Re: Moving SM Mail Files
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: 2.49.5 is available as a 64-bit version, it is also backwards compatible with 2.49.4 (apart from some issues with the Lightning Calendar add-on). I'm not sure if that information is useful or not, I agree with the rest of your post ;-) Good clarification. I think that 2.49 versions were not officially supported in 64 bit, but definitely usable. The limit on backward compatibility was something that Firefox introduced at around FF 55, and since 2.53 is based on FF 56, then that's in place. For moving from 32 to 64, I know that FRG has noted that you really want to make sure you uninstall anything 32 bit before installing 64 bit. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving SM Mail Files
NFN Smith wrote: Henrik37 wrote: On a 64 bit Dell Optiplex running 64 bit Win 7 Pro, I presently have SM 2.49.4 installed. I am not certain whether existing SM mail is 32 bit or 64 bit as it has been in use for several years. I want to change the company providing the mail service and change the name of the mailbox. In the process, however, I want to keep all of the existing inbox and sent mail files. Can I simply copy the old inbox and sent mail files and paste these two files into a new mail account I establish with the new mail provider? snip What I suggest starting with the structure of Seamonkey (current version and 64 bit) before you start tinkering with data, especially server settings. I also think you can get to what you need from Seamonkey without digging in files and folders within your profile, other than making backups. 1) Get a backup of your current profile. In Windows use the Explorer to go to to %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey and copy the entire contents somewhere else. That way, if there's problems, you still have all your data that you can restore. Make sure that Seamonkey isn't open when you do this. 2) Upgrade to a 64-bit install of 2.53.1 As Don Spam noted, chances are high that you're running a 32-bit version of Seamonkey. 64-bit hasn't been available as a supported version before the recent release of 2.53.1, a few weeks ago, and the only way of updating Seamonkey is to download and install. It's fine to move to a 64-bit version, but before you do that, you want to uninstall your existing 32-bit version, first. Be aware also that once your profile has been touched by 2.53.1, you can't downgrade to a previous version, unless you also copy in your backups. That's something that's been imposed by Firefox, that profiles are no longer backward-compatible. Make sure that everything is working correctly before going further than this. snip Smith 2.49.5 is available as a 64-bit version, it is also backwards compatible with 2.49.4 (apart from some issues with the Lightning Calendar add-on). I'm not sure if that information is useful or not, I agree with the rest of your post ;-) -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving SM Mail Files
Henrik37 wrote: On a 64 bit Dell Optiplex running 64 bit Win 7 Pro, I presently have SM 2.49.4 installed. I am not certain whether existing SM mail is 32 bit or 64 bit as it has been in use for several years. I want to change the company providing the mail service and change the name of the mailbox. In the process, however, I want to keep all of the existing inbox and sent mail files. Can I simply copy the old inbox and sent mail files and paste these two files into a new mail account I establish with the new mail provider? Don Spam has good advice, but I can add a little bit further. You're proposing doing more than one change, and that's not a problem, but you need to go carefully, and not try to do everything all at once. What I suggest starting with the structure of Seamonkey (current version and 64 bit) before you start tinkering with data, especially server settings. I also think you can get to what you need from Seamonkey without digging in files and folders within your profile, other than making backups. 1) Get a backup of your current profile. In Windows use the Explorer to go to to %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey and copy the entire contents somewhere else. That way, if there's problems, you still have all your data that you can restore. Make sure that Seamonkey isn't open when you do this. 2) Upgrade to a 64-bit install of 2.53.1 As Don Spam noted, chances are high that you're running a 32-bit version of Seamonkey. 64-bit hasn't been available as a supported version before the recent release of 2.53.1, a few weeks ago, and the only way of updating Seamonkey is to download and install. It's fine to move to a 64-bit version, but before you do that, you want to uninstall your existing 32-bit version, first. Be aware also that once your profile has been touched by 2.53.1, you can't downgrade to a previous version, unless you also copy in your backups. That's something that's been imposed by Firefox, that profiles are no longer backward-compatible. Make sure that everything is working correctly before going further than this. If you're changing your mail provider, that's fine, but it's best to do that by adding a mailbox within your profile. Seamonkey has plenty of capacity to do this -- in my own setups, I have nearly half a dozen mail accounts (and different providers) all in the same profile. 3) For your new provider, set up a new account -- don't try to tinker with any of the settings of your existing account. Go to File -> Account -> New Account, and put in the credentials supplied by your new mail provider. Chances are that the provider may presume that you want IMAP (where mail is stored on the server) -- there's reasons to do that, but for what you're doing, POP is fine. Get the new connection working, where you can reliably send and receive mail. 4) Once you've set up the new account, you can move all the mail from your old account to the new account, with drag-and-drop. There a couple of variants here: - I could make a case for leaving all your old mail in the old account. Even if the provider isn't there anymore, you don't have to delete the account, and you can leave all the mail where it is currently (and I'm assuming POP). - If you want a unified account with both new and old mail, yes, you can drag it all into the new account, and then delete the old account entirely. - If you set up the new account as IMAP, then drag-and-drop will cause all the mail you copy to the new account to be mirrored to the server. The main benefit of this is that if you want more than one device (e.g., an extra computer or a cell phone mail client), both can get to the same mail, including folder layouts. However, depending on how much mail you have, it's possible that the new provider might have a quota for you to live within. Not everybody has Gmail's nearly-unlimited capacity. Naming of the account is something that is minor. When you're viewing the folders pane, right-click on the name of the account, select Settings, and then you can change Account Name to whatever suits your preferences. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving SM Mail Files
Henrik37 wrote: On a 64 bit Dell Optiplex running 64 bit Win 7 Pro, I presently have SM 2.49.4 installed. I am not certain whether existing SM mail is 32 bit or 64 bit as it has been in use for several years. I want to change the company providing the mail service and change the name of the mailbox. In the process, however, I want to keep all of the existing inbox and sent mail files. Can I simply copy the old inbox and sent mail files and paste these two files into a new mail account I establish with the new mail provider? Please put any comments in simple language as I am 82 and although I go back to the MS-DOS days, I have forgotten more PC-related things than I like to admit. Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, comments, or guidance. Firstly, you almost certainly have the 32-Bit version of Seamonkey - the first 64-Bit release-version for Windows was 2.49.5 and has not been around for more than a few months. Not that this really matters in this context. As an aside: If you want to install a newer 64-Bit version then you download it, uninstall the old version (backup your profile) and install the new version. You can't upgrade a 32-bit version to a 64-bit version directly, the data will be ok. I suppose you could update your email profile to point to the new email provider, but if you want to change the name of the Inbox anyway then you simply add a new account alongside the old one. Update the old one to stop communicating with the old email provider when you cease using it. You might as well delete the old "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" entry around then. Someone like FRG would need to say if you can actually copy the contents of one of those Email directories to another one, if you do then I believe you would be better off if you did not copy the .msf files. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Moving SM Mail Files
On a 64 bit Dell Optiplex running 64 bit Win 7 Pro, I presently have SM 2.49.4 installed. I am not certain whether existing SM mail is 32 bit or 64 bit as it has been in use for several years. I want to change the company providing the mail service and change the name of the mailbox. In the process, however, I want to keep all of the existing inbox and sent mail files. Can I simply copy the old inbox and sent mail files and paste these two files into a new mail account I establish with the new mail provider? Please put any comments in simple language as I am 82 and although I go back to the MS-DOS days, I have forgotten more PC-related things than I like to admit. Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, comments, or guidance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey