Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?

2009-08-01 Thread Dick Baker
Beryl flyingterra...@chillybits.org wrote in
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 Got a QuickTime applet in the Windows Control Panel? Configure it
 there. Browser plug-ins and File Type Associations are two different
 things. 
 
Yes, I do, and it led me to the QT preferences window, but just before I 
saw your note, I had seen another on the WinXP group (the problem affected 
IE as well as SM, so I asked there as well) directing me to

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Using+the+QuickTime+plugin+with+Firefox

That page showed me how to get into the preferences tab on the QT player, 
where I found that, inexplicably, .mp3 files were still associated with QT, 
even though I had expressly *deselected* that association when I installed 
QT.


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Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?

2009-07-30 Thread Beryl

Dick Baker wrote:

Martin Feitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote in
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Dick Baker schrieb:

For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged
by the fact that it seizes all video  audio file associations
without asking.  Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs.

But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an
iPhone, and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it
prefers tutorials in *.mov format.  So I gingerly tried again to
install the latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2).  To my
pleasant surprise, it actually presented an installation option for
file and MIME type associations.  For both, I deselected *everything*
except Apple QT movies (*.mov).

And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any
file associations on the computer.  BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went
to my twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I
discovered that both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were
using QT as the default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows
Media Player, which is what I prefer.

Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to
  EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found
  audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default

Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default.  So I tried to edit that
entry to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle
this type internally.  For such types, a helper app will only be
invoked if the server requests external handling.  I went ahead and
made the choice, but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com: 
mp3s still played by QT.


So I got deviously clever:  I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and
uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under
docs  settings.  I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to
let it seize any file associations.  And I checked:  WMP was still
the default app for playing mp3 files.

Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey.  And to my surprise and horror,
the new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime.

What in the world is going on?  QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to
tell it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there
when I installed QT on the notebook.  And SeaMonkey isn't getting the
mp3=QT association from Windows because it's not there.

I am completely flummoxed.
You were almost there I guess. But the plugins are installed into the 
program directory, not the profile-directory in documentssettings.

So after uninstalling SM make sure to not have a plugins directory
with a quicktime plugin left there in the Seamonkey program directory.

Alternatively you can try to find all QT-plugin-files by opening 
about:plugins (via the address-bar where you type things like 
www.google.com etc.) in a Seamonkey Browser window.

Have a look for all Quicktime Entries there. They always name a
filename below their headline.
It's very likely that they are named npqtplugin.dll and
npqtplugin*.dll (where * is a number from 2 to 5 for example). So find
all QT-filenames in your about:plugin-screen, let them search on your
harddrive and delete all of them. That should wipe out all Quicktime
plugins. Usually the files are located in X:\Program
Files\Seamonkey\plugins (where X: is the driveletter of your
windows-partition, C: on most computers), mine is in
D:\Progs\Seamonkey\Plugins for example. I guess you know where you
installed your SM to ;-) kind regards

Martin



Martin,
Thanks for detailed and logical advice, but it didn't work.

First, there was no npqt*.dll file under Seamonkey\plugins, so I tried 
the about:plugins trick, which reported that I had QuickTime Plug-in 
7.6.2 installed with the filename npqtplugin.dll.


A search of the C: drive for that file discovered two copies, in
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS
and  C:\Program Files\Quicktime\Plugins

I deleted both--and nothing changed!  (I also searched for npqt*.* to 
make sure there wasn't a variant lurking somewhere else.)  Both Internet 
Explorer and SeaMonkey still insist on playing MP3 files with QuickTime.  
As I mentioned in my first note, Windows Media Player is the program 
associated with MP3 in Windows, so what in the heck is QT doing to force 
the browsers to use it?


Got a QuickTime applet in the Windows Control Panel? Configure it there. 
Browser plug-ins and File Type Associations are two different things.

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Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?

2009-07-29 Thread Dick Baker
Martin Feitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote in
news:h4ce77$cp...@news.albasani.net: 

 Dick Baker schrieb:
 For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged
 by the fact that it seizes all video  audio file associations
 without asking.  Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs.

 But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an
 iPhone, and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it
 prefers tutorials in *.mov format.  So I gingerly tried again to
 install the latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2).  To my
 pleasant surprise, it actually presented an installation option for
 file and MIME type associations.  For both, I deselected *everything*
 except Apple QT movies (*.mov).

 And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any
 file associations on the computer.  BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went
 to my twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I
 discovered that both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were
 using QT as the default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows
 Media Player, which is what I prefer.

 Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to
   EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found
   audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default

 Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default.  So I tried to edit that
 entry to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle
 this type internally.  For such types, a helper app will only be
 invoked if the server requests external handling.  I went ahead and
 made the choice, but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com: 
 mp3s still played by QT.

 So I got deviously clever:  I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and
 uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under
 docs  settings.  I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to
 let it seize any file associations.  And I checked:  WMP was still
 the default app for playing mp3 files.

 Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey.  And to my surprise and horror,
 the new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime.

 What in the world is going on?  QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to
 tell it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there
 when I installed QT on the notebook.  And SeaMonkey isn't getting the
 mp3=QT association from Windows because it's not there.

 I am completely flummoxed.
 
 You were almost there I guess. But the plugins are installed into the 
 program directory, not the profile-directory in documentssettings.
 So after uninstalling SM make sure to not have a plugins directory
 with a quicktime plugin left there in the Seamonkey program directory.
 
 Alternatively you can try to find all QT-plugin-files by opening 
 about:plugins (via the address-bar where you type things like 
 www.google.com etc.) in a Seamonkey Browser window.
 Have a look for all Quicktime Entries there. They always name a
 filename below their headline.
 It's very likely that they are named npqtplugin.dll and
 npqtplugin*.dll (where * is a number from 2 to 5 for example). So find
 all QT-filenames in your about:plugin-screen, let them search on your
 harddrive and delete all of them. That should wipe out all Quicktime
 plugins. Usually the files are located in X:\Program
 Files\Seamonkey\plugins (where X: is the driveletter of your
 windows-partition, C: on most computers), mine is in
 D:\Progs\Seamonkey\Plugins for example. I guess you know where you
 installed your SM to ;-) kind regards
 
 Martin
 

Martin,
Thanks for detailed and logical advice, but it didn't work.

First, there was no npqt*.dll file under Seamonkey\plugins, so I tried 
the about:plugins trick, which reported that I had QuickTime Plug-in 
7.6.2 installed with the filename npqtplugin.dll.

A search of the C: drive for that file discovered two copies, in
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS
and  C:\Program Files\Quicktime\Plugins

I deleted both--and nothing changed!  (I also searched for npqt*.* to 
make sure there wasn't a variant lurking somewhere else.)  Both Internet 
Explorer and SeaMonkey still insist on playing MP3 files with QuickTime.  
As I mentioned in my first note, Windows Media Player is the program 
associated with MP3 in Windows, so what in the heck is QT doing to force 
the browsers to use it?

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Re: Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?

2009-07-24 Thread Martin Feitag

Dick Baker schrieb:

For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged by
the fact that it seizes all video  audio file associations without
asking.  Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs.

But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an iPhone,
and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it prefers
tutorials in *.mov format.  So I gingerly tried again to install the
latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2).  To my pleasant surprise, it
actually presented an installation option for file and MIME type
associations.  For both, I deselected *everything* except Apple QT movies
(*.mov).

And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any file
associations on the computer.  BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went to my
twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I discovered that
both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were using QT as the
default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows Media Player, which is
what I prefer.

Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to
EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found
audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default

Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default.  So I tried to edit that entry
to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle this type
internally.  For such types, a helper app will only be invoked if the
server requests external handling.  I went ahead and made the choice,
but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com:  mp3s still played by
QT.

So I got deviously clever:  I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and
uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under
docs  settings.  I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to let it
seize any file associations.  And I checked:  WMP was still the default
app for playing mp3 files.

Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey.  And to my surprise and horror, the
new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime.

What in the world is going on?  QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to tell
it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there when I
installed QT on the notebook.  And SeaMonkey isn't getting the mp3=QT
association from Windows because it's not there.

I am completely flummoxed.


You were almost there I guess. But the plugins are installed into the 
program directory, not the profile-directory in documentssettings.
So after uninstalling SM make sure to not have a plugins directory with 
a quicktime plugin left there in the Seamonkey program directory.


Alternatively you can try to find all QT-plugin-files by opening 
about:plugins (via the address-bar where you type things like 
www.google.com etc.) in a Seamonkey Browser window.
Have a look for all Quicktime Entries there. They always name a filename 
below their headline.
It's very likely that they are named npqtplugin.dll and npqtplugin*.dll 
(where * is a number from 2 to 5 for example). So find all QT-filenames 
in your about:plugin-screen, let them search on your harddrive and 
delete all of them. That should wipe out all Quicktime plugins.

Usually the files are located in X:\Program Files\Seamonkey\plugins
(where X: is the driveletter of your windows-partition, C: on most 
computers), mine is in D:\Progs\Seamonkey\Plugins for example. I guess 
you know where you installed your SM to ;-)

kind regards

Martin
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Apple QuickTime corrupts SeaMonkey--but how?

2009-07-23 Thread Dick Baker
For years, I've periodically tried installing QT only to be outraged by 
the fact that it seizes all video  audio file associations without 
asking.  Over and over, I've banished it from my PCs.

But now, in a moment of weakness (foolishness?), I've bought an iPhone, 
and it appears that Apple doesn't like PDF help files--it prefers 
tutorials in *.mov format.  So I gingerly tried again to install the 
latest version of QuickTime Player (7.6.2).  To my pleasant surprise, it 
actually presented an installation option for file and MIME type 
associations.  For both, I deselected *everything* except Apple QT movies 
(*.mov).

And, to my pleasant surprise, it does not seem to have seized any file 
associations on the computer.  BUT when I ran SeaMonkey and went to my 
twotonbaker.com site and tried to play mp3 files there, I discovered that 
both SeaMonkey (and, for what it's worth, MSIE) were using QT as the 
default player for mp3 files, instead of Windows Media Player, which is 
what I prefer.

Thinking I could undo this within SeaMonkey, I went to 
EditPreferences/NavigatorHelper apps, where I found 
audio/mpeg = .mp3 = open using default

Oddly, it still showed WMP as the default.  So I tried to edit that entry 
to set/reset default as WMP, but it reported, SM can handle this type 
internally.  For such types, a helper app will only be invoked if the 
server requests external handling.  I went ahead and made the choice, 
but this didn't change anything at twotonbaker.com:  mp3s still played by 
QT.

So I got deviously clever:  I pulled out my seldom-used Notebook and 
uninstalled SeaMonkey, including deleting the Mozilla directory under 
docs  settings.  I then installed QuickTime, being careful not to let it 
seize any file associations.  And I checked:  WMP was still the default 
app for playing mp3 files.

Only then did I reinstall SeaMonkey.  And to my surprise and horror, the 
new installation insisted on opening mp3 files in QuickTime.

What in the world is going on?  QT can't be rewriting SeaMonkey to tell 
it to use QT as the mp3 player, because SeaMonkey wasn't there when I 
installed QT on the notebook.  And SeaMonkey isn't getting the mp3=QT 
association from Windows because it's not there.

I am completely flummoxed.  
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