Re: Some features of banking online of Banco Santander dont't work Was: login page of bancosantander doesn't work

2021-02-02 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2021-02-02, AndrésH wrote:

> AndrésH escribió:
>> AndrésH escribió:
>>> The login page of Santander banking online (
>>> https://particulares.bancosantander.es/login/) doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Any idea ? ( Version 2.53.5.1 )
>> Correction : works with version 2.53.6
>>
>>
> The problem is that some features of the web don't work in Seamonkey (
> and neither in Pale Moon )
>
> The rest in Spanish because only the  customers of of Banco Santander
> can reproduce the problem.
>
> Aparentemente la web parece funcionar hasta que seleccionar un recibo
> o movimiento en la sección de recibos domiciliados o en el apartado de
> buzón de correspondencia.
>  Se abre un pseudoventanita superpuesta con un indicador de que se
> está cargando los datos de un recibo o comunicación , pero no aparece
> nada.
>
> En Firefox eso no ocurre.
>
> Si hay algún responsable de la web del Santander que pueda explicar lo
> que pasa.

(I apologize if this has already been mentioned elsewhere in this
thread:)

Can you check if, when this specific action happens (that is, when a
message appears and data are supposed to get loaded), there is any error
or other possibly related message shown in the error console or in the
browser console?

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Re: Help: SeaMonkey 2.53.5.1 released! All my passwords gone after update frum 2.53.3 to 2.53.5.1

2021-02-01 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2021-01-30, Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote:

> Edmund Wong schrieb:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
>> 2.53.5.1.
>>
>>
> Help !
> I upgraded from 2.53.3 to 2.53.5.1 – all my passwords are lost.

You are writing from 2.49.5. Any chance you have an old version you did
not uninstall?

[...]
> Worse of that, after the first start of the new version the other
> preferences seemed to be present.
> But after I closed SeaMonkey and opened it again - all my email
> accounts have disappeared up to one which I have not in use.
> So I think I will re-install the former version.
>
> Can you tell me where I can have an overview of the files to be saved
> if I want to restore SeaMonkey?
> On Windows 7 Pro I can find such files in the \user\AppData directories.
>
> Are there any othe relevant files in other directories ?
>
>
> I am using Windows 7 Pro SP 1 on an Intel processor.
>
> thanks for help
> Jochen
>

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Re: Chatzilla not functioning! SM 2.53.5.1

2020-12-17 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-12-16, Daniel wrote:

> I recently update my Windows 7 SM 2.49.5 (which I had set up to start
> Mail & Chatzilla) to 2.53.5.1 but, when I boot up, Chatzilla is not
> starting and is giving the error message 
>
> Quote
> XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
> Location: chrome://chatzilla/content/chatzilla.xul
> Line Number 84, Column 7:
>tooltiptext=""/>
> --^
> End Quote.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this??
>
> (I haven't installed the update on my Linux, yet. That adventure is
> yet to be had!! ;-) )

Do you have any SeaMonkey language pack installed? If so, check whether
all language packs are up to date.

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

2020-11-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-29, Daniel wrote:

> Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:
>>>>>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.dw.com/en/space-trash-cleanup-esa-signs-off-on-first-ever-mission/a-55740379>
[...]
>> Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
>> never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
>> Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
>> dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.
>>
> On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and
> click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the
> "Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me
> continue scrolling.
>
> On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually
> get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue
> scrolling.

This is as in your signature, a 32-bit build of 2.49.5?

>
> So I don't see any difference!!

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Re: SeaMonkey and Github

2020-11-27 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-27, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

> On 27/11/2020 14:12, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>> Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems that Github.com does not work with SM correctly in more
>>> frequently used features than before. ...
>>
>> For what it's worth, I've also noticed that trying to show hidden
>> lines in diffs no longer works either.  I suspect this is another
>> case of a site (GitHub in this case) using newer JavaScript features
>> which aren't implemented in SeaMonkey, and not providing polyfills
>> to provide those features when unavailable.
>
> In particular, the Custom Elements feature. You can provide a
> polyfill, eg using NoScript. I won't post the one I'm using here as
> it's 800+ lines of JS.
>
> /df

I haven't used this myself, but it has been mentioned in the SeaMonkey
IRC channel:

https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill


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Re: SM 2.53.5.1 under FreeBSD

2020-11-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-25, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

>> 
>> Just in case you haven't found it yet, this looks like what is reported
>> in bug 1677848:
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677848
>
>   I have delete #error line to test ans now, build process aborts much
> further :
>
>
> gmake[4]: Leaving directory
> '/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/toolkit/library/rust'
> gmake[4]: Entering directory
> '/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/js/ipc'
> mkdir -p '.deps/'
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/ipc/chromium/src/base/process_util_bsd.cc:44:57:
> error:
>   no member named 'environ' in 'base::LaunchOptions'
>   EnvironmentArray vars = BuildEnvironmentArray(options.environ);
> ~~~ ^
> 1 error generated.
>
>   JKB

For that one:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1678016

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Re: SM 2.53.5.1 under FreeBSD

2020-11-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-25, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

>   Hello,
>
>   I'm trying to build Semonkey on a FreeBSD workstation. I build for a
> long time seamonkey from sources without any trouble but this morning,
> compilation stage aborts with error :
>
> /usr/bin/clang++ -o nsReadableUtilsSSE2.o -c -fuse-ld=lld
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/stl_wrappers
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/system_wrappers
> -include /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/config/gcc_hidden.h
> -DNDEBUG=1 -DTRIMMED=1 -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API -DMOZ_HAS_MOZGLUE
> -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -DIMPL_LIBXUL
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/xpcom/string
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/xpcom/string
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/include
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/include/nspr
> -I/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/include/nss
> -fPIC -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/mozilla-config.h
> -Qunused-arguments -I/usr/local/include -Qunused-arguments -Wall
> -Wempty-body -Wignored-qualifiers -Woverloaded-virtual -Wpointer-arith
> -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wunreachable-code
> -Wunreachable-code-return -Wwrite-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof
> -Wclass-varargs -Wloop-analysis -Wc++1z-compat -Wcomma
> -Wimplicit-fallthrough -Wstring-conversion -Wno-inline-new-delete
> -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=array-bounds -Wformat
> -Wformat-security -Wno-gnu-zero-variadic-macro-arguments
> -Wno-unknown-warning-option -Wno-return-type-c-linkage -fno-exceptions
> -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-math-errno -pipe -g
> -O -fomit-frame-pointer  -MD -MP -MF .deps/nsReadableUtilsSSE2.o.pp
> -msse2
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/xpcom/string/nsReadableUtilsSSE2.cpp
> In file included from
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/xpcom/typelib/xpt/Unified_cpp_xpcom_typelib_xpt0.cpp:2:
> In file included from
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/xpt_arena.cpp:13:
> In file included from
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/xpt_arena.h:13:
> In file included from
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/system_wrappers/stdlib.h:3:
> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/stdlib.h:100:
> In file included from
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/system_wrappers/math.h:3:
> In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/math.h:311:
> /root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/obj-x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.2/dist/stl_wrappers/type_traits:54:6:
> error:
>   "STL code can only be used with infallible ::operator new()"
> #error "STL code can only be used with infallible ::operator new()"
>  ^
> 1 error generated.
> gmake[4]: ***
> [/root/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1/mozilla/config/rules.mk:1034:
> Unified_cpp_xpcom_typelib_xpt0.o] Error 1
>
>   I haven't found any recent explanation of this error.
>
>   My .mozconfig file contains :
>
> [root@pythagore ~/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1]# cat .mozconfig
> ac_add_options --enable-application=suite
> ac_add_options --enable-optimize
> ac_add_options --disable-debug
>
> and I build Semonkey with following line :
>
> [root@pythagore ~/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.53.5.1]# CC=clang CXX=clang++
> gmake -f client.mk
>
>   I cannot test with gcc/g++. Maybe Seamonkey can be built with these
> compilers as Seamonkey is not runnable for a long time when it is build
> with GNU compiler on FreeBSD.
>
>   Best regards,
>
>   JKB

Just in case you haven't found it yet, this looks like what is reported
in bug 1677848:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677848

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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

2020-11-22 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-22, RicklesP wrote:

> Mark, etc,
> Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and
> (?)successfully installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in
> the Add-On Mgr screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to
> select anywhere. Whether composing a new email or as the default
> language under Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in
> her SM v2.53.5 install is for the default English-US.  And of course,
> the link for 'add more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird
> add-ons download page, for what that's worth.
>
> I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't
> compose emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the
> point?  I've been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but
> I'm not a developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not
> programming.

Could you please try the following?:
1. Remove the currently installed dictionary (even if it is 2.68)
2. Restart SeaMonkey
3. Install 2.68
4. Restart SeaMonkey

After this, check if it does show up in
Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Spelling.

In a quick test here (with a build of 2.53.6beta1pre), I was able to get
to the point where 2.68 is listed as installed but is not shown as a
spell-checking language option, if I install a webextension version of
the dictionary and then install 2.68 without restarting SeaMonkey first.

(In my testing (when I skipped step 2 above), 2.68 did (at least some
times?) show up as an option and would work until I restarted SeaMonkey,
so make sure you check that it is still working *after* restarting
SeaMonkey.)

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Re: Javascript

2020-11-19 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-19, Yamo' wrote:

> Hi,
> G. Ross a tapoté le 19/11/2020 06:29:
>>> G. Ross, what's the weather web site? Do you have its exact URL you saw
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> https://www.13wmaz.com/radar
>> 
>
>
> Access denied whith Seamonkey and Chromium.

That looks like Akamai's blacklisting again.

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Re: Mail Attachments - Save All or Detach All under Linux

2020-11-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-18, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2020-11-18, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> On 2020-11-17, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have discovered this problem which occurs on two different machines
>>>> with two different versions of Seamonkey - 2.53.3 and 2.53.5 - under
>>>> OpenSuse.
>>>> Given a mail with multiple attachments, "Save All" or "Detach All"
>>>> starts a process which takes 100% of one processor but does otherwise
>>>> nothing.
>>>> If I Quit Seamonkey the process remains.
>>>> If I kill the process instead of Quitting Seamonkey, Seamonkey dies
>>>> with the process.
>>>> Saving the attachments individually works.
>>>>
>>>> I repeated the test on my Windows 10 machine - with 2.53.4 - and there
>>>> were no problems there.
>>>> Is this a Seamonkey/Linux problem or a Seamonkey/OpenSuse problem?
>>>
>>> Do you know which file picker is SeaMonkey using?
>>>
>>> What is the value of the ui.allow_platform_file_picker setting? (You can
>>> check that, for example, in about:config.)
>>>
>>> (What is the separate process that gets started?)
>>>
>>
>> ui.allow_platform_file_picker was set to false, that feels a bit weird.
>> I have no idea what the separate process is, "top -i" simply
>> identifies it as seamonkey.
>
> And is it really a separate process, and not the original seamonkey
> process? Could you please confirm this?
>
>> ok, setting ui.allow_platform_file_picker back to the default value is
>> as ugly as f*** but it works.  Thank you very muchly.
>>
>> I don't know why I had changed the value but it was probably either
>> something I read here - and which will have applied to an older level
>> - 
>> or (less likely) something which applied to Firefox.
>
> With that setting set to false, SeaMonkey uses the XUL file picker,
> which I can't use with directories / when saving multiple files
> (bug 1661070[1]), but I didn't see a separate process using 100% CPU
> (I'll check again).
>
> [1] http://bugzil.la/1661070

I don't see a new, separate process, but I see the high CPU usage (in
the seamonkey process) after doing Save As on multiple Mail
attachments using the XUL file picker.

This does not happen when I try to save multiple items in the Page Info
Media tab.

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Re: Mail Attachments - Save All or Detach All under Linux

2020-11-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-18, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2020-11-17, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>
>>> I have discovered this problem which occurs on two different machines
>>> with two different versions of Seamonkey - 2.53.3 and 2.53.5 - under
>>> OpenSuse.
>>> Given a mail with multiple attachments, "Save All" or "Detach All"
>>> starts a process which takes 100% of one processor but does otherwise
>>> nothing.
>>> If I Quit Seamonkey the process remains.
>>> If I kill the process instead of Quitting Seamonkey, Seamonkey dies
>>> with the process.
>>> Saving the attachments individually works.
>>>
>>> I repeated the test on my Windows 10 machine - with 2.53.4 - and there
>>> were no problems there.
>>> Is this a Seamonkey/Linux problem or a Seamonkey/OpenSuse problem?
>>
>> Do you know which file picker is SeaMonkey using?
>>
>> What is the value of the ui.allow_platform_file_picker setting? (You can
>> check that, for example, in about:config.)
>>
>> (What is the separate process that gets started?)
>>
>
> ui.allow_platform_file_picker was set to false, that feels a bit weird.
> I have no idea what the separate process is, "top -i" simply
> identifies it as seamonkey.

And is it really a separate process, and not the original seamonkey
process? Could you please confirm this?

> ok, setting ui.allow_platform_file_picker back to the default value is
> as ugly as f*** but it works.  Thank you very muchly.
>
> I don't know why I had changed the value but it was probably either
> something I read here - and which will have applied to an older level
> - 
> or (less likely) something which applied to Firefox.

With that setting set to false, SeaMonkey uses the XUL file picker,
which I can't use with directories / when saving multiple files
(bug 1661070[1]), but I didn't see a separate process using 100% CPU
(I'll check again).

[1] http://bugzil.la/1661070

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Re: Mail Attachments - Save All or Detach All under Linux

2020-11-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-17, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

> I have discovered this problem which occurs on two different machines
> with two different versions of Seamonkey - 2.53.3 and 2.53.5 - under
> OpenSuse.
> Given a mail with multiple attachments, "Save All" or "Detach All"
> starts a process which takes 100% of one processor but does otherwise
> nothing.
> If I Quit Seamonkey the process remains.
> If I kill the process instead of Quitting Seamonkey, Seamonkey dies
> with the process.
> Saving the attachments individually works.
>
> I repeated the test on my Windows 10 machine - with 2.53.4 - and there
> were no problems there.
> Is this a Seamonkey/Linux problem or a Seamonkey/OpenSuse problem?

Do you know which file picker is SeaMonkey using?

What is the value of the ui.allow_platform_file_picker setting? (You can
check that, for example, in about:config.)

(What is the separate process that gets started?)

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Re: Issue with Seamonkey 2.49.5

2020-11-15 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-11-15, Chuck wrote:

> My wife uses Seamonkey 2.49.5 and if she tries to open an attachment
> as well as other files, mainly while in mail, Seamonkey starts
> flashing on and off and each time it opens a new tain Seamonkey until
> there are dozens of tabs open.
> While this is going on, task manager cannot be used to close Seamonkey
> The only way to stop it is to shut down the computer and reboot.
> Please advise.
> Thanks,
> Chuck

Is this happening with all attachments or just with a specific kind/type
of attachment (for example, PDF files)?

If it's just one specific file type, what program would it normally open
with? Does this issue also happen if a file of the same type is opened
from a web page?

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Re: Seamonkey and imgur.com

2020-10-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-10-29, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> Does anyone know how I can get imgur images to work in SeaMonkey? All
> I get when I visit such a URL is a blank screen. I tried user-agent
> overrides to identify as Firefox but that did nothing.
> Works fine in several other web browsers I have available on this PC,
> just not SeaMonkey.
> I tried with adblock disabled as well and that didn't help so its not that.

The default imgur interface requires ResizeObserver, which is supported
by 2.53.5 beta 1.

If you don't want to upgrade yet, it is (unless things have changed
recently) possible to disable the new imgur interface by visiting

https://imgur.com/beta/disable

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Re: nebenan.de - User Profile can not be edited using SM | CONFIRMED

2020-10-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-10-26, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2020-10-26, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>
>> Nuno Silva schrieb:
>>> can be reproduced with other
>>> pages on this site
>>
>>
>> Hello Nuno,
>>
>> thank you for the great hint. Indeed, effect visible for user looks
>> very similar and also error console entry
>>
>> "Zeitstempel: 26.10.2020, 17:43:16
>> Fehler: Content Security Policy: Die Einstellungen der Seite haben das
>> Laden einer Ressource auf
>> blob:https://nebenan.de/337366b5-5734-48a5-9ad5-f906dcb94a68 blockiert
>> ("img-src https://nebenan.de data: https://*
>> https://www.google-analytics.com;)."
>>
>> seems to show more or less the same roots as in my original posting.
>>
>> After your hint I found several other pages on nebenan.de (mostly
>> hoods) showing that effect. What do you think - fixable SeaMonkey bug?
>>
>> CU
>>
>> Rainer
>
> It needs the Array flat() method, which is not available in 2.53 but is
> in 2.57. Among the network requests this page makes is a POST request to
> sentry.nebenan.de with a JSON-encoded javascript exception:
>
> "e.flat is not a function"

It looks like flat() has been recently added to 2.53.6b1pre, that page
seems to work in the build from 2020-10-24 - at least the map loads and
is not replaced with an error message.

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Re: nebenan.de - User Profile can not be edited using SM | CONFIRMED

2020-10-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-10-26, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

> Nuno Silva schrieb:
>> can be reproduced with other
>> pages on this site
>
>
> Hello Nuno,
>
> thank you for the great hint. Indeed, effect visible for user looks
> very similar and also error console entry
>
> "Zeitstempel: 26.10.2020, 17:43:16
> Fehler: Content Security Policy: Die Einstellungen der Seite haben das
> Laden einer Ressource auf
> blob:https://nebenan.de/337366b5-5734-48a5-9ad5-f906dcb94a68 blockiert
> ("img-src https://nebenan.de data: https://*
> https://www.google-analytics.com;)."
>
> seems to show more or less the same roots as in my original posting.
>
> After your hint I found several other pages on nebenan.de (mostly
> hoods) showing that effect. What do you think - fixable SeaMonkey bug?
>
> CU
>
> Rainer

It needs the Array flat() method, which is not available in 2.53 but is
in 2.57. Among the network requests this page makes is a POST request to
sentry.nebenan.de with a JSON-encoded javascript exception:

"e.flat is not a function"

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Re: nebenan.de - User Profile can not be edited using SM

2020-10-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-10-26, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Steps how to reproduce with unzipped   unofficial (by wg9s) De
> SeaMonkey 2.53.6 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20201012210006 (Newly created User
> Profile, Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit:
>
> 1. Log in to your nebenan.de account
> 2. visit your profile with ˋclick on your photo → Your Profildˊ
>» Expected: Profile can be edited
>  Actual: Profile contents appears, but vanishes after few seconds
>  and Error Message "Ooops, hier ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.
>  Wir sind informiert und werden uns darum kümmern.
>  Neuladen?"
>  appears
>
>
> Additional Info: SM Error console shows an Error "Zeitstempel:
> 26.10.2020, 12:05:20
> Fehler: Content Security Policy: Die Einstellungen der Seite haben das
> Laden einer Ressource auf
> blob:https://nebenan.de/bfc111fb-76f5-4834-97b9-d078e378d6fb blockiert
> ("img-src https://nebenan.de data: https://*
> https://www.google-analytics.com;)." which does not appear on other
> pages. I can't decide whether this is related to my problem.
>
> nebenan.de profile can be edited with MS EDGE and FF without
> problems. Any Ideas?
>
> CU
>
> Rainer
>

It looks like this (or something similar) can be reproduced with other
pages on this site, see for example

https://nebenan.de/hood/britz-nord

This will first start loading a map and then show that "Ooops" message
in 2.53; appears to load correctly (or at least differently) in 2.57.

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Re: updates

2020-09-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-25, Doug Hughes wrote:

> Good Morning
>
> I have and use Sea Monkey on two PC's
> On this particular PC,2.53.1 Seamonkey says it is up to date and there
> are no available updates.
> On my other PC, 2.53.3  Seamonkey and says an update to 2.53.4 is
> available, yet windows wont let me install
> because publisher is unknown. One or the other PC I suspect is
> infected with a clone or is there some way
> to clarify whats going on here?
> any help would be appreciated.
> Regards
>
> Doug
>

How are you getting the information about updates?

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Re: New York Times front page malfunctions

2020-09-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-28, flyguy wrote:

> Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM:
>> On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote:
>>> The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left
>>> of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few
>>> days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side
>>> is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these
>>> items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on?
>>
>> The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others
>> appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window.
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
>>
> The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I
> click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play
> the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work.
>
> I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3?

I don't know the cause, but while the hamburger menu does nothing in
2.49.4 or 2.49.5, it does work with 2.53.3.

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Re: Problem viewing commits on gitlab.com with SeaMonkey.

2020-09-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-25, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>> If I try to view a commit on gitlab.com such as
>> https://gitlab.com/w3dhub/a-path-beyond-sdk/-/commit/a615e4d328a3f4ab1c60c3371308b28272489ccd
>> with SeaMonkey, I see no output. Works fine for the same commit on
>> the Chrome-based version of Edge as well as version 81.0 of Firefox
>> (FirefoxPortable specifically if that makes a difference).
>>
>> Is there something I can do (say, a useragent override) that would
>> get the page working again or is this a site that just won't work in
>> SeaMonkey (I have 2.53.4) anymore?
>
> It looks OK to me with SeaMonkey 2.53.4 on Linux.  Might be related to
> settings for cookies, JavaScript etc.?  Try in "safe mode" (Help >
> Restart with Add-ons Disabled), or a clean profile (Tools > Switch
> Profile)?
>
> Under the one file changes in that commit it shows "No preview for
> this file type", but that's normal for binary files.  I'd be surprised
> if that's any different in other browsers, as I think it's more to do
> with GitLab's support for generating a preview of the file rather than
> the browser.

On 2020-09-26, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> Its working for me now.
>

Yes, things changed on the gitlab side again. For context see
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/239357

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Re: Autoplay Toggle NonRestartless Installed

2020-09-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-23, Danny Kile wrote:

> After the extension is installed I see no way to toggle it on and off.
> Any suggestions?

After installation, it is available as a toolbar button, but it is not
added to any toolbar, you have to add it yourself:

Right-click the navigation bar and choose "Customize...";

"Autoplay Toggle" should appear as one item in the "Customize Toolbar"
window.

Move/drag it to a toolbar and click "Done".

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Re: What is the "Website Navigation Bar" used for ?

2020-09-21 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-21, DoctorBill wrote:

> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
>> On 9/21/20 6:46 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> OKmy question -  what does the "Website Navigation Bar" DO ?
>>> it is greyed out right now.   It has (left to right):
>>> "TopUpFirst..Previous.Next.Last.DocumentMore..Subscribe"
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>> A web page can have certain metadata that identifies other pages to
>> which the user might want to navigate, named as in the list you
>> quoted. This might be useful, eg, for an online manual. According to
>> the metadata available in the page being shown, the browser will
>> enable the corresponding toolbar buttons.
>>
>> This is a feature from the 90s that's not much used now, as
>> developers prefer to ship megabytes of buggy JavaScript to achieve
>> the same thing.
>>
>> You probably want
>>
>>   View>Show/Hide>Website Navigation Bar>Show Only As Needed
>>
>> /df
>>
>
> OK.  Thanks.  I set it to "Only As Needed" - but I'd probably never
> use it sice
> I have no idea what you described !  Do you have a link where one
> might use that ?
> As an example, as it were !
>
> DB

One example of a site which sets these relative links is the SeaMonkey
project website. For example, at

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features

"Top" will get you to the site front page,
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/, and "Up" will go to the
documentation section, https://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/.

At the front/home page, the atom news feed will be under "Subscribe".

Some webforums and content management systems will also have information
that shows up in the Website Navigation Toolbar, for example, WordPress
shows "Next" and "Previous" to navigate between posts:


https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2020/07/07/seamonkey-2-53-3-has-been-released/

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-09-12 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-09-01, Slugracing wrote:

> Slugracing wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
>>>>>> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
>>>>>> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
>>>>>> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
>>>>>> this its slow as a wet week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
>>>>>> ram for the same sites open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using the binaries from
>>>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>>>>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
>>>> seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes
>>>
>>> Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
>>> whether this happens with both packages or not.
>>>
>>
>> Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly
>> from SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I
>> always do and have at this point in time an improvement in ram
>> usage, down around 40%.
>>
>> Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period
> of a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.
>
> Pity I was hoping for a fix.

Hi,

Thanks for testing! Would you say it behaves mostly in the same way or
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Re: Where's the "connect-oid"??

2020-08-31 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-31, Daniel wrote:

> I have a problem with my HP 6730B Laptop and the 3G USB Dongle that I
> use to connect to the Internet whereby, regularly, I'll lose the link
> to the Internet, so that I have to go Off-line, remove the Dongle,
> re-insert the Dongle and re-connect to the Internet.
>
> To go Off-line, in SeaMonkey, I click the little connect-oid thingey
> in the bottom right of screen  well, at least I do in my SeaMonkey
> Browser or Mail and News screen.
>
> But I cannot do this in the SeaMonkey Chatzilla screen. Why not??
>
> Sure, it's no real 'biggy' having to switch to one of the other
> screens, but why??

I don't use ChatZilla, so there might be something I'm not aware of, but
with ChatZilla 0.9.96 on SeaMonkey 2.53.3, it looks like there is an
offline/online toggle icon in the status bar, but with a different
image: the rightmost icon, just before the resize grip/handle.

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Re: No more images shown on IMGUR

2020-08-21 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-21, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

> Hi,
>
> for me problem has vanished, it seems they changed something at IMGUR.
>
> Your results?

Here I'm still getting gray pages for imgur "galleries".

Albums seem to work, or at least these don't show an empty gray page. In
some cases you might be able to replace /gallery/ with /a/ in the imgur
address to get something that works.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-08-20 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:
[...]
>>> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
>>> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
>>> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
>>> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
>>> this its slow as a wet week.
>>>
>>> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
>>> ram for the same sites open.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>
>
> Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
> seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes

Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

2020-08-20 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9
>>>
>>
>> Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
>> 2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?
>>
> I added one pic; 2.53.3 safe mode.
>
> I now have a window that seems to have all the parts, but is very
> small both directions.  I cannot move or resize it.

I think this is the default behavior/look of the window. Do you know if
you have any extension that provides this feature (a larger and/or
resizeable "Edit This Bookmark" window)?

If you don't know which add-on provides this, can you try
enabling/disabling them one by one and see which one gives you the
larger/resizeable dialog?

If this feature is provided by an extension and you can find out which
one it is, then it will be easier to investigate what is causing this
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-08-19 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-19, Ray_Net wrote:

> meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:
>>  Original Message 
>>> EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:
>>>> Lance Courtland wrote:
>>>>> It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web
>>>>> browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then
>>>>> Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed
>>>>> by the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs,
>>>>> and kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully
>>>>> function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a
>>>>> burden. SM seems to have been brought down by the difference
>>>>> between "you can do all this to make it work however you want"
>>>>> and "you have to do all this to make it work at all."
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of
>>>>> developers have put in to keep SM alive.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I
>>>>> like a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM
>>>>> Email open in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always
>>>>> resisted adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms
>>>>> of the digital world, but it has become too burdensome to
>>>>> continue being a browser salmon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Parting is such sweet sorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>> Why use Chrome? 
>>> Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem
>>> with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did
>>> not work using SM.
>>>
>> Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).
>>
> This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
> and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you
> use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

meagain's User-Agent string in the newsgroup post seems to be identical
to yours, so it looks like [1] you're both using 32-bit builds.

[1] Unless there is any User-Agent spoofing, or a different SeaMonkey
version is being used to participate in this group/list.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-08-19 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-18, Edward wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>>
>> If it is a distribution version, can you please see if the same happens
>> with the binaries from the project website?
>
> I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the
> Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through
> YouTube or a web site, after it's been running for a while.

Can you reproduce this easily and consistently? Does it happen with all
videos or just with specific videos?

> This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage
> of memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other
> web browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition
> becomes active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system.

If you can reproduce this easily and you're able to give a try to the
version from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/, it would be good to
know whether it behaves in the same way or not.

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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

2020-08-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:

> Ctrl-D window is truncated on the right edge.
>
> Below is a link to several pics.  Click on any one to get scroll
> arrows which are hidden until you get a cursor near them. Click the i
> in a circle to get info which is the version number.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9
>

Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-08-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>
>> Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in
>> private? 
>
> He is telling you he has an issue, just like most of us do. Flipping
> him off like that is child like.
>
> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
> this its slow as a wet week.
>
> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
> ram for the same sites open.
>
> Thanks

Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?

If it is a distribution version, can you please see if the same happens
with the binaries from the project website?

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

2020-08-15 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-15, Lance Courtland wrote:

> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>> Lance Courtland wrote:
>>> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>>>> Lance Courtland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I
>>>>> like a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM
>>>>> Email open in Chrome, which is now my default. 
>>>>
>>>> Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have
>>>> links open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work,
>>>> too.  I just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click
>>>> on the link. Thanks.
>>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Try this.  I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3
>>>
>>> 1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows
>>> default programs.  Reboot computer.
>>> 2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser.  Make
>>> sure SM is not your default browser.
>>> 3.In SM browser, go to about:config.  Search for
>>> network.protocol-handler.external.http.  If it exists, set it to
>>> false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to
>>> false.
>>> 4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https.
>>> 5. Still in about:config, search for
>>> network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to
>>> false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to
>>> false.
>>> 6. Close SM and reboot computer.
>>
>> *sigh*.  Neither *.http or *.https exists in my config file.  I
>> suppose I could figure out how to create them as a boolean since
>> years ago I did futz around with the config file per a suggestion on
>> this newsgroup. However, nowadays my computer savvy is not as
>> effective as it once was; so I'll just have to continue with my
>> practice of copying and pasting the links into Firefox by hand.
>>
>> Anyway, congratulation to you for succeeding and thanks for the hint!
>>
> Ken,
>
> Don't give up just yet.  Here's how to create a new config preference.
> 1. In SM browser, put about:config in address bar, hit enter
> 2. Right click anywhere in list of preferences
> 3. Select New, then Boolean
> 4. Enter preference name, i.e. network.protocol-handler.external.http,
> then click OK
> 5. In the popup window "Enter boolean value", select false, click OK.
> 6. Repeat steps 2-5 until all preferences entered.
> 7. Reboot.

I think it might be "expose", not "external", see [1].

Here I was able to open http(s) links (from inside Mail) using an
external browser after creating network.protocol-handler.expose.http and
network.protocol-handler.expose.https, both as booleans set to false.

(After this, if I try to open such a link, SeaMonkey asks me to choose a
helper application to open it with, and I can set it to "Remember my
choice".)


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Firefox_3.5_and_above
(compared with the "[...] up to 3.0" subsection which follows)
(This is all inside the "Linux" section, but seems to work in
Windows as well.)

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Re: Is there a way to make SM confirm my ^Q (exit SM) hotkeys to quit it?

2020-08-14 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-14, EE wrote:

> Ant wrote:
>> On 8/13/2020 12:31 PM, EE wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Once in a while I accidently press them instead of ^W (close
>>>>>> current tab) in the middle of something. Relaunching with
>>>>>> restored sessions don't always remember my form inputs and
>>>>>> logins. It's quite annoying. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> You want to do a restart instead of shutting SeaMonkey down?  If
>>>>> you get Chromedit Plus, it gives you a restart button.  It is
>>>>> also handy to edit userChrome.css, userContent.css, and user.js
>>>>> if you have them.
>>>>
>>>> No, I don't want SM to exit without asking me to confirm it like
>>>> in Firefox with ctrl-q hot keys.
>>>
>>> If you have more than one tab open, you should be asked if you
>>> really want to quit.
>>
>> It doesn't even though I have "Warn me when closing a window with
>> multiple tabs"'s box is checked. Maybe a bug since it happens 64-bit
>> W7 HPE SP1, Debian Jessie v8, and mac OS Mojave v10.14.6? :/
>
> No idea.  It works for me, but I have MacOS.

I think SeaMonkey won't show that question/confirmation dialog on quit
when the browser is set to "Restore Previous Session" on startup.

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Re: SeaMonkey Themes

2020-08-12 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-09, Edward wrote:

> I am running SeaMonkey on Fedora Linux, using the Fedora-supplied package.
>
> Are there are any known differences, other than appearance, between
> the SeaMonkey Modern and Default themes?
>
> I have noticed when using the Default theme, SeaMonkey tends to run
> slow, not just with the Mail & News window, but the browser window as
> well. But when switching to the Modern theme and restarting, SeaMonkey
> performs a lot faster, the speed difference is noticeable.


Does your desktop environment inside Fedora have an option to change the
UI theme? Does it change the appearance of SeaMonkey with the Default
theme?

If so, does the situation improve if you try other UI themes?

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Re: Spanish dictionaries don't appear in mail compose spell check

2020-08-05 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-05, Lance Courtland wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2020-08-05, Lance Courtland wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 10 Home
>>> SM Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
>>>
>>> I have downloaded and supposedly successfully installed 3 Spanish
>>> language dictionaries using Edit/Check Spelling/Language/Download more
>>> dictionaries, from an email compose window.  They all appear in the
>>> Add-ons Mangaer Extensions window.
>>>
>>> After closing SM and opening again, none of the dictionaries appears
>>> in the Language drop-down list.
>>>
>>> Was there some change in how to use other language dictionaries?
>>
>> It looks like you've downloaded and installed "webextension"
>> dictionaries. Try again with an older, non-"webextension" version.
>>
>> In the dictionary page, first click on "See complete version history"
>> then try to locate the first entry that says "webext" and install the
>> version before that "webext" one.
>>
> Nuno,
>
> Thanks, that worked.  The Spanish dictionary now appears under check
> spelling/language, but it does not appear in the Add-ons manager page.
> I'll go with using it but not seeing it in Add-ons.

Did you check the "Dictionaries" tab in the Add-ons manager? It seems
that "webextension" dictionaries show up in "Extensions", while
non-"webextension" ones show up in "Dictionaries".

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Re: Spanish dictionaries don't appear in mail compose spell check

2020-08-05 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-08-05, Lance Courtland wrote:

> Windows 10 Home
> SM Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
> SeaMonkey/2.53.3
>
> I have downloaded and supposedly successfully installed 3 Spanish
> language dictionaries using Edit/Check Spelling/Language/Download more
> dictionaries, from an email compose window.  They all appear in the
> Add-ons Mangaer Extensions window.
>
> After closing SM and opening again, none of the dictionaries appears
> in the Language drop-down list.
>
> Was there some change in how to use other language dictionaries?

It looks like you've downloaded and installed "webextension"
dictionaries. Try again with an older, non-"webextension" version.

In the dictionary page, first click on "See complete version history"
then try to locate the first entry that says "webext" and install the
version before that "webext" one.

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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

2020-07-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-29, Danny Kile wrote:

> Going to carmax.com I get the following error:
>
> Access Denied
> You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/; on this server.
>
> Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e
>
> I works just fine with Chrome.
>
> What is my solution? Thank you!


That is blacklisting by Akamai. I'm afraid I don't know the details of
why it might fail with a specific browser/profile and work with others
on the same machine - I can only guess cookies, javascript or the
user-agent string may be involved, but it could be something else.

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Re: The website mozillaes.org has gone

2020-07-28 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-28, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

>>>>>> AndrésH a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The website mozillaes.org has gone. I receive a page from
>>>>>>> godday.com that the domain mozilles.org has not been renewed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there in this newsgroup from the spanish community that can
>>>>>>> inform me if this is permanent.
>>>>>>>
> Is this the Spanish page you are looking for:
> https://www.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/all/#product-desktop-release


Probably not, see:

http://web.archive.org/web/20200120125753/http://mozillaes.org/foros/
http://web.archive.org/web/20191201133734/http://www.mozillaes.org/documentacion/Página_principal

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Re: vertical size of "add security exception " pop up form too large

2020-07-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-26, AndrésH wrote:

> Frank-Rainer Grahl escribió:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> AndrésH wrote:
>>>> Nuno Silva escribió:
>>>>> On 2020-07-25, AndrésH wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using Kaspesky antivirus that that intercepts https and creates a
>>>>>> server certificate with its own root authority .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seamonkey constantly triggers the "add security exception" form
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> bigger vertical size that doesn't fit in my monitor whatever size
>>>>>> (pixels)  I select.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I resolve that problem, apart from create a new profile or
>>>>>> disable the feature of Kaspesk?
>>>>> What is your display size in pixels?
>>>>>
>>>> My display size is 1920x1080, but I have that problem also with
>>>> 1600x900.
>>>
>>> No SeaMonkey popup/window/dialog should be wider than 1024px. Can
>>> you link a screenshot? You might want to backup you profile and
>>> then delete xulstore.json when SeaMonkey is colse. This should set
>>> window sizes to the intial settings.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> Upps and vertical should be around 600px max for all initial sizes.
>>
>> FRG
>
> I don't know a website that presents itself as "unsecure". I had a lot
> of such messages because a problem with de root certificate of my
> antivirus (Kaspesky ).
>
> Can you suggest me some unsecure website to trigger the problem?
> I include xulstore.json hoping you will find some suspicious.

Yes, it has the following:

> "chrome://pippki/content/exceptionDialog.xul": {
> "exceptiondialog": {
> "height": "1448",
> "screenX": "336",
> "screenY": "8",
> "width": "890"
> }
> }

So, if I'm understanding correctly, the stored window/dialog dimensions
are 890x1448.

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Re: vertical size of "add security exception " pop up form too large

2020-07-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-26, AndrésH wrote:

> Frank-Rainer Grahl escribió:
>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> AndrésH wrote:
>>>> Nuno Silva escribió:
>>>>> On 2020-07-25, AndrésH wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using Kaspesky antivirus that that intercepts https and creates a
>>>>>> server certificate with its own root authority .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seamonkey constantly triggers the "add security exception" form
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> bigger vertical size that doesn't fit in my monitor whatever size
>>>>>> (pixels)  I select.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I resolve that problem, apart from create a new profile or
>>>>>> disable the feature of Kaspesk?
>>>>> What is your display size in pixels?
>>>>>
>>>> My display size is 1920x1080, but I have that problem also with
>>>> 1600x900.
>>>
>>> No SeaMonkey popup/window/dialog should be wider than 1024px. Can
>>> you link a screenshot? You might want to backup you profile and
>>> then delete xulstore.json when SeaMonkey is colse. This should set
>>> window sizes to the intial settings.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> Upps and vertical should be around 600px max for all initial sizes.
>>
>> FRG
> I don't know a website that presents itself as "unsecure". I had a lot
> of such messages because a problem with de root certificate of my
> antivirus (Kaspesky ).
>
> Can you suggest me some unsecure website to trigger the problem?

One of the example pages from https://badssl.com/ might work. Perhaps
https://untrusted-root.badssl.com/ to match the Kaspersky issue.

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Re: vertical size of "add security exception " pop up form too large

2020-07-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-25, AndrésH wrote:

> I'm using Kaspesky antivirus that that intercepts https and creates a
> server certificate with its own root authority .
>
> Seamonkey constantly triggers the "add security exception" form with a
> bigger vertical size that doesn't fit in my monitor whatever size
> (pixels)  I select.
>
> How can I resolve that problem, apart from create a new profile or
> disable the feature of Kaspesk?

What is your display size in pixels?

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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied

2020-07-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-18, Doors wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:23:24 -0700, Doors 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
>>random websites.
>>
>>With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
>>Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more,  will load the
>>home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
>>denied messages, it varies.
>>
>>Yes I have tried in safe mode.
>>Yes I have tried a clean profile.
>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
>>Yes I have tried with identify as FF.
>>
>>Portable version of FF60 works fine.
>>
>>Anybody else having this problem
>>Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?
>
> My bad for forgetting, sorry.
> Win7 Pro x64 with x64 version of SM 2.53.3
> OpenShell, 7+ taskbar switcher, network activity indicator, explorer++
> With everything made as XP classic as possible.
> I find the default Win7 GUI effectively unusable.
> Later windows are even worse in my own opinion.
>
> The two errors I got are.
> Blank page. {View source shows JS}
> Access Denied: bignumber.bignumber.number


Any chance this one said the following?:

"Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "[address]" on this server.

Reference #[number].[number].[number]"



That'd be blacklisting by Akamai:

https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362

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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied

2020-07-18 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-17, Doors wrote:

> Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
> random websites.
>
> With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
> Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more,  will load the
> home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
> denied messages, it varies.


What do these messages say when they appear? Is the message the same for
different websites?


> Yes I have tried in safe mode.
> Yes I have tried a clean profile.
> Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
> Yes I have tried with identify as FF.
>
> Portable version of FF60 works fine.
>
> Anybody else having this problem
> Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?

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Re: SM 2.53.2 FCore32 Lightning

2020-07-08 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-07-08, Ken Smith wrote:

> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>> Ken Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Lightning absent on the profile I'm concerned about. But if I
>>> create another, new, empty profile then Lightning is
>>> there. Suggesting the code and plug-in is present in SM but for
>>> some reason in this particular profile its disabled or blocked in
>>> some way.
>>>
>>> I see two ways forward.
[...]
>> Third option is reading the release notes. Missing Lightning is
>> covered there for a few releases now. Lightning is also now a packed
>> xpi. You can just pick it from the SeaMonkey installation directory.
>
> Thank you Frank. I'm aware the Lightning is a packed xpi in current
> releases, I've read the Release Notes - several times :-)
>
> Apologies that my messages have not been clear enough. What I'm
> attempting to say is; that on a new, empty, clean profile Lightning is
> there. Confirming what you have said.
>
> The thing I'm trying to explain, is that on a profile that has been
> migrated forward from a 2.49 installation Lightning is absent/broken.
>
> Is there a way to fix that besides deleting it? Details in previous
> messages

This is one of the possibilities covered by the Release Notes, under
Known Issues. If Lightning shows up in the list of installed extensions,
remove it. Reset the "[...]installedDistroAddon[...]" preference and
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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

2020-05-09 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-05-08, Ant wrote:

[...]
> However, you said HSTS earlier which I saw a few in
> https://badssl.com's list. I tried its red
> https://subdomain.preloaded-hsts.badssl.com which was probably the
> closest to the one I ran into last night, but it also let me add an
> exception. It didn't show "This site uses HTTP Strict Transport
> Security (HSTS) to specify that SeaMonkey only connect to it
> securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this
> certificate... uses an invalid security certificate Error code:
> SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE".
>
> Hmm! My SeaMonkey must be possessed or something! :O

Here (2.49.5) I get the message that allows me to add an exception, but
if I visit https://preloaded-hsts.badssl.com and then open
https://subdomain.preloaded-hsts.badssl.com after that, I get the HSTS
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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-12 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-03-02, Larry S. wrote:

> I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
> discovered that one preference expired today, and another one
> tomorrow. Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a
> while.)
>
> Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?
>
> Larry

On 2020-03-10, Larry S. wrote:

> Still get the message "You don't have permission to access Fox News on
> this server". Any thoughts on what to do now?
>
> I tried changing cookies to "Session Only", didn't work. I tried
> changing my UA string to read Firefox 72.0.1, didn't work.
>
> Any other thoughts?
> Larry


I can't reproduce this myself. But, from what I have found on the web so
far, this might be blacklisting by Akamai (which is used, among
others, by Fox News).

Akamai has a small javascript-driven text explaining this[1] and they
provide a tool to check the "reputation"[2]. You could try this tool to
see if this is indeed the problem. A couple results from other
sites[3,4] have some information as well.

[1] https://community.akamai.com/customers/s/article/Why-is-Akamai-blocking-me

[2] https://www.akamai.com/us/en/clientrep-lookup/ (requires javascript,
might show a captcha and takes some time to load the results)

[3] https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 casualty: Netflix?

2020-03-05 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-03-04, Ant wrote:

> On 3/3/2020 5:34 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> On 3/3/2020 6:57 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>> Well is seems after update from 2.49.5 Netflix no longer works. Breaks
>>>> Silverlight?
>>>
>>> I don't use Netflix, but I noticed my Silverlight plugin was not listed
>>> in SM's plugins list. :(
>>
>> Yes that's what the difference is now. 2.49.5 seems to drop the plugin.
>
> Don't you mean v2.53.1? V2.49.5 still had it.

NPAPI plugin support for anything other than Shockwave Flash has been
dropped in 2.53.1.

Still not in the release notes, but search for NPAPI in
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2020-02-23

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Re: I can't install any version of Seamonkey after 2.49.4

2020-02-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-02-16, Cheryl wrote:

> Seamonkey stops responding right at the end and it never updates. The
> reason I was updating was because I get the constant Not Responding
> and have to close seamonkey via Task Mgr.
> Any help or ideas appreciated.

How are you trying to update it?

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Re: Images using data-src tag?

2020-01-13 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-01-13, Gerry Hickman wrote:

> Browsing to this page, with SeaMonkey/2.49.4, the images seem to be
> missing? I think they're using a "data-src" tag.
>
> https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-virtual-filesystem-switch/

Those are "lazy-loaded" images, handled by javascript code.

>From a quick glance at the page source, the image loading code uses
IntersectionObserver, which was introduced in Firefox 55 [1].

As Seamonkey 2.49 is "based on" Firefox 52, the lack of
IntersectionObserver is likely the problem. But it will probably work
with Seamonkey 2.53 ("based on" Firefox 56).

[1] 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Intersection_Observer_API#Browser_compatibility

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Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?

2020-01-11 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-01-11, DoctorBill wrote:

[...]
> .
> I tried to put a PATH into the Filename - like
> C:/blahblah
> and THAT went to the C - root directory - but was unreadable by Open
> office,
> NotePad and Acrobat.   It is a strange kind of file. (?)
> I then tried giving it an extension .prn.   Same result even with a
> .prn ext.

(What is saved by the "print to file" option is what would be sent to
the printer - the file will be in the format/language used by the
printer driver, which can be closed/proprietary/undocumented.)

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Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?

2020-01-11 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-01-11, DoctorBill wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
[...]
>> I think what you (WaltS48) are describing is a different feature, the
>> "print to file" option in the GTK print dialog, which (at least here) is
>> shown as if it were a printer itself (in the list of printers or
>> printing methods which are available).
>>
>> What DoctorBill is describing sounds like the "Print to file" checkbox
>> in the Windows print dialog. This option, instead of sending the data to
>> the printer, will store it in a file.
>>
>> In my experience, the "File:" prompt will accept a full path, that is,
>> starting from a "drive letter" and with directories, say,
>> A:\dir\example.dat.
>>
>> Screenshots:
>> - Windows:
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlgbox/images/printdialogboxxp.png
>> - GTK 3: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/printdialog.png
>>
> OKYes - I am talking about the first screenshot that you labeled
> "windows" - THAT is what I see.
> The second one "GTK"  - ??

(The GTK dialog is the one that appears in GNU/Linux systems.)

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Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?

2020-01-10 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-01-10, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

> DoctorBill wrote:
>> I am asking here because a Google Search brought up implications that
>> this is a specific Browser thing and not applicable to Windows (7).(?)
>>
>> I was on my wife's Health Insurance web site (Fidelity) and found her
>> "Claims Activity" link.   That goes to a HUGE List (she had cancer) which
>> has a "Print" button.  Clicking THAT sends me to the print Options.
>> One "Option" is  - PRINT TO FILE.
>> Here is the problem . . . . . WHERE does the file get printed to ?
>> NO choices are given to place - just File Name
>>
>> Looking for information on this on Google just brings up ALL SORTS of
>> Gobble-De-Gook !  One opinion after another !   Mostly rubbish.
>>
>> Searching for the file name gets me no-where !
>>
>> Can someone point me in the right direction ?  I know it is OFF TOPIC.
>> Sorry for that !
>>
>> DoctorBill
>
> No telling where it gets printed to on your machine or what it's name
> is.  Print another one and watch very carefully where it goes and what
> it is named.
> Or, use search everything to find it... if you know it's name.

In a quick test here, when I gave it only a filename, the file was
created in the same directory as seamonkey.exe.

If you start Seamonkey using a shortcut, I would start by looking in the
"starting directory" for that shortcut (see "Start in" in the shortcut
properties: https://i.stack.imgur.com/rvcI1.png )

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Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?

2020-01-10 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-01-10, WaltS48 wrote:

> DoctorBill wrote:
>> I am asking here because a Google Search brought up implications that
>> this is a specific Browser thing and not applicable to Windows (7).(?)
>>
>> I was on my wife's Health Insurance web site (Fidelity) and found her
>> "Claims Activity" link.   That goes to a HUGE List (she had cancer) which
>> has a "Print" button.  Clicking THAT sends me to the print Options.
>> One "Option" is  - PRINT TO FILE.
>> Here is the problem . . . . . WHERE does the file get printed to ?
>> NO choices are given to place - just File Name
>>
>> Looking for information on this on Google just brings up ALL SORTS of
>> Gobble-De-Gook !  One opinion after another !   Mostly rubbish.
>>
>> Searching for the file name gets me no-where !
>>
>> Can someone point me in the right direction ?  I know it is OFF TOPIC.
>> Sorry for that !
>>
>> DoctorBill
>
> I see File: ~/mozilla.pdf in my print dialog.
>
> If I click that, I get a File Manager dialog where I can select the
> location and rename the file.
>
> You don't have that?

I think what you (WaltS48) are describing is a different feature, the
"print to file" option in the GTK print dialog, which (at least here) is
shown as if it were a printer itself (in the list of printers or
printing methods which are available).

What DoctorBill is describing sounds like the "Print to file" checkbox
in the Windows print dialog. This option, instead of sending the data to
the printer, will store it in a file.

In my experience, the "File:" prompt will accept a full path, that is,
starting from a "drive letter" and with directories, say,
A:\dir\example.dat.

Screenshots:
- Windows: 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlgbox/images/printdialogboxxp.png
- GTK 3: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/printdialog.png

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Re: German 2.53.1 - Chatzilla broken for my normal User Profile

2019-11-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-11-25, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

> 3) I don't dnow what RESET key ... means, I switched it To False.
>» After relaunch CZ Still is missing.

This is probably the "Reset" option in the context menu for that
about:config entry (so right-click it or press shift+F10).

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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

2019-11-01 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-31, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
>> preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
>> Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.
>
> Is that equivalent to this?
>
> Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Text Encoding | Composing Messages:
> [x] For messages that contain 8-bit characters, use 'quoted printable'
> MIME encoding. Leave unchecked to send the messages as is.

It probably is, and it does toggle mail.strictly_mime.

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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

2019-10-31 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-31, Frog wrote:

> I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of
> ??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or
> something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested
> to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being
> involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this
> is happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.


Is this happening with e-mails you send via a Verizon SMTP server? If
so, here's what I wrote about it a couple months ago[1]:

If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use
the SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/...

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.

Bug 1435903 has some details about this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903


[1] Message-ID: 

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Re: Can't reach some websites

2019-10-30 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>
> The message I get is:
> *
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code:  title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
> Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.

Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

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Re: Request received: Re: Loading Windows 10 on Used Computer - Advice ? ref:_00DU0Lfqj._5001v18tW39:ref

2019-10-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-29, Support TheFork wrote:

> Thanks for your email. We have received your request 03595853 and it
> is being processed by our Support team.
>
> To leave additional comments, please reply to this email.

The mailman\..* Message-Id means this is coming via the mailing list
interface, right?

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Re: User Agent in Prefbar

2019-10-29 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-29, David E. Ross wrote:

> On 10/28/2019 8:42 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>> As you may know, Google has messed with their Search Engine and now
>> the cursor has changed position, etc.
>> 
>> If I change the User Agent in "Prefbar" to  -  IE 9.0 win 7  -  the Google
>> cursor goes back to what it used to be.
>> 
>> Is there some way to make this User Agent PERMANENT in SeaMonkey ?
>> i.e. - to make it always use IE 9.0 win 7 as the User Agent ?
>> 
>> DoctorBill
>> 
>
> If IE 9.0 is already an option under Prefbar's User Agent, just remember
> to select it when you want to use Google's search; and then remember to
> restore the default UA string when you leave Google.
>
> Personally, I would not bother.  I usually use DuckDuckGo for searches.
> If I need to use Google, I ignore the strange positioning of my cursor
> and input.  Too many other poorly designed Web sites have strangeness
> for Google's strangeness to bother me.

Why not make that User-Agent permanent for google?:

Select the desired User-Agent using Prefbar, confirm that it makes
Google search work as desired, then

Open about:config and search for general.useragent.override. It should
show up with a value that is the IE9 User-Agent string.

Copy its value (right click on that line -> Copy Value), then create a
new string preference (right click anywhere in the about:config
preference list -> New -> String), name it
general.useragent.override.google.com and, when asked for the value,
paste the value you copied from the other preference.

This will set an override for google.com. You may need to add overrides
for other Google domains if Google redirects you to a different
"regional" Google site.

(If you later wish to undo this modification, search for
general.useragent.override.google.com, right click on it and choose
Reset. It will then show up with an empty value and it will be gone
the next time you start Seamonkey.)

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Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted

2019-10-23 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-23, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

> OK
> I tend to keep a clean profile in Profile manager. So I went and
> loaded that one and it works as expected.
> Went back to my regular profiles and the problem recurs.
> It seems to definitely be something in my profile.

I'd suggest creating a brand new profile (so that it is completely empty
and you can delete it afterwards) and trying the "Remember me" option so
that you can more easily see what is being set/stored by that option.


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Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted

2019-10-22 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>>>> I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that
>>>>> domain including logins, cookies and other data. ...
>>>>
>>>> Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you.
[...]
> I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and
> Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab
> and deleted all instances of that user name.
>
> I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete.
>
> About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and
> reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also
> deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it.

Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for
which you still have cookies?

The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this
element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through
the login process.

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Re: Can't Reach Mail Server Anymore?

2019-08-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-08-26, user@domain.invalid wrote:

> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
>
> I just can't believe this...
>
> I set up Seamonkey in my second Windows computer with eggzackly the
> same info as my first computer.
>
> I can receive emails on Seamonkey on that computer but when I try to
> send one a box with an error message pops up on the screen. It reads:
>
> "An error occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an
> incorrect greeting:  +OK Dovecot ready.."
>
> Anyone know what that means? I have no idea what a Dovecot is.
>
> What should I try changing in the POP setup now?
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Jeff

Dovecot is an IMAP and POP3 mail server, so I'd suspect that the
incoming server (in your case, POP3) settings were used, by mistake, for
the outgoing server (SMTP).

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Re: Invalid Characters

2019-08-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-08-16,  Mr. Ed  wrote:

> On 8/16/2019 8:27 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> On 8/16/2019 7:54 AM,  Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>> For some reason, lately I have been sending the Character "À" after a ". "
>>> (period and a space).
>>> It shows up in the reciepients e-mail as a "?". 
>>> I am using
>>> User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
>>> Bill's (WG9) from 8/13/19.   This may have started before, but I was just 
>>> told about it.   
>>>
>>> Suggestions?  
>>> Reply here or to 'from' address - I don't hide.
>>> -- 
>>> "This is America!  You can't make a horse
>>>  testify against himself!"  -Mister Ed
>> Examples:
>>
>> What I typed                                     this is. 
>> What is displayed in sent messages   this is.ÀÀ
>> What is received    this is.??
>>
>> after "is" are two spaces and "new line" (carriage return)
>>
>
> And what is interesting it that I don't see this happening on reading the
> e-mail in the news groups. 
> no "?" marks after the period even though I left to spaces.   Hmmm.

If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use the
SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/...

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.

Bug 1435903 has some details about this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903

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Re: How to install and use Seamonkey on my linux machine ?

2019-08-08 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-08-08, Ray_Net wrote:

> Jonathan N. Little wrote on 08-08-19 07:10:
>> Lee wrote:
[...]
>> When using the ubuntuzilla it does just that and simplifies the process,
>> but if you want to manually do it from the tarball as you have then:
[...]
> For me, this is very very complicated.
> You said "
>
> When using the ubuntuzilla it does just that and simplifies the process,
>
> "
> Could you or someone tell ma how to install SeaMonkey in my
> lubuntu18.04 usng the easy way.
> Because "sudo apt-get install seamonkey " this is NOT working.
> I had done before "sudo apt-get install thunderbird" and Thunderbird
> was installed very simply - just ONE command.

It does not work because you don't have any repository with that
package. Thunderbird, on the other hand, must be available from the
repositories you have currently configured in your system.

The list of package repositories used by the package manager in your
system is at /etc/apt/sources.list. In order to add ubuntuzilla, you
need to add a line to this file (as superuser/root), pointing to the
ubuntuzilla repositories:

deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all 
main

and then you need to import a GPG public key and update the package
list. After this, you should be able to install seamonkey-mozilla-build.

The commands are in [1], which also links to a "GUI tutorial"[2].

[1] https://sourceforge.net/p/ubuntuzilla/wiki/Main_Page/#installation
[2] https://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ubuntuzilla

(Apologies for any mistake, I don't frequently use debian, ubuntu or
other systems with apt. I hope the ubuntuzilla I found is the correct
one.)

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Re: Strange "SeaMonkey outdated" message

2019-07-14 Thread Nuno Silva
(I am replying again as my previous post apparently did not make it to
the newsgroup. Apologies if this shows up twice!)

On 2019-07-13, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I see this
> https://wp.me/p7kLBG-hB
> message also with  Latest Unofficial build 20190329130005 (2.53) by
> user wg9s. I can't remember to have seen that before - any ideas why
> this message does appear?

In order to disable this warning, try setting (in about:config)
app.updatecheck.override to true.

(If it doesn't exist, add it using the context menu (New->Boolean).)


References:
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1346171#c2

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Re: Not A Robot

2019-05-19 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-05-20, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2019-05-19, Tom Pamin wrote:
>
>> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
> [...]
>>>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>>>
>>>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>>>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
>>>
>>> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
>>> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
>>> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
>>> The list is long with lots of things to try.
>>>
>> I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too?
>> So far nothing has worked.
>
> That's probably "Image Acceptance Policy" (preferences window, "Privacy
> & Security" -> "Images"), which can be set to block third-party/remote
> images.
>
>
> Images from specific sources could also be blocked:
>
> There might be a better way to do this, but check the "Page Info" for
> the problematic page (ctrl+I or context menu->"View Page Info"). The
> "Media" tab has a list of items in the page, see if the missing images
> are there and if the "block images from [hostname]..."  checkbox is
> checked.

(And the "Manage Permissions" button in "Privacy & Security" -> "Images"
offers another way of checking/managing these site-specific blocks.)

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Re: Not A Robot

2019-05-19 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-05-19, Tom Pamin wrote:

> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not seeing the images to select for the I Am Not A Robot
>>>>>>>>> authorizations. Just a blank square. It works fine with IE. Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just tried SM in Safe Mode. Still no images showing.
[...]
>>>> I'll try my other PC's in the next couple days. Does seem strange that
>>>> all other images on SM display fine, except for those Captcha ones.
>>>
>>> Only one PC out of my 5 has the robot problem. Any ideas what I can
>>> compare to see why this one PC is different?
>>
>> Make sure that block images from remote sources is not checked.
>> Reset your DNS device (router, etc) and then try.
>> Turn off AV and fire wall and try.
>> The list is long with lots of things to try.
>>
> I see block images under email, but is it under the browser prefs too?
> So far nothing has worked.

That's probably "Image Acceptance Policy" (preferences window, "Privacy
& Security" -> "Images"), which can be set to block third-party/remote
images.


Images from specific sources could also be blocked:

There might be a better way to do this, but check the "Page Info" for
the problematic page (ctrl+I or context menu->"View Page Info"). The
"Media" tab has a list of items in the page, see if the missing images
are there and if the "block images from [hostname]..."  checkbox is
checked.

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Re: URLs missing from download manager

2019-05-02 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-05-02, Felix Miata wrote:

> David E. Ross composed on 2019-05-01 08:20 (UTC-0700):
>
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>
>>> Is there a setting in about:config I can set to put automatic downloads 
>>> URLs in
>>> the manager even though I've aborted them? Some source pages don't put the 
>>> backup
>>> source URL where it's discoverable. I don't download anything with a 
>>> browser. I
>>> use a downloader, usually wget, which allows me instant and easy selection 
>>> of
>>> download location, saved filename editing, and preservation of the source 
>>> file's
>>> timestamp, not to mention resume after interrupt.
>
>> At the far right of the Download Manager window in the same line as Name
>> and just under the Clear List button, you should see a strange icon.
>> Select that icon.  In the resulting pull-down menu, select Source to
>> place a checkmark there. 
>
> That's already there. The problem is nothing shows up in the download manager
> unless a download is allowed to begin, which means if I want access to the 
> URL I
> have to waste my time finding a partial download and deleting it, or nothing 
> at
> all ever shows up on the window.

I would be interested in a feature like this as well. I wonder if the
"open in browser" extension could be modified to offer a "copy URL to
Primary/Clipboard" option in the "What should Seamonkey do with this
file?" dialog...

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Re: Language prefs misread?

2019-03-28 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-03-26, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> I have SM set to accept three languages, in the following order:
>>
>> Edit | Preferences | Browser | Languages
>>
>> Websites are sometimes available in more than one language. Choose
>> languages for displaying web pages, in order of preference.
>>
>> Languages in order of preference:
>>  English [en]
>>  Russian [ru]
>>  Korean [ko]
>>
>> Most sites honor these preferences, but one does not:
>> <https://support.viki.com/hc/articles/115011255127-Viki-Comment-Policy>
>>
>> If I visit this page using SM with Korean listed anywhere -- first,
>> second, or third -- it will redirect to the Korean version of the
>> page:
>> <https://support.viki.com/hc/ko/articles/115011255127-Viki-Comment-Policy>
>>
>> If I delete Korean from the list and clear cache and cookies, I get
>> redirected to the English version:
>> <https://support.viki.com/hc/en-us/articles/115011255127-Viki-Comment-Policy>
>>  
>>
>> But as soon as I restore Korean to the list, even if I list it as my
>> third choice, the site goes back to serving the Korean version.
>>
>> I have the same preference set in Internet Exploiter 11, and the
>> site always serves the English version.
>>
>> What do you think? Is this a bug in SM? Or is it just me?
>
> The browser indicates the preferred languages to the server through a
> header in the request, in this case:
>> Accept-Language: en,ru;q=0.7,ko;q=0.3
>
> That looks reasonable to me, indicating that English is preferred but
> Russian and Korean are also acceptable. It is then up to the server to
> decide which language to return. In this case, it appears the server
> decides to return Korean (I see the same as you, once I realised that
> it redirects to a language-specific URI so just refreshing isn't
> sufficient to try different options!) That does seem strange, given
> that an English version is available, but it doesn't look SeaMonkey is
> doing anything wrong as far as I can see.
>
> It's not clear to me whether the server is required to select a
> language strictly using the weightings specified by the browser, or
> whether it's free to make it's own choice which may or may not be
> influenced by the specified weighting. It's certainly acceptable for a
> server to return a language which isn't listed if none of those listed
> are supported (that's explicitly stated as being encouraged, in
> preference to returning an error).
>
> I'm not sure why the behaviour would be different from IE. It does
> seem necessary to clear the cookies, otherwise you get redirected to
> the same language as before - presumably you're clearing cookies set
> by viki.com when trying IE? It's also possible that the server for
> some reason responds differently depending on other headers, e.g. the
> user-agent, or that IE does something different.

From my testing here (after adding Korean to the list), it looks like
the english version of that page is only served if you have
"English/United States" first in the list, just "English" isn't enough.

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Re: How set default text encoding display in Seamonkey Mail ?

2019-03-05 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-03-05, Rubens wrote:

>>> Rubens wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am receiving some Unicode-encoded e-mails which look garbled because
>>>> Seamonkey always try to display them with Western encoding in the first 
>>>> place,
>>>> so I always have to manually change the Text Encoding option for every 
>>>> Unicode e-mail I read.
>>>>
>>>> In the "Text Encoding - Message Display" preferences setting I
>>>> tried both the "Default for current locale" and the "Other
>>>> (including Western European)"
>>>> but none gets what I need (to force opening every e-mail in Unicode 
>>>> viewing mode).
>>>>
>>>> Can anybody help ? My Seamonkey version is 2.49.4, language UK
>>>> English and my OS is Windows 7  Pro 64-bit, language US English.
>>>>
[...]
> Hi guys, any more ideas on this ? It is really annoying to have to change 
> setting for every read e-mail.

I don't have a solution to offer, but what you describe sounds
slightly strange.

I have seen broken e-mail messages, where some piece of software manages
to do something in a wrong way, and one thing that can go wrong is the
content encoding. But, when this happens, you'd only see the problem in
messages sent using that software, and not in all messages.  This is
what sounds strange to me. Can you confirm that this problem occurs with
*all* messages? Or, at least, all e-mail messages? (I'll add some
unicode-only characters just before the signature so that you can check
whether this post is affected by the same problem.)

It might be that there is some setting I'm not aware of, that does
exactly what you are looking for (a way to force a given encoding), and
it is currently set to the "wrong" encoding.

Are you using anything that intercepts e-mail messages before they reach
Seamonkey? (I believe some "internet security" software packages offer
this as a feature.)


Open/select one of the affected messages and look at its source (CTRL+U
or "View->Message Source"). Can you locate the problematic text?

If so, could you please copy the content of the latest Content-Type
header that precedes it? This should be one line beginning with
"Content-Type: ", possibly followed by more lines beginning with space
or tab (I believe I got this right, somebody please correct me if I'm
wrong...), like this:

Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=utf-8

What I am curious about is the charset=... part of the header.

While you are viewing the source, please copy the User-Agent header as
well, if it exists.


Unicode characters:
- trademark mark: ™
- superscript 9: ⁹
- :-) smiley: ☺

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Re: Should the size of the memory cache be a setting in preferences?

2019-02-27 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-02-27, Dirk Munk wrote:

>
> My friendly advise to the Seamonkey developers would be to go over all
> the settings, and remove memory constraints. Yes, it will increase the
> memory footprint of 64 bit Seamonkey, but if a user has a problem with
> that, he should increase the memory in his system, or stick to the 32
> bit version.

I'd say "increase" the setting, not "remove" the constraint.

> My experience with removing memory constraints is that applications
> become much more stable as well. No hangs, no crashes etc.

This setting is named "memory cache". What does this do, exactly? If it
is actually about caching content from the Internet, wouldn't increasing
it only make sense if you request the same content several times?

Or is this setting actually controlling how much memory Seamonkey can
allocate for any purpose?

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browser.contentHandlers.types.* (was: Re: dropbox forum fail with seamonkey)

2019-02-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-02-26, Daniel wrote:

> meagain wrote on 26/02/2019 1:26 AM:
>>
>> [ BTW, In the config file I noticed a batch of
>>
>> browser.contentHandlers.types.0.title;Feedly
>>
>> up to ...types.5...  which seem excessive - are these needed?]
>>
> Sorry, Meagain, that's beyond my knowledge. Maybe someone else will
> drop by with the relevant knowledge  or, better yet, you could
> start another thread asking this question.

I have these settings here too. Looking at their values, these seem to
be the known handlers for RSS and Atom feeds. These will be shown, for
example, on top of the default(?) browser view for such feeds, in the
drop-down box next to "Subscribe to this feed using".

(If you need an example feed to check this:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom )

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Re: LastPass

2019-01-27 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-01-27, WaltS48 wrote:

> On 1/26/19 7:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote on 27-01-19 01:30:
>>> r wrote on 26-01-19 23:48:
>>>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>>>> r wrote:
>>>>>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>>>>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass
>>>>>>>>> that works with Seamonkey?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works
>>>>>>>>> reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need
>>>>>>>>> the *.xpi file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are lots of references to these older versions in
>>>>>>>>> newsgroups and forums, but the links I've found are all dead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the dead links you might try
>>>>>>>> Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
>>>>>>>> http://archive.org/web/web.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with
>>>>>>>>> the extension converter.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks - I should have thought of that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have
>>>>>>> been scrubbed from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I
>>>>>>> can't find them on Wayback either.
>>>>>> If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is
>>>>>> stored.
>>>>>> Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
>>>>>> Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while
>>>>>> SeaMonkey  is running on your new computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Drag it into Seamonkey how?
>>>>>
>>>>> It won't import using the add-on manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> I copied into the profile folder "Extensions"; no luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I literally dragged into a SM browser window, and it opened the
>>>>> folder to show its subfolders, but nothing more
>>>>
>>>> Have the .xpi file on your desktop.
>>>> Minimize the SeaMonkey window to about 1/2 of your screen size
>>>> You may have to drag the lower right corner to do this.
>>>> It's 6 small dots in the shape of a triangle.
>>>> Then with SeaMonkey opened in the smaller window drag the .xpi
>>>> file into   SeaMonkey.
>>>> Drag is to hold down the right mouse button and move the file to
>>>> where you want it.
>>>> Rodney
>>> I think that the last sentence must be:
>>> Drag is to hold down the LEFT mouse button and move the file to
>>> where you want it.
>> Another method could work also:
>> In SM Browser part go to "File" - "Open File.." Browse ...and select
>> the .xpi file then click on "OPEN"
>
> Whatever happened to:
>
> Save the file to your Downloads folder
> Open SeaMonkey
> Click Tools > Add-ons Manager
> Select Extensions
> Click the gear wheel next to the "Search all add-ons" search bar
> Click "Install Add-on From File"
> When the file manager window opens select the Downloads folder
> Select the extension and install it.
>
> 

All these instructions are for XPI files. What Bill has is a *folder*.

After confirming that the contents of the folder do look like an
extension, there are two ideas:

- Zip the contents of that LastPass folder, rename the ZIP archive .XPI,
  and use that file to install

- Copy that LastPass extension folder to the extensions/ folder of the
  new profile

But, from what I read, Bill has already tried the second one. Does it
show up in about:addons? Did Seamonkey print any error message the first
time it started with the LastPass directory under extensions/ ?

I think Seamonkey should have asked you about installing LastPass if it
did recognize the extension.

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Re: LastPass

2019-01-25 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2019-01-25, Bill Spikowski wrote:

> r wrote:
>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>>>> Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works 
>>>>> with Seamonkey?
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works
>>>>> reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need the
>>>>> *.xpi file.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are lots of references to these older versions in
>>>>> newsgroups and forums, but the links I've found are all dead.
[...]
>> If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
>> Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
>> Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey  is 
>> running on your new computer.
>
> I go into this folder and find quite a few *.xpi files for known
> extensions; but none for Lastpass. Same on my laptop.
>
> There are also a dozen or so *.xpi with random strings of characters
> before the extension; one of those may be hiding Lastpass, but I can't
> find any evidence of it.
[...]

Check the extensions table in about:support - here it looks like the
values in the "ID" column are the names (without ".xpi") of the
extension files.

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Re: Following links to extensions

2018-12-31 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-28, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2018-12-28, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>>> SeaMonkey tries to install an xpi immediately this way. Better to
>>> provide it as a zip or go to http://www.rossde.com/test/ and then use
>>> "Save Link Target As".
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> Any chance this could be modified in the future to offer a "Save as..."
>> option as well?
>>
>
> Would need a bug filed and a patch to support it. I pass on both :)

No problem. That such a patch would be welcome already means a lot!

(I do not have a patch for that and I have never looked at the codebase,
so I can't write one, at least not right now.)

> Also not sure if it can be done in suite code or needs modifications
> in Gecko too. If Firefox already has it should be easier. Didn't look.
>
> FRG

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Following links to extensions (was: Re: Password/Data Manager Export)

2018-12-28 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-28, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

> SeaMonkey tries to install an xpi immediately this way. Better to
> provide it as a zip or go to http://www.rossde.com/test/ and then use
> "Save Link Target As".
>
> FRG

Any chance this could be modified in the future to offer a "Save as..."
option as well?

> Daniel wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote on 28/12/2018 5:09 AM:
>>> On 12/22/2018 1:44 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>> cyberzen wrote on 22/12/2018 7:37 PM:
>>>>> David E. Ross a écrit :
>>>>>> You can download it from
>>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> this url can't work
>>>>> (the file is on your drive D:)
>>>>>
>>>> Yeap!! When I clicked on David's link, I got ...
>>>>
>>>> Quote
>>>> File Not Found
>>>>
>>>> The file /D:/Web/myWeb/VCnet/test/password_exporter-1.3.4-sm.xpi cannot
>>>> be found. Please check the location and try again.
>>>> End Quote
>>>>
>>>> ... which is fair, 'cause my D: is (I think) my (empty) DVD drive!!
>>>
>>> Oops!!  The correct link is
>>> <http://www.rossde.com/test/password_exporter-1.3.4-sm.xpi>.
>>>
>> Hey, David, when I clicked your link this time, I get a sub-screen
>> offering to install ...
>>
>> http://www.rossde.com/test/password_exporter-1.3.4-sm.xpi
>>
>> with 'Install' and 'Cancel' buttons. Is this correct??
>>

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Re: What is the last SM ESR to use npapi plugins?

2018-12-26 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-25, WaltS48 wrote:

> On 12/25/18 4:16 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> What is the last SM ESR to use npapi plugins?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I believe it is this one based on Firefox 52.0 ESR.
>
> "For enterprise users who require Java in particular, Firefox 52
> Extended Support Release (ESR) will keep the plug-in support enabled
> until August 2018."
>
> <https://www.fxsitecompat.com/en-CA/docs/2016/plug-in-support-has-been-dropped-other-than-flash/>

Is there any version of Seamonkey which does not support NPAPI? The one
WaltS48 mentioned is probably Seamonkey 2.49.*, so I guess my question
is: do the unofficial/testing betas after 2.49 still have NPAPI support?

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Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...

2018-12-23 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-22, user@domain.invalid wrote:

> First of all, as a Seamonkey user from day one I have to say a big
> thanks to all the the people involved in keeping this project alive
> and providing such a fantastic web suite for so many years! Your work
> is really appreciated and I think most users do fully understand how
> much of your time and effort is needed to get this done.
>
> That being said: after reading the blog update I'm not very optimistic
> about the options the seamonkey project has because in my optinion
> Seamonkey will have to go for Quantum in order to keep up with the web
> standards and new technology. Without an competitive rendering engine
> it will not have any future. And if this means that classic extensions
> will no longer be supported or loved features will have to be dropped
> then it should be done. Because without an up to date engine Seamonkey
> will not be able to appeal to new users and long time users will
> slowly move on as well. I.e. in my optinion Seamonkey would not have a
> future without an up-to-date engine.

Are you really sure nobody would be interested in Seamonkey if it does
not chase Firefox?

It is okay to prefer it to be this way or that way personally, but I
think you're making a big mistake by assuming *nobody* would be
interested in the other options.

> Would it maybe be possible to build some XUL layer on top of Quantum?
> I mean a way to still provide the needed interfaces for XUL, but in
> the end render everything using the new engine?
>
> In any case, I think it would be better to spend effort into migration
> to something future oriented, even if it means to lose loved features
> or functionality, than to spend the effort in keeping something
> outdated alive.
>
> Whatever the future of the Seamonkey project will be, I'm very
> thankful for the people caring for the project and supporting it.
> You're all great!
>
> Ant schrieb:
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/12/19/updating-everyone/

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Navigator address bar: copying URLs with spaces

2018-12-17 Thread Nuno Silva
A few days ago, I noticed that Seamonkey Navigator does not
percent-encode spaces in the address bar.

If I select the address bar text, spaces are also not percent-encoded
when Seamonkey sets the X11 primary selection (which is how I usually
copy addresses from the browser to paste elsewhere).

Is there some setting that controls this, or other way to make Seamonkey
percent-encode the address before setting the primary selection? (It is
fine if such a setting/change requires the displayed address bar text to
be percent-encoded.)

Copying with ctrl+C does percent-encode spaces *and* sets primary, so,
worst case, I could use that as a workaround, but I'd prefer to make it
work without ctrl+C (and without setting the clipboard).

(Spaces are just an example, this applies as well to all other
characters which would usually be percent-encoded.)

If you need example URLs to check for this behaviour:

https://www.google.com/search?q=foo%20bar

https://www.bing.com/search?q=foo%20bar


To avoid any confusion: This post is about a feature specific to
Seamonkey running on the X Window System. Some people in this group
might have never heard about X11 selections - for a short description,
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(computing)#X_Window_System

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Re: Where are data manager datas stored in SeaMonkey v2.49.4?

2018-12-12 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-12-11, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Ant wrote:
>
>> Oh. Hmm, how come in web browser's URL, it still remembers my past
>> histories even though I cleared them out?
>
> "Location Bar History" and "Browsing History" are two different
> things:

Depending on your preferences ("Browser->Location bar" in the
preferences window), the location bar might also show results from
your bookmarks.

You can play with these options to be sure that the results you see are
coming from the browser history.

But a better way to see if history is being cleared is to open the
History window (Ctrl+H or Go->History) and write : in the upper right
corner "Search History" input box. This should show up most/all entries,
and if it is not empty after telling Seamonkey to delete the browsing
history, then it is indeed the history that is not getting cleared.

(If it is empty, you probably don't even need to search for ":" to see
that - I suppose it should have no folders/directories in the list at
all?)

> Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data
>
> If you want SM to clear both, check both.

It should also be possible to temporarily enable/disable these options
in the "clear private data" dialog itself (Ctrl+Shift+Del or
Tools->Clear Private Data).

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Re: Where are data manager datas stored in SeaMonkey v2.49.4?

2018-12-10 Thread Nuno Silva
(I'm sorry if I'm asking about something you already wrote before, I
tried getting the parent articles but the post has no References:?)

On 2018-12-10, Ant wrote:

> On 11/17/2018 7:32 PM, Ant wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 11:16 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> I re(nam/mov)ed my profile's places.sqlite, cookies.sqlite, and
>>> permission.sqlite but still see a list of domains in my data
>>> manager. Where are those stores?
>>
>> I told SM to clear ALL private datas. It took almost a minute to
>> complete due to my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC but I
>> still see them. I'm still confused where SM's Data Manager is
>> getting my past histories from.
>
> No one knows? :(

What kind of information is being kept?  The data manager tries to show
everything in one place (including per-domain/host zoom levels and
download directories, for example), can you check several domains and
see which tabs are not greyed/inactive?

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Re: Migrating FF profiles to Seamonkey

2018-11-28 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-11-28, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2018-11-27, Ant wrote:
>
>> On 11/27/2018 8:16 AM, EE wrote:
>>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Seamonkey Navigator has been my main web browser for more than a year
>>>> now, but I still have a few user profiles left in Firefox.
[...]
>
> Today I tried to do the migration by moving the profile directories and
> it worked. There are some settings I still have to set or tweak, but
> other than that, so far everything seems to show up in Seamonkey:
> passwords, cookies, history, even some extensions.
>
> And it feels faster than Firefox.

I should have added "... for the same web page with the same profile".

That was just a comment - I was happily surprised -; there's no proper
scientific study behind my affirmation :-)

It is also possible that some Firefox-only setting was slowing things
down...

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Re: Migrating FF profiles to Seamonkey

2018-11-28 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-11-27, Ant wrote:

> On 11/27/2018 8:16 AM, EE wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Seamonkey Navigator has been my main web browser for more than a year
>>> now, but I still have a few user profiles left in Firefox.
>>>
>>> What would be the best way to move these profiles to Seamonkey? I would
>>> like to preserve as much of the original profiles as possible,
>>> including:
>>>
>>> - History
>>> - Bookmarks
>>> - Preferences
>>> - Installed extensions, if compatible
>>>    (there are no webextensions)
>>> - passwords and cookies
>>> - userContent.css
>>>
>>> Could/should I just move the profile directories to
>>> $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey and add them to profiles.ini?
>>>
>>>
>>> (Is there some way I could then disable Mail only in these migrated
>>> profiles?)
>>>
>> The file places.sqlite has history and bookmarks.  I have no idea if
>> they are cross-compatible any more, however.  Bookmarks are easy
>> enough to transfer.  Back them up or export as HTML and restore or
>> import into SeaMonkey.
>
> SM v2.49.4's old places.sqlite will work in the newer Firefox
> versions, but not in reversed. Firefox will upgrade it.
>
>
>> I imagine that some preference settings have changed, so comparing
>> them by comparing prefs.js files or from about:config would be a
>> good idea. Since SeaMonkey does newsgroups and email as well, there
>> are a lot more preference settings for it.
>>
>> If the extensions for Firefox were also written for SeaMonkey, there
>> would be no problem, but I would check install.rdf in the .xpi files
>> to make sure that they would be compatible with the target app
>> (SeaMonkey) version.  If the extensions were not written for
>> SeaMonkey, then running them through the converter website
>> (http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/) might be able to fix them. 
>> That would depend on whether the extension needs a specific
>> interface or not.
>>
>> To transfer passwords, you need to copy key3.db and logins.json.
>>
>> For cookies, you need cookies.sqlite.
>>
>> You could simply copy the chrome directory into the new profile for
>> userContent.css.
>
> For me, I usually skip all this, redo them from scratch, etc. since I
> only care about my places.sqlite. Everything else can be recovered.

Thanks for all the replies!,

The reason why I wanted to avoid doing things by hand or from scratch is
that it's not just one, but five separate profiles.

Today I tried to do the migration by moving the profile directories and
it worked. There are some settings I still have to set or tweak, but
other than that, so far everything seems to show up in Seamonkey:
passwords, cookies, history, even some extensions.

And it feels faster than Firefox.

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Re: Migrating FF profiles to Seamonkey

2018-11-27 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2018-11-27, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

> 2.53 has the Firefox Library ported and should be compatible with at
> least 58. 2.49.x has an older version. But I agree. Just use a
> bookmarks export and redo the profile.
>
> FRG

With which Firefox versions would 2.49.x be compatible? Some of the
Firefox profiles are from Firefox 52.

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Migrating FF profiles to Seamonkey

2018-11-26 Thread Nuno Silva
Hello,

Seamonkey Navigator has been my main web browser for more than a year
now, but I still have a few user profiles left in Firefox.

What would be the best way to move these profiles to Seamonkey? I would
like to preserve as much of the original profiles as possible,
including:

- History
- Bookmarks
- Preferences
- Installed extensions, if compatible
  (there are no webextensions)
- passwords and cookies
- userContent.css

Could/should I just move the profile directories to
$HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey and add them to profiles.ini?


(Is there some way I could then disable Mail only in these migrated
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