Re: Errors with YouTube (a workaround for voting and commenting)

2020-04-30 Thread Ant 

On 4/14/2020 2:30 PM, Ant wrote:

...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears 
it does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, 
refresh and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools 
and watch XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 
(unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


I just noticed YouTube's chat doesn't seem to accept my messages too. :(


https://old.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/fy21v6/unable_to_subscribe_unsubscribe_vote_etc_in/fn4z92q/ 
says "Disabling Firefox compatibility advertising to force the old 
layout is the only thing that seems to help at the moment" to be able 
to vote and comment. However, chat says "Oh no! It looks like you're 
using an older version of your browser. Please update it to use live 
chat." :(


I also noticed a few children friendly videos doesn't let me see and 
rate/vote like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmAV9Yhl-_4. I had to 
enable Firefox compatibility to do that. Back and forth with and without 
Firefox compatibility often for me. :(


It looks like Google/YouTube finally fixed the issues with their newer 
web site design. Old design is still there with some not working for 
some features like their chats.

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Re: Errors with YouTube (a workaround for voting and commenting)

2020-04-14 Thread Ant 

...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and 
watch XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


I just noticed YouTube's chat doesn't seem to accept my messages too. :(


https://old.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/fy21v6/unable_to_subscribe_unsubscribe_vote_etc_in/fn4z92q/ 
says "Disabling Firefox compatibility advertising to force the old 
layout is the only thing that seems to help at the moment" to be able to 
vote and comment. However, chat says "Oh no! It looks like you're using 
an older version of your browser. Please update it to use live chat." :(


I also noticed a few children friendly videos doesn't let me see and 
rate/vote like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmAV9Yhl-_4. I had to 
enable Firefox compatibility to do that. Back and forth with and without 
Firefox compatibility often for me. :(

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Re: Errors with YouTube (a workaround for voting and commenting)

2020-04-11 Thread Ant 

On 4/10/2020 8:09 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 7:49 PM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
...

Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the 
user thing in the upper right hand corner still gets the never 
ending loading circle.


Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same 
problems.  I didn't try commenting on anything.


Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch 
XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


I just noticed YouTube's chat doesn't seem to accept my messages too. :(


https://old.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/fy21v6/unable_to_subscribe_unsubscribe_vote_etc_in/fn4z92q/ 
says "Disabling Firefox compatibility advertising to force the old 
layout is the only thing that seems to help at the moment" to be able to 
vote and comment. However, chat says "Oh no! It looks like you're using 
an older version of your browser. Please update it to use live chat." :(

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-10 Thread Ant 

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 7:49 PM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
...

Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the 
user thing in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending 
loading circle.


Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same 
problems.  I didn't try commenting on anything.


Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch 
XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


I just noticed YouTube's chat doesn't seem to accept my messages too. :(
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-09 Thread Paul Bergsagel 

qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:50:42 PM UTC-4, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user thing 
in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading circle.

Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
didn't try commenting on anything.

I'm using a Macintosh MacOS 10.15.4 and SeaMonkey 2.53.1 with the user 
agent ( Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1) with only these extensions 
installed: Chatzilla, Dom Inspector, Lightining, PDF Viewer.


Youtube seems to function normally for me.  I have not noticed any 
differences.


Are the errors some are experiencing dependent on the OS the end user is 
running?

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Re: Unable to vote, (un)subscribe, etc. Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-09 Thread Ant 

On 4/9/2020 1:43 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/9/2020 2:54 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:
...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears 
it does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, 
refresh and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools 
and watch XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 
(unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


Has anyone reported this issue yet? If not, then where would it go? 
Google/YouTube (guessing since it used to work before for me) or 
SeaMonkey team?


Filing bugs for google/youtube only issues against SeaMonkey is 
unfortunately mostly pointless. Same for alerting them about breakage. 
They don't care.


Custom Elements and Shadow Dom is on the backport list but no ETA. 
With this in it might work again or not if they change other parts.


Even if we all tell them about it to show how many of us there are with 
this issue? :(


Ugh! I tried to leave a feedback as shown in 
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/4347644 web page, but my 
YouTube account's profile picture menu doesn't show up. So I had to do 
it with Firefox v75 web browser, but it was so slow to go through. Argh! 
Damn Google! :(

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Re: Unable to vote, (un)subscribe, etc. Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-09 Thread Ant 

On 4/9/2020 2:54 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:
...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and 
watch XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


Has anyone reported this issue yet? If not, then where would it go? 
Google/YouTube (guessing since it used to work before for me) or 
SeaMonkey team?


Filing bugs for google/youtube only issues against SeaMonkey is 
unfortunately mostly pointless. Same for alerting them about breakage. 
They don't care.


Custom Elements and Shadow Dom is on the backport list but no ETA. With 
this in it might work again or not if they change other parts.


Even if we all tell them about it to show how many of us there are with 
this issue? :(

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Re: Unable to vote, (un)subscribe, etc. Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-09 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:
...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it does. 
Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh and your 
actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch XHR requests 
your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


Has anyone reported this issue yet? If not, then where would it go? 
Google/YouTube (guessing since it used to work before for me) or SeaMonkey team?


Filing bugs for google/youtube only issues against SeaMonkey is unfortunately 
mostly pointless. Same for alerting them about breakage. They don't care.


Custom Elements and Shadow Dom is on the backport list but no ETA. With this 
in it might work again or not if they change other parts.


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Unable to vote, (un)subscribe, etc. Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-09 Thread Ant 

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:
...
Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch 
XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


Has anyone reported this issue yet? If not, then where would it go? 
Google/YouTube (guessing since it used to work before for me) or 
SeaMonkey team?

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-07 Thread Ant 

On 4/6/2020 7:49 PM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
...

Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user thing 
in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading circle.

Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
didn't try commenting on anything.


Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it does. Just 
subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh and your actions are 
gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch XHR requests your actions will 
end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-06 Thread viliam . kubis 
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 3:04:16 AM UTC+2, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:50:42 PM UTC-4, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> > On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:
> > > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > > 
> > > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages 
> > > other things work and then don't too.
> > > 
> > > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > > 
> > > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> > > 
> > 
> > Does Youtube work better if you access it with
> > https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1
> 
> A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user 
> thing in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading 
> circle.
> 
> Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
> didn't try commenting on anything.

Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it does. Just 
subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh and your actions are 
gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch XHR requests your actions will 
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-06 Thread qbr576 
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:50:42 PM UTC-4, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > 
> > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other 
> > things work and then don't too.
> > 
> > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > 
> > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> > 
> 
> Does Youtube work better if you access it with
> https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the user thing 
in the upper right hand corner still gets the never ending loading circle.

Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same problems.  I 
didn't try commenting on anything.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-06 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/6/2020 10:27 AM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:50:42 AM UTC+2, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages 
other things work and then don't too.


However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

Lem Johnson


Yes because it gives you the old layout



https://hub.packtpub.com/youtubes-polymer-redesign-doesnt-like-firefox-and-edge-browsers/ 



The new version will use Shadow DOM V1. Firefox supports it but you can bet it 
will still run better with Chrome :)


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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-06 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey 

On 4/6/2020 10:27 AM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:50:42 AM UTC+2, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

Lem Johnson


Yes because it gives you the old layout



https://hub.packtpub.com/youtubes-polymer-redesign-doesnt-like-firefox-and-edge-browsers/
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-06 Thread viliam . kubis 
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 5:50:42 AM UTC+2, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM:
> > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > 
> > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other 
> > things work and then don't too.
> > 
> > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > 
> > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> > 
> 
> Does Youtube work better if you access it with
> https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1
> 
> Lem Johnson

Yes because it gives you the old layout
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-05 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey 

On 4/1/2020 1:18 PM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?



Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread viliam . kubis 
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:57:10 AM UTC+2, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
> > Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
> > tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
> > connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
> > Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
> > the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
> > interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
> > Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.
> > 
> 
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>   SeaMonkey/2.49.5
> 
> Today, I went to YouTube and played several versions of Schumann's
> "Piano Concerto in A minor".
> 
> -- 
> David E. Ross
> 
> 
> Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19
> if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National
> Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control
> and Prevention (CDC)?  His administration also eliminated the
> Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense,
> the agency within the National Security Council tasked to
> provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics.
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Yes, that one also gives you the old layout for now :) New layout still 401 on 
almost any action
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread David E. Ross 
On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
> Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
> tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
> connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
> Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
> the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
> interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
> Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5

Today, I went to YouTube and played several versions of Schumann's
"Piano Concerto in A minor".

-- 
David E. Ross


Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19
if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National
Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC)?  His administration also eliminated the
Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense,
the agency within the National Security Council tasked to
provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics.

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 




viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:20:15 PM UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network tab 
every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to watch later, 
subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, these problems 
started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see if it would 
resolve the issue, but no.

I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also user 
menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.

Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. Going 
to dig further.



Google is rolling out a new design using polymer V2 using Custom Elements and
Shadow Dom. Firefox supports it since around 65 but it is really optimized for
Chrome only. No ETA yet for SeaMonkey. It is on the list.

https://polymer-library.polymer-project.org/2.0/docs/about_20

FRG


Oh, thank you! :) So youtube in chrome until then only? Or maybe if we force 
one of the old designs somehow? It was possible in the past. Let me look it up.



Firefox should support it too but as usual it is google and so works better 
with Chrome. I am using Edge Chromium for such sites. github recently also 
regressed this and is on the train to a "better" web for a minority (or the 
majority which does not care about browsers and privacy).


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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread viliam . kubis 
Setting general.useragent.override.youtube.com to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.4 Firefox/68.9 
PaleMoon/28.8.0" temporarily works, althrough youtube displays "we'll stop 
supporting this browser soon". This gives you back one of the old layouts, 
almost the same you get with ?disable_polymer=true query parameter. But you 
have to append that every time, I think there's an extension for that, but I 
didn't try.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread viliam . kubis 
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 12:20:15 PM UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> > I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network 
> > tab every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to 
> > watch later, subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, 
> > these problems started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see 
> > if it would resolve the issue, but no.
> > 
> > I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also 
> > user menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.
> > 
> > Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. 
> > Going to dig further.
> > 
> 
> Google is rolling out a new design using polymer V2 using Custom Elements and 
> Shadow Dom. Firefox supports it since around 65 but it is really optimized 
> for 
> Chrome only. No ETA yet for SeaMonkey. It is on the list.
> 
> https://polymer-library.polymer-project.org/2.0/docs/about_20
> 
> FRG

Oh, thank you! :) So youtube in chrome until then only? Or maybe if we force 
one of the old designs somehow? It was possible in the past. Let me look it up.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network tab 
every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to watch later, 
subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, these problems 
started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see if it would 
resolve the issue, but no.

I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also user 
menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.

Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. Going 
to dig further.



Google is rolling out a new design using polymer V2 using Custom Elements and 
Shadow Dom. Firefox supports it since around 65 but it is really optimized for 
Chrome only. No ETA yet for SeaMonkey. It is on the list.


https://polymer-library.polymer-project.org/2.0/docs/about_20

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread viliam . kubis 
Setting user agent to firefox 60 doesn't help, also firefox 61, 62, and from 63 
onwards we get window.customElements is undefined - and the whole page is 
broken.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-04 Thread viliam . kubis 
I'm getting this as well, if I open developer console and check the network tab 
every like, removelike, dislike, comment_action, user menu, add to watch later, 
subscribe etc returns 401 unauthorized. I don't know why, these problems 
started around april first. I just upgraded to 2.53.1 to see if it would 
resolve the issue, but no.

I've also tried signing out (which does work on video upload screen, also user 
menu works there) and signing back in, but that didn't help as well.

Comparing the requests witch chrome's, they doesn't seem much different. Going 
to dig further.
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-02 Thread qbr576 
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 5:20:04 PM UTC-4, Ant wrote:
> On 4/1/2020 11:18 AM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> > 
> > I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
> > Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
> > subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the 
> > youtube website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other 
> > things work and then don't too.
> > 
> > However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.
> > 
> > Is this perhaps a UA issue?
> 
> I have no problems with its default "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; 
> x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1" user agent, 
> but do noticed YouTube.com is very slow and uses a lot of memories in 
> old SeaMonkey versions especially if I open multiple tabs. :( I also use 
> uBlock Origin as well.
> 
> Do you still have this problem with a brand new SM profile?

Yes. Not quite the same on a day to day basis, but similar problems with a 
brand new SM profile. Although, interestingly, youtube seems to know about my 
subscriptions with a new empty profile. However, the endless not loading circle 
appears for both notifications and my user info. When I'm at gmail, clicking on 
my user thing (in the upper right hand corner) does offer me an opportunity to 
sign out.

According to https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent my UA 
is, Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-01 Thread Ant 

On 4/1/2020 11:18 AM, qbr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?


I have no problems with its default "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; 
x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1" user agent, 
but do noticed YouTube.com is very slow and uses a lot of memories in 
old SeaMonkey versions especially if I open multiple tabs. :( I also use 
uBlock Origin as well.


Do you still have this problem with a brand new SM profile?
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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-04-01 Thread qbr576 
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:

I've been unable to post replies or comments for around four days using 
Seamonkey 2.53.1. I also can't like videos. The left sidebar that shows 
subscriptions and other things comes and goes.  In looking around the youtube 
website on what are probably less frequently frequented pages other things work 
and then don't too.

However, I seem to be able to post etc using Firefox 74.0.

Is this perhaps a UA issue?

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-24 Thread EE 

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/23/2020 12:12 PM, EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:

Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I
tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with
Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js",
the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its
interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with
Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
Images for all domains domains enabled
HTML5 Media enabled

No problem with YouTube today.


The weird thing was that I see no copy of the problem javascript being
sent to the 3 browsers where I had no problems, only with the 2 with the
problem (except now that item is blocked).



I do not understand.  Have you disabled JavaScript in the problem case?
Or is YouTube complaining about JavaScript despite the fact that it is
enabled?

So far today, I have viewed possibly 7 music videos on YouTube.
JavaScript is enabled, but so is AdBlock Plus.

I blocked that javascript with uBlock Origin by adding its address to my 
personal filter list.


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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-24 Thread NFN Smith 

EE wrote:
Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.



I just checked, and I'm not having any problems with YouTube. I'm 
running 2.53.1, and I have both NoScript and uBlock Origin installed. 
With NoScript, I do have to enable Google, Youtube, ytimg and 
googlevideo, but I don't have to enable fonts.gstatic.com.  And I notice 
that after I start running a video, I can disable google.com again.


For Google proper, I have an about:config entry for 
general.useragent.override.google.com set to


	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0


 where I'm not advertising that I'm using Seamonkey.  That one is to 
fix an annoyance-grade display issue with Google's search page, where it 
won't locate the cursor in the correct place. Google apparently does 
that with all Firefox-derived UA strings that show the name of the true 
browser.  I've seen people indicate strangeness with other Google sites, 
where it may be necessary to do similar tweaking of UA strings, but I 
haven't experienced that myself. I definitely don't need to do that for 
YouTube.


Normally, I would suggest clearing cache and cookies, but if you're also 
seeing that behavior in PaleMoon, it's possible that the source is 
elsewhere.


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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-23 Thread David E. Ross 
On 3/23/2020 12:12 PM, EE wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
>>> Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I
>>> tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the
>>> connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with
>>> Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js",
>>> the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its
>>> interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with
>>> Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.49.5
>> Cookies for the requested Web site only
>> Popups blocked
>> Images for all domains domains enabled
>> HTML5 Media enabled
>>
>> No problem with YouTube today.
>>
> The weird thing was that I see no copy of the problem javascript being 
> sent to the 3 browsers where I had no problems, only with the 2 with the 
> problem (except now that item is blocked).
> 

I do not understand.  Have you disabled JavaScript in the problem case?
Or is YouTube complaining about JavaScript despite the fact that it is
enabled?

So far today, I have viewed possibly 7 music videos on YouTube.
JavaScript is enabled, but so is AdBlock Plus.

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-23 Thread EE 

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:

Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I
tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with
Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js",
the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its
interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with
Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
Images for all domains domains enabled
HTML5 Media enabled

No problem with YouTube today.

The weird thing was that I see no copy of the problem javascript being 
sent to the 3 browsers where I had no problems, only with the 2 with the 
problem (except now that item is blocked).


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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-23 Thread EE 

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

EE wrote:
Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when 
I tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing 
with Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called 
"tampering.js", the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done 
something with its interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had 
no problem with Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.


IMO, youtube became more sensitive to UA's a week or two ago.
My UA works for youtube and most places.
User-Agent: Fire
Yes, that's the entire string.

It does not work with money places though (bank, cards, etc.) and I have 
to revert to a full name and number.  Some sniffers demand more.

User-Agent: Firefox/72

I noticed the UA problem when it started and set up an override that 
works.  Blocking that javascript solved the new problem with SeaMonkey. 
Had to get rid of an extension with Pale Moon in addition to that, though.

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-22 Thread David E. Ross 
On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
> Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
> tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
> connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
> Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
> the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
> interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
> Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.
> 

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
Images for all domains domains enabled
HTML5 Media enabled

No problem with YouTube today.

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-22 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

EE wrote:
Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.


IMO, youtube became more sensitive to UA's a week or two ago.
My UA works for youtube and most places.
User-Agent: Fire
Yes, that's the entire string.

It does not work with money places though (bank, cards, etc.) and I have 
to revert to a full name and number.  Some sniffers demand more.

User-Agent: Firefox/72

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Re: Errors with YouTube

2020-03-22 Thread Ant 

On 3/22/2020 11:56 AM, EE wrote:
Starting yesterday evening, I suddenly got only an error message when I 
tried to play YouTube videos.  The message was something about the 
connection not working, and try again later.  I had the same thing with 
Pale Moon.  After blocking an external javascript called "tampering.js", 
the videos were fine again.  Has YouTube done something with its 
interface to try to block certain browsers?  I had no problem with 
Vivaldi, Slimjet, or Safari.



I haven't had any issues in my SeaMonkey with YouTube.com. I even use 
uBlock Origin, disabled send referrers, etc. Try SeaMonkey;'s safe mode 
a new profile?

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