Re: Food for thought
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:14:08 +0200 John Doue notw...@yahoo.com wrote: - Den's post of the FF NG requested such a simple information - which had not been answered by respectable members of that NG - that I hesitated answering it, for fearing of missing the obvious and making a fool of myself. I finally did (not make a fool of myself ...), and my answer was exactly what the OP expected. Fact 1 Your answer was also the answer Potamus had given den the first time den asked, three days previously. Also, in the thread you posted to, he had already gotten the response To back up bookmarks with Firefox 2 versions, go into the bookmark manager window and choose Export from the File menu, which is just as simple and will work just as well as the answer you gave. den didn't understand it, though, so asked the followup question you responded to. That's how it's supposed to work; people ask questions, others answer to the best of their ability, and followup questions are asked and answered if needed. IMO, there's no problem with the way it's working in general and no problem with the way it worked in that thread specifically. den made it a little tougher by ignoring answers he'd already gotten and by providing incorrect information (there are no Fx 1.8.x versions), but that's no big deal. I don't think this part of the food for thought has anything to do with SeaMonkey, so I've set followup to mozilla.general. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Food for thought
John Doue wrote: Question 1 - How do we make SM a realistic choice for basic computer users, meaning those who tend to be satisfied with what they get when they buy a machine. Vista and all its BS, unavoidable Explorer. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't see those as our target group, I see those as what Firefox is targeting for and should be targeting for. I for myself tell those to look into Firefox. I tell advanced people to try SeaMonkey, but not novices. Our UI is way to overloaded for basic computer users, IMHO. Question 2- How do we bring this user who made the initial step subscribe to our NG, how do we make him feel at home and what respect do we show for his lack of knowledge. That's something we surely should think about. Question 3 - How do we manage to satisfy basic needs (read, needs from people who just want to get there and who do not care how) while catering to the enthusiast crowd most of us belong to. Depends on what those users actually want. SeaMonkey might not be the answer for all of those. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Food for thought
Robert Kaiser wrote: John Doue wrote: Question 1 - How do we make SM a realistic choice for basic computer users, meaning those who tend to be satisfied with what they get when they buy a machine. Vista and all its BS, unavoidable Explorer. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't see those as our target group, I see those as what Firefox is targeting for and should be targeting for. I for myself tell those to look into Firefox. I tell advanced people to try SeaMonkey, but not novices. Our UI is way to overloaded for basic computer users, IMHO. Thank you, Robert, for saying this here! I was thinking of adding to your SeaMonkey Project Goals thread, but wasn't sure how to set things up so that it would post HERE rather than to the dev group that you had the follow-up set to! In my humble opinion, SeaMonkey should be aiming to be a bare-bones suite, i.e. basic browser, basic mail news, basic composer AND a very good extension manager. If you want to send HTML mail - download an extension If you want to view video - download an extension If you want a different theme - download an extension If you want to upgrade your Java - download an extension If you want to do whatever (advanced) - download an extension So the whole thing that you very able guys do would become far more compartmentalised (which, I supposed could make the integration more difficult). We now have 'phones that tell the time, take photos and browser the web.how long before we have wrist watches, a la Dick Tracy, that can do similar. Making SeaMonkey (bare bones) as streamlined as possible could make it more Universal in operation. -- Daniel (using his sister's computer) (Test driving SM 2.x) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
