Re: Win 7/Win 10 support?

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On 7/23/2019 12:55 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I'm surprised. I remember when Win8 came out it was widely panned. My 
impression was that M$ was alternating between serious systems that 
power users like me appreciated (Win2000 Pro, WinXP Pro, Win7 Pro) and 
playware that held dabblers' hands every step of the way (WinMe, 
Vista); Win8 fit the latter description. Then when Win10 came out, 
even with the various issues, I had the impression it was the pro type 
(this from someone who wasn't shopping, so wasn't reading closely). 
And of course as usual I waited for the beta testers ("early 
adopters") to shake out the bugs before trying it. :-)


So in your opinion they're still trying to fix Win10?



WinME was the successor to Win95 and Win98, it was known right from the 
start that it was the end of the line for that code base and the quality 
suffered accordingly.
Windows NT 4 begat Win2000, and then WinXP, Vista, Win7, Win8(.1) and 
Win10.  When Microsoft skipped "Windows 9" and went straight to 10, my 
initial feeling was that they were skipping the next "decent version". 
That turned out not to be the reason for the jump, programmers had been 
testing for the string "Windows 9" to detect Win95 and Win98 hosts.


They are not "still trying to fix" Win10, they bring out a new feature 
update every 6 months and this tight schedule means some serious bugs 
get missed.  The new beta testers are those who apply those feature 
updates when they come out rather than waiting a few months.


Finally, worrying about compatability between Seamonkey and Windows 10 
does not really make sense - Windows 10 has been out for a few years now 
and a large proportion of the Seamonkey users are exposed to it.




Well thankfully they put to rest with 1903 the 6 months new windows 10 
cadence! It's going to be once a year going forward.

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Re: Win 7/Win 10 support?

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On 7/22/2019 11:00 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I tested 2.49.5 on Windows 10 x64 1809.

I regularly test 2.53 and 2.57 on Windows Server 2016 (based on 10 
14393) and 10 1903 (latest and greatest).


Personally I moved to 8.1. Support till 2023 and not such a sh*thole 
like 10. With open-shell quite usable. Never thought I would say 
something good about 8.x but ever changing 10 is a telemetry riddled 
privacy risk and beta quality software,


If problems come up they will only be fixed for 2.53 and up.

There was a problem with regular expressions with 10 and 2.49.4. Some 
websites didn't work. I think MS fixed it. If not 2.49.5 takes care of it.


Back up your full profile on an external drive.

FRG

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On 7/22/2019 8:25 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

To whom it may concern:

As you may have heard, M$ is ending support for the popular but 
antiquated Windows 7 operating system in January. Accordingly, I'm 
planning to upgrade to Windows 10.


Since SeaMonkey is a mission-critical application for me, is there 
anything I should know about the transition, or will it be seamless 
with respect to SM?


Thanks.

 





If SM is mission critical, you may want to at least have a plan B in 
place should something happen to SM down the road. A couple of folks 
are still plugging away at support for SM but not like it was a decade 
ago. Realistically, if you do an in-place upgrade from Win 7 to 10 
(which still works), SM operation should be seamless.


Cool. I'm sure the OP will see this and at least know so more info.
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Re: Win 7/Win 10 support?

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On 7/22/2019 8:25 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

To whom it may concern:

As you may have heard, M$ is ending support for the popular but 
antiquated Windows 7 operating system in January. Accordingly, I'm 
planning to upgrade to Windows 10.


Since SeaMonkey is a mission-critical application for me, is there 
anything I should know about the transition, or will it be seamless with 
respect to SM?


Thanks.

 





If SM is mission critical, you may want to at least have a plan B in 
place should something happen to SM down the road. A couple of folks are 
still plugging away at support for SM but not like it was a decade ago. 
Realistically, if you do an in-place upgrade from Win 7 to 10 (which 
still works), SM operation should be seamless.

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Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

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On 4/24/2019 2:50 PM, Brian Mailman wrote:

Windows 10
Seamonkey 2.48

Hi, I'm now receiving a notice of "Unsupported Browser" and that my 
Seamonkey is "outdated" when I try to go to davita.com .


The notice recommends Firefox, among others. I forget where the setting 
is, but I do have this copy of Seamonkey set to identify itself as Firefox!


Help?  Thanks in advance.

B/



Although it's not official, you could always try the .ZIP of Bill's 
build of 2.53 from here: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/. I'd back up your 
profile for sure.


I was using the 2.57 build for a while until something recently started 
breaking and I basically finally gave up and switched over to FF (at 
least until or if ever it's released via Mozilla)

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Re: "All humors aside… ;("

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On 2/18/2019 10:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Personally I think eowng is always to harsh on himself. This is a big 
task where others do it with 10 or more people. Mozilla with a lot more...


While this is currently an uphill battle once it is done I expect future 
releases to go a lot smoother than today. Not having to cope with the 
daily lets reinvent the wheel mozilla infrastructure change makes things 
a lot simpler. And until then we still have Bills builds.


So cheers to ewong for not giving up! :)

FRG


Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/02/18/all-humors-aside/

A long read. :(


Truly a Herculean task. Cheers for EWong.
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

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On 9/24/2018 3:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



This something Google changed on their end and it affects Seamonkey.
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