Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

2017-08-11 Thread David H. Durgee

WaltS48 wrote:

On 8/10/17 2:27 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.48!

So please check out [1] or [2].

This release would not be possible without the help from a lot
of people; but the person I'd like to thank personally is
Nick Thomas.  With his help on the updates issue, I managed
to get over the horkage in the final verification step.  Thanks
Nick!


We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.48
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.48/


Is anyone on this newsgroup in touch with the ubuntuzilla maintainer?
This release has been up for ten days and the PPA has yet to be
updated to offer this release.

Dave




Install using one of the links above and don't depend on PPA's.

I'm still waiting for Firefox 54.0.1 from Ubuntu, and Firefox 55 is out.
I just install their release to see how bad the delay is in getting the
new version out. I don't use it.


Ubuntuzilla just got 2.48 and I am now updated to the latest build. 
Hopefully things will be more timely for later releases now that 
SeaMonkey is back in production mode.


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Re: WEB Ctrl D

2017-08-11 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:

On 8/11/17 2:31 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

I had Ctrl D set to open to a list of bookmark folders rather than
just headers.  It got reset to default - takes an extra button to see
folders - and I can't find the switch.  Where is it?

TY
Ray


Um, maybe removed in your SeaMonkey 2.50.


I had intended to be in 2.48, which I now am.  No change.

The default used to be tree open.  At some point it changed to tree 
closed, but someone posted how to set a switch to tree open.  And so I 
did, but now I have lost it.


Haven't heard of that key combination to open a set of bookmarks. In
Firefox it is used to bookmark a page.

Same in SM.  But you need to open the bookmark tree to place it in the 
desired folder.


Ray

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Re: Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/2017 2:10 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 8/11/2017 1:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/11/2017 8:04 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> On 8/11/2017 7:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/11/2017 12:27 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:
>>>
>>>  > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
>>>  > History Button from
  and import it
 into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
 of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the 
 .xpi
 file before importing.
>>>
>>> Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
>>> enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
>>> PrefBar button. :)
>>>
>>
>> No, no, no!
>>
>> 30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.
>>
>> SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
>> history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.
>
> Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was
> fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly
> confirm this too on theirs too? :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
>

 You quoted newsgroup messages that are 5 years old.  Since then, I moved
 the Expire History button from Eabled Items in PrefBar to Available
 Items.  I then installed the "Expire history by days" extension.

 There is good news and bad news about "Expire history by days".  The bad
 news is that the current version (1.3.1) cannot work with SeaMonkey and
 that the last "good" version (1.2.0) had compatibility problems and is
 no longer available.  The good news is that I ran 1.2.0 through the
 converter at  and archived the
 results.  If you want a copy, let me know.
>>>
>>> Oh wow, I didn't know you left PreBar button. I reported this issue in
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26405 and got an answer. It
>>> looks like MANY of its features are going away because of Firefox v57 as
>>> shown in http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/migration.html ... :(
>>
>> Do you or don't you want the converted "Expire history by days" extension?
> 
> Oops. Yes, please post it online so others and I can get it. :)
> 

It is at
.  I
will remove that from my Web server in about a month.

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Re: WEB Ctrl D

2017-08-11 Thread WaltS48

On 8/11/17 2:31 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
I had Ctrl D set to open to a list of bookmark folders rather than just 
headers.  It got reset to default - takes an extra button to see folders 
- and I can't find the switch.  Where is it?


TY
Ray


Um, maybe removed in your SeaMonkey 2.50.

Haven't heard of that key combination to open a set of bookmarks. In 
Firefox it is used to bookmark a page.


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Re: Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 8/11/2017 1:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/11/2017 8:04 AM, Ant wrote:

On 8/11/2017 7:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/11/2017 12:27 AM, Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:

 > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
 > History Button from

 and import it
into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the .xpi
file before importing.


Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
PrefBar button. :)



No, no, no!

30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.

SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.


Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was
fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly
confirm this too on theirs too? :(

Thank you in advance. :)



You quoted newsgroup messages that are 5 years old.  Since then, I moved
the Expire History button from Eabled Items in PrefBar to Available
Items.  I then installed the "Expire history by days" extension.

There is good news and bad news about "Expire history by days".  The bad
news is that the current version (1.3.1) cannot work with SeaMonkey and
that the last "good" version (1.2.0) had compatibility problems and is
no longer available.  The good news is that I ran 1.2.0 through the
converter at  and archived the
results.  If you want a copy, let me know.


Oh wow, I didn't know you left PreBar button. I reported this issue in
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26405 and got an answer. It
looks like MANY of its features are going away because of Firefox v57 as
shown in http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/migration.html ... :(


Do you or don't you want the converted "Expire history by days" extension?


Oops. Yes, please post it online so others and I can get it. :)
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Re: Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/2017 8:04 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 8/11/2017 7:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/11/2017 12:27 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:
>
>  > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
>  > History Button from
>>  and import it
>> into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
>> of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the .xpi
>> file before importing.
>
> Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
> enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
> PrefBar button. :)
>

 No, no, no!

 30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.

 SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
 history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.
>>>
>>> Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was
>>> fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly
>>> confirm this too on theirs too? :(
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>
>> You quoted newsgroup messages that are 5 years old.  Since then, I moved
>> the Expire History button from Eabled Items in PrefBar to Available
>> Items.  I then installed the "Expire history by days" extension.
>>
>> There is good news and bad news about "Expire history by days".  The bad
>> news is that the current version (1.3.1) cannot work with SeaMonkey and
>> that the last "good" version (1.2.0) had compatibility problems and is
>> no longer available.  The good news is that I ran 1.2.0 through the
>> converter at  and archived the
>> results.  If you want a copy, let me know.
> 
> Oh wow, I didn't know you left PreBar button. I reported this issue in 
> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26405 and got an answer. It 
> looks like MANY of its features are going away because of Firefox v57 as 
> shown in http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/migration.html ... :(
> 

Do you or don't you want the converted "Expire history by days" extension?

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WEB Ctrl D

2017-08-11 Thread Ray Davison
I had Ctrl D set to open to a list of bookmark folders rather than just 
headers.  It got reset to default - takes an extra button to see folders 
- and I can't find the switch.  Where is it?


TY
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Re:  confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear

2017-08-11 Thread Ed Mullen

On 8/11/17 at 12:53 PM, Ed Mullen created this epitome of digital genius:
On 8/11/17 at 12:29 AM, Rainer Bielefeld created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Hi,

anybody here who also observed the problem described in 
?




Oddly enough, I have one account out of 8 email accts that does not show 
the green arrow when there are new messages in it.  All others do.  All 
accts are IMAP, 4, including the one that doesn't show the arrow, are on 
the same mail server (mine).  The only difference in that one is that 
its data is on a different drive than the SM profile.




Meant to add, Windows 10 Pro.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.51


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Re:  confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear

2017-08-11 Thread Ed Mullen
On 8/11/17 at 12:29 AM, Rainer Bielefeld created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Hi,

anybody here who also observed the problem described in 
?




Oddly enough, I have one account out of 8 email accts that does not show 
the green arrow when there are new messages in it.  All others do.  All 
accts are IMAP, 4, including the one that doesn't show the arrow, are on 
the same mail server (mine).  The only difference in that one is that 
its data is on a different drive than the SM profile.


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Re: Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 8/11/2017 7:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/11/2017 12:27 AM, Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:

 > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
 > History Button from

 and import it
into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the .xpi
file before importing.


Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
PrefBar button. :)



No, no, no!

30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.

SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.


Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was
fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly
confirm this too on theirs too? :(

Thank you in advance. :)



You quoted newsgroup messages that are 5 years old.  Since then, I moved
the Expire History button from Eabled Items in PrefBar to Available
Items.  I then installed the "Expire history by days" extension.

There is good news and bad news about "Expire history by days".  The bad
news is that the current version (1.3.1) cannot work with SeaMonkey and
that the last "good" version (1.2.0) had compatibility problems and is
no longer available.  The good news is that I ran 1.2.0 through the
converter at  and archived the
results.  If you want a copy, let me know.


Oh wow, I didn't know you left PreBar button. I reported this issue in 
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=26405 and got an answer. It 
looks like MANY of its features are going away because of Firefox v57 as 
shown in http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/migration.html ... :(

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Re: Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/11/2017 12:27 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:
>>>
>>>  > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
>>>  > History Button from
  and import it
 into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
 of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the .xpi
 file before importing.
>>>
>>> Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
>>> enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
>>> PrefBar button. :)
>>>
>>
>> No, no, no!
>>
>> 30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.
>>
>> SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
>> history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.
> 
> Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was 
> fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly 
> confirm this too on theirs too? :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

You quoted newsgroup messages that are 5 years old.  Since then, I moved
the Expire History button from Eabled Items in PrefBar to Available
Items.  I then installed the "Expire history by days" extension.

There is good news and bad news about "Expire history by days".  The bad
news is that the current version (1.3.1) cannot work with SeaMonkey and
that the last "good" version (1.2.0) had compatibility problems and is
no longer available.  The good news is that I ran 1.2.0 through the
converter at  and archived the
results.  If you want a copy, let me know.

-- 
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of Congress.  I always thought that members of Congress -- House
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Re:  confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear

2017-08-11 Thread WaltS48

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

anybody here who also observed the problem described in
?



I created a couple of new folders and filters to move messages from the 
Inbox to them.


The Bugs folder has the green arrow for the new messages I just 
received. Five new messages in the folder.


When I go back to the Inbox, the arrow clears and the messages in the 
Bugs folder are no longer marked as New.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48

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Re:  confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear

2017-08-11 Thread WaltS48

On 8/11/17 12:29 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

anybody here who also observed the problem described in 
?




In my SeaMonkey, I only have a single Inbox, would have to create some 
folders and filters to test this, then wait for new mail. My account and 
its Inbox do have the green arrow.


Wouldn't the folders the reporter mentions as not having the green arrow 
be in bold font when those folders receive new messages?


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Did SM v2.48 break your PrefBar's expire history button? (was Re: Where's the settings for history and cache?)

2017-08-11 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 7/15/2012 2:01 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/15/12 10:19 AM, Ant wrote:

On 7/15/2012 10:16 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:

 > Do you have the PrefBar extension installed?  If so, get the Expire
 > History Button from

 and import it
into PrefBar.  While the default is 30 days, you can set another number
of days.  To change the default, you can also download and edit the .xpi
file before importing.


Ah thanks. Yes, I do. So SM v2.10.1 uses 30 days by default. That's good
enough for me then. If I need to change that, then I will get that
PrefBar button. :)



No, no, no!

30 days is the default in PrefBar's Expire History Button.

SM 2.10.1 uses the Mozilla Toolkit, which only controls the size of the
history SQLite database, purging old entries when the database gets full.


Uh oh. I think v2.48 broke this PrefBar's expire history button. It was 
fine with v2.46 and earlier. Can any other PrefBar users please kindly 
confirm this too on theirs too? :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re:  confirmation: [Bug 1378249] - New message flag (green arrow) does not appear

2017-08-11 Thread Felix Miata
Rainer Bielefeld composed on 2017-08-11 06:29 (UTC+0200):

> anybody here who also observed the problem described in 
> ?

Cannot reproduce, all is as expected here with about 200 incoming messages per
day in KDE3 with Mozilla.org's GTK2
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