Re: github troubles

[Ant]

On 8/25/2019 9:24 PM, Ronnie wrote:
While github works with seamonkey for the most part I did discover a 
problem that I was wonder if anyone figured out a work around for... I 
posted an 'issue' with a particular app on github and everything 
worked/posted as was expected.. however when I went to edit my question 
I couldn't... the buttons to do so simply didn't work... strangely pale 
moon worked fine...


Has anyone encountered this problem recently? If so, is there anything 
that resolves it using seamonkey?


Yes, I had this problem. I had to use the (new/lat)est Firefox web 
browser. :(

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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

user@domain.invalid wrote:

Jeff Wisnia wrote:

I just can't believe this...

I set up Seamonkey in my second Windows computer with eggzackly the same
info as my first computer.

I can receive emails on Seamonkey on that computer but when I try to
send one a box with an error message pops up on the screen. It reads:

"An error occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect
greeting:  +OK Dovecot ready.."

Anyone know what that means? I have no idea what a Dovecot is.

What should I try changing in the POP setup now?

Thanks Again,

Jeff


Google: Dovecot

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github troubles

[Ronnie]

While github works with seamonkey for the most part I did discover a 
problem that I was wonder if anyone figured out a work around for... I 
posted an 'issue' with a particular app on github and everything 
worked/posted as was expected.. however when I went to edit my question 
I couldn't... the buttons to do so simply didn't work... strangely pale 
moon worked fine...


Has anyone encountered this problem recently? If so, is there anything 
that resolves it using seamonkey?


thanks
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Re: Past visited links aren't disappearing in my SM's history.

[Ant]

On 8/25/2019 9:33 AM, Ant wrote:

On 8/25/2019 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/25/2019 2:05 AM, Ant wrote:

On 8/23/2019 4:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

.
Unless I hear otherwise, I will remove it from my Web site on 6 
September.


It is not MY extension.  I merely used
 to convert it from Firefox
compatibility to SeaMonkey compatibility.

Without the extension, the oldest history entries are deleted when the
places.sqlite database is filled.  The database has a fixed size of 
10Mb.


Once the extension is installed, use [Tools > Adons Manager >
Extensions] to display the list of extensions.  Scroll down to the
"Expire history by days" extension, and select the Options button.
There is an input area for "Expire visits older than these days".

If you have exceedingly many bookmarks, set a very large number of 
days,

or check the "Disable Places expiration" checkbox, I am not sure what
happens when the places.sqlite database is filled.  I strongly suspect
that, if the checkbox is not checked, the automatic deletion of oldest
history entries will occur even if the specified number of days has not
been reached.  If the checkbox is checked, I suspect the database will
grow greater than 10Mb until entries are deleted when they are older
than the specified number of days; once that happens, the database will
not then shrink unless you manually vacuum the database or you use
SpeedyFox (which vacuums all indicated .sqlite databases).


Thanks! Hmm. I just backed up my places.sqlite, installed your
extension, and did some simple tests like 30 days, 28 days, and 1 day.
Nothing seems to be changing since I still see 7/26/2019 12:00 AM as my
oldest entry that I manually purged before using this extension. How do
I manually vacuum the database without SpeedyFox? I tried SpeedyFox.
File sizes did shrink, but I still see old entries for like 1 day. :(


I noticed some time ago that the extension is not perfect.  I have the
number of days set to 30, but it seems to purge at 31.

My test this morning involved merely selecting [Go > History] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar and then selecting [View > Group by > None] on the
History window menu bar.  When I then select the Last Visited column
button, the oldest entry was 23 July 2019, which is 31 days ago.

This is still better than not having the extension.


Hmm. Yeah, I'm not seeing them removed even with 1 day only. I view my 
history by newest (top) to old (bottom) dates. Since it is not working 
for me, I guess I will stick the old method of manually deleting old 
entries. :(


Wait. It seems to be working but very slow to purge entries?
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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[jwisnia]

Yeah, the last post was from me, I forgot to enter my email addy correctly.
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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[user]

Jeff Wisnia wrote:

I just can't believe this...

I set up Seamonkey in my second Windows computer with eggzackly the same 
info as my first computer.


I can receive emails on Seamonkey on that computer but when I try to 
send one a box with an error message pops up on the screen. It reads:


"An error occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect 
greeting:  +OK Dovecot ready.."


Anyone know what that means? I have no idea what a Dovecot is.

What should I try changing in the POP setup now?

Thanks Again,

Jeff
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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[Jeff Wisnia]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jeff Wisnia wrote:


Well, I'm halfway there now.

I can SEND email from Seamonkey now thanks to the info I've received 
from you on this newsgroup. But I still can't receive emails sent to 
my email address.


I could use a little more help about where in Seamonkey I need to go 
to properly enter the items needed to get back to receiving emails 
sent to my email address again..


Incoming mail:
Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | (account name) | Server 
Settings.


Outgoing mail:
Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP) 
Settings




Thanks to all, I've now got both the sending and receiving of emails 
working on Seamonkey again. I'm going to print images of the setup 
screens and store them where I can find them in case this ever happens 
to me again in the future.


Don't know why I was having so much trouble with this, I've been using 
and programming computers since1956 when I had a student job while at 
MIT working with the bighuge vacuum tube/magcore memory Whirlwind 
computer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlwind_I


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Re: Google Earth

[WaltS48]

On 8/25/19 3:01 PM, batroo...@gmail.com wrote:


Running win 10 on a Dell 530s desktop.
I have been trying to load GE from a new download. I get the message that "This app 
cannot run on your PC" I have also tried a new version of Google Earth Pro with 
similar results.
The closest I got was GE open with the side bar and the portion that should 
contain an image of the Earth but it is all black, no planet earth. If I enter 
a location it does nothing at all.
Is there a way to get Google Earth or even Google Earth Pro up and running on 
my PC? Thank you.



Are you asking for SeaMonkey or Windows support?

See: 



If it is Windows support that website is over here 



and Google Earth Help is here 



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Google Earth

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Running win 10 on a Dell 530s desktop. 
I have been trying to load GE from a new download. I get the message that "This 
app cannot run on your PC" I have also tried a new version of Google Earth Pro 
with similar results. 
The closest I got was GE open with the side bar and the portion that should 
contain an image of the Earth but it is all black, no planet earth. If I enter 
a location it does nothing at all. 
Is there a way to get Google Earth or even Google Earth Pro up and running on 
my PC? Thank you.
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Re: Past visited links aren't disappearing in my SM's history.

[Ant]

On 8/25/2019 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/25/2019 2:05 AM, Ant wrote:

On 8/23/2019 4:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...

.
Unless I hear otherwise, I will remove it from my Web site on 6 September.

It is not MY extension.  I merely used
 to convert it from Firefox
compatibility to SeaMonkey compatibility.

Without the extension, the oldest history entries are deleted when the
places.sqlite database is filled.  The database has a fixed size of 10Mb.

Once the extension is installed, use [Tools > Adons Manager >
Extensions] to display the list of extensions.  Scroll down to the
"Expire history by days" extension, and select the Options button.
There is an input area for "Expire visits older than these days".

If you have exceedingly many bookmarks, set a very large number of days,
or check the "Disable Places expiration" checkbox, I am not sure what
happens when the places.sqlite database is filled.  I strongly suspect
that, if the checkbox is not checked, the automatic deletion of oldest
history entries will occur even if the specified number of days has not
been reached.  If the checkbox is checked, I suspect the database will
grow greater than 10Mb until entries are deleted when they are older
than the specified number of days; once that happens, the database will
not then shrink unless you manually vacuum the database or you use
SpeedyFox (which vacuums all indicated .sqlite databases).


Thanks! Hmm. I just backed up my places.sqlite, installed your
extension, and did some simple tests like 30 days, 28 days, and 1 day.
Nothing seems to be changing since I still see 7/26/2019 12:00 AM as my
oldest entry that I manually purged before using this extension. How do
I manually vacuum the database without SpeedyFox? I tried SpeedyFox.
File sizes did shrink, but I still see old entries for like 1 day. :(


I noticed some time ago that the extension is not perfect.  I have the
number of days set to 30, but it seems to purge at 31.

My test this morning involved merely selecting [Go > History] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar and then selecting [View > Group by > None] on the
History window menu bar.  When I then select the Last Visited column
button, the oldest entry was 23 July 2019, which is 31 days ago.

This is still better than not having the extension.


Hmm. Yeah, I'm not seeing them removed even with 1 day only. I view my 
history by newest (top) to old (bottom) dates. Since it is not working 
for me, I guess I will stick the old method of manually deleting old 
entries. :(

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Re: Past visited links aren't disappearing in my SM's history.

[David E. Ross]

On 8/25/2019 2:05 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 8/23/2019 4:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> ...
>  > .
>> Unless I hear otherwise, I will remove it from my Web site on 6 September.
>>
>> It is not MY extension.  I merely used
>>  to convert it from Firefox
>> compatibility to SeaMonkey compatibility.
>>
>> Without the extension, the oldest history entries are deleted when the
>> places.sqlite database is filled.  The database has a fixed size of 10Mb.
>>
>> Once the extension is installed, use [Tools > Adons Manager >
>> Extensions] to display the list of extensions.  Scroll down to the
>> "Expire history by days" extension, and select the Options button.
>> There is an input area for "Expire visits older than these days".
>>
>> If you have exceedingly many bookmarks, set a very large number of days,
>> or check the "Disable Places expiration" checkbox, I am not sure what
>> happens when the places.sqlite database is filled.  I strongly suspect
>> that, if the checkbox is not checked, the automatic deletion of oldest
>> history entries will occur even if the specified number of days has not
>> been reached.  If the checkbox is checked, I suspect the database will
>> grow greater than 10Mb until entries are deleted when they are older
>> than the specified number of days; once that happens, the database will
>> not then shrink unless you manually vacuum the database or you use
>> SpeedyFox (which vacuums all indicated .sqlite databases).
> 
> Thanks! Hmm. I just backed up my places.sqlite, installed your 
> extension, and did some simple tests like 30 days, 28 days, and 1 day. 
> Nothing seems to be changing since I still see 7/26/2019 12:00 AM as my 
> oldest entry that I manually purged before using this extension. How do 
> I manually vacuum the database without SpeedyFox? I tried SpeedyFox. 
> File sizes did shrink, but I still see old entries for like 1 day. :(
> 

I noticed some time ago that the extension is not perfect.  I have the
number of days set to 30, but it seems to purge at 31.

My test this morning involved merely selecting [Go > History] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar and then selecting [View > Group by > None] on the
History window menu bar.  When I then select the Last Visited column
button, the oldest entry was 23 July 2019, which is 31 days ago.

This is still better than not having the extension.

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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

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On 8/25/19 2:45 AM, Michael Garibaldi wrote:

Jeff Wisnia  wrote in news:8JadnVE3w-
djn__anz2dnuu7-chnn...@mozilla.org:


WaltS48 wrote:


I just created my Comcast POP3 account in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Linux
and had no problem receiving or sending mail.

The correct settings for POP copied from my Thunderbird are:

Incoming

Server name: mail.comcast.net
User Name: your email address
Port; 995
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal Password

  


I've just had a look at the Xfinity site and the settings people have
been providing are correct for IMAP but you're talking about POP. From
what I've read the correct settings for a POP account are:

POP Server: pop3.comcast.net
Port: 995 (That is POP with SSL - They don't say TLS or STARTTLS so try
SSL first)
Username: The implication is that it should be you full email address
but, if that doesn't work, try just the part of your email address before
the @ symbol.



The settings provided by the ISPDB from Mozilla when Thunderbird 
automatically creates the Comcast account using the setup wizard 
provides the POP3 server as "mail.comcast.net".


I used those settings to manually create my account in SeaMonkey and 
that server name works for receiving messages.


Don't believe everything you read on ISP websites.

ISPDB is the Mozilla ISP Database.

In Thunderbird you enter your Name, Email address and password click 
"Next" and all the correct data is found from the database and entered 
for you. Click "Done" and both Incoming and Outgoing (SMTP) servers are 
added for you.


Screenshot 

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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jeff Wisnia wrote:


Well, I'm halfway there now.

I can SEND email from Seamonkey now thanks to the info I've received 
from you on this newsgroup. But I still can't receive emails sent to my 
email address.


I could use a little more help about where in Seamonkey I need to go to 
properly enter the items needed to get back to receiving emails sent to 
my email address again..


Incoming mail:
Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | (account name) | Server Settings.

Outgoing mail:
Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP) Settings

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Re: Required skill set for volunteers - was [Re: next version expected when?]

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2019 03:35 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2019 08:07 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Recently there are also a ton of bugs with website x does not work with 
SeaMonkey y while Firefox z works fine. I generally gave up commenting in 
them because I don't have time to check every bad website against SeaMonkey 
and these are mostly support cases not bugs. And usually it is the website. 
So would help to do some verification here too.


I don't see how the links below guide to bug reports of "website x does not 
work with SeaMonkey y ...". I've never used a bug reporting system. My 
problems are typically of the PEBKAC variety ;/




These are all bug reports. There are a log of unconfirmed ones. New or 
assigned is something either known or in the works.


Also, I don't have a recent Windows machine. Does SeaMonkey work well enough 
with WINE to verify if a site does work? Exploring WINE was already on my ToDo 
list.




I don't know. Probably not because it uses the latest compiler from Microsoft 
in our case or the latest clang in Bills case. If yiu want to play with other 
OS look into VMs. Virtualbox is really nice. Do most of my Linux testing there 
under Windows and also with different Windows versions. CPU needs to support 
hardware virtualization but 99% do nowadays.


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Re: Past visited links aren't disappearing in my SM's history.

[Ant]

On 8/23/2019 4:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...
> .

Unless I hear otherwise, I will remove it from my Web site on 6 September.

It is not MY extension.  I merely used
 to convert it from Firefox
compatibility to SeaMonkey compatibility.

Without the extension, the oldest history entries are deleted when the
places.sqlite database is filled.  The database has a fixed size of 10Mb.

Once the extension is installed, use [Tools > Adons Manager >
Extensions] to display the list of extensions.  Scroll down to the
"Expire history by days" extension, and select the Options button.
There is an input area for "Expire visits older than these days".

If you have exceedingly many bookmarks, set a very large number of days,
or check the "Disable Places expiration" checkbox, I am not sure what
happens when the places.sqlite database is filled.  I strongly suspect
that, if the checkbox is not checked, the automatic deletion of oldest
history entries will occur even if the specified number of days has not
been reached.  If the checkbox is checked, I suspect the database will
grow greater than 10Mb until entries are deleted when they are older
than the specified number of days; once that happens, the database will
not then shrink unless you manually vacuum the database or you use
SpeedyFox (which vacuums all indicated .sqlite databases).


Thanks! Hmm. I just backed up my places.sqlite, installed your 
extension, and did some simple tests like 30 days, 28 days, and 1 day. 
Nothing seems to be changing since I still see 7/26/2019 12:00 AM as my 
oldest entry that I manually purged before using this extension. How do 
I manually vacuum the database without SpeedyFox? I tried SpeedyFox. 
File sizes did shrink, but I still see old entries for like 1 day. :(

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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

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jwisni...@comcast.net wrote on 25/08/2019 6:06 AM:

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 12:29:31 AM UTC-4, Paul in Houston,
TX wrote:


Did you change the POP server or SMTP server? POP outgoing SMTP is
usually 465 with SSL/TLS. POP incoming is usually 995 with
SSL/TLS.

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/email-client-programs-with-xfinity-email





I've tried those, but still can't send or receive email with
Seamonkey. I keep getting messages telling me the server can't be
reached. I don't think it is a problem with my Xfinity-Comcast
internet access as everything else I use including newsgroups works
OK. More suggestions would be apprecited as Comcast's support folks
tell me they don't support Seamonkey.

Don't mention SeaMonkey! Tell them it's FireFox or (as it's mail you're 
dealing with) Thunderbird. FF & TB have/had the preferences under 
Tools/Options or some such.


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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

[Michael Garibaldi]

Jeff Wisnia  wrote in news:8JadnVE3w-
djn__anz2dnuu7-chnn...@mozilla.org:

> WaltS48 wrote:
>>
>> I just created my Comcast POP3 account in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Linux 
>> and had no problem receiving or sending mail.
>>
>> The correct settings for POP copied from my Thunderbird are:
>>
>> Incoming
>>
>> Server name: mail.comcast.net
>> User Name: your email address
>> Port; 995
>> Connection security: SSL/TLS
>> Authentication method: Normal Password
>>
 

I've just had a look at the Xfinity site and the settings people have 
been providing are correct for IMAP but you're talking about POP. From 
what I've read the correct settings for a POP account are:

POP Server: pop3.comcast.net
Port: 995 (That is POP with SSL - They don't say TLS or STARTTLS so try 
SSL first)
Username: The implication is that it should be you full email address 
but, if that doesn't work, try just the part of your email address before 
the @ symbol.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Xfinity show the POP server as pop3.comcast.net NOT 
pop.comcast.net (Sorry if I sound like I'm shouting but this is an 
important difference).

Also, as long as they stick to the POP, IMAP and SMTP standards, it 
really make no difference which email client you use. Since they support 
Thunderbird they also support SeaMonkey (even if they say they don't) as 
both use the same internals from Mozilla.

I hope this helps fix your problem.

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