Re: Not supported
Jane-Galt jang...@gulch.pq wrote : Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? ( haven't used FF much yet ) Been using this since earlier today and I'm really getting to like it! Very nice! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and IPv6?
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:22:16 -0500 From: Paul Bergsagel pbergsa...@shaw.ca To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: SeaMonkey and IPv6? Does anyone know if SeaMonkey 2.1 is ready to use IPv6. I am suspecting SeaMonkey can use IPv6, but am not sure. Unfortunately my ISP Shaw has not updated to IPv6. Rumour is that Shaw will only update to IPv6 when IPv6 addresses have run out. I wonder how many internet sites have the same plan to wait until IPv4 addresses have run out before upgrading to IPv6? Just out of interest, it has been reported in Australia, that the IPv4 addresses ran out in February of this year. See http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/08/3239116.htm For iceape 1.0.9 running on Debian 5, The web site at http://test-ipv6.com/ returns Test your IPv6 connectivity. JavaScript Required This site requires JavaScript, as well as the ability to pull in cross-site scripts, in order to perform the testing. If this message does not go away, it means that JavaScript has been disabled, either by a plugin or extension in your browser, or by explicit browser setting. Nasty web page. The simple test web page at http://server2.test-ipv6.com/simple_test.html returns Simple IPv4/IPv6 Test This image based test is provided for those with browsers or browser plugins incompatible with the main test. This page provides only a subset of features, but should be enough for a simple pass/fail. The following table will try and load 3 images. Pass? Method More Info ? IPv4IPv4. Basic traditional Internet. ? IPv4 or IPv6 If green, you will have no problem on World IPv6 day. If this fails, seek help from your IT department, helpdesk, or ISP tech support. If this fails, consider using the full test, with IE, Firefox, Safari, or Chrome, to get more detailed information about possible failure reasons. ? IPv6 If red or blank, do not stress! Few people already have IPv6 at this time; and it is not critical for 2011 but will be for the coming years. With the first two (IPv4 and IPv4 or IPv6) returning tick in green circle, showing okay (?), and the third (IPv6) showing just a question mark, so I am not sure what that means. I hope that all of this does not mean that we have to have javascript enabled to use IPv6. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and IPv6?
Results below are with iceape 1.0.9 running on Debian 5. On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, NoOp wrote: Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:15:38 -0700 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey and IPv6? On 06/08/2011 02:37 PM, NoOp wrote: On 06/07/2011 05:48 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Google has an issue with there IPv6 browser site: http://ipv6.google.com/ ... Looks like I need to add some IPv6 DNS servers. Nope - guess not. These work just fine: http://ipv6.cnn.com/ For this, I get Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact ipv6.cnn.com. http://ipv6.uvrealtime.com/ For this, I get Failed to Connect The connection was refused when attempting to contact ipv6.uvrealtime.com. http://ipv6.6connect.net/ For this, I get Guess what? IPv6 can still see you... So, I am not sure whether that means that iceape 1.0.9 works with IPv6, or, whether that last one is simply an advertising gimmick. etc. So it's an issue with http://ipv6.google.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
High CPU usage
Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines). I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation. The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine (Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine. When this happens on my quad-core machine, Task Manager typically shows high CPU on several cores (usually three), not just one one core as happens when I load a new page. How can I find out what SeaMonkey is doing when this happens? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and IPv6?
W3BNR wrote: On 6/8/2011 6:15 PM NoOp submitted the following: On 06/08/2011 02:37 PM, NoOp wrote: On 06/07/2011 05:48 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Google has an issue with there IPv6 browser site: http://ipv6.google.com/ ... Looks like I need to add some IPv6 DNS servers. Nope - guess not. These work just fine: http://ipv6.cnn.com/ http://ipv6.uvrealtime.com/ http://ipv6.6connect.net/ etc. So it's an issue with http://ipv6.google.com/ ipv6.cnn.com ipv6.uvrealtime.com and ipv6.google.com all return a 'page not found' error through my Verizon ISP. Using Win XP SP3 SM 2.0.15pre Page Guess Verizon is not ready for IPV6 as yet. I got ipv6.6connect.net to work, tried the other three twice each, brought up Page Load Errors each time. SM 2.0.14 on Mandriva Linux on HP 6730b laptop. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
sean bean wrote: i used to be able to drag e'mail addresses into newly created lists or newly created address books from the main personal address book drag drop functionality is missing... in Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 any reason why? sean Hey, Sean, where did SeaMonkey/2.4a1 come from??? 2.0.14 is mainline, 2.1 is at RC2 and soon to go mainline and I've seen some mention of 2.2a1pre, but 2.4??? Or did 2.2a1pre get bumped to 2.4a1?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now
Tony Higgins wrote: Paul wrote: Tony Higgins wrote: I received the message below from PayPal. Here's my version information: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 I've used Netscape/Sea Monkey for browsing and email for about a dozen years and don't wish to change now. I particularly like being to simultaneously manage 5 email addresses. PayPal's page has no instructions for Sea Monkey. When I check for updates from the Help menu no updates are found. What do I do? Tony It works great for me. No messages from PP. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Firefox/2.0.0.24 So should I revert to Version 1.1.19? Or are there security updates I can apply to what I have? I just got the message from PayPal today. I just used it last week to pay for a couple of eBay items. Tony, if you check Paul's Build Identifier you will notice that his SM identifies as both SeaMonkey *AND* Firefox. More and more sites are browser sniffing and displaying their data to suit the browser, but only a few browsers are accepted, MSIE and Firefox being two. This problem is so widespread that when SM 2.1 is released, it will identify itself as both SeaMonkey AND Firefox, just like Paul's 2.0 does now. Tony, if you want to fix this situation in SM 2.0.14, enter about:config in a browser address line. You will get a warning screen, if you're comfortable accept it, then in the Filter line of that screen type useragent (without the quotes). Then either alter general.useragent.extra.seamonkey to include the word Firefox (and a version number if you like), or right click on any pref and give yourself a NEW string pref, general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.firefox, set it as a string and give it a value that includes the word Firefox (without the quotes). Close the prefs page, restart SeaMonkey, go to the pages that were giving you troubles and see how you go. Report back here if necessary. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
Daniel wrote: Or did 2.2a1pre get bumped to 2.4a1?? Exactly. The new versioning scheme follows the rapid release train Firefox started. 2.1: very soon to be released next stable version, currently at RC2 2.2 (current beta branch): next stable version, due in 1-2 months 2.3 (current aurora branch): more stable than trunk version 2.4 (current trunk): bleeding edge. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now
Tony Higgins wrote: I received the message below from PayPal. Here's my version information: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 I've used Netscape/Sea Monkey for browsing and email for about a dozen years and don't wish to change now. I particularly like being to simultaneously manage 5 email addresses. PayPal's page has no instructions for Sea Monkey. When I check for updates from the Help menu no updates are found. What do I do? Tony PayPal Help Keep Your PayPal Account Secure – Update Your Browser Now Get Started It looks like you may be using an outdated browser with known security issues. Help keep your computer and your PayPal account protected by updating your browser today. Update your browser now We've provided step-by-step instructions for the most common browsers. Go to: paypal.com/safebrowser https://email0.paypal.com/servlet/cc6?iitgHQWDYTQqTVHjuPIjHlSDACxPHohhQJhuVaVRV20G62fGv28w9GVRRRDRSBUDVa61ab9VWGBYUBCWEESTAYSW2VGf6be862GEw05VvwvV86fy6bEvb9VDRAWVwzgzgG0b9VWBURYVXLX I received the same email stating my browser was outdated and unsecure and I needed to update to a secure browser. My info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox/4/0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14 - Build ID: 20110420224920 -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
sean bean wrote: i used to be able to drag e'mail addresses into newly created lists or newly created address books from the main personal address book drag drop functionality is missing... in Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 any reason why? sean Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 ID:20110608003003 Same problem here on Linux, Sean. This is the experimental trunk nightly, so if it doesn't get corrected, it may need a bug. There'll be a lot of changes to the code before this one gets out the door. Haven't made other address-books in quite a while, so can't say how far back the regression goes. The New-List allows drag+drop and copypaste on my Linux setup, even though the window says to Type email addresses to add them to the mailing list:. I also fairly-regularly use the mouse highlight (copy) paste to pull info out of the Card Summary Pane, and drop it into other windows/applications, and that is still working OK. I just read all 62 bugs in the *Component:* MailNews: Address Book Contacts , and I can't see anything about this. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- Thanks for the heads-up. Well worth watching. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now
JAS wrote: I received the same email stating my browser was outdated and unsecure and I needed to update to a secure browser. My info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox/4/0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14 - You might want to change that to the following, where the actual word Firefox is separated with spaces, and replace the slashes with a period. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox 4.0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14 -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. While I can select any search result item, and highlight it, I can't open it with the Open button. (I can however delete it with the Delete button. Open Message Folder will open a new message window with the message selected.)) This is stuff I used to do all the time with earlier versions of SeaMonkey (such as 2.0), so this is very worrisome. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: JAS wrote: I received the same email stating my browser was outdated and unsecure and I needed to update to a secure browser. My info: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox/4/0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14 - You might want to change that to the following, where the actual word Firefox is separated with spaces, and replace the slashes with a period. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox 4.0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Thanks, will change. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey and IPv6?
Bret Busby wrote: On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Paul Bergsagel wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:22:16 -0500 From: Paul Bergsagel pbergsa...@shaw.ca To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: SeaMonkey and IPv6? Does anyone know if SeaMonkey 2.1 is ready to use IPv6. I am suspecting SeaMonkey can use IPv6, but am not sure. Unfortunately my ISP Shaw has not updated to IPv6. Rumour is that Shaw will only update to IPv6 when IPv6 addresses have run out. I wonder how many internet sites have the same plan to wait until IPv4 addresses have run out before upgrading to IPv6? Just out of interest, it has been reported in Australia, that the IPv4 addresses ran out in February of this year. See http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/08/3239116.htm For iceape 1.0.9 running on Debian 5, The web site at http://test-ipv6.com/ returns Test your IPv6 connectivity. JavaScript Required This site requires JavaScript, as well as the ability to pull in cross-site scripts, in order to perform the testing. If this message does not go away, it means that JavaScript has been disabled, either by a plugin or extension in your browser, or by explicit browser setting. Nasty web page. The simple test web page at http://server2.test-ipv6.com/simple_test.html returns Simple IPv4/IPv6 Test This image based test is provided for those with browsers or browser plugins incompatible with the main test. This page provides only a subset of features, but should be enough for a simple pass/fail. The following table will try and load 3 images. Pass? Method More Info ? IPv4 IPv4. Basic traditional Internet. ? IPv4 or IPv6 If green, you will have no problem on World IPv6 day. If this fails, seek help from your IT department, helpdesk, or ISP tech support. If this fails, consider using the full test, with IE, Firefox, Safari, or Chrome, to get more detailed information about possible failure reasons. ? IPv6 If red or blank, do not stress! Few people already have IPv6 at this time; and it is not critical for 2011 but will be for the coming years. With the first two (IPv4 and IPv4 or IPv6) returning tick in green circle, showing okay (?), and the third (IPv6) showing just a question mark, so I am not sure what that means. I hope that all of this does not mean that we have to have javascript enabled to use IPv6. Works just fine the site. My ISP is not v6 ready yet. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now
Daniel wrote: Tony Higgins wrote: Paul wrote: Tony Higgins wrote: I received the message below from PayPal. Here's my version information: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 I've used Netscape/Sea Monkey for browsing and email for about a dozen years and don't wish to change now. I particularly like being to simultaneously manage 5 email addresses. PayPal's page has no instructions for Sea Monkey. When I check for updates from the Help menu no updates are found. What do I do? Tony It works great for me. No messages from PP. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Firefox/2.0.0.24 So should I revert to Version 1.1.19? Or are there security updates I can apply to what I have? I just got the message from PayPal today. I just used it last week to pay for a couple of eBay items. Tony, if you check Paul's Build Identifier you will notice that his SM identifies as both SeaMonkey *AND* Firefox. More and more sites are browser sniffing and displaying their data to suit the browser, but only a few browsers are accepted, MSIE and Firefox being two. This problem is so widespread that when SM 2.1 is released, it will identify itself as both SeaMonkey AND Firefox, just like Paul's 2.0 does now. Tony, if you want to fix this situation in SM 2.0.14, enter about:config in a browser address line. You will get a warning screen, if you're comfortable accept it, then in the Filter line of that screen type useragent (without the quotes). Then either alter general.useragent.extra.seamonkey to include the word Firefox (and a version number if you like), or right click on any pref and give yourself a NEW string pref, general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.firefox, set it as a string and give it a value that includes the word Firefox (without the quotes). Close the prefs page, restart SeaMonkey, go to the pages that were giving you troubles and see how you go. Report back here if necessary. use to be you could add to end of agent string /not Firefox/4.0 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Or did 2.2a1pre get bumped to 2.4a1?? Exactly. The new versioning scheme follows the rapid release train Firefox started. 2.1: very soon to be released next stable version, currently at RC2 2.2 (current beta branch): next stable version, due in 1-2 months 2.3 (current aurora branch): more stable than trunk version 2.4 (current trunk): bleeding edge. HTH Jens it updated sometime yesterday... to Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: sean bean wrote: i used to be able to drag e'mail addresses into newly created lists or newly created address books from the main personal address book drag drop functionality is missing... in Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 any reason why? sean Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 ID:20110608003003 Same problem here on Linux, Sean. This is the experimental trunk nightly, so if it doesn't get corrected, it may need a bug. There'll be a lot of changes to the code before this one gets out the door. Haven't made other address-books in quite a while, so can't say how far back the regression goes. The New-List allows drag+drop and copypaste on my Linux setup, even though the window says to Type email addresses to add them to the mailing list:. I also fairly-regularly use the mouse highlight (copy) paste to pull info out of the Card Summary Pane, and drop it into other windows/applications, and that is still working OK. I just read all 62 bugs in the *Component:* MailNews: Address Book Contacts , and I can't see anything about this. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- Thanks for the heads-up. Well worth watching. i'm using it as my every day e'mail/browser client... no real issues w/it other than the need to create new addressbooks to separate work life from private life or e'mail lists of my most regularly e'mailed friends and clients... neither the drag/drop nor mouse highlight/copy/paste work for me at the moment sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
David Wilkinson no-re...@effisols.com wrote : Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on the net. One little problem with the bookmarks though. I can no longer edit the Properties and add my own notes. For example if I want to buy something, I usually edit Properties and say at the beginning: BUY THIS. Or if I bought something: BOUGHT THIS ONE Maybe they can fix that before the full release? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines). I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation. The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine (Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine. When this happens on my quad-core machine, Task Manager typically shows high CPU on several cores (usually three), not just one one core as happens when I load a new page. How can I find out what SeaMonkey is doing when this happens? Good question. I've been seeing this for months now. I believe it has something to do with the mail component in SM. If I run just the browser it's fine. Once I run mail, however, I see these periodic freezes. I've tried turning off automatic mail and news refresh/message download to no avail. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ In any conflict the boundaries of behavior are defined by the party which cares least about morality. - Randy Wayne White ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Ed Mullen wrote: Good question. I've been seeing this for months now. I believe it has something to do with the mail component in SM. If I run just the browser it's fine. Once I run mail, however, I see these periodic freezes. I've tried turning off automatic mail and news refresh/message download to no avail. If you close all mail windows then the mail part of SeaMonkey does not do anything? I would think so, but I tried this one time and it did not seem to help. I do have a lot of mail accounts and (especially) newsgroup accounts. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
Jane-Galt wrote: David Wilkinsonno-re...@effisols.com wrote : Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on the net. Why not staying with Pegasus Mail ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
On 6/9/11 11:42 AM, Jane-Galt wrote: David Wilkinson no-re...@effisols.com wrote : Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on the net. One little problem with the bookmarks though. I can no longer edit the Properties and add my own notes. For example if I want to buy something, I usually edit Properties and say at the beginning: BUY THIS. Or if I bought something: BOUGHT THIS ONE Maybe they can fix that before the full release? You can add comments to bookmarks now. 1. On the menu bar, select [Bookmarks Manage Bookmarks]. 2. On the left pane of the Bookmarks Manager window, navigate to the folder containing the bookmark on which you want to add a comment. Select that folder. 3. All the bookmarks in that folder will appear in the right pane. Select the specific bookmark. 4. Below the pane listing individual bookmarks will be three input areas: Name, Location, Tags. At the bottom, there will also be a button with More to its right. Select that button. 5. Two addtional input areas will appear: Keyword, Description. Enter your comment in Description. 6. Again, select the specific bookmark to apply the change (the comment). 7. If you are like me and use an HTML display of your bookmarks as a home page: 7.a. Go to the menu bar on the Bookmarks Manager window and select [Tools Export HTML]. 7.b. Navigate to where you want to keep the HTML file and select the Save button. Since I have several profiles, each with a different HTML file of bookmarks, I keep the files in my profiles. If I open my Preferences window -- [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar -- the initial pane on the window provides for setting my home page to the HTML file of my bookmarks. In case I forget to export the actual bookmarks to an HTML file, I also set the preference variable browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to true. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
On 06/09/2011 09:11 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote: I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. While I can select any search result item, and highlight it, I can't open it with the Open button. (I can however delete it with the Delete button. Open Message Folder will open a new message window with the message selected.)) This is stuff I used to do all the time with earlier versions of SeaMonkey (such as 2.0), so this is very worrisome. Confirm w/Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110531 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre Recommend filing a bug report. When you do I'll add to it noting the same issue w/linux. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
Bob Fleischer wrote: I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. Known, and fixed for the SeaMonkey 2.2 (due in ~1 month): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660882 Unfortunately it was found too late to be fixed for 2.1. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Good question. I've been seeing this for months now. I believe it has something to do with the mail component in SM. If I run just the browser it's fine. Once I run mail, however, I see these periodic freezes. I've tried turning off automatic mail and news refresh/message download to no avail. If you close all mail windows then the mail part of SeaMonkey does not do anything? I would think so, but I tried this one time and it did not seem to help. I do have a lot of mail accounts and (especially) newsgroup accounts. In my experience, if I close the mail window but leave the browser open, the mail app continues to poll for messages and download them on schedule (unless I change the settings). I still get the little envelope in the tray when incoming messages arrive, and if I then open the mail app, they've already been downloaded and are ready to read. And I, too, have periodic freezes that seem to coincide with the downloading of mail. I mostly notice these when playing videos, which is a CPU-intensive process. In that case, the only way to recover is to pause the video and restart it from the point where it froze (once it freezes, it stays frozen). Audio is not affected. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: In my experience, if I close the mail window but leave the browser open, the mail app continues to poll for messages and download them on schedule (unless I change the settings). I still get the little envelope in the tray when incoming messages arrive, and if I then open the mail app, they've already been downloaded and are ready to read. And I, too, have periodic freezes that seem to coincide with the downloading of mail. I mostly notice these when playing videos, which is a CPU-intensive process. In that case, the only way to recover is to pause the video and restart it from the point where it froze (once it freezes, it stays frozen). Audio is not affected. I must say that if it is mailnews that is causing these freezes (and messing up the browser) this is a very strong reason not to use SeaMonkey. But surely it should be possible to run the mailnews downloads at low enough priority that they do not interfere with more performance-critical stuff. But why are you so sure that it is mailnews downloads that is causing the problem? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: In my experience, if I close the mail window but leave the browser open, the mail app continues to poll for messages and download them on schedule (unless I change the settings). I still get the little envelope in the tray when incoming messages arrive, and if I then open the mail app, they've already been downloaded and are ready to read. And I, too, have periodic freezes that seem to coincide with the downloading of mail. I mostly notice these when playing videos, which is a CPU-intensive process. In that case, the only way to recover is to pause the video and restart it from the point where it froze (once it freezes, it stays frozen). Audio is not affected. I must say that if it is mailnews that is causing these freezes (and messing up the browser) this is a very strong reason not to use SeaMonkey. But surely it should be possible to run the mailnews downloads at low enough priority that they do not interfere with more performance-critical stuff. But why are you so sure that it is mailnews downloads that is causing the problem? I said seem to coincide with. This is not the same as so sure. Please read more carefully. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I said seem to coincide with. This is not the same as so sure. Please read more carefully. Sorry about that. But why do you think it is mailnews? When you are in a browser window how do you know that mailnews is downloading? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
Jens Hatlak wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. Known, and fixed for the SeaMonkey 2.2 (due in ~1 month): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660882 Unfortunately it was found too late to be fixed for 2.1. HTH Jens Then I might just as well stay on 2.0.14 and wait, unless the workarounds are real easy. Easier than: 1. - search messages 2. - Mark/flag all messages in list 3. - return to total list 4. - sort on marks/flags, to get all the messages from the search contiguous 5. - Do whatever actions on selections from this sublist. ( sorting won't work. But it doesn't work flexibly anyway) 6. - Clear flags 7. - Fix up sorting, et.c. of the original message list. 8. - Grumble, grumble How long and stretchable is that ~1 month? Software delivery dates have a habit of slipping! P.s I do wish there was an option to enable, let, the search pattern be a regular expression. (a la Vim ...) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
On 6/9/2011 7:32 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. Known, and fixed for the SeaMonkey 2.2 (due in ~1 month): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660882 Unfortunately it was found too late to be fixed for 2.1. HTH Jens Then I might just as well stay on 2.0.14 and wait, unless the workarounds are real easy. Easier than: 1. - search messages 2. - Mark/flag all messages in list 3. - return to total list 4. - sort on marks/flags, to get all the messages from the search contiguous 5. - Do whatever actions on selections from this sublist. ( sorting won't work. But it doesn't work flexibly anyway) 6. - Clear flags 7. - Fix up sorting, et.c. of the original message list. 8. - Grumble, grumble How long and stretchable is that ~1 month? Software delivery dates have a habit of slipping! P.s I do wish there was an option to enable, let, the search pattern be a regular expression. (a la Vim ...) If I can get the 2.2 beta 1 out in a reasonable time, without too much problems, I can probably be persuaded to write an addon to fix this bug for 2.1 users. I make no guarantees though. -- Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote : Jane-Galt wrote: David Wilkinsonno-re...@effisols.com wrote : Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. I'm ok. I've used Pegasus Mail since around 1994 when I first got on the net. Why not staying with Pegasus Mail ? ? I AM staying with Pegasus. -- Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. All forced-collectivist societies can be roughly divided between the Makers ( producers of goods and services ) and the Takers ( moochers and looters who get the government to initiate force against the Makers by proxy, to supply their alleged needs. ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I said seem to coincide with. This is not the same as so sure. Please read more carefully. Sorry about that. But why do you think it is mailnews? When you are in a browser window how do you know that mailnews is downloading? Because just when the computer starts responding again, I get the audio and visual alerts that new messages have arrived, and on switching to the mail app, I see new messages in my various folders. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't move addresses..
sean bean wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: sean bean wrote: i used to be able to drag e'mail addresses into newly created lists or newly created address books from the main personal address book drag drop functionality is missing... in Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110607 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 any reason why? sean Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.4a1 ID:20110608003003 Same problem here on Linux, Sean. This is the experimental trunk nightly, so if it doesn't get corrected, it may need a bug. There'll be a lot of changes to the code before this one gets out the door. Haven't made other address-books in quite a while, so can't say how far back the regression goes. The New-List allows drag+drop and copypaste on my Linux setup, even though the window says to Type email addresses to add them to the mailing list:. I also fairly-regularly use the mouse highlight (copy) paste to pull info out of the Card Summary Pane, and drop it into other windows/applications, and that is still working OK. I just read all 62 bugs in the *Component:* MailNews: Address Book Contacts , and I can't see anything about this. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkeycomponent=MailNews%3A%20Address%20Book%20%26%20Contactsresolution=--- Thanks for the heads-up. Well worth watching. i'm using it as my every day e'mail/browser client... no real issues w/it other than the need to create new addressbooks to separate work life from private life or e'mail lists of my most regularly e'mailed friends and clients... neither the drag/drop nor mouse highlight/copy/paste work for me at the moment sean not even to/from lists and the Card Summary Pane ? It's only the address-cards-themselves, that won't move for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.1Pre
What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right of the tabs and get a new tab? Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself. Or did I miss a setting? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/9/2011 7:32 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. Known, and fixed for the SeaMonkey 2.2 (due in ~1 month): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660882 Unfortunately it was found too late to be fixed for 2.1. HTH Jens Then I might just as well stay on 2.0.14 and wait, unless the workarounds are real easy. Easier than: 1. - search messages 2. - Mark/flag all messages in list 3. - return to total list 4. - sort on marks/flags, to get all the messages from the search contiguous 5. - Do whatever actions on selections from this sublist. ( sorting won't work. But it doesn't work flexibly anyway) 6. - Clear flags 7. - Fix up sorting, et.c. of the original message list. 8. - Grumble, grumble How long and stretchable is that ~1 month? Software delivery dates have a habit of slipping! P.s I do wish there was an option to enable, let, the search pattern be a regular expression. (a la Vim ...) If I can get the 2.2 beta 1 out in a reasonable time, without too much problems, I can probably be persuaded to write an addon to fix this bug for 2.1 users. I make no guarantees though. -- Justin Wood (Callek) Understood. You are an unpaid volunteer. Question: But how did 2.1 pass the in-house regression test suite with that bug? It isn't exactly an obscure edge case, which only a perverse user would stumble into, nor new features which needed new test cases . -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
