Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that 
vanished in the unintended upgrade from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see 
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a 
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a 
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.


Thanks.

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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that
vanished in the unintended upgrade from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.


Your passwords should have been in your profile as signons.sqlite, also
necessary is: key3.db

I don't see how they could have been entirely lost, (First I have heard
of this issue, fwiw) what is your *symptoms* of this loss?

Do you have any addons that you manually enabled?


Actually, it turns out they weren't /lost/ per se. When I visit sites 
that require logins, SM seems to remember them. But when I open the Data 
Manager, either directly or through the Password Manager menu item, I 
can't see any passwords -- it lists no sites and no passwords, so I 
can't manage them in any useful sense, and the old button Show stored 
passwords is gone. I have plenty of Permissions, but these seem to be 
related to cookie settings and not to logins.


And I've searched through every menu and every pref and can't find 
anything about importing anything, so if I ever wanted to import 
passwords from another profile or something, I couldn't. Or have you 
hidden it too well for me?


I do have the files signons.sqlite, 51 KB, and key3.db, 16 KB, FWIW.

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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Actually, it turns out they weren't /lost/ per se. When I visit sites that 
 require logins, SM seems to remember them. But when I open the Data Manager, 
 either directly or through the Password Manager menu item, I can't see any 
 passwords -- it lists no sites and no passwords, so I can't manage them in 
 any useful sense, and the old button Show stored passwords is gone. I have 
 plenty of Permissions, but these seem to be related to cookie settings and 
 not to logins.

Seamonkey 2.2 under Win/XP PRO;SP3 --

I see them, via about:data / passwords only / show passwords.
Philip Taylor
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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Robert Kaiser

MCBastos schrieb:

Then, the third thing: Webkit is a smaller, more focused project than
Gecko.


Nowadays, even that is a myth. While Webkit doesn't understand all the 
same standards as full as Gecko does, it grew its own networking library 
etc. over time because they learned the same lessons Mozilla learned 
years ago. And it even uses more memory than Gecko nowadays. The 
cleanness and leanness of Webkit are nothing more than a myth nowadays.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: How can i see the buttons Etape précédente and Etape suivante in a tutorial site

2011-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the google bar; 
it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look 
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this 
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the 
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot 
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the 
google-bar is not showed anymore.

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Re: html5 demo

2011-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 06:11, Stéphane Grégoire told the world:

Hi,

Do you see something?

http://robhawkes.github.com/webgl-html5-audio-visualiser/


I only see a black screen with Seamonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5!


I'm on Linux xUbuntu 11.04




Let me sum up the requirements to see the demo graphics:

1. Browser support for WebGL. As far as I know, the only engine
currently having the needed capabilities is Gecko version 5 and higher.
This means Firefox 5 or newer, or Seamonkey 2.2 or newer.


I have SM 2.1 and it works ... so what ?
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Re: How can i see the buttons Etape précédente and Etape suivante in a tutorial site

2011-08-11 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the
google bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the
google-bar is not showed anymore.


Perhaps google stored a cookie on your machine?

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Re: How can i see the buttons Etape précédente and Etape suivante in a tutorial site

2011-08-11 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Ray_Net wrote:

 This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look 
 always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this 
 google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the 
 invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot of 
 the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the 
 google-bar is not showed anymore.

I'm sorry, I cannot agree, Ray.  Even if a page contains 100% valid
HTML and 100% valid CSS, there is no cast-iron guarantee that it
will render as expected (or repeatably) in any real-world browser,
simply because of the possibility of as-yet-undiscovered bugs in
the latter.  As soon as you also factor in invalid HTML and invalid
CSS, the probability of successful rendering drops to near-zero,
and the probability that it will render the same on two consecutive
iterations also falls significantly below unity, which may well
explain what is happening at the moment.

Complain loudly and bitterly to Google.  They claim to be
in favour of web standards, and are amongst those responsible
for the [offensive phrase deleted] known as HTML 5.  In reality,
even the most basic check :

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.co.uk/

reveals 37 putative errors and 2 putative warnings, which is
a pretty sad indictment of an organisation that started so
well and on which many of us depend.

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Unread message virtual folder

2011-08-11 Thread Alberto S.
Hello,
I wonder if there is a way to set up a virtual folder containing only unread 
messages for all my email accounts. 

This is a default feature in Opera Mail and, since it's so powerful, I am 
surprised that it's not available in SeaMonkey.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

Kind Regards
Alberto S.
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Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world:


...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team
because
someone posed a question - and not even that particular product,
it's an
*example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*?


...are you suggesting that the already-too-small developing team we DO
have in Seamonkey take time out of the project to develop an *entirely
new product*?


It's $ :-) and $$$ can buy people ...

I wish I could write that you're so busy fighting the alligators
snapping on your tails that you don't have time to drain the swamp.
But then y'all seem to be charging forth (the image of the elephant
herd) reworking FF+TB into SM , and maybe spending a little time with
the broom and pooper scooper brigade.


Rather than being locked into Firefox running itself into the ground and
following suit. I suggest the developers at SeaMonkey say goodbye to
Mozilla and switch to web-kit engine. Then you can work at a slower pace
and fix bugs and provide something users want. rather than what Mozilla
demands you do.



Not going to happen, sorry.

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by 
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ...  ...

pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?

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Re: sync

2011-08-11 Thread Rick Merrill

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

can two computers 'sync' , and is one a 'master'?



Yes sync is compatible for multiple computers/devices, even the same computer 
if you
run multiple profiles, or Multiple browsers that support Sync (like SeaMonkey 
and
Firefox).

As far as 'is one a master' assuming I understand your question right, neither
computer/profile is a master by the traditional sense of the word. You can make
changes in both profiles, and Sync will combine those changes.


Thanks!  I think you correctly deduced what I was trying to ask.

It sounds like sync is also perfect for migrating from, say, XP on one computer to 
Win7 on another, yes?



The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla,


I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point.


but there is the possibility to
install/run/activate your own server if you like. And the design is secure 
enough
that not even the people who run your server have the ability to view your 
data. The
encryption key(s) are stored locally on your computer(s). (or on a printout if 
you
choose).


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Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Chris Ilias

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?


I removed it. See 
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.


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Re: sync

2011-08-11 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/11/2011 1:32 PM, Rick Merrill wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

can two computers 'sync' , and is one a 'master'?



Yes sync is compatible for multiple computers/devices, even the same
computer if you
run multiple profiles, or Multiple browsers that support Sync (like
SeaMonkey and
Firefox).

As far as 'is one a master' assuming I understand your question right,
neither
computer/profile is a master by the traditional sense of the word. You
can make
changes in both profiles, and Sync will combine those changes.


Thanks! I think you correctly deduced what I was trying to ask.

It sounds like sync is also perfect for migrating from, say, XP on one
computer to Win7 on another, yes?


It made *my* transition for XP to Win7 much easier (it does not yet 
migrate newsgroup/mail settings, but still was remarkably helpful)



The default 'master' is a Server hosted by Mozilla,


I assume it acts as intermediary and not as a storage point.



No, it *does* store data, so you don't need, say your WinXP machine up 
and running when you sync to your win7 machine. That said, no-one but 
you can retrieve/deduce the data from your sync account.


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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread sean nathan bean

Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that
vanished in the unintended upgrade from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.

Thanks.



from the browser  edit  preferences  privacy  security  passwords  
manage stored passwords


still brings up everything i've stored... and i can show passwords...

sounds like you may have an interfering addon...

sean


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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Robert Kaiser

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

I see them, via about:data / passwords only / show passwords.


Exactly what I'm doing, but the pane remains blank (structure, no
content). Strangely enough, no matter what I choose from that pull-down
menu, the heading at right remains the same: This domain has stored the
following cookies on your computer: There's no way to select the
Passwords tab even if I pull down Passwords only.


Then there's an entry in there that this version of Data Manager has a 
problem with. This is fixed in SeaMonkey 2.3 and you should get all 
entries there.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Keith Whaley

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:

PhillipJones wrote:


[...]

I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he 
didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list. 
Somewhat complicated at times, but hardly as earthshakingly important as 
suggested.


keith whaley

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Re: How can i see the buttons Etape précédente and Etape suivante in a tutorial site

2011-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the
google bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the
google-bar is not showed anymore.


Perhaps google stored a cookie on your machine?


I agree ... so the best way is removing this stupid cookie ;-)
I have tested in SM removing all cookies from touraineverte, 
translate.googleapis.com, and all googles without success
Just to notice that IE9 rendering always the same evenwhile after 
closing this Goggle-bar.

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Re: How can i see the buttons Etape précédente and Etape suivante in a tutorial site

2011-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look always 
the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this google-bar did 
not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the invisible buttons to the 
webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot of the problem, because de 
invisible buttons is perfect now, because the google-bar is not showed anymore.


I'm sorry, I cannot agree, Ray.  Even if a page contains 100% valid
HTML and 100% valid CSS, there is no cast-iron guarantee that it
will render as expected (or repeatably) in any real-world browser,
simply because of the possibility of as-yet-undiscovered bugs in
the latter.  As soon as you also factor in invalid HTML and invalid
CSS, the probability of successful rendering drops to near-zero,
and the probability that it will render the same on two consecutive
iterations also falls significantly below unity, which may well
explain what is happening at the moment.

Complain loudly and bitterly to Google.  They claim to be
in favour of web standards, and are amongst those responsible
for the [offensive phrase deleted] known as HTML 5.  In reality,
even the most basic check :

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.co.uk/

reveals 37 putative errors and 2 putative warnings, which is
a pretty sad indictment of an organisation that started so
well and on which many of us depend.


I agree, but IE9 shows alsways the google-bar next time.

I have explained the problem to the webmaster, i have furnished him then 
IE9 screenshot, because i am never been able to show the problem with SM.
Most of the time, webmaster don't care about the validator. And if you 
told them, they are unable to correct the errors, perhaps, and because 
they use a tool to contruct their site, and they cannot use notepad to 
modify a generated imbroglio.


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Re: Unread message virtual folder

2011-08-11 Thread Ray_Net

Alberto S. wrote:

Hello,
I wonder if there is a way to set up a virtual folder containing only unread 
messages for all my email accounts.

This is a default feature in Opera Mail and, since it's so powerful, I am 
surprised that it's not available in SeaMonkey.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

Kind Regards
Alberto S.


I have filled an enhancement bug.
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678340
for you.
Now you have to cross your fingers for a certain time :-)

You may add in the bug your sentence:
 This is a default feature in Opera Mail and, since it's so powerful, 
I am surprised that it's not available in SeaMonkey.

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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Robert Kaiser wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

I see them, via about:data / passwords only / show passwords.


Exactly what I'm doing, but the pane remains blank (structure, no
content). Strangely enough, no matter what I choose from that pull-down
menu, the heading at right remains the same: This domain has stored the
following cookies on your computer: There's no way to select the
Passwords tab even if I pull down Passwords only.


Then there's an entry in there that this version of Data Manager has a
problem with. This is fixed in SeaMonkey 2.3 and you should get all
entries there.


OK, thanks.

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Hotmail and 2.0.14

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Pamin
Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I 
already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by 
adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I 
have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14?

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Re: Recover lost passwords?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

sean nathan bean wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher sent me the following::

Will someone remind me how to recover the hundreds of passwords that
vanished in the unintended upgrade from v. 2.0.14 to v. 2.2? I see
nothing in the release notes except an unhelpful suggestion to create a
new profile and migrate various data types (such as passwords) one at a
time, but no guidance on /how/ to do so. RTFM didn't help, either.

Thanks.


from the browser edit  preferences  privacy  security  passwords 
manage stored passwords

still brings up everything i've stored... and i can show passwords...

sounds like you may have an interfering addon...


Have only very plain-vanilla stuff -- Chatzilla, AdBlock Plus, 
JavaScript Debugger, DOM Inspector. If the program doesn't like those, 
it's not my fault.


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a qq for the callek-dude

2011-08-11 Thread km

... this is not really important more like a short cut.
would there be away to automatically put the users name
at the top of a mail msg. the name can be from the user
profile. so when you start mail instead of a blank page
you are presented with a heading???

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Re: Unread message virtual folder

2011-08-11 Thread Philipp van Hüllen

Alberto S. schrieb:

Hello,
I wonder if there is a way to set up a virtual folder containing only unread 
messages for all my email accounts.


Yes, there is.
(Menu entries are translated back to English
be me, but it should be clear what to do.)

- Select any folder in the left pane overview.
- Select Search Messages... from the Extras menu.
- Set the selection criteria to
  Status  -  is not  -  read
  (Don't care yet about the path where to search.
   At this point it does not seem to be possible to search across
   accounts yet.)
  Search some.
- Select Save as search folder.
- Now name the whole thing e.g. all unread messages.
- And here you can select where to search for messages:
  - Browse... to select any(!) combinations of folder you want.
(Worked for me across IMAP accounts, local accounts, RSS feeds, and
 newsgroup accounts. All news in one place.)
- Double check the search criteria.
- Create.

Voilà!

There are more options to it (like online search for IMAP accounts, 
...), but that's tweaking. ;-)
You can later change items via the Properties entry of the created 
search folder.


I guess other programs may be better in advertising this function (I had 
actually not used it before), but I remembered that the good old message 
search function did at some time gain the feature to create saved 
searches. Seems fully implemented (though with minimal UI changes, 
which makes it a bit hidden).

From there it was not that hard to find...
:-)

Good luck!


Philipp

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Re: sync

2011-08-11 Thread Jens Hatlak

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

As far as 'is one a master' assuming I understand your question right,
neither computer/profile is a master by the traditional sense of the
word. You can make changes in both profiles, and Sync will combine those
changes.


The one thing that comes closest to the concept of master is limited 
to the first-time use of a certain Sync account on a certain computer. 
There you can define, under Sync Options, whether to merge the data from 
the client and the server, replace all Sync data on the client, or 
replace all Sync data on the server.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Redundant Java control

2011-08-11 Thread Jens Hatlak

cmcadams wrote:

I notice after updating my Java install that it makes no difference in
SM 2.2 (XP SP3) whether Preferences - Advanced/Enable Java is ticked or
not. It's now always active.


This pref has been removed from SM 2.3. Java is now solely controlled 
from the Add-ons Manager.


HTH

Jens

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Re: Redundant Java control

2011-08-11 Thread cmcadams

Jens Hatlak wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I notice after updating my Java install that it makes no difference in
SM 2.2 (XP SP3) whether Preferences - Advanced/Enable Java is ticked or
not. It's now always active.


This pref has been removed from SM 2.3. Java is now solely controlled from the
Add-ons Manager.

HTH

Jens



From 2.2, apparently. OK, good to know, thanks.
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Re: Redundant Java control

2011-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/11 3:59 PM, cmcadams wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 cmcadams wrote:
 I notice after updating my Java install that it makes no difference in
 SM 2.2 (XP SP3) whether Preferences - Advanced/Enable Java is ticked or
 not. It's now always active.

 This pref has been removed from SM 2.3. Java is now solely controlled from 
 the
 Add-ons Manager.

 HTH

 Jens

 
  From 2.2, apparently. OK, good to know, thanks.

Neither the user interface that you cite nor the preference variable it
controls no longer have any meaning in SM 2.2.  The user interface
should have been removed earlier.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?


I removed it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.



Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJoness' article
from the Mozilla News server?
If so, Why?

The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page.

All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or
the numbers assigned them in the References: list are directed by SM
to the google groups login page. When did you folks begin doing that
(even for articles listed as present on the Mozilla News server)?
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Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread PhillipJones

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?


I removed it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.




Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJoness' article
from the Mozilla News server?
If so, Why?

The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page.

All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or
the numbers assigned them in the References: list are directed by SM
to the google groups login page. When did you folks begin doing that
(even for articles listed as present on the Mozilla News server)?


Because Chris is Chris. nough said.

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http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com
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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread PhillipJones

Keith Whaley wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
world:

PhillipJones wrote:


[...]

I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he
didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list.
Somewhat complicated at times, but hardly as earthshakingly important as
suggested.

keith whaley


Obviously Chris is unaware that FireFox 2.3 is about 4 years old or more.
The person meant obviously SeaMonkey 2.3. but typed FF 2.3

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Re: Norton antivirus and SeaMonkey

2011-08-11 Thread JeffM
JeffM wrote:
There are operating systems that don't need this
band-aids-pasted-all-over-the-outside nonsense.

Ray_Net wrote:
You speak about one of the multitude of the lunix distributions crap ?

Rufus wrote:
 ...which don't do *jack* that I actually want/need to do?

Heh. Bank shot: 2 idiots with one stroke.

Isn't it precious how these empty-headed fanboys
(especially the ones with band-aid-covered OSes)
poke up their heads and spew **non-specific** gibberish
about things they obviously know nothing about?

...while millions of people get all their tasks done under Linux
--without any band-aids or band-aid-induced headaches.
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Re: html5 demo

2011-08-11 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 12:01, Ray_Net told the world:
 MCBastos wrote:

 1. Browser support for WebGL. As far as I know, the only engine
 currently having the needed capabilities is Gecko version 5 and higher.
 This means Firefox 5 or newer, or Seamonkey 2.2 or newer.

 I have SM 2.1 and it works ... so what ?

So apparently I was mistaken. I thought that feature was enabled only on
Firefox 5/Gecko 5/Seamonkey 2.2, but it seems to work also in Firefox
4/Gecko 2/SM 2.1. Sorry.

But it certainly does not work with SM 2.0.x.

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Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14

2011-08-11 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world:
 Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I 
 already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by 
 adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I 
 have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14?

Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0.
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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world:
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
 world:
 PhillipJones wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he 
 didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list. 
 Somewhat complicated at times, but hardly as earthshakingly important as 
 suggested.

That's my standard reply quote-header. I customized it to make it a bit
funnier. IT'S-A-JOKE.

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use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?


I removed it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.




Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJoness' article
from the Mozilla News server?
If so, Why?

The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page.

All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or
the numbers assigned them in the References: list are directed by SM
to the google groups login page. When did you folks begin doing that
(even for articles listed as present on the Mozilla News server)?


I don't get a login page, I just get the post Chris intended to cite:

Chris Ilias 
View profile More options Jun 15, 4:47 pm

On 11-06-15 2:13 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

 That's typical of developers. If they don't use it, whether user it,
 it gone be daxxxed.

Phillip, prejudice comments like that are not welcome here. In the past,
you've spread a lot of misinformation about developers, Mozilla,
SeaMonkey, and me, and smeared them with bigoted comments. Enough is
enough. From now on, if you post an accusation against Mozilla, the
SeaMonkey council, or developers, *without backing it up* , your post
will be removed.

--
Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca
Newsgroup moderator

[end quote]

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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread NoOp
On 08/11/2011 07:10 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world:
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the
 world:
 PhillipJones wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he 
 didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list. 
 Somewhat complicated at times, but hardly as earthshakingly important as 
 suggested.
 
 That's my standard reply quote-header. I customized it to make it a bit
 funnier. IT'S-A-JOKE.
 

Thank goodness you don't use FoxNews...


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Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-11 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by
PhillipJones to my cynical posting I wish I could writhe ... ...
pooper scooper brigade. But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at
Mozilla News.
It used to be that clicking on the Message-ID of the appropriate
message
in the References: list would go out and retrieve the message.
Now it don't do it no more.
Help!

How do I find and retrieve such articles/postings now?
What is SM doing now? What are the options, and what do they mean?


I removed it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/e1b618a1563e79a3.





Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJones' article
from the Mozilla News server?
If so, Why?

The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page.

All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or
the numbers assigned them in the References: list are directed by SM
to the google groups login page. When did you folks begin doing that
(even for articles listed as present on the Mozilla News server)?


I don't get a login page, I just get the post Chris intended to cite:


Curious. How come your attempt to reach that URL goes through, while
mine goes to login page? Curious.
Do you get an automatic logon to google groups?
Oh and thanks for the copy of the article.



Chris Ilias
View profile More options Jun 15, 4:47 pm

On 11-06-15 2:13 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

  That's typical of developers. If they don't use it, whether user it,
  it gone be daxxxed.

Phillip, prejudice comments like that are not welcome here. In the past,
you've spread a lot of misinformation about developers, Mozilla,
SeaMonkey, and me, and smeared them with bigoted comments. Enough is
enough. From now on, if you post an accusation against Mozilla, the
SeaMonkey council, or developers, *without backing it up* , your post
will be removed.


I thought that master Ilias was pointing me to a copy of PhillipJones'
missing article. The part of MR. Jones' post quoted in Mr. Calleks'
posting wasn't at all unduly critical of Mozilla and SeaMonkey, and
not even mentioning master Ilias
Does master Ilias have a grudge feud with Jones, and is playing tin
god ? and does he do this with the authority and approval of the
SeaMonkey council or on his own whim?
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