Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Ray Davison wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Your passwords are still in the profile 2.49.5 If you get the profiles out of the app, then there is then no such thing as a "2.49.5" profile. Yes there is because they are version specific. And there are reasons for a single profile for multiple app versions. One time, when looking for the date and time of a bug insertion I was using the same profile for twenty versions of SM, all loaded on the HDD side-by-side. Sorry you don't get it. This is not supported and breaks functionality. It now shows with 2.53.1 but was the case before. In every version migration routines run. They know how to fix backward stuff from a few previous versions but because time travel is not supported during code generation they know nothing about future changes. The guy said he lost his passwords when going back to 2.49.5. Not because of magic elves taking them away but because profile got upgraded and files deleted / changed. In this case you history is gone too and indexdb storage unusable. And going back some more versions and your cache gets corrupted. On going back to 2.35.1 you host permissions are reset and so on. It is ok to be stubborn as long as you are not wrong. In this case you are dead wrong. EOM FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Your passwords are still in the profile 2.49.5 If you get the profiles out of the app, then there is then no such thing as a "2.49.5" profile. There are many reasons for multiple profiles. You can then have as many profiles as you want and pick the one you want when you run the app. And there are reasons for a single profile for multiple app versions. One time, when looking for the date and time of a bug insertion I was using the same profile for twenty versions of SM, all loaded on the HDD side-by-side. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Ray Davison wrote: Dr.J.Elz-Fianda via support-seamonkey wrote: Dear experts, I have lost all stored passwords. Broken record alert! This is a companion to the "I lost my email" cry. The fix is, get the profile(s) away from the app, to a neutral place, on another partition. You can put them any place and name them anything you chose. My files began life in Netscape, and I have never "lost" them. I have posted how to do this many times, maybe I should post it somewhere and just point to it. Ray If you don't back it up before a possible destructive upgrade it can be on the moon and would still be trashed. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Dr.J.Elz-Fianda via support-seamonkey wrote: Dear experts, I have lost all stored passwords. Broken record alert! This is a companion to the "I lost my email" cry. The fix is, get the profile(s) away from the app, to a neutral place, on another partition. You can put them any place and name them anything you chose. My files began life in Netscape, and I have never "lost" them. I have posted how to do this many times, maybe I should post it somewhere and just point to it. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son schrieb: Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Having looked at https://seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ you have a big problem. Your first start of 2.53.1 reformatted some files and they are no longer readable onder the older level. It is all in the release notes above, look for the BIG RED WRITING at the top and the (bold) "Data loss warning:". Suggestion 1: Go back to 2.53.1 again. Suggestion 2: Take a full profile backup if you want to try and repair things, you are probably out of luck there but at least you should not do any further damage. 2 other questions: How is a backup of SeaMonkey internal data gone ? The old MozBackup doesn't work more. If I go to 2.53.1 again will I have my old passwords useable again ? thanks for help FRG knows far more about this stuff than I do, as does Rainer Nicht-existente-Stadt-in-NRW. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son schrieb: Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Having looked at https://seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ you have a big problem. Your first start of 2.53.1 reformatted some files and they are no longer readable onder the older level. It is all in the release notes above, look for the BIG RED WRITING at the top and the (bold) "Data loss warning:". Suggestion 1: Go back to 2.53.1 again. Suggestion 2: Take a full profile backup if you want to try and repair things, you are probably out of luck there but at least you should not do any further damage. 2 other questions: How is a backup of SeaMonkey internal data gone ? The old MozBackup doesn't work more. If I go to 2.53.1 again will I have my old passwords useable again ? thanks for help Nothing personal but that is what happens when you ignore release notes and warnings. If in doubt don't upgrade blindly. Your passwords are still in the profile 2.49.5 is unable to read the new databases but also does not know about them. Before you go to 2.53.1 again delete cert8.db and key3.db from your profile. The new ones are cer9.db and key4.db. Do a full backup before just in case. Hopefully logins.json is still ok. The problem with Seession Manager is also in the release notes. It needs to be fixed by the author but can also be fixed up manually by editing a file inside the xpi archive (which is actually a zip file. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Don Spam's Reckless Son schrieb: Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Having looked at https://seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ you have a big problem. Your first start of 2.53.1 reformatted some files and they are no longer readable onder the older level. It is all in the release notes above, look for the BIG RED WRITING at the top and the (bold) "Data loss warning:". Suggestion 1: Go back to 2.53.1 again. Suggestion 2: Take a full profile backup if you want to try and repair things, you are probably out of luck there but at least you should not do any further damage. 2 other questions: How is a backup of SeaMonkey internal data gone ? The old MozBackup doesn't work more. If I go to 2.53.1 again will I have my old passwords useable again ? thanks for help ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Don Spam's Reckless Son schrieb: Having looked at https://seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ you have a big problem. Your first start of 2.53.1 reformatted some files and they are no longer readable onder the older level. It is all in the release notes above, look for the BIG RED WRITING at the top and the (bold) "Data loss warning:". Suggestion 1: Go back to 2.53.1 again. Suggestion 2: Take a full profile backup if you want to try and repair things, you are probably out of luck there but at least you should not do any further damage. thanks very much. I could try to restore the files from an old backup if i would know the file names and locations. If I migrate to 2.53.1 again, is there any chance to export the password collection, e.g. to FireFox ? YS Jochen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Dr.J.Elz-Fianda wrote: Dear experts, I had upgraded from Version 2.43 to version 2.53.1. That worked o.k. but the session manager did not do it. It stored the visited sites after a crash and diyplayed the lsit at new start bit the selcted sites wouldn't be loaded. Therefor I gone back to Version 2.49.5. My session manager waorks again but I have lost all stored passwords. How can I get them back again ?= They are stored somewhere but I don*t remember under which file name and in which directory. Thanks for help. Jochen Having looked at https://seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ you have a big problem. Your first start of 2.53.1 reformatted some files and they are no longer readable onder the older level. It is all in the release notes above, look for the BIG RED WRITING at the top and the (bold) "Data loss warning:". Suggestion 1: Go back to 2.53.1 again. Suggestion 2: Take a full profile backup if you want to try and repair things, you are probably out of luck there but at least you should not do any further damage. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Help! Lost all passwords after upgradimng to Version 2.49.5
Dear experts, I had upgraded from Version 2.43 to version 2.53.1. That worked o.k. but the session manager did not do it. It stored the visited sites after a crash and diyplayed the lsit at new start bit the selcted sites wouldn't be loaded. Therefor I gone back to Version 2.49.5. My session manager waorks again but I have lost all stored passwords. How can I get them back again ?= They are stored somewhere but I don*t remember under which file name and in which directory. Thanks for help. Jochen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
