Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-15 Thread Ed Mullen

jigo wrote:



 Original Message 


RGrannus wrote:


One would think that the send command would be prominent
on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it
belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where
history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It
seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.
For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the
personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new
post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.


On my system, when I have a mail composition window open,
the buttons are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach,
Spell. Security, Save.

First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have you
hidden the toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled
rectangle just under the word Subject: and click it.


The send command is not on my list. What list are you referring to? I
have all the toolbars checked as open. It seems odd to me to have it
under the file drop-down menu of a toolbar. The send command is usually
given a separate, prominent button in other browsers. And all sorts of
directions are given for the personal toolbar, but which one is this?
Do you have to create it yourself? Most things can't be added to the
toolbars shown.




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In the browser the personal toolbar was re-named the Bookmarks Toolbar 
at some point in time.  If you have any toolbar set to be shown in View 
- Show/Hide and it is not visible you have probably accidentally clicked 
the little arrowhead to the left of the toolbar.  If so, it's now a 
right-facing arrowhead. Click to make the toolbar visible again.


See:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_book_org.php


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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-14 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

jigo wrote:


To be specific, I can only access the toolbars by clicking view on top
toolbar, then choosing and checking all four toolbar options shown to
turn
them on. I did this for all four toolbars shown and set mail as view.
The other toolbars on my system are the navigation toolbar and the
address toolbar. I don't see a fourth, but since I checked off all
toolbars to be shown, I don't know why the personal toolbar is not there
(or on the main SeaMonkey screen.)  Oddly enough, a send button appears
in a reply post like this but not in the main browser screen when
sending or replying to an email. Nowhere have I been able to get the
Start button on any other toolbar. And I don't know what that
personal toolbar is. I've never been able to show it and I've clicked
all four toolbar to be shown.


Please bottom-post on this forum, thanks.

The Send button is meaningless in a browser window, so it won't appear
there; similarly, it is meaningless in a mail/news listing, so it
doesn't appear there, either (but the mail/news listing does have
compose, reply, and other appropriate buttons). The Send button
only appears in a mail composition window (CTRL-M to begin a new
message, CTRL-R to reply, etc.).

If you are using your browser to access webmail, the webmaster should
have designed his own send button into his page(s); this is not a
feature of SeaMonkey.

I don't understand your phrase, in the main browser screen when sending
or replying to an email, since the browser is not used to send mail.

AFAIK the Start button is a Windows feature, not a SeaMonkey feature.

I suppose the Personal toolbar must be one you assembled yourself from
available buttons, so if you haven't done so, it would be empty.

Paul, I'm wondering if the OP, jingo, is using webmail (gmail, 
yahoomail, whatever) and is not seeing the send button on the webmail 
page.


Could it be that he does not have javascript enabled and the Send 
button is some sort of script??


Or, maybe, the Send button comes from another site and the OP, jingo, 
has set the Image Acceptance Policy, at Edit-Preferences-Privacy  
Security-Images, to Only load images that come from the originating 
server.


(I had a similar problem with Amazon.ca, some years ago, where I could 
not see the Cash Register, or whatever, icon, so couldn't complete a 
transaction!)


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Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942

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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-13 Thread jigo
To be specific, I can only access the toolbars by clicking 
view on top toobar, then choosing and checking all four 
toobar options shown to turn them on. I did this for all 
four toobars shown and set mail as view.
The other toolbars on my system are the navigation toobar 
and the address toolbar. I don't see a fourth, but since I 
checked off all toobars to be shown, I don't know why the 
personal toobar is not there (or on the main SeaMonkey 
screen.)  Oddly enough, a send button appears in a reply 
post like this but not in the main browser screen when 
sending or replying to an email. Nowhere have I been able to 
get the Start button on any other toobar. And I don't know 
what that personal toolbar is. I've never been able to 
show it and I've clicked all four toolbar to be shown.


 Original Message 


jigo wrote:

[quoting me without attribution:]

On my system, when I have a mail composition window open,
the
buttons are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach, Spell.
Security, Save.

First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have
you hidden
the toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled rectangle
just under
the word Subject: and click it.


The send command is not on my list. What list are you
referring to? I
have all the toolbars checked as open. It seems odd to me
to have it
under the file drop-down menu of a toolbar. The send
command is
usually given a separate, prominent button in other
browsers. And all
sorts of directions are given for the personal toolbar,
but which
one is this? Do you have to create it yourself? Most
things can't be
added to the toolbars shown.


This is the default toolbar that came with the program.
Under View | Show/Hide it's called Mail Toolbar. I have
not modified it, and I have no custom toolbars, no
third-party toolbars.

When I said list I was referring to the toolbar I had just
described.

What do you see on your toolbar? Or, as I asked earlier,
have you hidden it?



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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

jigo wrote:


To be specific, I can only access the toolbars by clicking view on top
toolbar, then choosing and checking all four toolbar options shown to turn
them on. I did this for all four toolbars shown and set mail as view.
The other toolbars on my system are the navigation toolbar and the
address toolbar. I don't see a fourth, but since I checked off all
toolbars to be shown, I don't know why the personal toolbar is not there
(or on the main SeaMonkey screen.)  Oddly enough, a send button appears
in a reply post like this but not in the main browser screen when
sending or replying to an email. Nowhere have I been able to get the
Start button on any other toolbar. And I don't know what that
personal toolbar is. I've never been able to show it and I've clicked
all four toolbar to be shown.


Please bottom-post on this forum, thanks.

The Send button is meaningless in a browser window, so it won't appear 
there; similarly, it is meaningless in a mail/news listing, so it 
doesn't appear there, either (but the mail/news listing does have 
compose, reply, and other appropriate buttons). The Send button 
only appears in a mail composition window (CTRL-M to begin a new 
message, CTRL-R to reply, etc.).


If you are using your browser to access webmail, the webmaster should 
have designed his own send button into his page(s); this is not a 
feature of SeaMonkey.


I don't understand your phrase, in the main browser screen when sending 
or replying to an email, since the browser is not used to send mail.


AFAIK the Start button is a Windows feature, not a SeaMonkey feature.

I suppose the Personal toolbar must be one you assembled yourself from 
available buttons, so if you haven't done so, it would be empty.


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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-12 Thread Ray Davison

RGrannus wrote:

One would think that the send command would be prominent on the
mail toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it
belongs under the file drop-down menu.


You send what you compose/reply.  This is the default compose window.
What does yours look like?
https://raydavplaces.shutterfly.com/pictures/13

 I still haven't found where history is.

Have you yet determined that the mail window is three panes, one two or
three of which can be open at any one time?


To compose a new post, the group(s) name must be added manually.


Open a new compose window from within a news group and the address is 
automatically inserted.


Right click on any mail address while in a mail folder, and it provides 
the option to compose mail to.


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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-11 Thread Jens Hatlak

EE wrote:

To address a message to a newsgroup, you do not have to put the name in
manually.  Select the name of the group in the folder pane, then select
any message within the group, click Compose, and the message will
already be addressed to that newsgroup.


Starting with SM 2.25, the Compose window (which BTW can be opened from 
pretty much anywhere in SM using Ctrl+M) will even be able to 
autocomplete newsgroup names (only subscribed ones though).


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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-11 Thread jigo



 Original Message 


RGrannus wrote:


One would think that the send command would be prominent
on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it
belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where
history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It
seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.
For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the
personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new
post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.


On my system, when I have a mail composition window open,
the buttons are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach,
Spell. Security, Save.

First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have you
hidden the toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled
rectangle just under the word Subject: and click it.


The send command is not on my list. What list are you 
referring to? I have all the toolbars checked as open. It 
seems odd to me to have it under the file drop-down menu of 
a toolbar. The send command is usually given a separate, 
prominent button in other browsers. And all sorts of 
directions are given for the personal toolbar, but which 
one is this? Do you have to create it yourself? Most things 
can't be added to the toolbars shown.





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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

jigo wrote:

[quoting me without attribution:]

On my system, when I have a mail composition window open, the
buttons are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach, Spell.
Security, Save.

First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have you hidden
the toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled rectangle just under
the word Subject: and click it.


The send command is not on my list. What list are you referring to? I
have all the toolbars checked as open. It seems odd to me to have it
under the file drop-down menu of a toolbar. The send command is
usually given a separate, prominent button in other browsers. And all
sorts of directions are given for the personal toolbar, but which
one is this? Do you have to create it yourself? Most things can't be
added to the toolbars shown.


This is the default toolbar that came with the program. Under View | 
Show/Hide it's called Mail Toolbar. I have not modified it, and I have 
no custom toolbars, no third-party toolbars.


When I said list I was referring to the toolbar I had just described.

What do you see on your toolbar? Or, as I asked earlier, have you hidden it?

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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-10 Thread andré

RGrannus a écrit :

One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.  For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.

In the main email window I've always used the default toolbar, with 
maybe some items removed, and stop added to the right.
(I recently re-did it for some new profiles, so I know that this is all 
I added.)

It has, from left to right,
download new messages, create new message, respond, respond to 
all, transfer, and the stop icon that I added.


In the message edit window, I've always used the default toolbar, which 
has 3 icons.  From left to right :

Send now, select receiver, save

(My SM is configured in french, so the exact words may differ a little 
in english.)
Note that when you talk about the File dropdown menu, that isn't the 
tool bar.  Make sure you have the tool bar activated under the display 
sub-menu.


BTW, it would be a nice courtesy if you removed this ad from your 
signature :

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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-10 Thread EE

andré wrote:

RGrannus a écrit :

One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.  For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.


In the main email window I've always used the default toolbar, with
maybe some items removed, and stop added to the right.
(I recently re-did it for some new profiles, so I know that this is all
I added.)
It has, from left to right,
download new messages, create new message, respond, respond to
all, transfer, and the stop icon that I added.

In the message edit window, I've always used the default toolbar, which
has 3 icons.  From left to right :
Send now, select receiver, save

(My SM is configured in french, so the exact words may differ a little
in english.)
Note that when you talk about the File dropdown menu, that isn't the
tool bar.  Make sure you have the tool bar activated under the display
sub-menu.

BTW, it would be a nice courtesy if you removed this ad from your
signature :

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Look under menu::edit::account_parameters, on the main page for your
account.

To address a message to a newsgroup, you do not have to put the name in 
manually.  Select the name of the group in the folder pane, then select 
any message within the group, click Compose, and the message will 
already be addressed to that newsgroup.


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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-09 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
RGrannus wrote:

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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-09 Thread Rufus

RGrannus wrote:

One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.  For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.

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SM Help could stand some revision/clarification, but the key to using 
most of SM is Customizing the window Toolbars to your own work habits - 
each one is somewhat independent; forex: I put Get Message, Compose, 
Reply, Reply All, Forward, File, and Mark buttons on my Mail Toolbar, 
and Send, Address, Attach, Spell, Security, and Save buttons on my 
Compose Toolbar a long time ago.  And I use the SM Modern Theme because 
I think it's cleaner looking...YMMV.


History is under the Go menu in the Browser Taskbar.

I general I haven't many issues with the basic SM interface as presented 
in the Modern Theme - just all the UE related bugs that never seem to 
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Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings

2013-12-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

RGrannus wrote:


One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail
toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under
the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other
aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a
very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar.  For example,
the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal
toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the
group(s) name must be added manually.


On my system, when I have a mail composition window open, the buttons 
are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach, Spell. Security, Save.


First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have you hidden the 
toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled rectangle just under the word 
Subject: and click it.


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