Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.11 Security Update
Le 15 décembre 2010, Bret Busby a écrit : No, I do not try dealing with .tar and .tar.zip or whatever files anymore, for installing software. I have previously stated that my experience of what has been involved, is horrenous - it is like something out of a kafkaesque nightmare. Archives are only containers. That experience you have depends on the contents: sources or binaries. The cited webpage explicitly mentions Lenny as having the required dependencies. It is as pleasant as repeatedly bashing your head against a brick wall, until the skull fractures, which, I understand, some people do, but, it is not for me. I'm not suggesting that you try and make it work if it doesn't out of the box. I'm suggesting that you try and see if it does. (And drop it if it doesn't.) BTW, I repeat: Debian stability is at the cost of old software versions. Love it or leave it. -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: downgrade [Was: Re: seamonkey printer question]
Le 14 décembre 2010, Jay Garcia a écrit : On 13.12.2010 16:54, Fred James wrote: Suppose I cannot get the printers to be seen by Seamonkey 2.0.10 on my Mandriva 2008.0 box ... how do I return to Seamonkey 1.1.10 without losing my bookmarks, history, mail, etc? Or is that possible? Uninstalling only removes the program files, your profile remains intact. Fred most probably imported his 1.1.10 profile to 2.0.10. If he kept the old one, it'll be usable, but will be in the state it was at the time he switched. Some stuff will have to be migrated back by hand: mailboxes, bookmarks... -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: downgrade [Was: Re: seamonkey printer question]
Jay Garcia wrote: On 13.12.2010 16:54, Fred James wrote: --- Original Message --- Suppose I cannot get the printers to be seen by Seamonkey 2.0.10 on my Mandriva 2008.0 box ... how do I return to Seamonkey 1.1.10 without losing my bookmarks, history, mail, etc? Or is that possible? By the way ... someone on another list suggested going to 2.0.11 might fix the printer issue ... how likely is that, do you think? Thanks Regards Fred James Fred James wrote: In Seamonkey (and Firefox, as it happens), in the file 'run-mozilla.sh' there is a variable $MOZILLA_POSTSCRIPT_PRINTER_LIST... can anyone help me to determine where that variable is set, or what the value might actually be, please? Reason for interest ... the latest version installed on my box (Mandriva 2008.0) does not seem to be able to find the printers. I am thinking that perhaps a sym-link might be a workaround? Thanks Regards Fred James Uninstalling only removes the program files, your profile remains intact. NO and yes, both profiles are intact ...but when downgrading from 2.x to 1.x your 2.x profile containing bookmarks, history, mail, etc? is not used anymore, you recover your old 1.x profile containing bookmarks, history, mail, etc? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0.10 Seamonkey - printers not seen
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 11 décembre 2010, Fred James a écrit : I have upgraded to Seamonkey 2.0.10 on my Mandriva 2008.0 desktop and now the printers are not available (Navigate: File-Print). They were available on the older version of Seamonkey, and they are working from the CLI as well as other applications such as OpenOffice. Thank you for any help you may be able to offer What Window manager do you use? It may be that SM requires the Gnome printing tool. Lucas, I'm using KDE as my Window Manager on Mandrive 2009.1 and have no problems with SM finding the printer (via CUPS, I think) Also worked om MD2007.1 previously. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey printer question
JeffM wrote: Fred James wrote: [...]PRINTER[...] Starting a new thread with each new post seems very stupid and selfish to me. Try keeping it all in one thread from now on. Jeff, did you notice that Fred was posting using lists.mozilla.org?? The default reply situation, as I recall, with the lists is that *THEY* post the reply as a new thread. It's not the fault of the poster. The regulars here discovered this annoyance some time ago. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/14/10 8:44 AM, Ant wrote: Hi! Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot sample/example: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and resubscribing did not fix the problem either. It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird. Thank you in advance. :) Is this also a Thunderbird problem? Does this happen with other NSPs? If so, a bug report should be submitted. David, is this what you're talking about??:- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
Ant wrote: Hi! Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot sample/example: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and resubscribing did not fix the problem either. It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird. Thank you in advance. :) Ant, is this what you're talking about??:- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
On 12/14/2010 1:53 PM PT, Jordon typed: Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot sample/example: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and resubscribing did not fix the problem either. It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird. I see it occasionally but I find that if I mark it as unread, exit and restart SM, the post will show up. I will have to try that. That's annoying though! -- An ant is a wise creature for itself, but it is a shrewd thing in an orchard or garden. --Francis Bacon /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
On 12/14/2010 10:20 AM PT, WLS typed: Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot sample/example: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and resubscribing did not fix the problem either. It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird. Thank you in advance. :) I'm actually seeing that behavior in Jay's response to Help forums for Firefox down in the mozilla,support.firefox newsgroup using SM 2.1b2pre. Ah, it's not GigaNews and v2.0.xx then. Have you been able to reproduce it easily? Mine is so rare, but it happens. -- Cheerios: Hula-hoops for ants. --unknown /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
On 12/15/2010 3:55 AM PT, Daniel typed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Thanks Daniel. I just voted for and CC'ed myself to it. :) -- One day he sprained an ankle rather than crush an ant. --Les Miserables /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank newsgroup post on GigaNews?
On 12/15/2010 3:55 AM PT, Daniel typed: Has anyone seen this blank post behavior happen on the newsgroups in SeaMonkey v2 in Windows XP Pro. SP3? Here is a screen shot sample/example: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6964/blanknewsgroupposts.gif ... Saving this post as a text file resulted 0 bytes. Unsubscribing and resubscribing did not fix the problem either. It seems to happen RARELY with GigaNews' posts. I know the posts are fine because I can see them in Tin through Linux with the same NSP account and Google Groups. It seems like SM2 is doing something weird. Ant, is this what you're talking about??:- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Thanks Daniel. I just voted for and CC'ed myself to it. :) -- Everyone knows an ant can't move a rubber tree plant. --Motto of FTL Foundation (in Isaac Asimov book) /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
AAAAAARGGG Again-Seamonkey 2 Deleted/removed itself??
Ok, this is too much. Seamonkey 2 seems to have Deleted/removed itself?? In a previous post (12/6/10), I had just upgraded to Seamonkey version 2 and lost all but one of my profiles (S.Beaulieu was kind enough to post info on how to recover my other profiles. Last night, 12/14/10, I clicked on the Seamonkey desktop icon and nothing happened: I got a message saying that seamonkey.exe is not a valid application??? Thinking it was a 'congested computer problem',I rebooted -now the Seamonkey Icon was blank- and got the same result when I clicked on it. I followed the desktop shortcut found the seamonkey.exe file was 0 bytes! (see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bjweiss/SMfolder.jpg ) What's going on. How could Seamonkey get uninstalled or corrupted? Did it try and automatically upgrade itself? Can I recover from this or do I need to try a new install? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. ...Brian ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AAAAAARGGG Again-Seamonkey 2 Deleted/removed itself??
On 15.12.2010 17:42, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Ok, this is too much. Seamonkey 2 seems to have Deleted/removed itself?? In a previous post (12/6/10), I had just upgraded to Seamonkey version 2 and lost all but one of my profiles (S.Beaulieu was kind enough to post info on how to recover my other profiles. Last night, 12/14/10, I clicked on the Seamonkey desktop icon and nothing happened: I got a message saying that seamonkey.exe is not a valid application??? Thinking it was a 'congested computer problem',I rebooted -now the Seamonkey Icon was blank- and got the same result when I clicked on it. I followed the desktop shortcut found the seamonkey.exe file was 0 bytes! (see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bjweiss/SMfolder.jpg ) What's going on. How could Seamonkey get uninstalled or corrupted? Did it try and automatically upgrade itself? Can I recover from this or do I need to try a new install? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. ...Brian Interesting, are you running an AV application that may think it was a virus and removed the .exe file or rendered it useless? -- Jay Garcia - Netscape / Flock Champion Netscape - Firefox - Flock - Thunderbird Support UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AAAAAARGGG Again-Seamonkey 2 Deleted/removed itself??
Jay Garcia wrote: On 15.12.2010 17:42, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Ok, this is too much. Seamonkey 2 seems to have Deleted/removed itself?? In a previous post (12/6/10), I had just upgraded to Seamonkey version 2 and lost all but one of my profiles (S.Beaulieu was kind enough to post info on how to recover my other profiles. Last night, 12/14/10, I clicked on the Seamonkey desktop icon and nothing happened: I got a message saying that seamonkey.exe is not a valid application??? Thinking it was a 'congested computer problem',I rebooted -now the Seamonkey Icon was blank- and got the same result when I clicked on it. I followed the desktop shortcut found the seamonkey.exe file was 0 bytes! (see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bjweiss/SMfolder.jpg ) What's going on. How could Seamonkey get uninstalled or corrupted? Did it try and automatically upgrade itself? Can I recover from this or do I need to try a new install? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. ...Brian Interesting, are you running an AV application that may think it was a virus and removed the .exe file or rendered it useless? I have Symantec AV which does a small scan on reboot and maybe monitors email. (I'm not at my home computer right now so I'm not sure of the edition or settings). I also have Malwarebytes SUPERAntiSpyware (both are free versions, that have to be initiated manually). ...Brian ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AAAAAARGGG Again-Seamonkey 2 Deleted/removed itself??
On 15.12.2010 18:27, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 15.12.2010 17:42, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Ok, this is too much. Seamonkey 2 seems to have Deleted/removed itself?? In a previous post (12/6/10), I had just upgraded to Seamonkey version 2 and lost all but one of my profiles (S.Beaulieu was kind enough to post info on how to recover my other profiles. Last night, 12/14/10, I clicked on the Seamonkey desktop icon and nothing happened: I got a message saying that seamonkey.exe is not a valid application??? Thinking it was a 'congested computer problem',I rebooted -now the Seamonkey Icon was blank- and got the same result when I clicked on it. I followed the desktop shortcut found the seamonkey.exe file was 0 bytes! (see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bjweiss/SMfolder.jpg ) What's going on. How could Seamonkey get uninstalled or corrupted? Did it try and automatically upgrade itself? Can I recover from this or do I need to try a new install? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. ...Brian Interesting, are you running an AV application that may think it was a virus and removed the .exe file or rendered it useless? I have Symantec AV which does a small scan on reboot and maybe monitors email. (I'm not at my home computer right now so I'm not sure of the edition or settings). I also have Malwarebytes SUPERAntiSpyware (both are free versions, that have to be initiated manually). ...Brian I have the Pro version of SAS and I removed the trial of MWB but I've never had anything like this happen at any time. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape / Flock Champion Netscape - Firefox - Flock - Thunderbird Support UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?
Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote : Jordon wrote: Jane_Galt wrote: Is Seamonkey considered defunct now? I cant even get it to work anymore with my subscription of Webshots. Webshots doesn't like people that believe Glenn Beck tells the truth. anything at Fox news is suspect. Elect progressive candidates for every office - for jobs, security, democracy, and peace, vote Communist! - Progress and Democracy for Rhode Island., 1938 I don´t want to punish anybody but there are an extraordinary amount of people whom I want to kill. I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly appointed board and say every five or every seven years, just put them there and say Sir or Madam, will you be kind enough to justify your existence?´ If you´re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more then clearly we cannot use this big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive because your life does not benefit us and it can´t be of very much use to yourself. - George Bernard Shaw, 20th Century Progressive icon Oh, at the end of that video by Shaw, he gave the nazi salute. Seems he was a big fan of Hitler too. I prefer the word progressive, which has a real American meaning, going back to the progressive era at the beginning of the 20th Century. I consider myself a modern progressive. - HILLARY CLINTON, JULY 23, 2007 http://reason.com/archives/2006/05/05/when-bigots-become-reformers -- - Jane Galt Remember that there is no such dichotomy as 'human rights' versus 'property rights.' No human rights can exist without property rights. Since material goods are produced by the mind and effort of individual men, and are needed to sustain their lives, if the producer does not own the result of his effort, he does not own his life. To deny property rights means to turn men into property owned by the state. Whoever claims the 'right' to 'redistribute' the wealth produced by others is claiming the 'right' to treat human beings as chattel. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?
S. Beaulieu sereenie-nosp...@netscape.net wrote : Jane_Galt a écrit : Socialist types constantly smear him but he's right most of the time on facts. I have this nice bridge you might be interested in... S. Socialism must be your religion. -- - Jane Galt Remember that there is no such dichotomy as 'human rights' versus 'property rights.' No human rights can exist without property rights. Since material goods are produced by the mind and effort of individual men, and are needed to sustain their lives, if the producer does not own the result of his effort, he does not own his life. To deny property rights means to turn men into property owned by the state. Whoever claims the 'right' to 'redistribute' the wealth produced by others is claiming the 'right' to treat human beings as chattel. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?
Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote : Jordon wrote: Jane_Galt wrote: Is Seamonkey considered defunct now? I cant even get it to work anymore with my subscription of Webshots. Webshots doesn't like people that believe Glenn Beck tells the truth. anything at Fox news is suspect. ` -- - Jane Galt Remember that there is no such dichotomy as 'human rights' versus 'property rights.' No human rights can exist without property rights. Since material goods are produced by the mind and effort of individual men, and are needed to sustain their lives, if the producer does not own the result of his effort, he does not own his life. To deny property rights means to turn men into property owned by the state. Whoever claims the 'right' to 'redistribute' the wealth produced by others is claiming the 'right' to treat human beings as chattel. -- Ayn Rand ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?
On 10-12-15 11:15 PM, Jane_Galt wrote: S. Beaulieusereenie-nosp...@netscape.net wrote : Jane_Galt a écrit : Socialist types constantly smear him but he's right most of the time on facts. I have this nice bridge you might be interested in... S. Socialism must be your religion. Hi Jane, You're getting this message because I've noticed that you've been posting a lot of off-topic messages lately. So you're aware, the mozilla.support.* newsgroups are subject to the Mozilla Forum Etiquette rules http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html. Stay on topic is one of those basic rules. As a matter of fact, off-topic posts are eligible for removal from the news server. See http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html. As per the policy, consider this your official warning. Your posting address does not appear to be valid, so this warning is being posted here. If it would help you to see which posts I considered off-topic, please just e-mail me back. It's important to remember that the reason people subscribe to the Mozilla Support newsgroups or mailing lists is for user support; and if they have to read through many messages that are of no help in their use of the product, they're not getting what they subscribed for. I would appreciate it if you cut down on the amount off-topic messages that you post, to help keep the newsgroups focused on user support. Thanks. If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you can do: * You can reply to the poster via private email * You can suggest taking the discussion to a place where the discussion would not be off-topic. * You can force replies to be sent to the mozilla.general, where off-topic discussion is allowed. To do that, just set the Followup-To header on your post. [Demonstration video: http://ilias.ca/flashback/tb2-followup.html] If you'd like to reply to this message, please email me with a valid return address, thanks. Replies to this message posted in the newsgroup will be removed. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.11 Security Update
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 15 décembre 2010, Bret Busby a écrit : No, I do not try dealing with .tar and .tar.zip or whatever files anymore, for installing software. I have previously stated that my experience of what has been involved, is horrenous - it is like something out of a kafkaesque nightmare. Archives are only containers. That experience you have depends on the contents: sources or binaries. The cited webpage explicitly mentions Lenny as having the required dependencies. In the past, with trying to keep up to date with a Mozilla or Netscape web browser suite, by unsing the horrible .tar.zip method of instalation, I had to create a new directory in a particular path, and put the furball into that, then decompress it, and it installed it in a lower level directory, and, due to the way that it all operated, I was having to go down seven levels of directories and beyond, to do the horrible decompress process, and it just became too nasty. And, in all of that, I then had to find where the executable file was located, and work out how to get the software to run by creating bodgy menu entries or the seven plus level paths for the command line statement required to run the software. It kind of leads to an understanding as to why some people prefer to slit their wrists. This is one of the advantages of using package management - it takes care of dependencies, and, it replaces, as needed, software or software components, as they need updating, and, it generally takes care of maintaining menu entries, AND updating software, as updates become available. Using package management for installing and updating software, is much preferable to the kafkaesque nightmare of using furballs for software. It is one reason why software for creating packages, is available for software developers, and it makes Microsoft Access 2 and/or Microsoft Access97, far superior to the current Firefox and Seamonkey development - Microsoft Access 2 and/or 97, had an SDK available, which allowed a developer to create an installable, standalone database, that meant that the software could be installed, by more or less clicking install, and away it went, unlike this nightmarish system of using furballs, instead of installable packages. Unfortunately, it appears that Mozilla, in the Firefox and Seamonkey projects, has not yet advanced to the level of Microsoft Access 2 and 97, or Opera, or, other software that can run on Linux, that uses package management for software installation and maintenance. As I have previously said - it is a question of whether software is written for the benefit of users, or, for the benefit of the software developers. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AAAAAARGGG Again-Seamonkey 2 Deleted/removed itself??
Jay Garcia wrote: On 15.12.2010 18:27, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 15.12.2010 17:42, BJD wrote: --- Original Message --- Ok, this is too much. Seamonkey 2 seems to have Deleted/removed itself?? In a previous post (12/6/10), I had just upgraded to Seamonkey version 2 and lost all but one of my profiles (S.Beaulieu was kind enough to post info on how to recover my other profiles. Last night, 12/14/10, I clicked on the Seamonkey desktop icon and nothing happened: I got a message saying that seamonkey.exe is not a valid application??? Thinking it was a 'congested computer problem',I rebooted -now the Seamonkey Icon was blank- and got the same result when I clicked on it. I followed the desktop shortcut found the seamonkey.exe file was 0 bytes! (see: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/bjweiss/SMfolder.jpg ) What's going on. How could Seamonkey get uninstalled or corrupted? Did it try and automatically upgrade itself? Can I recover from this or do I need to try a new install? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. ...Brian Interesting, are you running an AV application that may think it was a virus and removed the .exe file or rendered it useless? I have Symantec AV which does a small scan on reboot and maybe monitors email. (I'm not at my home computer right now so I'm not sure of the edition or settings). I also have Malwarebytes SUPERAntiSpyware (both are free versions, that have to be initiated manually). ...Brian I have the Pro version of SAS and I removed the trial of MWB but I've never had anything like this happen at any time. Thanks for the info. After checking my home laptop, I have Symantec AV Corporate Edition (ver 10). I checked the logs, etc. -- nothing in Quarantine, etc. (set to do a Quick Scan on computer Startup. SAS MWB: SAS last scan activity, November, 2010. MWB: Last activity, March, 2010. So I don't think any of these programs are the culprit. Fortunately, I still have Seamonkey version 1.1.9 on two other computers, so I still can extract some of the saved emails profile/newsgroup info. I'm hesitant to go ahead and do a new re-install of seamonkey 2 on this (WindowsXT,SP3) laptop at this point in time (of which I have none! I'm supposed to be doing Xmas online shopping but I'm having ATT-DSL problems at the same time, which I've been putting off dealing with -Just keep re-booting the Modem to get an new IP ... temproarily fixes the problem. Also, even to post to this group I have to VPN RDP to my work desktop (after rebooting the DSL modem one or more times...). Sorry for the rant... I've been using seamonkey because of the multiple profile feature (I started with Netscape Communicator, years ago...) ...Brian -- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey