Re: seamonky email default folders

2015-03-19 Thread Ed Mullen

Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 12:26 AM:

Let's say you deleted all email accounts in seamonkey. Then created a
new one. Once it is created only a inbox folder is present. How does one
get drafts, sent, and trash with their appropriate icons back.

thanks
ronnie



They will be created as you send, delete, etc.

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Re: seamonky email default folders

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Great, thanks


Ed Mullen wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 12:26 AM:
 Let's say you deleted all email accounts in seamonkey. Then created a
 new one. Once it is created only a inbox folder is present. How does one
 get drafts, sent, and trash with their appropriate icons back.

 thanks
 ronnie


 They will be created as you send, delete, etc.


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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
No problem Paul, I'm pretty thin skinned and don't respond as well as I
should given those types of responses. My apologies.


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Ronnie wrote:

 Don't dish it out if you can't take it. Words of wisdom.

 OK, boys, that's enough. If you want to keep this up, take it off the
 list. Nobody else wants to read it. You're just embarrassing yourselves.


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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32 ***. 2.33 crashing all day ***

2015-03-19 Thread Ant

On 3/19/2015 1:31 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

having the exact same problems,   been crashing all day ( at least 10x)
tried safe mode, same problem
updated several add ons no difference

downloaded 2.32 and ran it, it overwrote 2.33 and seems to be OK
anyone else having problems with 2.33

in all the many years of usage never had a crash... until 2.33
have also backed up w/mozback


No problems with my SeaMonkey in updated Windows XP Pro SP3, Debian 
stable, and Mac OS vX 10.8.5.

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Re: PDF.js stopped working.

2015-03-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/19/2015 08:09 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just noticed that the PDF.js extension no longer works, and there
doesn't seem to be any newer version since it was rolled into Firefox. I
tried disabling it, but instead of displaying the PDF in the browser, it
offered to download it instead... :(




Switch to Firefox. :)

It's starting to come to that.  Seamonkey seems to be falling farther 
and farther behind the curve.  Bugs aren't getting fixed but just 
perpetuate from one release to the next as they try to keep up with 
Firefox's ridiculous release cycle.


It's just that I can't STAND the Firefox interface, I much prefer 
Seamonkey's... but it's almost like they're trying to force my hand 
here. :-(


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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Yes sorry for the typo, I meant 2.33


WaltS48 wrote:
 On 03/19/2015 06:22 PM, Ronnie wrote:
 Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
 compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
 lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.


 That's really nice that Lightning 3.3.3 works with SeaMonkey 2.3.3,
 but does it work with the current version 2.33.




 Rob Steinmetz wrote:
 I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
 computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
 calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

 Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat
 random.



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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.


Rob Steinmetz wrote:
 I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
 computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
 calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

 Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.
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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Ray_Net

You are off-topic . as my next sentence.
I wonder what is the color of a rude.
This is closing the thread.


Ronnie wrote on 19/03/2015 18:10:

I wonder what is the color of pretentious?


Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 18/03/2015 19:21:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:

And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word, it's not
meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good
grief.



The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.


A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has
a red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.


Red - the color of the fire so firefox must be ´fire´fox :-)
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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Don't dish it out if you can't take it. Words of wisdom.


Ray_Net wrote:
 You are off-topic . as my next sentence.
 I wonder what is the color of a rude.
 This is closing the thread.


 Ronnie wrote on 19/03/2015 18:10:
 I wonder what is the color of pretentious?


 Ray_Net wrote:
 EE wrote on 18/03/2015 19:21:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:
 And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word,
 it's not
 meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good
 grief.


 The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
 difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.

 A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has
 a red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.

 Red - the color of the fire so firefox must be ´fire´fox :-)
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Re: 2.33 still not up on Ubuntuzilla

2015-03-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

David H. Durgee wrote:

Mason83 wrote:

On 19/03/2015 12:21, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Still waiting. :(


I have gavin up on Ubuntuzilla.
But they just repackage this:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.33/contrib/seamonkey-2.33.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2


Just tar xjf in /opt and you're good to go.


It is on ubuntuzilla now.

Dave


Yup.  It downloaded this evening.  Thanks.

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PDF.js stopped working.

2015-03-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime
Just noticed that the PDF.js extension no longer works, and there 
doesn't seem to be any newer version since it was rolled into Firefox. 
I tried disabling it, but instead of displaying the PDF in the browser, 
it offered to download it instead... :(


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Re: PDF.js stopped working.

2015-03-19 Thread WaltS48

On 03/19/2015 08:09 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just noticed that the PDF.js extension no longer works, and there
doesn't seem to be any newer version since it was rolled into Firefox. I
tried disabling it, but instead of displaying the PDF in the browser, it
offered to download it instead... :(




Switch to Firefox. :)

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Re: Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread WaltS48

On 03/19/2015 06:22 PM, Ronnie wrote:

Lightning 3.3.3 seems to be working here with SM 2.3.3 but I'm using the
compatibility extension that disables checks. However I only use it
lightly perhaps some more advanced features aren't working.



That's really nice that Lightning 3.3.3 works with SeaMonkey 2.3.3, but 
does it work with the current version 2.33.






Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my
computer. I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.

Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.



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Re: seamonky email default folders

2015-03-19 Thread Ed Mullen

Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 3:07 AM:

Great, thanks


Ed Mullen wrote:

Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 12:26 AM:

Let's say you deleted all email accounts in seamonkey. Then created a
new one. Once it is created only a inbox folder is present. How does one
get drafts, sent, and trash with their appropriate icons back.

thanks
ronnie



They will be created as you send, delete, etc.





BTW, when you delete accounts the folders and files of the old accounts 
may not be deleted at the OS level. If you are concerned about drive 
space you can delete them manually in the OS. Same for news groups. 
Mozilla apps leave a lot behind when deleting via the UI.


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Re: seamonky email default folders

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
ok, good to know, thanks.


Ed Mullen wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 3:07 AM:
 Great, thanks


 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 3/19/2015 12:26 AM:
 Let's say you deleted all email accounts in seamonkey. Then created a
 new one. Once it is created only a inbox folder is present. How
 does one
 get drafts, sent, and trash with their appropriate icons back.

 thanks
 ronnie


 They will be created as you send, delete, etc.



 BTW, when you delete accounts the folders and files of the old
 accounts may not be deleted at the OS level. If you are concerned
 about drive space you can delete them manually in the OS. Same for
 news groups. Mozilla apps leave a lot behind when deleting via the UI.


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Re: Un-subscribe

2015-03-19 Thread Daniel

On 18/03/15 22:55, Judy Dolby McBean wrote:


Judy, I see you are using the lists. In the lists header information it 
tells you how to Unsubscribe and that is probably by sending a post with 
Unsubscribe in the Subject:, *not* Un-Subscribe!!


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Re: No WebGL?

2015-03-19 Thread Daniel

On 15/03/15 02:51, Ant wrote:

I get WebGL not supported. in my SeaMonkey v2.33 web browsers from
http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/demo/2313 from
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65222 ... What about the rest of
you? Maybe it is my very old, Windows XP Pro SP3 and its old hardwares. :/


WFM on my Linux install with WebGL.disable disabled (note double negative!).

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Re: Can anyone get the Java scripts to work at support.avast.com ?

2015-03-19 Thread Daniel

On 19/03/15 07:38, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Not sure if this is 2.33 related or has been present with earlier
versions.
I've been trying to use https://support.avast.com , things like the
login or register, and nothing happens.


When I click login, the content area of the page (where it initially
says Avast Customer  Technical Support is a web-based Portal...)
shows a login form. When I click register, the whole lower part of the
page (including the left-hand menu) is replaced with a registration form.

SeaMonkey 2.33 on Windows Vista.


Using my Linux install of SM (as shown in my sig), the RHS changes to 
allow entry of e-mail and Password, and tick spot for Remember Me



My system is a WinXP SP3 and I've tried both Java 7.75 and 8.40.


Despite similar names, JavaScript has little to do with Java apart from
having similar keywords and syntax in the language. It certainly has
nothing to do with whatever JRE or Java plug-in you might have installed.


I have
scripts turn on in the Seamonkey Preferences.


Do you have any add-ons like NoScript, Adblock Plus, Flashblock,
Bluehell Firewall, or similar? If so, try disabling them and see if the
Avast forum works then.


The Avast site shows many errors and warning via the error console which
may or may not be the problem.


Maybe, maybe not. It's not unusual for pages which work in practice to
have a lot of errors. I get about 150-200 errors logged on loading that
page (haven't bothered counting them exactly!) but it works for me.


The site does work on my library's Win7
system for what that is worth.


Probably an extension or something in your profile.

Mark.


*Note* : I don't have Java installed!

Site seems to work for me.

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2.33 still not up on Ubuntuzilla

2015-03-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Still waiting. :(

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Re: No WebGL?

2015-03-19 Thread JAS


Probably since I am using a very old video card and drivers in Windows 
XP Pro SP3.
That is my problem on an old Sony VGN-BX540B laptop running XP Pro 
SP3--Not a problem with software but I can do without it. Have tried to 
update drivers but Intel does no list any newer than I have and the ones 
saying they are on new are on sites that dump lots of other thing on 
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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Peter Nieman

On 19/03/15 03:12, Ant wrote:

Softmaker Office is a high quality product. Fast, efficient, almost
bug-free and - unlike all the alternatives I know of - everything but
bloated. (I've been using the Linux version for many years.) So my hope
is that their commitment to Thunderbird will have a positive influence
also on the quality of the mail component in Seamonkey.


So, it is better than the free OpenOffice and LibreOffice?


When I tried OpenOffice years ago it was a beast. Extremely bloated and 
slow, and difficult to use compared to lean and polished SoftMaker. When 
I try to install LibreOffice on Debian Linux today, it tells me that it 
will consume 293 MB of disc space. That's enough of a reason for me to 
stay away from it. Softmaker Office 2008 uses about 121 MB here.

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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:

mszi...@poczta.pl wrote on 3/19/2015 2:46 PM:

Hi, everybody there,
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of
SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no
problems at all, and to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to
do that? I can find no information in SM help. Please, help me

Mathew



None of the other replies answered you key question:  How to downgrade.

Uninstall the 2.33 program.  Download the 2.32 installer.  Install.


I count three out of the five replies in this thread (other than yours) 
that said that. All three are over five hours old.


Time to check your view preferences?

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Re: PDF.js stopped working.

2015-03-19 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 03/19/2015 08:09 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just noticed that the PDF.js extension no longer works, and there
doesn't seem to be any newer version since it was rolled into Firefox. I
tried disabling it, but instead of displaying the PDF in the browser, it
offered to download it instead... :(




Switch to Firefox. :)


It's starting to come to that.  Seamonkey seems to be falling farther
and farther behind the curve.  Bugs aren't getting fixed but just
perpetuate from one release to the next as they try to keep up with
Firefox's ridiculous release cycle.

It's just that I can't STAND the Firefox interface, I much prefer
Seamonkey's... but it's almost like they're trying to force my hand
here. :-(

Good news!  There is a Development Version of PDF.js that does work 
with Seamonkey.  You can find it here:

https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/

Scroll down till you can find the link to Development Version and 
click on that.  It'll install the latest version of PDF.js and you can 
view Acrobat documents in the browser again.


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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread Ed Mullen

mszi...@poczta.pl wrote on 3/19/2015 2:46 PM:

Hi, everybody there,
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of 
SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no problems at all, and 
to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to do that? I can find no information in SM 
help. Please, help me

Mathew



None of the other replies answered you key question:  How to downgrade.

Uninstall the 2.33 program.  Download the 2.32 installer.  Install.

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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ronnie wrote:


Don't dish it out if you can't take it. Words of wisdom.


OK, boys, that's enough. If you want to keep this up, take it off the 
list. Nobody else wants to read it. You're just embarrassing yourselves.


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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread EE

mszi...@poczta.pl wrote:

Hi, everybody there,
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of 
SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no problems at all, and 
to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to do that? I can find no information in SM 
help. Please, help me

Mathew

The preference setting for updating is in Preferences  Advanced  
Software Installation.


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Re: New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!

2015-03-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/19/2015 9:55 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
 New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/
 
 Phil
 

Is there a U.S. postal address where donations can be sent via bank
checks denominated in US$?

The Mozilla Foundation is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt charitable foundation.
 501(c)(3) is the section of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code that
defines such foundations.  Under U.S. laws and the tax laws of most U.S.
states, my donation to a 501(c)(3) foundation -- including the Mozilla
Foundation -- can be deducted from my income before I compute my income
taxes.  Are donations to SeaMonkey also deductible?  If not, can
donations be sent to the Mozilla Foundation with a request that they be
applied to the SeaMonkey project?

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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread Mason83
On 19/03/2015 19:46, mszi...@poczta.pl wrote:
 Hi, everybody there, 
 Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of 
 SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no problems 
 at all, and to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to do that? I can 
 find no information in SM help. Please, help me

Uninstall 2.33
Install 2.32
Disable automatic upgrades

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.32/

Be aware that updates fix security problems!

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Re: 2.33 still not up on Ubuntuzilla

2015-03-19 Thread Mason83
On 19/03/2015 12:21, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Still waiting. :(

I have gavin up on Ubuntuzilla.
But they just repackage this:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.33/contrib/seamonkey-2.33.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

Just tar xjf in /opt and you're good to go.

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Re: 2.33 still not up on Ubuntuzilla

2015-03-19 Thread David H. Durgee

Mason83 wrote:

On 19/03/2015 12:21, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Still waiting. :(


I have gavin up on Ubuntuzilla.
But they just repackage this:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.33/contrib/seamonkey-2.33.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

Just tar xjf in /opt and you're good to go.


It is on ubuntuzilla now.

Dave

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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
I wonder what is the color of pretentious?


Ray_Net wrote:
 EE wrote on 18/03/2015 19:21:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:
 And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word, it's not
 meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good
 grief.


 The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
 difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.

 A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has
 a red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.

 Red - the color of the fire so firefox must be ´fire´fox :-)
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New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!

2015-03-19 Thread Philip Chee
New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Ant

...

Softmaker Office is a high quality product. Fast, efficient, almost
bug-free and - unlike all the alternatives I know of - everything but
bloated. (I've been using the Linux version for many years.) So my hope
is that their commitment to Thunderbird will have a positive influence
also on the quality of the mail component in Seamonkey.


So, it is better than the free OpenOffice and LibreOffice? Too bad there
is no free version.


Wrong.  Free version is available here:

www.freeoffice.com


Oh, even better. I wonder how good its compatbilities are with MS Office 
files. I always had this problem. :(

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I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread mszieba
Hi, everybody there, 
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of 
SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no problems at 
all, and to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to do that? I can find 
no information in SM help. Please, help me

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Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Mason83
Hello,

I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning.
But every time I want to install it, going back several months,
I can't because  it is said to be incompatible.

Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

Regards.
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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32 ***. 2.33 crashing all day ***

2015-03-19 Thread rjkrjk

having the exact same problems,   been crashing all day ( at least 10x)
tried safe mode, same problem
updated several add ons no difference

downloaded 2.32 and ran it, it overwrote 2.33 and seems to be OK
anyone else having problems with 2.33

in all the many years of usage never had a crash... until 2.33
have also backed up w/mozback




Mason83 wrote on 3/19/2015 3:53 PM:

On 19/03/2015 19:46, mszi...@poczta.pl wrote:

Hi, everybody there,
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes of 
SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, whith which I had no problems at all, and 
to disable any future automatic upgrades. How to do that? I can find no information in SM 
help. Please, help me


Uninstall 2.33
Install 2.32
Disable automatic upgrades

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.32/

Be aware that updates fix security problems!

Regards


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Re: I want to downgrade to SeaMonkey 2,32

2015-03-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mason83 wrote:


On 19/03/2015 19:46, mszi...@poczta.pl wrote:

Hi, everybody there,
Since 2.33 has upgraded on my computer, I have constantly crashes
of SeaMonkey. I want to downgrade to 2.32, asap, with which I had
no problems at all, and to disable any future automatic upgrades.
How to do that? I can find no information in SM help. Please, help
me


Uninstall 2.33
Install 2.32
Disable automatic upgrades

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.32/

Be aware that updates fix security problems!


I would advise changing the order of the steps:

1) Disable automatic upgrades
2) Uninstall 2.33
3) Install 2.32

Since the pref is stored in the user profile, it will survive the 
uninstall/install process. You don't want to to go all that trouble and 
have SM instantly undo your work with an automatic upgrade before you 
change the setting.


Ideally, of course, as Mason83 suggests, you would fix the crash issue 
and go on with 2.33.


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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Peter Nieman

On 19/03/15 17:49, Ronnie wrote:

SoftOffice is about 300 megs same as libreoffice


Not true here. Care to tell us which version (and OS) you are talking 
about? And which components your figure includes? The professional 
version of SO comes with no less than six complete dictionaries, for 
instance. 300 MB for LibreOffice is just the base package. So please 
don't compare apples and oranges.



with a near identical
interface as libreoffice at least from the screenshots i've seen


Sure. And the moon is near identical to a cheese from the screenshots 
I've seen.

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
My mistake Peter I thought you were speaking of SoftMaker Office. That
is about 300. http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofwdemo_en.htm

Are you speaking of KingSoft Office?

Peter Nieman wrote:
 On 19/03/15 17:49, Ronnie wrote:
 SoftOffice is about 300 megs same as libreoffice

 Not true here. Care to tell us which version (and OS) you are talking
 about? And which components your figure includes? The professional
 version of SO comes with no less than six complete dictionaries, for
 instance. 300 MB for LibreOffice is just the base package. So please
 don't compare apples and oranges.

 with a near identical
 interface as libreoffice at least from the screenshots i've seen

 Sure. And the moon is near identical to a cheese from the screenshots
 I've seen.
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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
Peter there is also no reason to respond in such a manner. People do
misunderstand from time to time, it's not an opportunity to be belittling.


Peter Nieman wrote:
 On 19/03/15 17:49, Ronnie wrote:
 SoftOffice is about 300 megs same as libreoffice

 Not true here. Care to tell us which version (and OS) you are talking
 about? And which components your figure includes? The professional
 version of SO comes with no less than six complete dictionaries, for
 instance. 300 MB for LibreOffice is just the base package. So please
 don't compare apples and oranges.

 with a near identical
 interface as libreoffice at least from the screenshots i've seen

 Sure. And the moon is near identical to a cheese from the screenshots
 I've seen.
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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Yamo'
Hi,

Mason83 a écrit le 19/03/2015 22:20 :
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning.
 But every time I want to install it, going back several months,
 I can't because  it is said to be incompatible.
 
 Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

Many users can use it on Seamonkey.

A page to bookmark :
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions


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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Mason83
On 19/03/2015 22:20, Mason83 wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning. But every time I
 want to install it, going back several months, I can't because  it is
 said to be incompatible.
 
 Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

Hmmm, guess I should read the release notes more closely!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/

 Extensions with binary components such as Lightning, Enigmail and
 HTML Validator only work on certain platforms (e.g. Windows).
 Furthermore they need to be adjusted for each new SeaMonkey release,
 which also means that an old version of such an add-on can break
 SeaMonkey if you disabled compatibility checking (which e.g. happens
 when you install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter add-on).
 
 For Lightning, please check the Stable Releases section on the
 Calendar Versions page. Alternatively check the Lightning add-on page
 (Development Channel at the bottom of the page).

 For Enigmail, please refer to the Enigmail Nightly Builds page.

 For HTML Validator you need to check whether the Firefox version that
 appears on SeaMonkey's about: page is listed on the 0.9x download
 page. Note that only Windows is supported at this time.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.29 dropped support for the legacy JavaScript Debugger
 interface (JSD1). Hence add-ons that relied on it, like the
 JavaScript Debugger (Venkman) that came bundled with SeaMonkey, or
 Firebug 1.x, have stopped working. While Venkman has been
 discontinued, Firebug can simply be upgraded to a more recent version
 (2.x) which supports the new JSD2 interface. If you are searching for
 a Venkman replacement (especially for debugging SeaMonkey itself or
 add-ons), have a look at the Tiny JavaScript Debugger add-on.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions#Stable_Releases

So I should use Lightning version 3.8b2
(Doesn't the b stand for beta?)

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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
What we did is used the converter to add the compatibility checker
extension which will ignore incompatible messages that I've found to
show a bunch of false positives. We then added lightbird as well.

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkcompatibility/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightbird/

you can read our seamonkey article and if you want install our lxle
seamonkey mod, up to you.

http://lxle.net/articles/?post=lxle-switch-to-seamonkey-introduces-rotation-donation

Mason83 wrote:
 Hello,

 I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning.
 But every time I want to install it, going back several months,
 I can't because  it is said to be incompatible.

 Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread WaltS48

On 03/19/2015 05:20 PM, Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning.
But every time I want to install it, going back several months,
I can't because  it is said to be incompatible.

Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

Regards.




Works great if you use the right version.

[Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for 
Thunderbird](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/?page=1#version-3.8b2)


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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread WaltS48

On 03/19/2015 05:28 PM, Mason83 wrote:

On 19/03/2015 22:20, Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning. But every time I
want to install it, going back several months, I can't because  it is
said to be incompatible.

Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?


Hmmm, guess I should read the release notes more closely!

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/


Extensions with binary components such as Lightning, Enigmail and
HTML Validator only work on certain platforms (e.g. Windows).
Furthermore they need to be adjusted for each new SeaMonkey release,
which also means that an old version of such an add-on can break
SeaMonkey if you disabled compatibility checking (which e.g. happens
when you install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter add-on).

For Lightning, please check the Stable Releases section on the
Calendar Versions page. Alternatively check the Lightning add-on page
(Development Channel at the bottom of the page).

For Enigmail, please refer to the Enigmail Nightly Builds page.

For HTML Validator you need to check whether the Firefox version that
appears on SeaMonkey's about: page is listed on the 0.9x download
page. Note that only Windows is supported at this time.

SeaMonkey 2.29 dropped support for the legacy JavaScript Debugger
interface (JSD1). Hence add-ons that relied on it, like the
JavaScript Debugger (Venkman) that came bundled with SeaMonkey, or
Firebug 1.x, have stopped working. While Venkman has been
discontinued, Firebug can simply be upgraded to a more recent version
(2.x) which supports the new JSD2 interface. If you are searching for
a Venkman replacement (especially for debugging SeaMonkey itself or
add-ons), have a look at the Tiny JavaScript Debugger add-on.


https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions#Stable_Releases

So I should use Lightning version 3.8b2
(Doesn't the b stand for beta?)

Regards.



Yes it does stand for Beta.

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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
I had to stay with the current stable version 3.3.3 to keep lightbird
working. The new one causes all kinda of goofy stuff going on. I emailed
the developer and informed them about then newer versions causing issue.


WaltS48 wrote:
 On 03/19/2015 05:20 PM, Mason83 wrote:
 Hello,

 I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning.
 But every time I want to install it, going back several months,
 I can't because  it is said to be incompatible.

 Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

 Regards.



 Works great if you use the right version.

 [Lightning :: Versions :: Add-ons for
 Thunderbird](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/versions/?page=1#version-3.8b2)


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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
I like working a bit backwards I suppose when it comes to compatibility
reports/extensions. If something continues to work because the extension
is installed and I don't have to either do without or go looking for a
beta I'm happy, if something fails to work after an upgrade with the
compatibility checker disabled I then go to try and find either an
upgrade and or beta to resolve the issue.  Matter of preference I guess
or perhaps general use opposed to business use where compatibility is
too risky to chance.


WaltS48 wrote:
 On 03/19/2015 05:28 PM, Mason83 wrote:
 On 19/03/2015 22:20, Mason83 wrote:
 Hello,

 I'd like to use the calendaring add-on Lightning. But every time I
 want to install it, going back several months, I can't because  it is
 said to be incompatible.

 Has anyone managed to use Lightning on Seamonkey?

 Hmmm, guess I should read the release notes more closely!

 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/

 Extensions with binary components such as Lightning, Enigmail and
 HTML Validator only work on certain platforms (e.g. Windows).
 Furthermore they need to be adjusted for each new SeaMonkey release,
 which also means that an old version of such an add-on can break
 SeaMonkey if you disabled compatibility checking (which e.g. happens
 when you install the Add-on Compatibility Reporter add-on).

 For Lightning, please check the Stable Releases section on the
 Calendar Versions page. Alternatively check the Lightning add-on page
 (Development Channel at the bottom of the page).

 For Enigmail, please refer to the Enigmail Nightly Builds page.

 For HTML Validator you need to check whether the Firefox version that
 appears on SeaMonkey's about: page is listed on the 0.9x download
 page. Note that only Windows is supported at this time.

 SeaMonkey 2.29 dropped support for the legacy JavaScript Debugger
 interface (JSD1). Hence add-ons that relied on it, like the
 JavaScript Debugger (Venkman) that came bundled with SeaMonkey, or
 Firebug 1.x, have stopped working. While Venkman has been
 discontinued, Firebug can simply be upgraded to a more recent version
 (2.x) which supports the new JSD2 interface. If you are searching for
 a Venkman replacement (especially for debugging SeaMonkey itself or
 add-ons), have a look at the Tiny JavaScript Debugger add-on.

 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Calendar/Calendar_Versions#Stable_Releases


 So I should use Lightning version 3.8b2
 (Doesn't the b stand for beta?)

 Regards.


 Yes it does stand for Beta.


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Lightning in SeaMonkey 2.33

2015-03-19 Thread Rob Steinmetz
I just upgraded to 2.33 and Lightning is broke, at least on my computer. 
I upgraded to Lightning 3.8b2 and nothing works. I tried the 
calendar.icaljs fix posed elsewhere but it was already set to false.


Any ideas I don't seem to be alone but it is apparently somewhat random.
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Re: No WebGL?

2015-03-19 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/14/2015 8:51 AM, Ant wrote:
 I get WebGL not supported. in my SeaMonkey v2.33 web browsers from 
 http://js1k.com/2015-hypetrain/demo/2313 from 
 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65222 ... What about the rest of 
 you? Maybe it is my very old, Windows XP Pro SP3 and its old hardwares. :/
 

Because of news reports 2-4 years ago about WebGL creating security
vulnerabilities, I set webgl.disabled to true via user.js.  What has
Mozilla done since then to eliminate those vulnerabilities?

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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-19 Thread Ray_Net

EE wrote on 18/03/2015 19:21:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:

And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word, it's not
meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good grief.



The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.

A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has a 
red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.



Red - the color of the fire so firefox must be ´fire´fox :-)
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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

2015-03-19 Thread Ronnie
SoftOffice is about 300 megs same as libreoffice with a near identical
interface as libreoffice at least from the screenshots i've seen... ehhh
but ok


Peter Nieman wrote:
 On 19/03/15 03:12, Ant wrote:
 Softmaker Office is a high quality product. Fast, efficient, almost
 bug-free and - unlike all the alternatives I know of - everything but
 bloated. (I've been using the Linux version for many years.) So my hope
 is that their commitment to Thunderbird will have a positive influence
 also on the quality of the mail component in Seamonkey.

 So, it is better than the free OpenOffice and LibreOffice?

 When I tried OpenOffice years ago it was a beast. Extremely bloated
 and slow, and difficult to use compared to lean and polished
 SoftMaker. When I try to install LibreOffice on Debian Linux today, it
 tells me that it will consume 293 MB of disc space. That's enough of a
 reason for me to stay away from it. Softmaker Office 2008 uses about
 121 MB here.
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