Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

2020-01-22 Thread NFN Smith

Ant wrote:
Hmm in clean SM v2.53.1b1 installation in a clean updated 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1 VM, I couldn't find many addons like uBlock Origin, PrefBar, 
ColorfulTabs, etc. in SM's Add-ons Manager to download. Do I have to get 
them directly from their official web sites? FYI from my old v2.49.5 
installatios:


Extensions (enabled: 6)
* ColorfulTabs 31.1.9 (http://www.addongenie.com/colorfultabs)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.17.2 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Expire history by days [converted] 1.2.0
* Open With 6.8.6 (https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith)
* PrefBar 7.1.1 (http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/)
* uBlock Origin 1.16.4.12 (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)



If you can find these links, you should be good.

Beyond that, if you haven't done so already, consider the Classic 
Add-ons Archive: https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases.


The downloads there are a fairly extensive (although not totally 
complete) collection of what used to be hosted at AMO.  When you install 
that in Seamonkey, then you can put:caa:list   in the address bar, 
allowing you to browse extensions, in the same way they were hosted at 
AMO.  Install what you find interesting.  There's 19,000+ titles there.


Smith

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

2020-01-22 Thread NFN Smith

David E. Ross wrote:

Does the old PrefBar extension still work with 2.53.1?  If so, I have a
PrefBar button that launches Bookmarks Manager by requesting
toBookmarksManager();
What is the replacement for that?  Do other modules have new names?


I have PrefBar 7.1.1 running in 2.53.2 beta 1 pre (Build ID 
20200106130007), and not having any problems.  I'm not running any 
modules, so I can't comment on that.


For this kind of thing, if you want to take a look at the newest version 
without disrupting your current installation, something that is doable 
is to install to a non-default directory, and then run with a profile 
that you use only with the testing version.  Although it's easier to do 
this kind of testing in a virtual machine, I have done it before where I 
run separate versions side-by-side.


If you do this, there's several caveats, and you want to work carefully, 
primarily in making sure that your working version and the testing 
version are installed in different directories, and you're using 
separate profiles for each version. It's not essential, but not a bad 
idea, either, to refrain from having both versions open at the same time.


And when in doubt, always make sure you have current backups of your 
primary profile... :-)


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Re: Is there a way to filter in ALL newsgroups on an usenet server?

2020-01-22 Thread Ant

On 1/22/2020 2:27 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 22/01/20 08:40, GerardJan wrote:
...> 


I do not use filters, if I don't want to see a message then i put it 
in junkmail, works like a champ !


But not for newsgroups, where the "Mark>As Junk" function is not 
enabled, which is the point of the thread !!


I was not marking them as spams. I just wanted to hide all posts from 
not...@thefork.com e-mail addresses.

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Re: SM 2.53.1b1 file bookmark

2020-01-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Ray Davison wrote:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Build identifier: 20191229191834

Ctrl-D (file bookmark) opens with the window truncated on the right side.  
Unable to streach it to normal.  Add button is cut off and so unavailable, 
show stopper.  Anyone else?


Ray


Never seen it in Windows. Delete xulstore.json.from you profile and see if it 
gets better. Also try safe mode or a new test profile to make sure it is not 
add-on or theme related (if you use a third party one).


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SM 2.53.1b1 file bookmark

2020-01-22 Thread Ray Davison
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Build identifier: 20191229191834

Ctrl-D (file bookmark) opens with the window truncated on the right 
side.  Unable to streach it to normal.  Add button is cut off and so 
unavailable, show stopper.  Anyone else?


Ray
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Re: SeaMonkey mail slow since move to Windows 10

2020-01-22 Thread WaltS48 via support-seamonkey

On 1/22/20 1:13 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
I recently moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (fresh install on the 
same hardware, not an in-place upgrade since I wanted to get rid of 
all the crap) and now pretty much every time I open SeaMonkey mail, 
SeaMonkey slows down and stops responding. This never happened on 
Windows 7.


Anyone got any ideas why it could be happening? Something to do with 
the MS Antivirus thing in Windows 10?



You nailed it!

Make an exception in Windows Defender so it doesn't scan SeaMonkey mail.

I did that for my Thunderbird and it improved a lot. Sorry, I don't 
remember how to do it.


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Re: CaCert root certificates not in SeaMonkey distribution

2020-01-22 Thread Dirk Munk via support-seamonkey

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Dirk Munk wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which version?

2.53, 64 bit, build 20190917130005




Dirk Munk wrote:
The CaCert root certificates are not in the SeaMonkey distribution. 
That's a bit sad if you want to use their mail certificates for 
instance, or if web sites use CaCert certifcates. Can the 
developers add these root certificates please?




> 2.53, 64 bit, build 20190917130005

Ancient. Please update to 2.53.1 beta 1 or the unofficial 2.53.2 pre. 
These have the latest NSS Releases included.


FRG

Updated to 2.53.2 beta 1, seems to be fine. I guess 2.57 is a bit too 
adventurous ?

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Re: CaCert root certificates not in SeaMonkey distribution

2020-01-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl




Dirk Munk wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which version?

2.53, 64 bit, build 20190917130005




Dirk Munk wrote:
The CaCert root certificates are not in the SeaMonkey distribution. That's 
a bit sad if you want to use their mail certificates for instance, or if 
web sites use CaCert certifcates. Can the developers add these root 
certificates please?




> 2.53, 64 bit, build 20190917130005

Ancient. Please update to 2.53.1 beta 1 or the unofficial 2.53.2 pre. These 
have the latest NSS Releases included.


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Re: Is there a way to filter in ALL newsgroups on an usenet server?

2020-01-22 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote on 22/01/2020 7:05 PM:

On 1/21/2020 9:34 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/01/2020 8:55 PM:

On 1/21/2020 12:40 AM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/01/2020 4:08 PM:
I wanted to delete all newsgroup posts from not...@thefork.com. It 
only seems to let me put specific folder (aka newsgroups).


Thank you for reading andhopefully answering soon. :)


Ant, I just checked (and created a filter for 'Support TheFork') and 
applied it to this entire server.


If you click on "Filters for:" on the Message Filters screen, you 
should get a list of all the newsgroups you subscribe to on a 
server, and then a listing of each of the News Server Accounts. If 
you select the appropriate Server Name, then you can select a 
particular group to apply the filter to, or at the top of the list 
of groups, you should see the Account name listed.


Selecting the Account name on the groups listing, you apply the 
filter to all the groups you subscribe to on that server.


Ah, thanks. I can't use right click on post's From: Email Address 
method since I don't see that option. I can't even change it after it 
is added. I have to use the "Mail & Newsgroup"'s Tools -> Message 
Filters menu instead to do that.


Sorry, Ant, I don't quite follow!!

If, in SeaMonkey Mail & News screen, I click on Tools->Message Filters 
then I get the Message Filters screen that I mentioned above. Then I 
click on "Filters for" and select the (in this case) "Mozilla" 
account, then select "Mozilla" (i.e. all the groups that I have on the 
Mozilla Server Account), and then I set up what I want to call the 
filter and what I want the filter to do!!


Here's an example with your post setting it up I was trying to do: 
https://imgur.com/a/JtfA4we. So, right click on From:  
to "Create Filter From..." Set up the filter and OK it. And then, check 
for its filter. You will see it is NOT in news.mozilla.org usenet 
server, but it is under its mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup. It does 
not seem to let me put it under news.mozilla.org with this way. I have 
to use your manual steps. :(


Ant, to read this post, in your Mail & News Screen, you must have 
selected this News Group and then selected this message.


Right??

If so, now select 'Tools' in the top line. Then, on that drop-down, 
select 'Message Filters".


A new screen should open up, and in the top left of that screen is the 
"Filters for:" and, at the moment it will show 
'mozilla.support.seamonkey. Click the down-arrow. That should give you a 
listing of the various Mail & News accounts (including Local Folder) 
that you have.


Select whatever you call the Account for the Mozilla Server!! That 
should give you a listing of all the groups that you subscribe to on 
this Server and, *at the top of the list* , is the Server Name. If you 
want your filter to apply to all the groups on this Server, select the 
Server named at the top of the list.


Then, in the next screen (the one shown in your pic), you set up what 
you want to call this filter and what you want to do with it!!


Job done . Hopefully!!
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Re: SeaMonkey mail slow since move to Windows 10

2020-01-22 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
I recently moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (fresh install on the same 
hardware, not an in-place upgrade since I wanted to get rid of all the 
crap) and now pretty much every time I open SeaMonkey mail, SeaMonkey 
slows down and stops responding. This never happened on Windows 7.


Anyone got any ideas why it could be happening? Something to do with the 
MS Antivirus thing in Windows 10?




I moved from Win 7 to Win 10 about 6-12 months after Win 10 came out 
although I can't remember what form that "upgrade" took.  I have no such 
problems.
The machine is generally slow (not enough memory, Intel processor with 
exploit mitigation, HDD rather than SSD) but Seamonkey Mail behaves as 
it should.


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Re: Is there a way to filter in ALL newsgroups on an usenet server?

2020-01-22 Thread Daniel

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 22/01/2020 9:27 PM:

On 22/01/20 08:40, GerardJan wrote:
...> 


I do not use filters, if I don't want to see a message then i put it 
in junkmail, works like a champ !


But not for newsgroups, where the "Mark>As Junk" function is not 
enabled, which is the point of the thread !!


/df


Thank you!

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Re: CaCert root certificates not in SeaMonkey distribution

2020-01-22 Thread Dirk Munk via support-seamonkey

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Which version?

2.53, 64 bit, build 20190917130005




Dirk Munk wrote:
The CaCert root certificates are not in the SeaMonkey distribution. 
That's a bit sad if you want to use their mail certificates for 
instance, or if web sites use CaCert certifcates. Can the developers 
add these root certificates please?


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Re: CaCert root certificates not in SeaMonkey distribution

2020-01-22 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Which version?

Dirk Munk wrote:
The CaCert root certificates are not in the SeaMonkey distribution. That's a 
bit sad if you want to use their mail certificates for instance, or if web 
sites use CaCert certifcates. Can the developers add these root certificates 
please?

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CaCert root certificates not in SeaMonkey distribution

2020-01-22 Thread Dirk Munk via support-seamonkey
The CaCert root certificates are not in the SeaMonkey distribution. 
That's a bit sad if you want to use their mail certificates for 
instance, or if web sites use CaCert certifcates. Can the developers add 
these root certificates please?

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Re: Is there a way to filter in ALL newsgroups on an usenet server?

2020-01-22 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 22/01/20 08:40, GerardJan wrote:
...> 


I do not use filters, if I don't want to see a message then i put it in 
junkmail, works like a champ !


But not for newsgroups, where the "Mark>As Junk" function is not 
enabled, which is the point of the thread !!


/df

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Re: Is there a way to filter in ALL newsgroups on an usenet server?

2020-01-22 Thread Ant

On 1/21/2020 9:34 PM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/01/2020 8:55 PM:

On 1/21/2020 12:40 AM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 21/01/2020 4:08 PM:
I wanted to delete all newsgroup posts from not...@thefork.com. It 
only seems to let me put specific folder (aka newsgroups).


Thank you for reading andhopefully answering soon. :)


Ant, I just checked (and created a filter for 'Support TheFork') and 
applied it to this entire server.


If you click on "Filters for:" on the Message Filters screen, you 
should get a list of all the newsgroups you subscribe to on a server, 
and then a listing of each of the News Server Accounts. If you select 
the appropriate Server Name, then you can select a particular group 
to apply the filter to, or at the top of the list of groups, you 
should see the Account name listed.


Selecting the Account name on the groups listing, you apply the 
filter to all the groups you subscribe to on that server.


Ah, thanks. I can't use right click on post's From: Email Address 
method since I don't see that option. I can't even change it after it 
is added. I have to use the "Mail & Newsgroup"'s Tools -> Message 
Filters menu instead to do that.


Sorry, Ant, I don't quite follow!!

If, in SeaMonkey Mail & News screen, I click on Tools->Message Filters 
then I get the Message Filters screen that I mentioned above. Then I 
click on "Filters for" and select the (in this case) "Mozilla" account, 
then select "Mozilla" (i.e. all the groups that I have on the Mozilla 
Server Account), and then I set up what I want to call the filter and 
what I want the filter to do!!


Here's an example with your post setting it up I was trying to do: 
https://imgur.com/a/JtfA4we. So, right click on From:  
to "Create Filter From..." Set up the filter and OK it. And then, check 
for its filter. You will see it is NOT in news.mozilla.org usenet 
server, but it is under its mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup. It does 
not seem to let me put it under news.mozilla.org with this way. I have 
to use your manual steps. :(

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