Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread rickman

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 5/26/2017 8:51 PM:

rickman wrote:


joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of
messages and postings, I have not found a way to change the size
of text in such things as the list of messages; this makes SM very
difficult to use an a large high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the
post subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting
serious eyestrain.


On my Windows system, that's a function of the operating system.
Right-click an empty area of the desktop, choose "Properties" (Win7:
"Personalize"), and you can configure the font sizes of menu items in
all programs at once.


I've already set that for Windows.  This program behaves differently 
from other apps including *T-Bird* which shares a common code base but 
not the details of the look.




On your system (which OS?), is this peculiar to SeaMonkey, or are all
menu items in all programs equally hard to read? If it's a global issue,
it needs a global solution; it makes no sense to customize every program
separately.


There are some apps which are not coded to work with the Windows 
setting.  So they are still very small.  Eudora is one.  It is a program 
that has not had any updates for over 15 years.


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Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.


When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the 
password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the 
same password manager used in the browser.



Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply 
to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar 
icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to 
the sender only.


To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
* drag the message to any mail folder
* control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
* On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
* Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy 
the message to a folder.




2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.



I think there is, but I can't find the preference right now. Hoping 
someone else can look it up. :)




3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Try the instructions at .
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.

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Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

rickman wrote:


joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of
messages and postings, I have not found a way to change the size
of text in such things as the list of messages; this makes SM very
difficult to use an a large high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the
post subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting
serious eyestrain.


On my Windows system, that's a function of the operating system. 
Right-click an empty area of the desktop, choose "Properties" (Win7: 
"Personalize"), and you can configure the font sizes of menu items in 
all programs at once.


On your system (which OS?), is this peculiar to SeaMonkey, or are all 
menu items in all programs equally hard to read? If it's a global issue, 
it needs a global solution; it makes no sense to customize every program 
separately.


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Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread G. Ross

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Thanks,

Joe Gwinn

Can't help you with Mac but on windows there is a selection in the 
control panel named "Display".  In it you can change the display font 
size.  This seems to make the text larger in the areas you mentioned. 
 Until my eye surgery I had to use the largest size but now changed 
it to medium.


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Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread rickman

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


I don't know about saving posts as emails to self, but SeaMonkey is also 
a newsreader.  So all those features should be included in the 
newsreader function of SeaMonkey.


Actually I just checked and I can click "reply to sender" then edit the 
address and email it to myself.




2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the post 
subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting serious 
eyestrain.


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Re: New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread Arnie Goetchius
joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
> gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> 
> 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
> not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot 
> post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this 
> case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be 
> that lucky in the future.
> 

At the top of the screen, select "Edit"
Select "Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings"
Scroll down to the bottom for "Outgoing Server SMTP"
Click "Add" and then add the details for your mail server.

On mine, I have "Normal Password" selected. The first time I try sending an 
email, it asks for my
password and then saves it so it won't ask for it again. This is somewhat of an 
over simplification
but you can Google Seamonkey Mail Setup for more details.

> Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
> email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.
> 
> 
> 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
> and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
> my attempts to sent email never complete.
> 
> 
> 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
> and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such 
> things as the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a 
> large high-resolution display.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe Gwinn
> 

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New user - with questions

2017-05-26 Thread joegwinn
I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Thanks,

Joe Gwinn
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Re: Seamonkey super sluggish

2017-05-26 Thread NFN Smith

OK, you've addressed most of the common things.


Rick Collins wrote:



2) Is your computer slow when Seamonkey is closed, and you're
interacting with other applications?  If you live in Seamonkey, it's
easy to blame Seamonkey for slowness, when it may be just the symptom of
other things that are causing performance issues.


I switched to SeaMonkey because T-bird was so slow with delays when
doing simple things like moving the cursor and seeing the
highlighting stop, inability to select anything, essentially the user
interface freezes.  At times it would take minutes for it to return.
SeaMonkey does the same sorts of things, but it returns a lot more
quickly.




The rest of my machine is pretty smooth with few delays. Monitoring
the state of the computer with Task Manager shows nothing hogging
*any* resource that would slow SeaMonkey.


OK, that would seem to rule out other things.

One thing that I've noticed is that with Mozilla things, sometimes 
hang-ups seem to be script-related, and stuff that frequently doesn't 
show up in the task manger.  I occasionally have hangs and pauses, and 
they're annoying, and no obvious source.  One thing I have seen is that 
if I have Seamonkey open when I hibernate, and then I resume from 
hibernation, it often takes several minutes before things settle enough 
that I can use the machine again. And at least some of the time, I get 
script timeout warnings from Lightning.  I'm almost to the point of 
preferring a full shutdown and restart to using hibernation.






There's a lot of things that could be happening, such as background AV
scanning, other applications that are updating, etc.  





These things would show up in Task Manager. When I bring my machine
out of hibernate there is a malware program that saturates the disk for
a minute or three. I can see that happen and the entire machine is
affected. So I can't understand how anything like this would sap a
single application.


Stuff outside of Seamonkey, yes.  However, as noted above, I've seen 
evidence of scripts hanging, but not where they're obviously consuming 
memory or CPU. For what it's worth, beyond the response times I see when 
coming out of hibernation, when I'm seeing performance issues, it's 
often when the Task Manager reports RAM usage at more than a GB.  In 
that combination, I generally find a way of restarting Seamonkey, 
although I don't like to do that, because I generally don't allow POP 
and IMAP connections to keep login credentials, and I flush cookies when 
I shut down seamonkey.  Although I don't mind having to go through 
several authentications at the beginning of the day, it's more of a pain 
to do that following a restart.






Adobe notoriously "fat", and includes a lot of low-priority plugins.




Acrobat hasn't been used on this machine ever.  I use lightweight PDF viewers 
like Sumatra and Foxit.


A good approach. Use Adobe only if there's a specific need for it.  But 
in any case, it looks like you don't have a lot of auto-started stuff 
consuming memory.






3) Hardware can be a problem, too.  The most common area of question is
RAM -- if you're running a machine with 4 GB of RAM, and you typically
use more than that, then you're going to be doing a lot of memory
swapping to hard disk, and you'll notice that in performance.





Same thing with this concern.  I have 16 GB of RAM.  If the RAM would
the problem is manifests by swapping to the hard drive saturating the
drive.  I see neither the drive being saturated nor the memory being
used up.  Right now the RAM usage is 12.4 GB.

12.4 G is a lot of use, but if you have 16, you're not RAM-constrained.





I also find slowness issues with hard drives:

- Check your disk usage.  If your hard drive is more than 50% capacity,
it will be slower than if you have less.  



Under Windows 8 a defragging application runs automatically.  Hard
drive congestion is only a factor if a lot of accesses are being made
to the hard drive.  I see light activity and there is no special
reason why the SeaMonkey apps would be more subject to the delays
than any other apps.


Even Win 7 runs defragging automatically, and it's enough where I rarely 
bother to defrag a drive.


However, if your drive is nearly full, you'll notice the the effects a 
lot more than you may think, even on a relatively quiet system. Although 
your use description indicates that you're not doing much in the way of 
memory swapping, Windows does touch the hard disk a lot more than you 
think. Actually, any operating system.  I have a Linux box that runs as 
a single partition (except for /swap) and a while back, I was running at 
nearly 80% capacity, and performance for everything was noticeably slow, 
enough that it was difficult to use the KDE desktop.  When I did some 
cleanup (especially discarding virtual machine snapshots), and brought 
storage down to about 2/3, performance was noticeably better.




I am using the SeaMonkey browser at the moment to type this 

Re: Untrusted connection problem

2017-05-26 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

notme wrote:

The website http://www.retrobistro.com loads normally on SeaMonkey
2.46 when I am logged into my user account on my wife's laptop. But
when she is logged in on her user account, it gives the warning
messages

"This Connection is Untrusted"
and
"This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible
to add an exception for this certificate."

The sites loads normally on my wife's user account using either
Firefox v53.0.3 or Internet Explorer 11. The laptop is running
Windows 10 Home with all updates installed.

Any help in resolving this issue will be much appreciated. Thanks!


It doesn't seem to use HSTS now, but perhaps it did in the past. I 
haven't seen that particular one before, but strange things can happen 
if sites use HSTS and then stop and do certain other things (like 
redirect their https site to http or let their certificate expire). You 
can remove SeaMonkey's record of it having previously used HSTS:

1. Close SeaMonkey
2. Open your profile folder 

3. Open SiteSecurityServiceState.txt with a plain text editor (not 
Windows Notepad though, as it doesn't recognise the line endings; 
Wordpad or Notepad++ should be fine)

4. Find any lines containing retrobistro.com:HSTS and delete them
5. Save the file
6. Start SeaMonkey and try accessing that page again

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Re: Seamonkey Icons

2017-05-26 Thread rickman

MozUser wrote on 5/26/2017 1:51 PM:

Different icons appear there !
What do they mean ?


You mean the icons in that column rather than the icon at the top of the 
column, right?


In my copy of Seamonkey the icons in the leftmost column are either 
present or not and indicate the given thread has replies which will be 
shown as threaded when open.


Compares to T-bird, the Seamonkey tables are very compressed and hard to 
read.  In particular the icons are nearly impossible to distinguish. 
When new posts are available, the icons in the groups list show a 
microscopic green arrow that I have a very hard time making out.  In 
T-bird instead of the tiny green arrow, the entire text of the group 
name would become green when a new message came in.


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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Lee
On 5/26/17, Paul B. Gallagher  wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
>>> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too
>>> tiny to present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing
>>> overhead. I'd like to be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form
>>> without the bloat favicons represent.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?
>>
>> I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?
>>
>> ...
>>
>
> Here's an easy way:
>
> In a browser window, right-click the leftmost part of the location bar,
> where an icon would appear. Choose Settings for this Toolbar: Text.

 there's an icon that sort of looks like a paper airplane .. or
maybe a pencil with a notched eraser, on the location bar just to the
left of the "https://;
right click on that, left click on Settings for this Toolbar and
there's a black dot next to Icons


What I have now works just fine for me, so I don't want to mess with
it - thanks anyway!

Regards,
Lee
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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Lee
On 5/26/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
> Lee composed on 2017-05-26 10:24 (UTC-0400):
>
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>
>>> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny
>>> to
>>> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd
>>> like to
>>> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons
>>> represent.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?
>
>> I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?
>
>> alerts.showFavicons   false
>
> Already was.
>
>> browser.chrome.favicons  false
>
> Already was.
>
>> browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size  0
>
> Was 1024.
>
>> browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons  0
>
> Did not exist.
>
>> browser.chrome.site_icons  false
>
> Was true.
>
>> and
>> browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML  true
>
> I do it manually when desired.
>
> Fresh export with all set as you have except autoExport still has them all,
> saved html file same size as last time. :-(

Not really surprising - I think those settings just prevent icons from
creeping into your bookmarks.

You're a linux user, so you have vi - correct?

Try this - hopefully it's just a one-time thing after you have all the
icon stuph turned off:
- export your bookmarks
- exit seamonkey
- copy the bookmarks.html file somewhere safe
vi bookmarks.html
:1,$ s/ ICON_URI="[^"]*"//
:1,$ s/ ICON="data:[^"]*"//
:wq
- start seamonkey
- delete all your bookmarks
- import your edited bookmarks.html file

enjoy!

Regards,
Lee


I found an old bookmarks file in my backups and it had two types of
icon references:
 ICON_URI="http://whatever;
and
 ICON="data:image/png;base64,whatever"

I don't remember if vi pattern matching is greedy or no, so instead of
matching on
 ".*" which could match way more than you want, match on
 "[^"]*"
which matches everything up to a "

I'm on windoze & used the windows version of vim - ymmv
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Re: Seamonkey Icons

2017-05-26 Thread MozUser

Different icons appear there !
What do they mean ?

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Re: Seamonkey Icons

2017-05-26 Thread WaltS48

MozUser wrote:

Where are the icons for newsgroups defined ?
SPECIFICALLY please, not just "over yonder" in some doc.
I do not know what these are called.
What is the icon column called ?
What is it for ?

The icons in the first column next to the Subject Column of post headers.

TIA



The one on the far left of the Thread Pane?

The tool tip says "Display message threads". If I click it, the messages 
display Unthreaded.


If you want to remove it from the Column, just click the icon on the far 
right and uncheck Thread.

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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Lee wrote:

On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:

Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too
tiny to present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing
overhead. I'd like to be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form
without the bloat favicons represent.

Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?


I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?

...



Here's an easy way:

In a browser window, right-click the leftmost part of the location bar, 
where an icon would appear. Choose Settings for this Toolbar: Text.


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Seamonkey Icons

2017-05-26 Thread MozUser

Where are the icons for newsgroups defined ?
SPECIFICALLY please, not just "over yonder" in some doc.
I do not know what these are called.
What is the icon column called ?
What is it for ?

The icons in the first column next to the Subject Column of post headers.

TIA

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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Felix Miata
Lee composed on 2017-05-26 10:24 (UTC-0400):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny to
>> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd like 
>> to
>> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons
>> represent.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?

> I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?

> alerts.showFavicons   false

Already was.

> browser.chrome.favicons  false

Already was.

> browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size  0

Was 1024.

> browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons  0

Did not exist.

> browser.chrome.site_icons  false

Was true.

> and
> browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML  true

I do it manually when desired.

Fresh export with all set as you have except autoExport still has them all,
saved html file same size as last time. :-(
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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Lee
On 5/26/17, David E. Ross  wrote:
> On 5/26/2017 7:24 AM, Lee wrote:
>> On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
>>> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny
>>> to
>>> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd
>>> like
>>> to
>>> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons
>>> represent.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?
>>
>> I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?
>>
>> alerts.showFavicons   false
>> browser.chrome.favicons  false
>> browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size  0
>> browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons  0
>> browser.chrome.site_icons  false
>>
>> and
>> browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML  true
>>
>> I just took a quick look thru the auto-saved bookmarks.html and didn't
>> see any icons - even searching for "icon" didn't show anything that
>> looked like an icon.  What keyword should I be searching for?
>>
>> Lee
>>
>
> In bookmarks.html, look for ICON_URI.

Thanks.

no instances of "ICON_URI" in either SM or FF auto-saved bookmarks.html :)

Lee
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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/26/2017 7:24 AM, Lee wrote:
> On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
>> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny to
>> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd like
>> to
>> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons
>> represent.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?
> 
> I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?
> 
> alerts.showFavicons   false
> browser.chrome.favicons  false
> browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size  0
> browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons  0
> browser.chrome.site_icons  false
> 
> and
> browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML  true
> 
> I just took a quick look thru the auto-saved bookmarks.html and didn't
> see any icons - even searching for "icon" didn't show anything that
> looked like an icon.  What keyword should I be searching for?
> 
> Lee
> 

In bookmarks.html, look for ICON_URI.

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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

2017-05-26 Thread Lee
On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
> Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too tiny to
> present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing overhead. I'd like
> to
> be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form without the bloat favicons
> represent.
>
> Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?

I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?

alerts.showFavicons   false
browser.chrome.favicons  false
browser.chrome.image_icons.max_size  0
browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons  0
browser.chrome.site_icons  false

and
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML  true

I just took a quick look thru the auto-saved bookmarks.html and didn't
see any icons - even searching for "icon" didn't show anything that
looked like an icon.  What keyword should I be searching for?

Lee
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Untrusted connection problem

2017-05-26 Thread notme
The website http://www.retrobistro.com loads normally on SeaMonkey 2.46 
when I am logged into my user account on my wife's laptop. But when she 
is logged in on her user account, it gives the warning messages


"This Connection is Untrusted"
and
"This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate."


The sites loads normally on my wife's user account using either Firefox 
v53.0.3 or Internet Explorer 11. The laptop is running Windows 10 Home 
with all updates installed.


Any help in resolving this issue will be much appreciated. Thanks!

John
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