Re: 2.1Pre

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/9/11 8:41 PM, Jane-Galt wrote:
 What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right of the 
 tabs and get a new tab? 
 
 Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself.
 
 Or did I miss a setting?
 

When you have a tab bar, there is an icon at the far LEFT.  You
left-click on it to open a new tab.

I have my preferences set to hide the tab bar if only one tab is open.
But I have a button on my PrefBar tool bar to open a new tab.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Seamonkey Bookmarks empty/not saved after profile relocation

2011-06-10 Thread cdrom
I have performed a profile relocation from a windows xp machine to a windows 7 machine. After the 
relocation, everything is normal (News, Mail, Add-on installed, passwords saved) is normal except 
the bookmarks. The bookmarks is empty. I can manually import the bookmarks from the old profile. 
However, when I closed seamonkey and restarted again. All the bookmarks are gone. I have checked 
that the bookmarks.html file in the profile is not read only.


My relocation procedure is :

1. At the windows 7 machine, install seamonkey 2.0.14. Test run normal.

2. Close seamonkey. At the user/application data/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles directory, find out the 
name of profile (e.g. 6x.default).


3. Delete the profile directory.

4. Copy the old profile from the windows xp machine to windows 7 machine in the user/application 
data/mozilla/semaonkey/profiles directory.


5. Rename the profile as 6x.default.

6. Restart Seamonkey, everything is normal except the bookmarks.

How can I recovered my bookmarks, or is there a save way to relocate profile from windows xp machine 
to windows 7 machine?


Thanks in advance.




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Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Tony Higgins wrote:

Paul wrote:

Tony Higgins wrote:


snip


Tony, if you want to fix this situation in SM 2.0.14, enter about:config
in a browser address line. You will get a warning screen, if you're
comfortable accept it, then in the Filter line of that screen type
useragent (without the quotes).

Then either alter general.useragent.extra.seamonkey to include the word
Firefox (and a version number if you like), or right click on any pref
and give yourself a NEW string pref,
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.firefox, set it as a string and give
it a value that includes the word Firefox (without the quotes). Close
the prefs page, restart SeaMonkey, go to the pages that were giving you
troubles and see how you go.

Report back here if necessary.


use to be you could add to end of agent string /not Firefox/4.0



Phillip, I thought could it still be done, hence my firstly suggesting 
altering general.useragent.extra.seamonkey to include the word Firefox 
(and a version number if you like)


Doesn't this work now??

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Re: High CPU usage

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel

David Wilkinson wrote:

Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines).

I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and
SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation.

The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably
when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant
response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine
(Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine.

When this happens on my quad-core machine, Task Manager typically shows
high CPU on several cores (usually three), not just one one core as
happens when I load a new page.

How can I find out what SeaMonkey is doing when this happens?



David, to eliminate the possibility that it is the mail that is causing 
this problem, could you go to Edit-Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups and 
under General Settings , untick Only check for mail, Close the 
Preferences window, then go Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and 
select Server Settings on your email account and in the Server Settings 
section, untick Check for new messages, Check for new 
message. and Automatically download.. and close this screen, too.


Then do your normal browsing and then, at the end of your session, open 
the mail portion of SM, get your mail and report back here.


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Re: havung newa trouble

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel

km wrote:

avyone  know of i gux free server???

'preciate it;

b


Whats gux mean in plain English??
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Re: Seamonkey Bookmarks empty/not saved after profile relocation

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel

cdrom wrote:

I have performed a profile relocation from a windows xp machine to a
windows 7 machine. After the relocation, everything is normal (News,
Mail, Add-on installed, passwords saved) is normal except the bookmarks.
The bookmarks is empty. I can manually import the bookmarks from the old
profile. However, when I closed seamonkey and restarted again. All the
bookmarks are gone. I have checked that the bookmarks.html file in the
profile is not read only.

My relocation procedure is :

1. At the windows 7 machine, install seamonkey 2.0.14. Test run normal.

2. Close seamonkey. At the user/application
data/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles directory, find out the name of profile
(e.g. 6x.default).

3. Delete the profile directory.

4. Copy the old profile from the windows xp machine to windows 7 machine
in the user/application data/mozilla/semaonkey/profiles directory.

5. Rename the profile as 6x.default.

6. Restart Seamonkey, everything is normal except the bookmarks.

How can I recovered my bookmarks, or is there a save way to relocate
profile from windows xp machine to windows 7 machine?

Thanks in advance.



I'm watching this thread with interest!

I dual boot Win7 and Mandriva Linux and use the one profile (located on 
one of the Win7 Drives), but when I boot into Win7 SeaMonkey, I get a 
totally different Bookmarks file compared to when I boot into Mandriva 
Linux SeaMonkey.


However, I do get the same Mail  Newsgroups set-up on both systems.

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Re: 2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Kaiser

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb:

Understood. You are an unpaid volunteer.


Everyone in the SeaMonkey project is.


Question: But how did 2.1 pass the in-house regression test suite
with that bug? It isn't exactly an obscure edge case, which only
a perverse user would stumble into, nor new features which needed
new test cases .


We have almost no tests for MailNews - help wanted to write some!

Robert Kaiser

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arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the 
time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :)

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Re: havung newa trouble

2011-06-10 Thread chicagofan

Daniel wrote:

km wrote:
   

avyone  know of i gux free server???

'preciate it;

b
 

Whats gux mean in plain English??
   


I'm guessing good... free server.
bj
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Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now

2011-06-10 Thread Rick Merrill

Tony Higgins wrote:

I received the message below from PayPal. Here's my version information:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14

I've used Netscape/Sea Monkey for browsing and email for about a dozen
years and don't wish to change now. I particularly like being to
simultaneously manage 5 email addresses. PayPal's page has no
instructions for Sea Monkey. When I check for updates from the Help menu
no updates are found. What do I do?

Tony

PayPal

Help Keep Your PayPal Account Secure – Update Your Browser Now
Get Started

It looks like you may be using an outdated browser with known

security issues.

Help keep your computer and your PayPal account protected by
updating your browser today.

Update your browser now
We've provided step-by-step instructions for the most common
browsers.

Go to: paypal.com/safebrowser
https://email0.paypal.com/servlet/cc6?iitgHQWDYTQqTVHjuPIjHlSDACxPHohhQJhuVaVRV20G62fGv28w9GVRRRDRSBUDVa61ab9VWGBYUBCWEESTAYSW2VGf6be862GEw05VvwvV86fy6bEvb9VDRAWVwzgzgG0b9VWBURYVXLX


I thought that email was bogus?
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Re: High CPU usage

2011-06-10 Thread David Wilkinson

Daniel wrote:

David, to eliminate the possibility that it is the mail that is causing
this problem, could you go to Edit-Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups and
under General Settings , untick Only check for mail,


Why to untick this? If I want to throttle mailnews as much as possible, would I 
not want to tick it?


But what does this option mean exactly when ticked? Does it mean that mailnews 
will only consume resources when a mailnews window is open?


BTW, the items in the SeaMonkey Help for this General screen do not seem to 
correspond to the application itself.


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Re: havung newa trouble

2011-06-10 Thread WLS

chicagofan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

km wrote:

avyone know of i gux free server???

'preciate it;

b

Whats gux mean in plain English??


I'm guessing good... free server.
bj


I'm not guessing, since they asked for i gux free server

That said if they are looking for a good free server. Doesn't it 
depend on what you are planning to serve?


The best one I know for web sites is the Apache HTTP Server.

http://httpd.apache.org/
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Re: High CPU usage

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Gordon

David Wilkinson wrote:

Daniel wrote:

David, to eliminate the possibility that it is the mail that is causing
this problem, could you go to Edit-Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups and
under General Settings , untick Only check for mail,


Why to untick this? If I want to throttle mailnews as much as possible,
would I not want to tick it?

But what does this option mean exactly when ticked? Does it mean that
mailnews will only consume resources when a mailnews window is open?

BTW, the items in the SeaMonkey Help for this General screen do not seem
to correspond to the application itself.

If you remove the check for e-mail and leave the check in for browser 
then when you open SM it will only launch the web browser and you will 
have to manually open the mail and newsgroups application.


Another option is to remove all the checks and create icons on your 
desktop to launch SM in Mail, and/or Browser.


Michael G
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Re: can't move addresses..

2011-06-10 Thread sean bean

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Card Summary Pane


i'm not certain what the card summary pane refers to, i think i do, 
but am unsure... a search doesn't help yet...


but whatever the case i can only move an e'mail address from one 
addressbook, to another by creating a new entry...


same for moving from addressbook to a new list...

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Re: High CPU usage

2011-06-10 Thread David Wilkinson

Michael Gordon wrote:

If you remove the check for e-mail and leave the check in for browser
then when you open SM it will only launch the web browser and you will
have to manually open the mail and newsgroups application.

Another option is to remove all the checks and create icons on your
desktop to launch SM in Mail, and/or Browser.


Michael:

The checkbox I am talking about says:

Only check for new mail after opening mail  newsgroups.

Obviously, there is no analogous checkbox for the browser.

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Re: havung newa trouble

2011-06-10 Thread km

Daniel wrote:

km wrote:

avyone know of i gux free server???

'preciate it;

b


Whats gux mean in plain English??

a typo for 'gud' (good)

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Re: havung newa trouble

2011-06-10 Thread km

WLS wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

km wrote:

avyone know of i gux free server???

'preciate it;

b

Whats gux mean in plain English??


I'm guessing good... free server.
bj


I'm not guessing, since they asked for i gux free server

That said if they are looking for a good free server. Doesn't it
depend on what you are planning to serve?

The best one I know for web sites is the Apache HTTP Server.

http://httpd.apache.org/

... i was using nnto.aieo.org

k

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Re: Message from PayPal: Important! Please update your browser now

2011-06-10 Thread JD

Daniel wrote:

Tony Higgins wrote:

Paul wrote:

Tony Higgins wrote:

I received the message below from PayPal. Here's my version
information:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14

I've used Netscape/Sea Monkey for browsing and email for about a
dozen years and don't wish to change now. I particularly like being
to simultaneously manage 5 email addresses. PayPal's page has no
instructions for Sea Monkey. When I check for updates from the Help
menu no updates are found. What do I do?

Tony


It works great for me. No messages from PP.
SeaMonkey 1.1.19
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24)
Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Firefox/2.0.0.24

So should I revert to Version 1.1.19? Or are there security updates I
can apply to what I have? I just got the message from PayPal today. I
just used it last week to pay for a couple of eBay items.


Tony, if you check Paul's Build Identifier you will notice that his SM
identifies as both SeaMonkey *AND* Firefox.

More and more sites are browser sniffing and displaying their data to
suit the browser, but only a few browsers are accepted, MSIE and Firefox
being two. This problem is so widespread that when SM 2.1 is released,
it will identify itself as both SeaMonkey AND Firefox, just like Paul's
2.0 does now.

Tony, if you want to fix this situation in SM 2.0.14, enter about:config
in a browser address line. You will get a warning screen, if you're
comfortable accept it, then in the Filter line of that screen type
useragent (without the quotes).

Then either alter general.useragent.extra.seamonkey to include the word
Firefox (and a version number if you like), or right click on any pref
and give yourself a NEW string pref,
general.useragent.extra.seamonkey.firefox, set it as a string and give
it a value that includes the word Firefox (without the quotes). Close
the prefs page, restart SeaMonkey, go to the pages that were giving you
troubles and see how you go.

Report back here if necessary.



I don't use PayPal but I'm always interested in problems with the 
UserAget. I use PrefBar which allows me to change the UA on the fly but 
none of mine defeat the PayPal BS:


https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-contentcontent_ID=security/hardware_software_protection

I've got a variety of UA variations:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) 
Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b2 NOT Firefox 4.0b8pre SeaMonkey/2.0.14


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) 
Gecko/20080829 NOT Firefox/2.0.0.12 SeaMonkey/2


Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; 
SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media 
Center PC 6.0; InfoPath.2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; FDM)


None of them pass the PayPal test.

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giganews

2011-06-10 Thread km

facts:

1 i am not the primary user
2 jody crowley is
3 she never uses this account
4 i need newsgroup access, i am deaf
5 can anything be done

k
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Re: giganews

2011-06-10 Thread Keith Whaley

km wrote:

facts:

1 i am not the primary user
2 jody crowley is
3 she never uses this account
4 i need newsgroup access, i am deaf
5 can anything be done

k


Hearing aids?

No, no... really, just kidding.

keith
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Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread Peter Brown

Hi All

I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604 
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2


I've only just become aware of that Password Manager is now a bit more 
of a pain than it used to be. I must admit that I'm not sure when the 
changes occurred though.


It used to be possible to display all stored passwords by clicking the 
Show Passwords button. Now that only works for the currently 
highlighted website.


Is there any way of reverting to the previous behaviour? - or adding a 
Show ALL Passwords button?


I ask because I just needed to check several passwords and had to do the 
Show Passwords and then click Yes in the Confirm dialog for each 
entry I wanted to check.


Regards

Pete
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Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread Rufus

Peter Brown wrote:

Hi All

I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2

I've only just become aware of that Password Manager is now a bit more
of a pain than it used to be. I must admit that I'm not sure when the
changes occurred though.

It used to be possible to display all stored passwords by clicking the
Show Passwords button. Now that only works for the currently
highlighted website.

Is there any way of reverting to the previous behaviour? - or adding a
Show ALL Passwords button?

I ask because I just needed to check several passwords and had to do the
Show Passwords and then click Yes in the Confirm dialog for each
entry I wanted to check.

Regards

Pete


This works for me - if I open the Password manager without selecting 
anything and just choose show Passwords SM will ask for my Master 
Password and then show them *all* at once within the Password Manager 
dialog window.


No add-on required...SM just works.

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Re: Seamonkey Bookmarks empty/not saved after profile relocation

2011-06-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 10/06/2011 05:34, cdrom told the world:
 I have performed a profile relocation from a windows xp machine to a windows 
 7 machine. After the 
 relocation, everything is normal (News, Mail, Add-on installed, passwords 
 saved) is normal except 
 the bookmarks. The bookmarks is empty. I can manually import the bookmarks 
 from the old profile. 
 However, when I closed seamonkey and restarted again. All the bookmarks are 
 gone. I have checked 
 that the bookmarks.html file in the profile is not read only.
 
 My relocation procedure is :
 
 1. At the windows 7 machine, install seamonkey 2.0.14. Test run normal.
 
 2. Close seamonkey. At the user/application data/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles 
 directory, find out the 
 name of profile (e.g. 6x.default).
 
 3. Delete the profile directory.
 
 4. Copy the old profile from the windows xp machine to windows 7 machine in 
 the user/application 
 data/mozilla/semaonkey/profiles directory.
 
 5. Rename the profile as 6x.default.
 
 6. Restart Seamonkey, everything is normal except the bookmarks.
 
 How can I recovered my bookmarks, or is there a save way to relocate profile 
 from windows xp machine 
 to windows 7 machine?

Perhaps there are lingering references to the old profile path.

With Seamonkey fully shut down, open prefs.js in a plaintext editor and
search for the old path name, and replace the references with the new
path name.

Note that not all references will be in the regular Windows format, so
search for the 6x.default string instead.

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Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread Jens Hatlak

Rufus wrote:

I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2
 (...)


This works for me (...)

No add-on required...SM just works.


You missed the fact that you're using a different SM version (one in 
which what you described still works).


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: High CPU usage

2011-06-10 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/06/2011 21:42, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 But why do you think it is mailnews? When you are in a browser window
 how do you know that mailnews is downloading?
 
 Because just when the computer starts responding again, I get the audio 
 and visual alerts that new messages have arrived, and on switching to 
 the mail app, I see new messages in my various folders.
 

I have noticed this too, but in my case it seems to be related to
updating the RSS feeds (I follow quite a lot of them). It's not nearly
as bad as it used to be with NewsFox on Seamonkey 1.x, but it's still a
bit annoying.

Regular mail downloads (either POP and IMAP -- I have both) don't seem
to freeze my machine at all, unless there are BIG attachments -- and in
that case, I might suspect the antivirus...

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Re: can't move addresses..

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

sean bean wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Card Summary Pane


i'm not certain what the card summary pane refers to, i think i do, 
but am unsure... a search doesn't help yet...


but whatever the case i can only move an e'mail address from one 
addressbook, to another by creating a new entry...


same for moving from addressbook to a new list...

sean

card summary pane:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63927451@N02/5819688346/in/photostream

Top Address Book Toolbar menu: View  Show/Hide  Card Summary Pane

Heh! at least I can still move from and Address Book to a new list. The 
Bookmarks folder and page-name edits has just been recovered, so you may 
not have a long wait for this to be restored.

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Erratic Audio After Streaming Video Pause?

2011-06-10 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Context: Seamonkey 2.0.14 in Linux

Our son just reported that if he has a Youtube, or other,
streaming video running - then he pauses it and is away
for a while - when he returns the audio behaves erratically
(he described what sounded like a loop).

Even if he closes and opens a different streaming video
the same audio 'loop' continues to play.

The only solution is to either open Midori or Firefox
and access video from one of them, which seems to bypass
the audio problem, or to reboot.

WDYT?

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SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Kaiser
The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major 
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! 
Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the 
latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware 
acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.


SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.

Most notably, this release features for the first time:

- Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
  across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
- Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
  giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
- An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
  suggestions.
- The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
  passwords and form data.
- Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
  cookies and survive plugin crashes.

For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the 
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also 
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.



Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements


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Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread Rufus

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Rufus wrote:

I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2
(...)


This works for me (...)

No add-on required...SM just works.


You missed the fact that you're using a different SM version (one in
which what you described still works).

Greetings,

Jens



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Wazzat, please?


Rick Merrill wrote: # The new DoNotTrack HTTP header is supported
(configurable in Preferences).



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Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 3:22 PM, Peter Brown wrote:
 Hi All
 
 I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604 
 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2
 
 I've only just become aware of that Password Manager is now a bit more 
 of a pain than it used to be. I must admit that I'm not sure when the 
 changes occurred though.
 
 It used to be possible to display all stored passwords by clicking the 
 Show Passwords button. Now that only works for the currently 
 highlighted website.
 
 Is there any way of reverting to the previous behaviour? - or adding a 
 Show ALL Passwords button?
 
 I ask because I just needed to check several passwords and had to do the 
 Show Passwords and then click Yes in the Confirm dialog for each 
 entry I wanted to check.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete

This is Bug 658075.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658075.

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Re: Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 3:30 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Peter Brown wrote:
 I've only just become aware of that Password Manager is now a bit more
 of a pain than it used to be. I must admit that I'm not sure when the
 changes occurred though.

 It used to be possible to display all stored passwords by clicking the
 Show Passwords button. Now that only works for the currently
 highlighted website.
 
 Just use this add-on:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/de/seamonkey/addon/saved-password-editor/
 
 HTH
 
 Jens
 

For the US English version:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/saved-password-editor/

Question:  Does this work on split logins, where the user ID is entered
on one Web page and the password is entered on the next page?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 4:27 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major 
 release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! 
 Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the 
 latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware 
 acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.
 
 Most notably, this release features for the first time:
 
 - Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
 - Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
 - An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
suggestions.
 - The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
passwords and form data.
 - Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
cookies and survive plugin crashes.
 
 For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the 
 What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also 
 contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
 questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
 screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
 
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10
 
 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements
 
 
 Robert Kaiser
 SeaMonkey Council member

Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
be fixed soon?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread JD

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now!
Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the
latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware
acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.

SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and
Linux.

Most notably, this release features for the first time:

- Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
- Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
- An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
suggestions.
- The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
passwords and form data.
- Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
cookies and survive plugin crashes.

For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements


Robert Kaiser
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Can I install it over my current version, 2.0.14?

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Re: Seamonkey Bookmarks empty/not saved after profile relocation

2011-06-10 Thread cdrom

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 10/06/2011 05:34, cdrom told the world:

I have performed a profile relocation from a windows xp machine to a windows 7 
machine. After the
relocation, everything is normal (News, Mail, Add-on installed, passwords 
saved) is normal except
the bookmarks. The bookmarks is empty. I can manually import the bookmarks from 
the old profile.
However, when I closed seamonkey and restarted again. All the bookmarks are 
gone. I have checked
that the bookmarks.html file in the profile is not read only.

My relocation procedure is :

1. At the windows 7 machine, install seamonkey 2.0.14. Test run normal.

2. Close seamonkey. At the user/application data/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles 
directory, find out the
name of profile (e.g. 6x.default).

3. Delete the profile directory.

4. Copy the old profile from the windows xp machine to windows 7 machine in the 
user/application
data/mozilla/semaonkey/profiles directory.

5. Rename the profile as 6x.default.

6. Restart Seamonkey, everything is normal except the bookmarks.

How can I recovered my bookmarks, or is there a save way to relocate profile 
from windows xp machine
to windows 7 machine?


Perhaps there are lingering references to the old profile path.

With Seamonkey fully shut down, open prefs.js in a plaintext editor and
search for the old path name, and replace the references with the new
path name.

Note that not all references will be in the regular Windows format, so
search for the 6x.default string instead.



Thanks for the advise. I solved the problem by changing a parameter using about:config, with the 
same reasoning that location of the bookmarks file is referenced to the old profile:


1. At the location bar enter about:config

2. In the filter field, enter bookmark

3. Several parameters are displayed. In one of them, the value column displayed the path of the 
bookmarks file in the old windows xp machine. Change the value of that parameter to reset.


4. Close Seamonkey.

5. Start Seamonkey, all bookmarks re-appeared and functionally normally. However, that particular 
parameter seems to disappear. In searching about:config, no parameter returns with the path of the 
bookmark file.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 6/10/2011 8:56 PM, JD wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now!
Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the
latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware
acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.

SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and
Linux.

Most notably, this release features for the first time:

- Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
- Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
- An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
suggestions.
- The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
passwords and form data.
- Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
cookies and survive plugin crashes.

For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements


Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member


Can I install it over my current version, 2.0.14?



Yes. (Just note the mention in Release Notes about downgrading BACK to 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
be fixed soon?


The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need 
to worry about that.


If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been 
fixed, will not be for 2.1.


We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark 
extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff 
into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the 
profile anyway.


Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these 
extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the 
extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile, 
since they install to profile on first launch.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 4:27 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major 
 release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! 
 Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the 
 latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware 
 acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.
 
 Most notably, this release features for the first time:
 
 - Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
 - Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
 - An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
suggestions.
 - The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
passwords and form data.
 - Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
cookies and survive plugin crashes.
 
 For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the 
 What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also 
 contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked 
 questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and 
 screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
 
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10
 
 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements
 
 
 Robert Kaiser
 SeaMonkey Council member

In Windows XP, I requested the properties for the SeaMonkey 2.1
executable seamonkey.exe.  On the Version tab of the Properties window,
I see 3 different version numbers:

*  At the top of the tab, File version: 2.0.1.4176

*  Under Other version information, File version: 2.0.1

*  Under Other version information, Product version: 2.1

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
 be fixed soon?
 
 The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need 
 to worry about that.
 
 If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been 
 fixed, will not be for 2.1.
 
 We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark 
 extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff 
 into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the 
 profile anyway.
 
 Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these 
 extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the 
 extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile, 
 since they install to profile on first launch.
 

No.  I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file.  See the bug
report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677 and read
the comments, especiall starting at #13.

While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has
been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to
SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file.  I had expected a new SeaMonkey
bug report on this, but none has appeared yet.

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Default Theme

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
Is there a default theme compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1.  The Add-ons
Manager reports that SeaMonkey Daefault Theme 1.0 is not compatible with
SeaMonkey 2.1.

I thought this was supposed to be fixed with the final release of 2.1.

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Re: 2.1Pre

2011-06-10 Thread Jane-Galt
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid  wrote :

 On 6/9/11 8:41 PM, Jane-Galt wrote:
 What happened to being able to right click on the space to the right of
 the tabs and get a new tab? 
 
 Seems like I can only get a new tab by right clicking a tab itself.
 
 Or did I miss a setting?
 
 
 When you have a tab bar, there is an icon at the far LEFT.  You
 left-click on it to open a new tab.
 
 I have my preferences set to hide the tab bar if only one tab is open.
 But I have a button on my PrefBar tool bar to open a new tab.
 



Used to be that you could right click anywhere on the white bar area and open 
a new one.

Oh well, minor.

I really like this browser though!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Sledge Hammer
Robert Kaiser wrote:
 The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major release
 of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on
 the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the latest developments in
 web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript
 speed.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.
 
 Most notably, this release features for the first time:
 
 - Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
   across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
 - Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
   giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
 - An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
   suggestions.
 - The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
   passwords and form data.
 - Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
   cookies and survive plugin crashes.
 
 For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the What's New
 in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of
 known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general
 overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit
 www.seamonkey-project.org.
 
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10
 
 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements
 
 
 Robert Kaiser
 SeaMonkey Council member


Nice work!

All we need now is a few non-sucky themes and updated add-ons. But overall
quite nice. Congratulations to the team and thanks for all the hard work.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
be fixed soon?


The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need
to worry about that.

If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been
fixed, will not be for 2.1.

We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark
extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff
into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the
profile anyway.

Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these
extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the
extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile,
since they install to profile on first launch.



No.  I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file.  See the bug
report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677  and read
the comments, especiall starting at #13.

While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has
been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to
SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file.  I had expected a new SeaMonkey
bug report on this, but none has appeared yet.



Re-Read my answer.

The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you 
don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of 
SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar 
when the partial fails).


If you did install all optional files, then the partial works.

I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/10/11 4:27 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major
release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now!
Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the
latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware
acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.

SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.

Most notably, this release features for the first time:

- Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs
across different devices (computers) in a secure way.
- Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes,
giving you a more personalized browsing experience.
- An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and
suggestions.
- The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies,
passwords and form data.
- Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash
cookies and survive plugin crashes.

For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements


Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member


In Windows XP, I requested the properties for the SeaMonkey 2.1
executable seamonkey.exe.  On the Version tab of the Properties window,
I see 3 different version numbers:

*  At the top of the tab, File version: 2.0.1.4176

*  Under Other version information, File version: 2.0.1



I believe this relates to the Gecko installation that we built with, but 
I'm not 100% certain there.



*  Under Other version information, Product version: 2.1



This would be our version
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 6/10/11 10:14 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
 be fixed soon?

 The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need
 to worry about that.

 If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been
 fixed, will not be for 2.1.

 We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark
 extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff
 into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the
 profile anyway.

 Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these
 extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the
 extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile,
 since they install to profile on first launch.


 No.  I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file.  See the bug
 report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677  and read
 the comments, especiall starting at #13.

 While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has
 been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to
 SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file.  I had expected a new SeaMonkey
 bug report on this, but none has appeared yet.

 
 Re-Read my answer.
 
 The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you 
 don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of 
 SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar 
 when the partial fails).
 
 If you did install all optional files, then the partial works.
 
 I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here.
 

What are the optional extensions?  I might already have some.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/10/11 10:14 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed?  If not, will it
be fixed soon?


The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need
to worry about that.

If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been
fixed, will not be for 2.1.

We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark
extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff
into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the
profile anyway.

Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these
extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the
extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile,
since they install to profile on first launch.



No.  I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file.  See the bug
report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677   and read
the comments, especiall starting at #13.

While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has
been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to
SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file.  I had expected a new SeaMonkey
bug report on this, but none has appeared yet.



Re-Read my answer.

The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you
don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of
SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar
when the partial fails).

If you did install all optional files, then the partial works.

I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here.



What are the optional extensions?  I might already have some.



In the installer, there is the custom install method.

It lets you chose whether or not to install
* Venkman (JS Debugger)
* Chatzilla
* DOMi (Inspector)
* DebugQA [pre/alpha/beta builds only]

If those extensions are missing from the *app* dir, the partial you are 
trying to install will fail. But on 2.1 at least, they are installed 
into the profile *from* the app folder, so you may already have them in 
your profile, but that won't affect the success/failure of the partial 
update.


As I said, the complete update will succeed.

~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Re: Default Theme

2011-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 6/11/2011 12:17 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Is there a default theme compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1.  The Add-ons
Manager reports that SeaMonkey Daefault Theme 1.0 is not compatible with
SeaMonkey 2.1.

I thought this was supposed to be fixed with the final release of 2.1.



If you installed 2.1-final from 2.1rc1 this might be expected. 
(basically the addon manager only checks the data we updated when the 
app version changes).


I would suggest running an older 2.1 build briefly (unless someone can 
remind me what pref controls that)


Suggested: 2.1b3

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