Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Keith Whaley

Rufus wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac
features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.



Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. If
2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that way
or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM 
I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About 
SeaMonkey icon.
I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used 
2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it 
works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp.  :-)


Best to one and all... keith


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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 25 May 2011 01:17:16 -0700, Keith Whaley wrote:

 Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM 
 I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About 
 SeaMonkey icon.
 I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used 
 2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
 So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it 
 works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp.  :-)

Keith, Do you have an extension installed like User Agent Switcher, or
Prefbar, or have manually edited about:config to change your user agent?

Go to about:config
and filter for useragent
Any entries in bold have been changed from the default. To reset back to
the defaults right click on such bolded entries and select Reset.

Phil

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Loss of Homepage setting

2011-05-25 Thread Daniel

SM 2.0.14 on Mandravia Linux 2009.0 on a HP 6230B Laptop

This afternoon, I had SM running (Mail/News and Chatzilla but *NOT* 
browser as far as I can remember) but had finished with it so closed SM. 
No problems so far.


This evening, I logged into my ISP, started SM and then started the 
Browser, and was presented with a screen offering to restore my last 
session. I selected to not restore, and was presented with a blank 
screen rather than SM displaying my homepage, as I expected.


No problem, just closed that blank screen, and on the mail  newsgroup 
screen I clicked on the Browser icon in the bottom left, and was 
presented with a blank screen. I checked Edit-Prefs-Browser-Home 
Page, and it still showed my three address Group homepage.


I closed the prefs screen and clicked the Browser icon in the bottom 
left of the still showing *Browser* screen, and, as expected, a new 
screen opened up displaying my three address Group homepage.


I've closed the Browser screens and just clicked the browser icon on 
this Compose screen and go a blank screen in the browser, again!!


How do I fix this, so that the first browser screen displays my desired 
Home Group??


(Realising this could be difficult to chase down, as you need to cancel 
the Restore offering to have the possible fault to occur.)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread Robert Kaiser

NoOp schrieb:

$ memstat -w | grep seamonkey   


I think there's a number of blog posts out there that accurately tell 
how inaccurate measures like this really are when it comes to what 
actual memory is being used. All OSes only give you measures of either 
virtual memory or some random guesses, all which don't really map to 
actual memory usage, because doing that it almost impossible, given that 
some files from disk are mapped into memory and memory for code can be 
and are shared across applications and processes.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: error 553

2011-05-25 Thread WLS

Ray_Net wrote:

WLS wrote:

Linda wrote:

553 Can't open that file: No such file or directory


What ftp program are you using?

What directory or file are you trying to open?

Is there a typo in your connection attempt?


Could it be that SM is the ftp program trying to load the file ?
If yes, how to get the ftp log ?


Looks like we will never know. But I see the images changing on the 
right side of the page where I am pretty sure they were not before. 
Problem solved?


Would like to know how someone can tell the site was made with Dreamweaver.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread NoOp
On 05/25/2011 05:15 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 $ memstat -w | grep seamonkey
 
 I think there's a number of blog posts out there that accurately tell 
 how inaccurate measures like this really are when it comes to what 
 actual memory is being used. All OSes only give you measures of either 
 virtual memory or some random guesses, all which don't really map to 
 actual memory usage, because doing that it almost impossible, given that 
 some files from disk are mapped into memory and memory for code can be 
 and are shared across applications and processes.
 
 Robert Kaiser
 
 

Understand.

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man1/memstat.1.html
quote
DESCRIPTION

 memstat   lists  all  accessible  processes,  executables,  and  shared
 libraries that are using up virtual memory.  To  get  a  complete  list
 memstat  has  to  be  run  as root to be able to access the data of all
 running processes.

 First, the processes are listed.  An amount of memory  is  shown  along
 with  a  process ID and the name of the executable which the process is
 running.  The amount of memory shown does not include shared memory: it
 only  includes  memory  which  is  private  to  that process.  So, if a
 process is using a shared library like libc, the memory  used  to  hold
 that library is not included.  The memory used to hold the executable’s
 text-segment is also not included, since that too is shareable.

 After the processes, the shared objects  are  listed.   The  amount  of
 memory  is shown along with the filename of the shared object, followed
 by a list of the processes using  the  shared  object.  The  memory  is
 listed  as  the  total  amount  of  memory  allocated  to  this  object
 throughout the whole namespace.  In brackets also the  amount  that  is
 really shared is listed.

 Finally,  a  grand  total  is  shown.  Note that this program shows the
 amount of virtual (not real) memory used by the various items.
/quote

I'd be interested in reading one of those blogs relating to memstat if
you have a link.
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Re: error 553

2011-05-25 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WLS wrote:

 Would like to know how someone can tell the site was made with
 Dreamweaver.

I must be that someone. I said, But, the page was written with
DreamWeaver,  instead of SeaMonkey Composer.

If you look in the source of the cited page, you will see various bits
of JavaScript included by default with most versions of DreamWeaver:
   function MM_preloadImages()
   function MM_swapImgRestore()
   function MM_findObj(n, d)
   function MM_swapImage()

See answer by felgall.
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206522

Of course, Linda could be taking over for a previous DreamWeaver user,
and trying to continue with Composer -- not a good idea, as all the DW
templating advantages go away.

There are lots of little 'signature' bits that the wysiwyg editors use.

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Re: error 553

2011-05-25 Thread WLS

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

WLS wrote:


Would like to know how someone can tell the site was made with
Dreamweaver.


I must be that someone. I said, But, the page was written with
DreamWeaver,  instead of SeaMonkey Composer.

If you look in the source of the cited page, you will see various bits
of JavaScript included by default with most versions of DreamWeaver:
function MM_preloadImages()
function MM_swapImgRestore()
function MM_findObj(n, d)
function MM_swapImage()

See answer by felgall.
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206522

Of course, Linda could be taking over for a previous DreamWeaver user,
and trying to continue with Composer -- not a good idea, as all the DW
templating advantages go away.

There are lots of little 'signature' bits that the wysiwyg editors use.



Thank you for the lesson. I looked at the source, but wasn't aware that 
section was a DreamWeaver signature.


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Re: error 553

2011-05-25 Thread Jay Garcia
On 25.05.2011 11:09, WLS wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 WLS wrote:

 Would like to know how someone can tell the site was made with
 Dreamweaver.

 I must be that someone. I said, But, the page was written with
 DreamWeaver,  instead of SeaMonkey Composer.

 If you look in the source of the cited page, you will see various bits
 of JavaScript included by default with most versions of DreamWeaver:
 function MM_preloadImages()
 function MM_swapImgRestore()
 function MM_findObj(n, d)
 function MM_swapImage()

 See answer by felgall.
 http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206522

 Of course, Linda could be taking over for a previous DreamWeaver user,
 and trying to continue with Composer -- not a good idea, as all the DW
 templating advantages go away.

 There are lots of little 'signature' bits that the wysiwyg editors use.

 
 Thank you for the lesson. I looked at the source, but wasn't aware that
 section was a DreamWeaver signature.
 
 WLS

IIRC, Microsoft FrontPage has the same function or very similar.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread Robert Kaiser

NoOp schrieb:

  memstat   lists  all  accessible  processes,  executables,  and  shared
  libraries that are using up virtual memory.


The important hing to note here is the last two words: virtual memory. 
Processes reserve virtual memory for the chance that they might want to 
address that amount of memory at some time while they're running, but 
they usually don't use all of that virtual memory actively at any time.



I'd be interested in reading one of those blogs relating to memstat if
you have a link.


I don't think any I read talk specifically about memstat, but I've seen 
them talk about virtual memory usage compared to other measures.


Unfortunately, I right now don't find the posts that talked about the 
overall picture of this, I only find ones about details on memory 
profiling and trying to reduce memory usage.


Robert Kaiser


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SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-25 Thread chicagofan
For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not 
loading.  It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO 
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it 
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.


The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset 
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng.  Is there 
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone 
have any idea WHAT is happening?   TIA.

bj
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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 22 May 2011 07:32:50 -0700, /Ant/:

On 5/22/2011 7:27 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed:

Ant wrote:


If so, then is there a way to disable it?


SM 2.1 (ETA next week) will support all accelerations Firefox 4 
supports, i.e. D2D, D3D etc. but you can easily disable them all via 
Preferences. AFAIK SM 2.0 has none of these.


Ah cool! I hope it is by the long Memorial Day weekend so I can play 
with it! ;)


Note, Windows XP user currently get less hardware acceleration than 
Vista/7 users.  The plan is to enable full hardware acceleration on 
Windows XP, too, but I don't know which Gecko/Firefox it is expected 
to land with.  I don't know what are the plans for the next 
SeaMonkey version (would based on which Gecko version?), also.


http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/

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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread NoOp
On 05/25/2011 10:38 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Sun, 22 May 2011 07:32:50 -0700, /Ant/:
 On 5/22/2011 7:27 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed:
 Ant wrote:

 If so, then is there a way to disable it?

 SM 2.1 (ETA next week) will support all accelerations Firefox 4 
 supports, i.e. D2D, D3D etc. but you can easily disable them all via 
 Preferences. AFAIK SM 2.0 has none of these.
 
 Ah cool! I hope it is by the long Memorial Day weekend so I can play 
 with it! ;)
 
 Note, Windows XP user currently get less hardware acceleration than 
 Vista/7 users.  The plan is to enable full hardware acceleration on 
 Windows XP, too, but I don't know which Gecko/Firefox it is expected 
 to land with.  I don't know what are the plans for the next 
 SeaMonkey version (would based on which Gecko version?), also.
 
 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/
 

Interesting  thanks for the link. Running the test in SeaMonkey 2.1RC1
(linux 32bit) I finally had to kill the test (it was just flipping
between 1  2 fps). In Opera I get 8 fps (I have an old nVida NV25GL
[Quadro4 900 XGL] workstation card on this machine). In Google Chrome 
Chromium 9 fps, epihany 4 fps, Firefox 4.0.1 4 fps (takes the cpu to 100%).


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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-25 Thread Rufus

Keith Whaley wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac
features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be
replaced
by SM 2.1.



Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. If
2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that way
or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


Assuming that what David said is indeed the case, the Mac version of SM
I have in in fact 2.0.13 and it only SAYs it's 2.0.14 under the About
SeaMonkey icon.
I believe what David said above, because I had downloaded and used
2.0.14 directly, and Widgets WAS demonstrably broken.
So this one that shows the duplicious identity really IS 2.0.13, and it
works just fine for me, Widgets and all. Clean and crisp. :-)

Best to one and all... keith




Ok...I'm running SM 2.0.14 and Widgets work...I was thinking you were 
talking about 2.1.x of some sort.  I'm not liking much of what I read 
about 2.1.x.


The most definitive way to find out which version of any app you 
actually have installed (or at least what OS X thinks you have 
installed) is to open System Profiler and look under Applications. 
Takes longer, because it shows you everything you have on your 
machine...but worth a cross-check.


One other thing you may have run across is that going directly from any 
of the 1.1.x versions without installing 2.0.0 first can screw stuff up 
- I've seen that, too.  I always advise Mac users moving up to 2.0.x to 
install 2.0.0 first and let it do the migration, then install 2.0.x.


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Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-25 Thread David E. Ross
According to Slashdot, Mozilla Labs is evaluating whether to eliminate
the address area from Firefox.  See
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/05/25/1532246/Mozilla-Labs-the-URL-Bar-Has-To-Go.
 The discussion at Slashdot also has some very negative comments about
the elimination of the status bar, which has already happened in Firefox.

PLEASE don't implement either of these dis-improvements in SeaMonkey.  I
use SeaMonkey because I think it has a superior user interface when
compared with Firefox.  The address area and status bar are both parts
of the user interface that I use.

Followup-To set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-25 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading.  It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj


Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then 
click Rebuild Summary File?


Also updating to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 might help. Maybe a bug was fixed.

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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-25 Thread chicagofan

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading.  It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj
 

Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then
click Rebuild Summary File?
   


No, I haven't tried that.  Thanks for the suggestion.  :)
bj


Also updating to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 might help. Maybe a bug was fixed.

WLS
   




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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-25 Thread chicagofan

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:
   

chicagofan wrote:

 

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading.  It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj

   

Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then
click Rebuild Summary File?

 

No, I haven't tried that.  Thanks for the suggestion.  :)
bj
   


P.S.  -  It did rebuild the summary file and opened up however it 
dropped the 8 or 9 messages I had saved to reply to later.   Maybe the 
news server re-numbered the messages and that's why it was having a 
problem retrieving/downloading the ng file for me before.


Anyway, thanks for the rebuild suggestion, because that at least saves 
me from re-entering all my filters.  :)

bj

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Re: Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-25 Thread PhillipJones

Mike wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

According to Slashdot, Mozilla Labs is evaluating whether to eliminate
the address area from Firefox. See
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/05/25/1532246/Mozilla-Labs-the-URL-Bar-Has-To-Go.

The discussion at Slashdot also has some very negative comments about
the elimination of the status bar, which has already happened in Firefox.

PLEASE don't implement either of these dis-improvements in SeaMonkey. I
use SeaMonkey because I think it has a superior user interface when
compared with Firefox. The address area and status bar are both parts
of the user interface that I use.


 From the linked article:

A guest blog post by community member, David Regev

He's a community member. Not part of Mozilla.


Not only there but reports on ZDnet, cNet, and Computerworld

It is the most Dumba** idea anyone has ever come up with. I have a 17 
LapTop and 17 Monitor for my desktop if I can see what I need to 
missing a 1/8 of an inch or less, I have more problems than just an 
extra 1/8' inch.


Come on folks Just because Google does something Dumb. we don't have to 
follow suit. as one article said how are people going to figure what 
websites a Spam or Phishing. Come on Guys and Gals use some common sense 
if you have any.


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Re: SM 2.0.10 Newsgroup problem

2011-05-25 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

chicagofan wrote:

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

For the second time, I am having a problem with ONE newsgroup not
loading. It's the same newsgroup and when I click to open it, TWO
applications of the news server appear in my Task Manager and it
consumes 100% of the CPU... and can not load.

The last time this happened I just gave up, subscribed again and reset
all of my filters, which happens to be quite a job in that ng. Is there
anything I can do to get around whatever is happening... or does anyone
have any idea WHAT is happening? TIA.
bj

Did you try right clicking on the newsgroup, select properties and then
click Rebuild Summary File?


No, I haven't tried that. Thanks for the suggestion. :)


Interesting. Out of curiosity, I tried it myself (had never done it 
before). CPU spiked to 95-99% and stayed there for about 10 minutes, 
while RAM usage spiked from 150 MB (I had a video loaded) to about 320 
MB, bounced around for awhile in that general range. Finally, SM 
returned to normal and I was able to read messages and browse again.


However, when it did, the unread message count in this NG was zero, 
despite the presence of six unread messages (in bold). As I advanced 
through them using N, the count stayed at zero, and when I got to the 
last one, N prompted me to go to the first unread message in my mail 
inbox.


My view settings were:
Sort by: Order received, Ascending, Threaded
Messages: All   
Threads: Threads with unread

When the process completed, my threads setting had been changed to 
all. After I read all unread messages, I set it back to Threads with 
unread, and all threads disappeared as they should. In the past, when 
it got confused about message count, it would display some threads 
containing no unread messages. And it would also advance to unread 
messages in response to N.


We'll see how long this lasts before it gets confused again.

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Re: Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-25 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/25/11 2:55 PM, Mike wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 According to Slashdot, Mozilla Labs is evaluating whether to eliminate
 the address area from Firefox.  See
 http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/05/25/1532246/Mozilla-Labs-the-URL-Bar-Has-To-Go.
   The discussion at Slashdot also has some very negative comments about
 the elimination of the status bar, which has already happened in Firefox.

 PLEASE don't implement either of these dis-improvements in SeaMonkey.  I
 use SeaMonkey because I think it has a superior user interface when
 compared with Firefox.  The address area and status bar are both parts
 of the user interface that I use.
 
  From the linked article:
 
 A guest blog post by community member, David Regev
 
 He's a community member. Not part of Mozilla.
 

The page is hosted by Mozilla Labs, which should lend some credence to
how serious this is.

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Re: Plan to Eliminate Address Area (URL Bar) Panned at Slashdot

2011-05-25 Thread NoOp
On 05/25/2011 03:07 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
...
 It is the most Dumba** idea anyone has ever come up with. I have a 17 
 LapTop and 17 Monitor for my desktop if I can see what I need to 
 missing a 1/8 of an inch or less, I have more problems than just an 
 extra 1/8' inch.
...
Ah, but all the world is turning to netbooks and iWhatevers...

Seriously, this is what grippy is all about. Click the grippy  the URL
bar is gone, click it again and it is back... who woulda thunk it. :-)

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Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-25 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Wed, 25 May 2011 11:17:19 -0700, /NoOp/:

On 05/25/2011 10:38 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Note, Windows XP user currently get less hardware acceleration than
Vista/7 users.  The plan is to enable full hardware acceleration on
Windows XP, too, but I don't know which Gecko/Firefox it is expected
to land with.  I don't know what are the plans for the next
SeaMonkey version (would based on which Gecko version?), also.

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/


Interesting  thanks for the link. Running the test in SeaMonkey 2.1RC1
(linux 32bit) I finally had to kill the test (it was just flipping
between 1  2 fps). In Opera I get 8 fps (I have an old nVida NV25GL
[Quadro4 900 XGL] workstation card on this machine). In Google Chrome 
Chromium 9 fps, epihany 4 fps, Firefox 4.0.1 4 fps (takes the cpu to 100%).


Users with older video cards/drivers are likely to get no hardware 
acceleration at all:


http://blog.mozilla.com/bjacob/2011/03/04/upgrade-your-graphics-drivers/

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting/Blocked_Graphics_Drivers

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