Re: SM 1.16 vs. Mysoju.com videos

[NoOp]

On 07/24/2010 04:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> BTW: You just made my MIL's live-in nurse _very happy_ - she couldn't
>> get her korean soaps via cable anymore, so this will work just fine.
>> Thanks! :-)
> 
> 괜찮아요, 천만에요...

감사합니다

> 
> The main page is at , and the list of soaps is at 
> . Titles are in English, though, 
> which sometimes presents an obstacle to recognition -- for example, 
> "Likable or Not" is actually more like "Hate You, Fine" in Korean, and 
> the current one on my local TV station, "Happiness in the Wind" in our 
> program guide, is actually more like "Wind Blow Good Day" in Korean and 
> is listed here as "A Good Day for the Wind to Blow."
> 

It's OK... the nurse is Filippino so she can't read the characters
anyway. She just enjoys the soaps/drama series. :-)
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Re: SM 1.16 vs. Mysoju.com videos

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:45:26 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> The main page is at , and the list of soaps is at 
> . Titles are in English, though, 
> which sometimes presents an obstacle to recognition -- for example, 
> "Likable or Not" is actually more like "Hate You, Fine" in Korean, and 
> the current one on my local TV station, "Happiness in the Wind" in our 
> program guide, is actually more like "Wind Blow Good Day" in Korean and 
> is listed here as "A Good Day for the Wind to Blow."

Hah. Japanese is just as bad. "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi" (千と千尋
の神隠し) is listed as just "Spirited Away".

Phil

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Re: Now getting email--want another account

[NoOp]

On 07/24/2010 06:34 PM, ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> I deleted all the maj10020 I set up and now the ldj1002 is working.
> 
...

Send me an email directly (drop the .invalid in the email address) &
I'll be happy to help you off group. That way we can also swap
screenshots if need be. Use the same subject so I can identify if the
msg gets caught in the spam filters.

Gary

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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[NoOp]

On 07/24/2010 06:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
...
> 
> Yes, currently news account filters work only on newly downloaded 
> headers.  See my other reply - I've reset the groups to make them 
> re-download the headers, but then it appeared impossibly slow.
> 

This server (news.mozilla.org) is impossibly slow anyway when
downloading headers. I can fetch over 500 headers on gmane.org or some
other nntp in the time it takes to fetch 50 headers on this server.

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Re: how do I kill the page restore function

[Jim]

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 20 juillet 2010, Jim a écrit :


I was on www.snotr.com, and went to an advertising page they had
there. When I closed that page, there was another page advertising
getting your fortune told underneath the first page. It had malicious
code in it.

I had to ctrl-alt-del out of Seamonkey to make sure it didn't bring up
any more windows message boxes, but when I opened it up again, it
tried to go to the same page (as if SM Monkey had crashed).

I rebooted, and figured that would help SM get that out of its head,
but when I started SM, the address in the URL box was
"about:restorepage", or something like that. I hit the "home" button
before it could start loading that page again.

Any ideas how to get around this SM behavior?


Maybe set browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash to false?

But you'd better not kill SM unless you really need to. Did you really
have to kill it? Did you try File > Quit (which is not the same as
closing the window with the X upper-right button)?


Thanks Lucas--

No, I didn't try close.  Maybe that will work.
BTW, I was listening to the Kim Komando Show in the car today, and 
someone asked the same question.  She said "Alt + F4" would do it.

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Re: Now getting email--want another account

[ldj1002]

I deleted all the maj10020 I set up and now the ldj1002 is working.

ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


OH MY! now I can't get into my ldj1...@sbcglobal email. Says password
invalid.
I guess I really messed up

ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I thought I have done exactly but not working. So I must not be doing
exact. Ill try to show what I did. First I went to another profile, my
wifes.

Server setting
pop.att.yahoo.com
995
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
Use secure authentication-unchecked

Outgoing I put

ldj1002a
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
NO
ssl/tls


I send e mail and it says failed enter password for
maj10...@sbcglobal.net. I then put the password that I used to open the
Yahoo web mail account which is maj10...@yahoo.com

What have I done wrong?

L.D.




NoOp wrote:

On 07/23/2010 08:24 PM, NoOp wrote:


After that is complete, scroll down to Outgoing server and click the
'Add' button on the right. Now set that up exactly like your other SMTP
server account with the exception of using the new email address. Name
it (Description) with an identifier so you'll know it is different than
your primary. Example:

ldjemail2
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
ldjema...@sbcglobal.net
No
SSL/TLS


Sorry forgot to add (and you will have already have this checked in your
default): check 'Use name and password' and then enter the exact email
address of ldjema...@sbcglobal.net. Do *not* check 'Use secure
authentication'.







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Re: Now getting email--want another account

[ldj1002]

OH MY! now I can't get into my ldj1...@sbcglobal email. Says password 
invalid.

I guess I really messed up

ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I thought I have done exactly but not working. So I must not be doing
exact. Ill try to show what I did. First I went to another profile, my
wifes.

Server setting
pop.att.yahoo.com
995
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
Use secure authentication-unchecked

Outgoing I put

ldj1002a
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
NO
ssl/tls


I send e mail and it says failed enter password for
maj10...@sbcglobal.net. I then put the password that I used to open the
Yahoo web mail account which is maj10...@yahoo.com

What have I done wrong?

L.D.




NoOp wrote:

On 07/23/2010 08:24 PM, NoOp wrote:


After that is complete, scroll down to Outgoing server and click the
'Add' button on the right. Now set that up exactly like your other SMTP
server account with the exception of using the new email address. Name
it (Description) with an identifier so you'll know it is different than
your primary. Example:

ldjemail2
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
ldjema...@sbcglobal.net
No
SSL/TLS


Sorry forgot to add (and you will have already have this checked in your
default): check 'Use name and password' and then enter the exact email
address of ldjema...@sbcglobal.net. Do *not* check 'Use secure
authentication'.





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Re: Now getting email--want another account

[ldj1002]

I thought I have done exactly but not working. So I must not be doing 
exact. Ill try to show what I did. First I went to another profile, my 
wifes.


Server setting
pop.att.yahoo.com
995
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
Use secure authentication-unchecked

Outgoing I put

ldj1002a
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
maj10...@sbcglobal.net
NO
ssl/tls


I send e mail and it says failed enter password for 
maj10...@sbcglobal.net. I then put the password that I used to open the 
Yahoo web mail account which is maj10...@yahoo.com


What have I done wrong?

L.D.




NoOp wrote:

On 07/23/2010 08:24 PM, NoOp wrote:


After that is complete, scroll down to Outgoing server and click the
'Add' button on the right. Now set that up exactly like your other SMTP
server account with the exception of using the new email address. Name
it (Description) with an identifier so you'll know it is different than
your primary. Example:

ldjemail2
smtp.att.yahoo.com
465
ldjema...@sbcglobal.net
No
SSL/TLS


Sorry forgot to add (and you will have already have this checked in your
default): check 'Use name and password' and then enter the exact email
address of ldjema...@sbcglobal.net. Do *not* check 'Use secure
authentication'.



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Re: SM 1.16 vs. Mysoju.com videos

[Paul B. Gallagher]

NoOp wrote:


On 07/22/2010 11:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Some of my favorite Korean soaps ("dramas") are available online at 
mysoju.com. The site doesn't host anything, they just embed videos 
hosted elsewhere.


Normally, everything works fine, but I'm wondering why this scenario is 
giving me trouble: If for some reason I clear my cache, the next time I 
visit the site I can't watch a video. Here's a sample URL:





Didn't play here either using that link. However if I click the bottom,
this plays:

as does:


so maybe just a problem with the episode-158?


Nope. Once you've gotten ep 159 to play, you can go back to 158.2 and 
you'll find it works fine.



Opps... just reloaded your original url & it's playing now.


Yep. It's as if SM had to have some bit of code (a javascript?) 
available before it would work. That's my question.



BTW: You just made my MIL's live-in nurse _very happy_ - she couldn't
get her korean soaps via cable anymore, so this will work just fine.
Thanks! :-)


괜찮아요, 천만에요...

The main page is at , and the list of soaps is at 
. Titles are in English, though, 
which sometimes presents an obstacle to recognition -- for example, 
"Likable or Not" is actually more like "Hate You, Fine" in Korean, and 
the current one on my local TV station, "Happiness in the Wind" in our 
program guide, is actually more like "Wind Blow Good Day" in Korean and 
is listed here as "A Good Day for the Wind to Blow."


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.5 to v2.0.6 update didn't prompt me!

[Robert Kaiser]

Ant schrieb:

I don't mind to be notified about updates but I don't want to be
forced. Let me decide to get them or not.


As Jens already pointed out, in 2.1 there will be graphical preferences 
UI for that (there is a hidden one in 2.0, look it up in his post).


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Re: SM 1.16 vs. Mysoju.com videos

[NoOp]

On 07/22/2010 11:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Some of my favorite Korean soaps ("dramas") are available online at 
> mysoju.com. The site doesn't host anything, they just embed videos 
> hosted elsewhere.
> 
> Normally, everything works fine, but I'm wondering why this scenario is 
> giving me trouble: If for some reason I clear my cache, the next time I 
> visit the site I can't watch a video. Here's a sample URL:
> 
> 

Didn't play here either using that link. However if I click the bottom,
this plays:
http://www.mysoju.com/fullscreen/likable-or-not/episode-159/part-1/
as does:
http://www.mysoju.com/fullscreen/likable-or-not/episode-159/part-2/

so maybe just a problem with the episode-158?

Opps... just reloaded your original url & it's playing now.

BTW: You just made my MIL's live-in nurse _very happy_ - she couldn't
get her korean soaps via cable anymore, so this will work just fine.
Thanks! :-)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100721 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.6
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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

> /Beauregard T. Shagnasty/:
>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>> See my other reply - I've reset the groups to make them re-download
>>> the headers, but then it appeared impossibly slow.
>> 
>> And that's because your filter reads parts that are only downloaded
>> with full bodies, not just headers. So your computer is getting all
>> those thousands of lines of content, instead of just the few in the
>> actual "header." I thought your filter, as described, was way
>> overkill. All you need is the Message-ID. ;-)
> 
> So, normally when fetching the new message headers not all headers
> get downloaded, right?  Do you know which headers get downloaded
> normally?

I'm not entirely sure, but they include Message-ID, Subject, number of
lines, From, the date/time, and probably not much more. 

> I didn't want to use just the 'Message-ID' in my filter as
> it would filter out all legitimate posts coming from Google Groups,
> also. 

Someone recently wrote that filtering googlegroups was like throwing the
baby out with the bathwater, but an eloquent reply was "the bathwater is
so dirty, the only way you can find the baby is to dump the bathwater on
the lawn and hope you can actually spot the baby."  Implying of course
that there are s many more spam posts than legitimate ones from
googlegroups that it's worth the effort to filter first. Set GG to "mark
as read" instead of "delete".

> Note I've described one more problem  - the slow down appears even
> when the filter is disabled.

Suggest you remove the filter(s) altogether and hope that solves the
problem.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.5 to v2.0.6 update didn't prompt me!

[Ant]

On 7/23/2010 8:04 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


Perhaps because I don't want YOU to change MY system?


Perhaps I just want YOU to be safe on the Internet?


well, I certainly appreciate your concern for my well being. Although,
I'm happy (and prefer) to take personal responsibility for my own security.


Anyhow, there's a hidden pref somewhere to make us prompt and destroy
your security, but go find it yourself, I won't waste my time on looking
it up.


I didn't say I wouldn't update. I'm simply objecting to the practice of
sw modifying itself without warning.


Ditto. I don't mind to be notified about updates but I don't want to be 
forced. Let me decide to get them or not.

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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:41:46 -0500, /Beauregard T. Shagnasty/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

See my other reply - I've reset the groups to make them re-download 
the headers, but then it appeared impossibly slow.


And that's because your filter reads parts that are only downloaded 
with full bodies, not just headers. So your computer is getting all 
those thousands of lines of content, instead of just the few in the 
actual "header." I thought your filter, as described, was way 
overkill. All you need is the Message-ID. ;-)


So, normally when fetching the new message headers not all headers get 
downloaded, right?  Do you know which headers get downloaded normally?  
I didn't want to use just the 'Message-ID' in my filter as it would 
filter out all legitimate posts coming from Google Groups, also.


Note I've described one more problem  - the slow down appears even when 
the filter is disabled.


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Rufus]

Georg Maaß wrote:

Hi,

there is so much spam in the mozilla news groups (i.e. XPCOM, XUL and DOM).

How can I tell SeaMonkey to filter this spam away (at least mark it as 
read).


Filters seem not to work for news groups (i.e. I'm missing the run now 
button known from the eMail filters).


Mark as spam also does not work for news groups.


I use the keyword Filter built into Seamonkey with a "Delete Message" 
action.  I have the FLiter set against the server - not a specific group.


I hardly see any spam at all.  On the rare occasions when I do, I add a 
new Keyword to the list.


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[JeffM]

Gerald Ross wrote:
>I have used NewsProxy for years and it works.
>
aka nFilter.
Other apps in this class: Hamster and Leafnode.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=nFilter+OR+NewsProxy+Hamster+Leafnode+-jeffm_+-News.Proxy+-inurl:www&num=100

These local proxy servers provide added granularity
when compared to the other solution being proposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/c6c66638a7a78f10/de1b4abeae5f920e?q=Agent-will-dispose-of-*-flagged-messages+whitelist+adds-text-to-the-Subject-line-*-downloads-*-headers+leaves-*-unmarked-messages-on-*-server+DROP+googlegroups+FLAG+uar+nfilter+all+bye+easy
http://tinyurl.com/Using-nFilter-Effectively

Note:  I post to this group via Google Groups.
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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

> Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:28:58 +0200, /Georg Maaß/:
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Marking individual posts never works (for email or news) as the
>>> spammers use a different user ID (email address) for each message.
>>> You just end up with a huge list of never-to-be-used-again filters.
>> 
>> I created a message filter via menu Tools -> "Message Filters..."
>> for mozilla.dev.tech.dom 
>> 
>> The filter is specified as: 
>> 
>> Apply filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
>> Match any of the following
>> Message_ID contains googlegroups.com
>> Perform these actions: Mark As Read
>>
>> but no Run manually button is provided for the filter. So it seems to
>> be useless. If this GUI is not designed to create filters for news
>> groups the dropdown menu Filter for should provide mailboxes only.
>> Currently it provides mailboxes as well as news servers, but filters
>> on news serves seem not to work.
> 
> Yes, currently news account filters work only on newly downloaded 
> headers.

That would be correct, and applies to (probably) all newsreaders. If
you've already gotten the headers before setting up the filter, you
would have to clear and re-download.

> See my other reply - I've reset the groups to make them 
> re-download the headers, but then it appeared impossibly slow.

And that's because your filter reads parts that are only downloaded with
full bodies, not just headers. So your computer is getting all those
thousands of lines of content, instead of just the few in the actual
"header."  I thought your filter, as described, was way overkill. All
you need is the Message-ID.   ;-)

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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Gerald Ross]

Georg Maaß wrote:

Hi,

there is so much spam in the mozilla news groups (i.e. XPCOM, XUL and DOM).

How can I tell SeaMonkey to filter this spam away (at least mark it as
read).

Filters seem not to work for news groups (i.e. I'm missing the run now
button known from the eMail filters).

Mark as spam also does not work for news groups.


I have used NewsProxy for years and it works. It is very flexible and 
a little hard to set up, but worth the trouble on some newsgroups.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.5 to v2.0.6 update didn't prompt me!

[Robert Kaiser]

Bill Davidsen schrieb:

It's called hubris, the belief that one has God-like powers. Robert
believes that his team is so smart that no one could possibly hack the
system used for auto update and then install a compromised version
instead of the real thing.


Good to know that you can read my mind and my subconsciousness. Next 
time I'm unsure of what my mind is up to or I possibly want someone 
else's mind read, I'll contact you.


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:28:58 +0200, /Georg Maaß/:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Marking individual posts never works (for email or news) as the spammers
use a different user ID (email address) for each message. You just end
up with a huge list of never-to-be-used-again filters.


I created a message filter via menu Tools -> "Message Filters..." for
mozilla.dev.tech.dom

The filter is specified as:

Apply filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following
Message_ID contains googlegroups.com
Perform these actions: Mark As Read

but no Run manually button is provided for the filter. So it seems to be
useless. If this GUI is not designed to create filters for news groups
the dropdown menu Filter for should provide mailboxes only. Currently it
provides mailboxes as well as news servers, but filters on news serves
seem not to work.


Yes, currently news account filters work only on newly downloaded 
headers.  See my other reply - I've reset the groups to make them 
re-download the headers, but then it appeared impossibly slow.


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Georg Maaß]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Marking individual posts never works (for email or news) as the spammers
use a different user ID (email address) for each message. You just end
up with a huge list of never-to-be-used-again filters.



I created a message filter via menu Tools -> "Message Filters..." for 
mozilla.dev.tech.dom


The filter is specified as:

Apply filter when: Checking Mail or Manually Run
Match any of the following
Message_ID contains googlegroups.com
Perform these actions: Mark As Read

but no Run manually button is provided for the filter. So it seems to be 
useless. If this GUI is not designed to create filters for news groups 
the dropdown menu Filter for should provide mailboxes only. Currently it 
provides mailboxes as well as news servers, but filters on news serves 
seem not to work.

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Re: SM 1.16 vs. Mysoju.com videos

[Bill Davidsen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Some of my favorite Korean soaps ("dramas") are available online at 
mysoju.com. The site doesn't host anything, they just embed videos 
hosted elsewhere.


Normally, everything works fine, but I'm wondering why this scenario is 
giving me trouble: If for some reason I clear my cache, the next time I 
visit the site I can't watch a video. Here's a sample URL:




The page appears OK, but I can't get the video to start (no controls, 
including "play"). So I look at the source code and discover that the 
video is actually hosted here:




So I go there, where the controls are visible and the video plays fine 
on the first try.


Once I've been to tudou.com, all the tudou videos at mysoju.com play 
fine on the first try. And they all keep on playing until the next time 
I clear my cache.


Any ideas?

I normally don't suggest solving problems with an upgrade to the latest version, 
but in this case I will, at least for testing. If you don't let 2.x migrate your 
profile you will have the option of going back. I assume that people have a good 
reason for running the older versions, so don't expect a sermon from me.


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Re: Best Form Manager Now?

[Bill Davidsen]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:10 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:



SeaMonkey 2.1 will have a Form data editor as part of the Data Manager.


Will it hopefully look like what we have now with the autofill, or are we in for 
dose of "did what the developer needed" functionality?


It means that you are in for a dose of "nobody else stepped up to the
plate so KaiRo did the best he could seeing as he is primarily a
translator and website designer and not a developer except that he's
learnt to do a few things in the last few years mostly by osmosis".

/me looks at Bill. Why don't you pick up a copy of Javascript for
Dummies at the local Borders?

Unless it has a chapter on "being happy having no life at all" there's no way 
it's going to do any good. And having never found anything like the Linux kernel 
mailing to submit patches painlessly, I would be maintaining them just for me 
forever. There's a perfectly good autofill extension, as long as that continues 
to work I will continue to ignore the default forms stuff.


And Sams "Javascript in 24 hours" is the book I would recommend if someone asked 
me. I suppose my 4th edition is out of date by now, but it serves.


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Another form fill issue

[Bill Davidsen]

I noted this article (http://tinyurl.com/25z9w4c) about getting information out 
of Safari. It seems I should ask, is this a problem with Seamonkey? I was unable 
to trigger this behavior with autofill, but I wonder if the built-in forms are 
secure.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.5 to v2.0.6 update didn't prompt me!

[Bill Davidsen]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Daniel schrieb:

Ant wrote:

On 7/21/2010 8:32 PM PT, Daniel typed:


Antman, if you have a look at Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software
installation, you may may be able to set things up the way you want!!
May!!


Daniel, I don't see an option to automatically/silent install or prompt
before installing.


When I brought up a similar line of discussion a while back, I think the
line put out was "These are security updates, they are good for you, you
don't need to know about it, it will just happen!".

I can, sort of, see the point, but if there are still people using SM
1.x.x because they don't like some of the additional/subtractions, there
might also be those that want to stick with 2.0.4 and not upgrade, but
they don't get that option.


Why? 2.0.x security updates don't introduce any functional changes, only
security and stability updates as well as fixes to annoying actual bugs.
I see no reason why anyone would want to stay on more broken releases
with the same functionality.


Perhaps because I don't want YOU to change MY system?  Especially 
without asking me.  This is the kind of thing for which Microsoft and 
other Big Brother type entities have been criticized.  That an Open 
Source initiative should do it is, well, strange, to say the least.


And, I will say, MS has given me the choice.  Windows can be set to 
alert me to updates and ask me if I want to apply them.  And I have the 
choice.


It is MY computer.  It is MY software.  How much more simply can this be 
expressed?


Do not screw with my system.  Simply ask me.  How hard is that?

It's called hubris, the belief that one has God-like powers. Robert believes 
that his team is so smart that no one could possibly hack the system used for 
auto update and then install a compromised version instead of the real thing.


The only way to be safe is to control what you put on your own computer, and not 
let anyone, the government, the OS vendor, or the app vendor. There are two 
rules for security:

 1 - never let someone untrusted control your computer in any way
 2 - never trust anyone


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:10:50 +0200, /Georg Maaß/:


there is so much spam in the mozilla news groups (i.e. XPCOM, XUL and DOM).

How can I tell SeaMonkey to filter this spam away (at least mark it as
read).

Filters seem not to work for news groups (i.e. I'm missing the run now
button known from the eMail filters).

Mark as spam also does not work for news groups.


One thing I've tried, defined a filter like:

name="Google Groups Spam 1"
enabled="yes"
type="20"
action="Delete"
condition="AND (\"organization\",contains,http://groups.google.com) 
AND (\"complaints-to\",contains,groups-ab...@google.com) AND 
(\"injection-info\",contains,.googlegroups.com;) AND 
(\"x-http-useragent\",contains,Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; 
Windows NT 6.0;) AND (\"x-http-useragent\",contains,Trident/4.0; 
GTB6.5; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR) 
AND (\"x-http-useragent\",contains,\"3.0.04506; .NET CLR 
3.5.21022),gzip(gfe)\")"


This supposedly filters a recent class of spam, but does not 
unconditionally filter everything coming from Google Groups.


Closed SeaMonkey and deleted all *.msf files for news.mozilla.org. 
Edited "news.mozilla.org.rc" making all groups like:


mozilla.announce: 1

After headers get downloaded again, no of the given spam would land 
in.  However I've identified this way downloading of new messages 
becomes impossibly slow.  I've noticed even when disabling the 
filter (it is the only one for the account) the same slowdown 
happens.  Only when removing it all together no slowdown appears.


So I've given up, downloaded recent headers without a filter and 
then added the filter so it gets effect for new headers, only.


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Re: How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Georg Maaß wrote:

> there is so much spam in the mozilla news groups (i.e. XPCOM, XUL and
> DOM). How can I tell SeaMonkey to filter this spam away (at least
> mark it as read). 
> 
> Filters seem not to work for news groups (i.e. I'm missing the run
> now button known from the eMail filters). 

Nearly all the spam comes from Google Groups. Filter on the Message-ID
containing "googlegroups.com"
http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

> Mark as spam also does not work for news groups.

Marking individual posts never works (for email or news) as the spammers
use a different user ID (email address) for each message. You just end
up with a huge list of never-to-be-used-again filters.

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How to filter away spam in newsgroups?

[Georg Maaß]

Hi,

there is so much spam in the mozilla news groups (i.e. XPCOM, XUL and DOM).

How can I tell SeaMonkey to filter this spam away (at least mark it as 
read).


Filters seem not to work for news groups (i.e. I'm missing the run now 
button known from the eMail filters).


Mark as spam also does not work for news groups.
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Re: Opensuse 11.3

[A Williams]

A Williams wrote:

Does anyone else use Seamonkey under Opensuse 11.3?  I am using the
32-bit of 2.0.5 version with no Flash installed, and Seamonkey tends to
implode under pressure. According to the add-on manager I only have the
DOM inspector.

Using the mouse wheel too aggressively? Oops, no seamonkey.
Closing several tabs in a short space of time? Oops.
When I then restart it, tabs I closed 30 seconds before the crash

Hey - it just happened again while I was looking the other way. This
time it apologised when I restarted it and asked if I wanted to re-open
or discard the existing session.


(additional info)

The next abort nuked my mail settings.  2-day old backups can be useful!

I tried installing and running seamonkey-debuginfo using gdb.  gdb 
complains that the debuginfo is for a different level of seamonkey.  gdb 
is right.

seamonkey   is 2.0.5-1.4, so is seamonkey-dom-inspector.
seamonkey-debuginfo is 2.0.6-2.1

oops.

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Opensuse 11.3

[A Williams]

Does anyone else use Seamonkey under Opensuse 11.3?  I am using the 
32-bit of 2.0.5 version with no Flash installed, and Seamonkey tends to 
implode under pressure.  According to the add-on manager I only have the 
DOM inspector.


Using the mouse wheel too aggressively?  Oops, no seamonkey.
Closing several tabs in a short space of time?  Oops.
When I then restart it, tabs I closed 30 seconds before the crash

Hey - it just happened again while I was looking the other way.  This 
time it apologised when I restarted it and asked if I wanted to re-open 
or discard the existing session.

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