Re: Aw: Re: Password Manager workaround
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:28:59 -0700, /David E. Ross/: On the other hand, I installed Remember Passwords 1.0.1 and tested it. With it disabled, some passwords were blocked and not saved. With it enabled, I have not yet encountered a failure to save passwords. It works even for split logins. The problem with split logins left is it doesn't automatically enable autocomplete and remembering of the username field, because there's no password field on the form to reliably detect this is an username field, therefore associate it with login details. It would be unwise to unconditionally enable autocomplete everywhere at least for stuff like CVV (Card Verification Value). In such cases one could manually opt-in to remember the username field value by means of remember password bookmarklet, or similar solution removing autocomplete=off from all forms/form fields. It would still require two manual actions, next - removing autocomplete=off again to enable to autocomplete of the username filed, then click in the field to insert the remembered value. While the Remember Passwords extension seems enough for traditional cases like username/password fields in one form, and for the lone password field on split logins, I wonder whether extensions like Secure Login [1] or QuickPasswords [2] don't provide more complete solution (haven't tried them myself yet) including handling of the lone username on split logins and dynamically generated forms - does anyone have experience with these? [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/secure-login/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quickpasswords/ -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Aw: Re: Password Manager workaround
Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:33:31 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: While the Remember Passwords extension seems enough for traditional cases like username/password fields in one form, and for the lone password field on split logins, I wonder whether extensions like Secure Login [1] or QuickPasswords [2] don't provide more complete solution (haven't tried them myself yet) including handling of the lone username on split logins and dynamically generated forms - does anyone have experience with these? [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/secure-login/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quickpasswords/ I've found another one which looks interesting: Saved Password Editor https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/ readily packaged as SeaMonkey compatible. ... this thread has become quite big. I guess I'll need to compile some document (at least for myself) describing the different use cases, the current problems, relevant Bugzilla references, possible solutions and workarounds (including extensions). -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HELP - Composer - not working!
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:04:41 -0700, /Michael Gordon/: If you want a WYSIWYG HTML editor try Komposer, it was based on the old Netscape composer. Along with creating W3C compliant documents it also supports CSS. http://kompozer.net/screenshots.php There's also BlueGriffon from the original Composer author - Daniel Glazman (glazou): http://bluegriffon.org/ -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Aw: Re: Password Manager workaround
On 30/07/2011 16:44, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:33:31 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: While the Remember Passwords extension seems enough for traditional cases like username/password fields in one form, and for the lone password field on split logins, I wonder whether extensions like Secure Login [1] or QuickPasswords [2] don't provide more complete solution (haven't tried them myself yet) including handling of the lone username on split logins and dynamically generated forms - does anyone have experience with these? [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/secure-login/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quickpasswords/ I've found another one which looks interesting: Saved Password Editor https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/saved-password-editor/ readily packaged as SeaMonkey compatible. ... this thread has become quite big. I guess I'll need to compile some document (at least for myself) describing the different use cases, the current problems, relevant Bugzilla references, possible solutions and workarounds (including extensions). You could put it in the wiki: https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/ Perhaps as: https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/PasswordManagementTips Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Show remote content
Is there a way to make SM show remote content from a domain automatically without have to always click on show remote content button? I get update from xyz.com and always want to see the remote content. Perhaps an about:config option I could add. Thank you for your help in this matter, Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HELP - Composer - not working!
ADKART wrote: I rarely use the SeaMonkey browser, but I learned how to build web pages with Netscape Composer and when SeaMonkey became the replacement for Netscape, I switched to it. Have used it for quite a while, doing pretty complex things with Composer. But now I cannot edit the pages I previously created. HELP! I can open my files, but I cannot edit them. I manage 5 web sites and I can't do anything with Composer 2.2. Should I go back to an earlier version? I also maintain numerous small sites using the SM composer, and haven't had that problem. Therefore, how about something a little more specific about you mean by can't do anything such as does composer not start? When you type in composer do the keystrokes not echo? When you save does it not happen? What platform are you using for the edit, Mac? I have just edited the web site for an organization using the composer, so can't do anything is not a universal issue. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3 Changelog
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/28/11 9:43 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross schrieb: That is sometimes called lemming behavior, which might be appropriate in this case. After all, the legend is that lemmings follow each other off a cliff, into the ocean, and to their deaths. You mean Firefox will die just as Chrome has and SeaMonkey has before? Robert Kaiser From my long experience (30+ years) in software QA, the long-term cost of frequently churning out versions with new features and not merely bug-fixes will eventually either weaken necessary QA through shortcuts to meet schedules or else consume developer resources to the point of weakening the organization. It appears that frequent releases might already be driving away users who otherwise not only have to update the product but also find that needed extensions no longer work. Extensions constitute one of the major features of Mozilla-based applications. Today, the problem with extensions results from the fact that, like SeaMonkey itself, most extensions are developed as hobbies by volunteers who are not paid. With frequent new versions of Mozilla-based applications, extension developers find themselves in the same situation as the Red Queen in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass, running as fast as they can just to stand still and having to run faster than they can to make progress -- while still having to earn a living. +1 I'm a fan of feature release followed by n (n=1) bug fix releases, so you get a usable version fairly often, like stability releases for the Linux kernel, that kind of thing. In other words, having versions the (majority of) users find better than the last stable version. Having people generally feel that your QA has vanished is particularly bad when doing volunteer work, since the only reward you get is people thinking you have produced something great. The fact that 2.2, with broken address book, was not considered a brown bag release and quickly followed by 2.2.1 indicates that quantity is more important than quality. If you never add names to your address book, 2.2 is fine. If you get 5-10 new addresses a day in Collected addresses and have to type them into the production AB by hand because you can't move them with drag and drop, it's worth the pain to fall back to an earlier (working) version, and disable automatic updates. I know SM uses some shared TBird code, the one person I know who uses TBird tells me address book is still broken in the nightly she tried. Sigh. I'm grateful for the work people do, but I think the whole Mozilla effort has lost its way. It feels as if Firefox is the only thing which still gets QA resources and fixes in a timely manner. And IIRC the fixes in SM address book were rejected for TBird, so it would have to be maintained in SM long term. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3 Changelog: “TODO”
get-funky.dig wrote: I'm afraid... seeing this concerns me. Please don't let Seamonkey become Firefox's “red-headed-stepchild”. Please let us not suffer the nonsensical patterns of late from that cr*p-factory (i.e. paraphrased, following more the Update Schedule, and borrowed nomenclature; updates scheme of Google Chrome) for the In-Kids' Club. The reason Chrome can run that way is that Google has resources to provide fixes in parallel with features. Mozilla seems to have decided to go to a mostly new features resource allocation (I say seems, based on what's released). SM lacks the resources to do that, when new features take 100% of the resources there's little effort put into bug fixes. The project is allowed to exist but treated like a charity, from what I see. Note that I am not inside, I just read the endless posts from SM people saying we don't have the resources to do that. Which is why users can't code stuff themselves and get it into the SM releases, accepting a feature would mean maintaining it forever. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW
WLS wrote: Abhishek Chakraborty wrote: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW Translation. When I type the div element into the normal pane of Composer (with content I suspect) it doesn't show up in the Preview pane. Could you give just a small example of that? I know how to do div in source pane, how do you do it in normal? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW
Bill Davidsen wrote: WLS wrote: Abhishek Chakraborty wrote: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW Translation. When I type the div element into the normal pane of Composer (with content I suspect) it doesn't show up in the Preview pane. Could you give just a small example of that? I know how to do div in source pane, how do you do it in normal? The same way you do it in the source pane I would suspect. But that was my interpretation of the original complaint, and it could be wrong. What exactly does he mean? I have no clue, and they seem to have decided not to continue the dialog, explaining the statement. -- Using SeaMonkey 2.4a2 on openSUSE 11.3 Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Paste as quotation, text disappears
Zanqeutil wrote: Saemonkey 2.2 Windows 2000 (SP4) When I compose an email and want to paste a part of another email as quoted text,I use 'Paste as quotation' from the right-click menu. I see the quoted text, the cursor is at the end of the last pasted character. When I *press enter* to type the rest of the email, the quoted text instantly disappears. Sometimes I can move the cursor with the arrrow-down key to a position below the last quoted sentence and I'm able to type the rest of the massage. Paste (normal) works correct as does Paste Without Formatting, no problem. Is this a bug ? regards, Zanqeutil. Zanqeutil, when you paste the text into the e-mail, is it still highlighted, so the when you press Enter the still highlighted text is replaced by a carriage return?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3 Changelog
Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm a fan of feature release followed by n (n=1) bug fix releases, so you get a usable version fairly often, like stability releases for the Linux kernel, that kind of thing. Me too, but as I explained in some other post, we don't have much of a choice anymore for the most part. As far as the address book breakage is concerned: We could have done a minor version update for that if we had found the issue earlier (the breakage on the development branch, trunk, was known and much larger, but the release branch dd issue was unknown) *and* had a reviewed (!) fix in hand. The fix that I'm talking about has only been finished about a week ago, in time for SM 2.3, which is not too far off anymore (currently in beta), so releasing a 2.2.1 at this point doesn't make much sense. The fact that 2.2, with broken address book, was not considered a brown bag release and quickly followed by 2.2.1 indicates that quantity is more important than quality. 2.2 was rushed, so much is true. I know SM uses some shared TBird code, the one person I know who uses TBird tells me address book is still broken in the nightly she tried. Sigh. I don't think that's true. The TB developers made a change that broke us (because we were missing a part on our side), not the other way around. I'm grateful for the work people do, but I think the whole Mozilla effort has lost its way. It feels as if Firefox is the only thing which still gets QA resources and fixes in a timely manner. 90% true. The other 10% is for TB. [Note: IMO] And IIRC the fixes in SM address book were rejected for TBird, so it would have to be maintained in SM long term. Again, I think you got something wrong there. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HELP - Composer - not working!
ADKART wrote: I rarely use the SeaMonkey browser, but I learned how to build web pages with Netscape Composer and when SeaMonkey became the replacement for Netscape, I switched to it. Have used it for quite a while, doing pretty complex things with Composer. But now I cannot edit the pages I previously created. HELP! I can open my files, but I cannot edit them. I manage 5 web sites and I can't do anything with Composer 2.2. Should I go back to an earlier version? I think I know what your problem is but don't have a perfect solution. Seems like a bug in Seamonkey 2.2. When I open web pages saved on my hard drive with Composer and right click on links, Link Properties is grayed out. Composer is in Normal mode. If I then go to HTML Tags mode via the menubar at the bottom of the page, right clicking on links gives an active Link Properties. Going back to Normal mode seems to retain the ability to get to Link Properties with a right click. Clearly there is a problem with Seamonkey. Also switching back and forth between Normal and Tags does not always make Link Properties available in Normal mode. There may be other functions that don't work quite right in Composer. Testing was done on a WinXP SP3 system. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Moving contacts between address books
With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue? Thank you, Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving contacts between address books
Alex wrote: With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue? Will be fixed in SM 2.3. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving contacts between address books
Jens Hatlak wrote: Alex wrote: With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue? Will be fixed in SM 2.3. HTH Jens Thank you. Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3 Changelog: “TODO”
On 11-07-30 9:26 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: get-funky.dig wrote: I'm afraid... seeing this concerns me. Please don't let Seamonkey become Firefox's “red-headed-stepchild”. Please let us not suffer the nonsensical patterns of late from that cr*p-factory (i.e. paraphrased, following more the Update Schedule, and borrowed nomenclature; updates scheme of Google Chrome) for the In-Kids' Club. The reason Chrome can run that way is that Google has resources to provide fixes in parallel with features. Mozilla seems to have decided to go to a mostly new features resource allocation (I say seems, based on what's released). SM lacks the resources to do that, when new features take 100% of the resources there's little effort put into bug fixes. The project is allowed to exist but treated like a charity, from what I see. Note that I am not inside, I just read the endless posts from SM people saying we don't have the resources to do that. Which is why users can't code stuff themselves and get it into the SM releases, accepting a feature would mean maintaining it forever. The changelog for the latest release can be found at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/changes. There are plenty of bug fixes. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW
WLS wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: WLS wrote: Abhishek Chakraborty wrote: DIV ELEMENT NOT SHOWING IN SEAMONKEY PREVIEW WHEN I TYPE DIV GO TO PREVIEW Translation. When I type the div element into the normal pane of Composer (with content I suspect) it doesn't show up in the Preview pane. Could you give just a small example of that? I know how to do div in source pane, how do you do it in normal? The same way you do it in the source pane I would suspect. But that was my interpretation of the original complaint, and it could be wrong. What exactly does he mean? I have no clue, and they seem to have decided not to continue the dialog, explaining the statement. Normally the div element is set to default to show no borders, this is controllable using CSS and the borders attribute. Using CSS you can set the border size, type, and color; and if you get creative you can control each border side independently of the others. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager workaround
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:32:23 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: With a bit of delay, I've uploaded initial version on the AMO site: https://addons.mozilla.org/bg/firefox/addon/remember-passwords/ Blah. The more friendly URL should be: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/remember-passwords/ Thanks Stanimir! Works for me. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.
Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit : Dale DePriest schrieb: I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish. You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again. Robert Kaiser In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the same directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt. So import will not work. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.
MCBastos a exposé le 27/07/2011 : Interviewed by CNN on 27/07/2011 12:42, Bernard Mercier told the world: Even before updating, I didn't have a bookmarks.html file. As far as I remember some comment, it is not used anymore and all is in one place, places.sqlite. Thus such a file can maybe grow considerably. Not quite correct. SM 2.0.x still uses the bookmarks.html. One of the big changes in 2.1 was precisely moving bookmars into places.sqlite -- which enabled a number of new features, such as Sync and the new click-on-the-address-bar-icon method of bookmarking, similar to Firefox's star. Still, for a variety of reasons, Seamonkey keeps the ability of exporting the bookmarks to an html file automatically on shutdown. I don't recall right now if this option is enabled by default. Then I don't understand why I don't have a bookmarks.html file. -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Norton antivirus and SeaMonkey
On 7/27/2011 12:19 PM PT, Cathy Palmer-Lister typed: Hi, I moved to a new computer,and from XP to Win 7. I cannot get SM to work with Norton antvirus though they got along just fine in old computer. I've tried installing SM before the antivirus and vice versa but same result--some sites do not load at all, some give weird error messages. Sometimes the FB like button wants to downlaod as a programme or something. Facebook is the worst, but even google does not always load in properly. What version of Norton AntiVirus do you have? And do you have all LiveUpdates downloaded and installed? -- We have to break with what must be broken with once and for all... and we have to take the suffering upon ourselves... Freedom and power--power above all. Power over all the tumbling vermin and over all the ant-hill! --Fedor Dostoevsky /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show remote content
On 07/30/2011 04:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote: Is there a way to make SM show remote content from a domain automatically without have to always click on show remote content button? I get update from xyz.com and always want to see the remote content. Perhaps an about:config option I could add. I've not tried it, but I suspect that these Thunderbird instructions may also apply to SeaMonkey: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Privacy_basics_%28Thunderbird%29 Give those a try let us know if it works in SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HELP - Composer - not working!
Robert Gault wrote: ADKART wrote: I rarely use the SeaMonkey browser, but I learned how to build web pages with Netscape Composer and when SeaMonkey became the replacement for Netscape, I switched to it. Have used it for quite a while, doing pretty complex things with Composer. But now I cannot edit the pages I previously created. HELP! I can open my files, but I cannot edit them. I manage 5 web sites and I can't do anything with Composer 2.2. Should I go back to an earlier version? I think I know what your problem is but don't have a perfect solution. Seems like a bug in Seamonkey 2.2. When I open web pages saved on my hard drive with Composer and right click on links, Link Properties is grayed out. Composer is in Normal mode. If I then go to HTML Tags mode via the menubar at the bottom of the page, right clicking on links gives an active Link Properties. Going back to Normal mode seems to retain the ability to get to Link Properties with a right click. Clearly there is a problem with Seamonkey. Also switching back and forth between Normal and Tags does not always make Link Properties available in Normal mode. There may be other functions that don't work quite right in Composer. Testing was done on a WinXP SP3 system. I had had the same link properties problem with Composer on Linux (Linux Mint 10 / Ubuntu 11.04) - I wasn't clever / persistent enough to find the workaround as you did, however, and just switched to using BlueGriffon. -RL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show remote content
Danny Kile wrote: Is there a way to make SM show remote content from a domain automatically without have to always click on show remote content button? I get update from xyz.com and always want to see the remote content. Perhaps an about:config option I could add. When you're looking at an email whose remote content you wish you could see, right-click on the e-mail address, click add to address book, check the allow remote content box, then click OK. Next time you get an email from that address, the remote content will appear. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Paste as quotation, text disappears
Daniel schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: Saemonkey 2.2 Windows 2000 (SP4) When I compose an email and want to paste a part of another email as quoted text,I use 'Paste as quotation' from the right-click menu. I see the quoted text, the cursor is at the end of the last pasted character. When I *press enter* to type the rest of the email, the quoted text instantly disappears. Sometimes I can move the cursor with the arrrow-down key to a position below the last quoted sentence and I'm able to type the rest of the massage. Paste (normal) works correct as does Paste Without Formatting, no problem. Is this a bug ? regards, Zanqeutil. Zanqeutil, when you paste the text into the e-mail, is it still highlighted, so the when you press Enter the still highlighted text is replaced by a carriage return?? No, the text is not highlighted when I press 'enter'(carriage return) For example: When you highlight a sentence in MS Word and press enter (carriage return) the highligted text will be deleted. That's how it works in MS Word. SM 2.2 Sometimes when I try a (normal) paste and after that a second 'paste as quotation' I'm able to move the blinking cursor below the pasted text with the arrow-down key. The pasted text (with quotation marks) stays put and I can type new sentences. I did not have this problem in Seamonkey 2.1, I noticed this after the update to SM 2.2. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Spoofing Old Mail
Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for me. One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. So, I'm switching my browser work to FireFox - hate to leave good old SM - and I now need to re-establish all my passwords. I'm also a little concerned about all the talk about fancy FF add-ins - I doubt I want any but I dislike being bothered by someone interrupting me to tout some new capability. I'll keep using SM for the mail and address book - the best arrangement I've seen (supposedly equaled only by the old Eudora). One remaining problem in SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more accounts. Or am I missing some setting or option? -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing Old Mail
On 07/30/2011 04:23 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote: Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for me. One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. ... Doesn't help much if you don't provide a link to the site. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing Old Mail
JohnW-Mpls wrote: Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for me. One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. Why don't you try the User Agent Switcher and spoof with a full Firefox UA string? One remaining problem in SM Mail is the inability to automatically delete old messages in more than just my first account - I'd like the same service in at least six more accounts. Or am I missing some setting or option? Do you mean something like delete after 30 days? Right-click on the account name in the left pane, choose Properties, and change each of those six accounts to what you prefer. Also, you can do this for specific folders, such as Inbox, Junk (mine is 3 days), or any other. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.3 Changelog
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 07:19:39 AM Jens Hatlak wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm a fan of feature release followed by n (n=1) bug fix releases, so you get a usable version fairly often, like stability releases for the Linux kernel, that kind of thing. Me too, but as I explained in some other post, we don't have much of a choice anymore for the most part. As far as the address book breakage is concerned: We could have done a minor version update for that if we had found the issue earlier (the breakage on the development branch, trunk, was known and much larger, but the release branch dd issue was unknown) *and* had a reviewed (!) fix in hand. The fix that I'm talking about has only been finished about a week ago, in time for SM 2.3, which is not too far off anymore (currently in beta), so releasing a 2.2.1 at this point doesn't make much sense. The fact that 2.2, with broken address book, was not considered a brown bag release and quickly followed by 2.2.1 indicates that quantity is more important than quality. 2.2 was rushed, so much is true. I know SM uses some shared TBird code, the one person I know who uses TBird tells me address book is still broken in the nightly she tried. Sigh. I don't think that's true. The TB developers made a change that broke us (because we were missing a part on our side), not the other way around. I'm grateful for the work people do, but I think the whole Mozilla effort has lost its way. It feels as if Firefox is the only thing which still gets QA resources and fixes in a timely manner. 90% true. The other 10% is for TB. [Note: IMO] And IIRC the fixes in SM address book were rejected for TBird, so it would have to be maintained in SM long term. Again, I think you got something wrong there. Greetings, Jens Did they fix the export problems with addressbook? When I export a distrution list it exports the whole addressbook instead. It also drops some of the contacts and a blank field appears to to filled with the next field in order. -- Russ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving contacts between address books
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote: Alex wrote: With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue? Will be fixed in SM 2.3. HTH Jens It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1) -- Russ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
IE users are dumber .
Ie users are suppose to be Dumb http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/30/internet-explorer-users-are-dumber-study-shows/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE users are dumber .
question wrote: Ie users are suppose to be Dumb http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/30/internet-explorer-users-are-dumber-study-shows/ ...Opera?..really?.. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IE users are dumber .
question wrote: Ie users are suppose to be Dumb http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/07/30/internet-explorer-users-are-dumber-study-shows/ May I be allowed to say it is dumb to post this in a support newsgroup? The OP must be an IE user. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing Old Mail
On 7/30/11 4:23 PM, JohnW-Mpls wrote [in part]: Phooey, SM's 2.2 is no better at being fully accepted at some sites - 2.2's new option to advertise FireFox compatibility does not help, at least for me. One of my major sites is adding stuff SM just does not see and I cannot afford to miss those things. There are some Web sites that not only sniff badly but also reject Firefox in the user agent (UA) string if SeaMonkey is also present. The bank I use has such a site. I disabled (unchecked the checkbox) for Advertise Firefox compatibility. For my bank's Web site, I use PrefBar to spoof Firefox without any mention of SeaMonkey. The Web sites for three other financial institutions where I have accounts accept SeaMonkey and don't require any spoofing at all. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey