile data to a new profile location. Are you sure that you are copying the SM2 profile, or might you be trying to use the old SM 1.1.x profile data? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Goodbye Seamonkey--No Way
Mike C wrote: Rod Lovett wrote: Hi, with due respect, but no way!!! seamonkey 2.0.x is great I am now using Seamonkey 2.0.4pre 64 bit in 64 bit Sidux moros, which is debian unstable with considerable help, and what is really clever, SM is now a rolling release browser that updates itself. The download manager is heaps better too. It goes really well and with updates and in my humble opinion, you can't get better than that. It gets around any, in my opinion, silly trademark tiffs in Open Source too thank heavens. Cheers Rod It might be great BUT some of us are waiting for the add on creators to catch up. What addons are you waiting for? Unless you are waiting for something like Multizilla, which will probably never ladn for SM 2, I have found every addon I've used in a form that works fine with 2.0.x. Let us know wat addons you are haing problems with, perhaps we can help. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Goodbye Seamonkey
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-09 9:29 PM, Rufus wrote: My argument is that the collective opinions of any userbase in any discussion forum is the best dataset for user experience, and that to ignore it - in any venue - is folly in the long run. No matter what your hired gun may say. Then we're going in circles. I've already explained that user experience work includes design. It's not just telling developers what users think (let alone ignoring users). ...the real user experience includes the experience of the users...not much else. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Very stable and well-rounded program
James Greenidge wrote: [...]Any cosmetic issues I might have pales to my concern that Tiger support continues[...] For those who are saying Huh?: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/08/151240threshold=5 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/08/151240threshold=5#31060688 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/08/151240threshold=5#31062476 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/08/151240threshold=5#31062652 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
