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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-15 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Found the cause (or at least the main cause for SeaMonkey) today and spun off 
a bug from the original bug:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364977
Gave a test build to someone affected and it works. I hope the bug fix is ok. 
If yes it will go into the final 2.48 for sure. ewong still has problems 
enabling updates and so it hasn't been built yet.

FRG

S Slicer wrote:





The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45, 
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I have 
no idea why.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-08 Thread Daniel


On 7/05/2017 11:41 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/7/17 5:18 AM, Daniel wrote:

The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly
hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48
Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the
ESR versions.


SeaMonkey 2.48b1 was released on April 17, 2017.



I installed it on Windows and Linux yesterday.


Thanks for that, Walt.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond

Richmond wrote:
> 
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/
> 
> But there is a tinderbox build, which sounds like fun. :)
> 
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/1494033293/
> 

OK I was looking in the wrong place. I should probably read the project
news page from time to time. :(

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread S Slicer

Richmond wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Francesco wrote:

Thanks.
I'll keep 2.50 since i can live with this bug After all it's the only one
i've found so far. Except for that, 64 bit 2.50 works really fine.

Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 18:56:16 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
I wouldn't expect a solution soon.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Interesting. Seems to be a problem with the x64 version only. First problem I
ever encountered with the x64. Please uninstall and try the x86 version. I
will need to look at the installer and see if something is wrong there.
FRG

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Hello,
i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail
recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to mail
recipient" command does nothing.
Any suggestion on how to fix it?
About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few
seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right click and then
selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.

Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default
e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected
Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail
client if nothing else was selected.

Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose window
appear.
I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose
command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no attachment.
With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.

Thanks!

Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that
you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up
properly??

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Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45,
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I
have no idea why.

Is it this one?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923

Looks likely!

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread WaltS48


On 5/7/17 5:18 AM, Daniel wrote:
The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the 
ESR versions. 


SeaMonkey 2.48b1 was released on April 17, 2017.



I installed it on Windows and Linux yesterday.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond

Daniel wrote:
> On 7/05/2017 6:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is
>> 2.51 at the moment. 2.50 is the current release.
> 
> It should be stressed that these are Adrian's private releases ..i.e. 
> Adrian has a SM 2.50 release version and a SM 2.51 Beta version, maybe.
> 
> The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
> hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
> Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the ESR 
> versions.
> 
> At least, as I understand things!!

That might explain why I can't find a 2.50, or 2.51 beta in here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/

But there is a tinderbox build, which sounds like fun. :)

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux/1494033293/

> 
>> If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug
>> 1353765:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
>> This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53.
>> The 2.49 esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as
>> stated. 2.50+ still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast
>> as usual and you might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54
>> based on gecko 57 might become a tough cookie depending on how fast
>> classic extension and theme support is to be removed.
>>
>> 2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an
>> indexDB error in the error console blow away the storage folder,
>> storage.* and webappsstore* from you profile.
>>
>> There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might
>> not be 100% compatible with an older version.
>>
>> FRG
> 

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Daniel


On 7/05/2017 6:16 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is
2.51 at the moment. 2.50 is the current release.


It should be stressed that these are Adrian's private releases ..i.e. 
Adrian has a SM 2.50 release version and a SM 2.51 Beta version, maybe.


The latest Official release in SM 2.46 and there will, shortly 
hopefully, be a SM 2.48 Beta release which will then become a SM 2.48 
Release Version and then the SM 2.49 (Beta) will be the start of the ESR 
versions.


At least, as I understand things!!


If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug
1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53.
The 2.49 esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as
stated. 2.50+ still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast
as usual and you might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54
based on gecko 57 might become a tough cookie depending on how fast
classic extension and theme support is to be removed.

2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an
indexDB error in the error console blow away the storage folder,
storage.* and webappsstore* from you profile.

There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might
not be 100% compatible with an older version.

FRG


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is 2.51 at 
the moment. 2.50 is the current release.

If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug 1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53. The 2.49 
esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as stated. 2.50+ 
still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast as usual and you 
might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54 based on gecko 57 might 
become a tough cookie depending on how fast classic extension and theme 
support is to be removed.


2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an indexDB 
error in the error console blow away the storage folder, storage.* and 
webappsstore* from you profile.


There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might not be 
100% compatible with an older version.


FRG

Richmond wrote:

Excuse me for still being confused. :)

I know you said to move to Adrian's beta, but where does he get the
source? I checked out comm-beta and compiled it, and it says 2.51. But I
see also there is a 2.48b1.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48b1/

So what have I ended up with? I don't particularly want to go back from
2.51, but maybe if none of the structures in the profile changed it
wouldn't matter.

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

No, only the aurora a2 channel has been discontinued by Mozilla. Looking at
recent code quality and other issues a mistake imho but telling the world how
stable the current release process became made a good press release and that
is all what seems to count :)

The logical step is to switch to beta.

FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.


I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(


It is in the mail component and not a bad one.

FRG


I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 'A2'
releases!

So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??







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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl


> 2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable
Same for 2.51

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
No I said. The logical step from aurora would switch to beta. Beta is 2.51 at 
the moment. 2.50 is the current release.

If you compile yourself clone comm-esr52 and apply the patch for bug 1353765:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353765
This gives you 2.49.1 which has all security patches from 2.50 Fx 53. The 2.49 
esr line will be the basis for the the next stable releases as stated. 2.50+ 
still have some problems which are fixed but not as fast as usual and you 
might end up with a broken build in the future. 2.54 based on gecko 57 might 
become a tough cookie depending on how fast classic extension and theme 
support is to be removed.


2.49 and 2.50 profiles should be interchangeable but if you see an indexDB 
error in the error console blow away the storage folder, storage.* and 
webappsstore* from you profile.


There are changes in favicon handling in 2.52 and such a profile might not be 
100% compatible with an older version.


FRG

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-07 Thread Richmond

Excuse me for still being confused. :)

I know you said to move to Adrian's beta, but where does he get the
source? I checked out comm-beta and compiled it, and it says 2.51. But I
see also there is a 2.48b1.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48b1/

So what have I ended up with? I don't particularly want to go back from
2.51, but maybe if none of the structures in the profile changed it
wouldn't matter.

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> No, only the aurora a2 channel has been discontinued by Mozilla. Looking at 
> recent code quality and other issues a mistake imho but telling the world how 
> stable the current release process became made a good press release and that 
> is all what seems to count :)
> 
> The logical step is to switch to beta.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Daniel wrote:
>> On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>> The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
>>> some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
>>> planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
>>> Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
>>> versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
>>> release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
>>> arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.
>>>
 I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
 don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(
>>>
>>> It is in the mail component and not a bad one.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>
>> I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 
>> 'A2' 
>> releases!
>>
>> So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??
>>
> 

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-06 Thread Richmond

S Slicer wrote:
> Francesco wrote:
>> Thanks.
>> I'll keep 2.50 since i can live with this bug After all it's the only 
>> one i've found so far. Except for that, 64 bit 2.50 works really fine.
>>
>> Francesco
>>
>>
>> Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 18:56:16 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha 
>> scritto:
>>> Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
>>> I wouldn't expect a solution soon.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>>
>>> Francesco wrote:
 I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing 
 something.

 Thanks
 Francesco

 Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha 
 scritto:
> Interesting. Seems to be a problem with the x64 version only. First 
> problem I
> ever encountered with the x64. Please uninstall and try the x86 version. I
> will need to look at the installer and see if something is wrong there.
> FRG
>
> Francesco wrote:
>> Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
>>> On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:
 Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:
>> Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
>>> Just saw it here
>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
>>
>> Hello,
>> i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to 
>> mail recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
>> Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click 
>> "send to mail recipient" command does nothing.
>> Any suggestion on how to fix it?
>> About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but 
>> after a few seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.
>>
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Francesco
>>
> Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
> Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
> Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.
>
> What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
> recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup 
> screen??
>
> My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in 
> either
> screen! ;-(
>
 ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely 
 clear...
 When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse 
 right click and then selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing 
 happens.
>>>
>>> Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default
>>> e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected
>>> Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail
>>> client if nothing else was selected.
>>>
 Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose 
 window appear.
 I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with 
 /compose command but in this case the compose window opens, but with 
 no attachment.
 With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.

 Thanks!

>>> Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
>>> system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that
>>> you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up
>>> properly??
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>>> SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751
>>
>> Daniel,
>> Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It 
>> starts on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file 
>> attached).
>>
>> Francesco
>>

>>
> The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!
> 
> I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45, 
> crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I 
> have no idea why.
> 
Is it this one?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-05 Thread S Slicer

Francesco wrote:

Thanks.
I'll keep 2.50 since i can live with this bug After all it's the only one
i've found so far. Except for that, 64 bit 2.50 works really fine.

Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 18:56:16 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
I wouldn't expect a solution soon.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45,
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I
have no idea why.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-03 Thread Francesco

Thanks.
I'll keep 2.50 since i can live with this bug After all it's the only one 
i've found so far. Except for that, 64 bit 2.50 works really fine.

Francesco


Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 18:56:16 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:
> Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
> I wouldn't expect a solution soon.
> 
> FRG
> 
> Francesco wrote:
> > I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing 
> > something.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Francesco
> > 
> > Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha 
> > scritto:
> >> Interesting. Seems to be a problem with the x64 version only. First 
> >> problem I
> >> ever encountered with the x64. Please uninstall and try the x86 version. I
> >> will need to look at the installer and see if something is wrong there.
> >> FRG
> >>
> >> Francesco wrote:
> >>> Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
>  On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:
> > Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> >> On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:
> >>> Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
>  Just saw it here
>  https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to 
> >>> mail recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
> >>> Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click 
> >>> "send to mail recipient" command does nothing.
> >>> Any suggestion on how to fix it?
> >>> About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after 
> >>> a few seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and best regards
> >>> Francesco
> >>>
> >> Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
> >> Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
> >> Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.
> >>
> >> What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
> >> recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup 
> >> screen??
> >>
> >> My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in 
> >> either
> >> screen! ;-(
> >>
> > ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
> > When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right 
> > click and then selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.
> 
>  Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default
>  e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected
>  Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail
>  client if nothing else was selected.
> 
> > Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose 
> > window appear.
> > I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with 
> > /compose command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no 
> > attachment.
> > With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>  Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
>  system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that
>  you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up
>  properly??
> 
>  -- 
>  Daniel
> 
>  User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
>  SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751
> >>>
> >>> Daniel,
> >>> Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It 
> >>> starts on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file 
> >>> attached).
> >>>
> >>> Francesco
> >>>
> >

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Looks like the x64 problem is a bit older :)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393302
I wouldn't expect a solution soon.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

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Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Yes you are right. I would advise to stay with 2.49 and see if this one works.
I think he is preparing 2.49.1 from the ESR branch right now.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

--
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SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Francesco

I can't find a 32 bit 2.50 release on akalla site, but maybe i'm missing 
something.

Thanks
Francesco

Il giorno martedì 2 maggio 2017 14:30:20 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:
> Interesting. Seems to be a problem with the x64 version only. First problem I 
> ever encountered with the x64. Please uninstall and try the x86 version. I 
> will need to look at the installer and see if something is wrong there.
> FRG
> 
> Francesco wrote:
> > Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> >> On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:
> >>> Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
>  On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:
> > Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
> >> Just saw it here
> >> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
> >
> > Hello,
> > i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
> > recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
> > Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send 
> > to mail recipient" command does nothing.
> > Any suggestion on how to fix it?
> > About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a 
> > few seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards
> > Francesco
> >
>  Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
>  Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
>  Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.
> 
>  What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
>  recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup 
>  screen??
> 
>  My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
>  screen! ;-(
> 
> >>> ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
> >>> When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right 
> >>> click and then selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.
> >>
> >> Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default
> >> e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected
> >> Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail
> >> client if nothing else was selected.
> >>
> >>> Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose 
> >>> window appear.
> >>> I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose 
> >>> command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no attachment.
> >>> With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >> Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
> >> system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that
> >> you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up
> >> properly??
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
> >> SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751
> > 
> > Daniel,
> > Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It 
> > starts on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file 
> > attached).
> > 
> > Francesco
> >

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

FRG

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

--
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Looks like a new bug. Its an easy way to crash 2.52a1 on Windows 7. It just
closes.

FRG

Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Daniel

On 2/05/2017 5:03 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha
scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha
scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Hello,

i installed this release and noticed that the right click
"send to mail recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right
click "send to mail recipient" command does nothing. Any
suggestion on how to fix it? About memory usage, in my case
sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few seconds it goes
to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.

Thanks and best regards Francesco

Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46
Official Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release
(although you User Agent suggests you posted via Google) that
you suggest you are using.

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail &
Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient"
in either screen! ;-(

ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely
clear... When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by
using mouse right click and then selecting "send to mail
recipient", nothing happens.

Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your
default e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have
expected Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default
system e-mail client if nothing else was selected.

Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail
compose window appear. I also tried by creating a new sendto
shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose command but in this case the
compose window opens, but with no attachment. With 2.46 and
2.48b1 i had no problem.

Thanks!

Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your
system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but
now that you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what
to start up properly??

Daniel, Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my
sistem. It starts on sendto command but with no mail-compose window
(and no file attached).

Francesco

Sorry, Francesco, that's about my limit ... maybe someone else will chip in!

Daniel

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-02 Thread Francesco

Il giorno sabato 29 aprile 2017 11:57:27 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:
> > Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> >> On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:
> >>> Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
>  Just saw it here
>  https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
> >>> recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
> >>> Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to 
> >>> mail recipient" command does nothing.
> >>> Any suggestion on how to fix it?
> >>> About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a 
> >>> few seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and best regards
> >>> Francesco
> >>>
> >> Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official
> >> Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User
> >> Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.
> >>
> >> What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
> >> recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??
> >>
> >> My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
> >> screen! ;-(
> >>
> > ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
> > When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right 
> > click and then selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.
> 
> Ah!! O.K., well then your system seems to not know what is your default 
> e-mail program. As you're using Windows, I would have expected 
> Outlook/Express or Live Mail to have been your default system e-mail 
> client if nothing else was selected.
> 
> > Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose 
> > window appear.
> > I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose 
> > command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no attachment.
> > With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> Could it be that, whilst you had SM 2.46 or 2.48b1 installed, your 
> system knew they were your default, so tried to start them, but now that 
> you have removed them, your system just doesn't know what to start up 
> properly??
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

Daniel,
Seamonkey is still registered as default email client in my sistem. It starts 
on sendto command but with no mail-compose window (and no file attached).

Francesco
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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel

On 1/05/2017 10:00 PM, TCW wrote:

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 00:32:39 +1000, Daniel
wrote:

On 28/04/2017 8:25 PM, TCW wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:45:05 +1000, Daniel
wrote:

On 28/04/2017 4:21 AM, TCW wrote:

On 4/24/17 8:05 AM, TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Well, after quiet a bit of regular browser use, I am up to 1.2GB of RAM
use on SM 2.51b with one window open.

While I would say that's a memory leak (even after running the options
under about:memory "Free Memory") it's certainly not as laggy as 2.50
was when it got to this RAM consumption level. Still seems performant to
me.

TCW, is it an activity thing or is it just growing?? i.e. if you find
out how much memory SM is using, then do nothing for some time
(overnight, maybe, or whilst you go for a meal), then when you comeback,
has the memory usage increased??

Seems to be related to activity. It doesn't seem to grow it just left
alone. Memory just isn't getting freed.

Which gets back to one of my hobby-horses why have buckets of
memory if it never gets used!!

Well, yes and no. This same mentality is why media rich (read:
bloated) web sites require a fast Internet connection and gobs of RAM
because they aren't designed for efficiency but because it's assumed
the user has gobs of RAM and system horsepower. No one designs apps to
be efficient, just chew up all that RAM CPU and all else be damned. No
one benefits from that mentality. Throwing more resources at the
problem never actually *fixes* the problem.

But if you have other programs that need that memory, then the system
(i.e. the OS, not any particular program) should be able to free up that
(used but now un-needed) memory but what would I know??

Not much, trust me! :-P

Right. People don't buy computers just to run a web browser. There
always other apps competing for memory+resources and one can make the
easy leap to the above stated argument that the other apps too are not
written for efficiency but to eat up as much resources as is possible.
Kinda sad when you think about it.

I think the Mozilla devs try hard to squash memory leaks (memshrink)
and improve performance (AWFY/AWSY) but most of the low hanging fruit
has already been picked. Better tools yet to be developed that will
more readily find memory leaks will help in this arena. Until then, we
keep reporting issues. =)

RGR!!

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel

On 29/04/2017 4:55 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:

On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??

My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either
screen! ;-(

Thanks!

--
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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-29 Thread Francesco

Il giorno venerdì 28 aprile 2017 16:40:40 UTC+2, Daniel ha scritto:
> On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, Francesco wrote:
> > Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
> >> Just saw it here
> >> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
> >
> > Hello,
> > i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
> > recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
> > Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to 
> > mail recipient" command does nothing.
> > Any suggestion on how to fix it?
> > About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few 
> > seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.
> >
> > Thanks and best regards
> > Francesco
> >
> Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official 
> Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User 
> Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.
> 
> What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail 
> recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??
> 
> My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either 
> screen! ;-(
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

ahahah... sorry, i just noticed that my post was not completely clear...
When i try to send a file through Windows explorer by using mouse right click 
and then selecting "send to mail recipient", nothing happens.
Or better, Seamonkey opens, if previously closed, but no mail compose window 
appear.
I also tried by creating a new sendto shortcut to Seamonkey with /compose 
command but in this case the compose window opens, but with no attachment.
With 2.46 and 2.48b1 i had no problem.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-28 Thread Daniel


On 28/04/2017 11:20 PM, surferjoe...@gmail.com wrote:

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


Hello,
i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command does nothing.
Any suggestion on how to fix it?
About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few 
seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.

Thanks and best regards
Francesco

Francesco, as shown in my sig file I'm using the SM 2.46 Official 
Release Version, not the unofficial 2.50 release (although you User 
Agent suggests you posted via Google) that you suggest you are using.


What are you doing when you try to 'right click "send to mail 
recipient"'?? Are you in a Browser window, or the Mail & Newsgroup screen??


My Right Click list fails to offer me "send to mail recipient" in either 
screen! ;-(


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-28 Thread Daniel


On 28/04/2017 8:25 PM, TCW wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:45:05 +1000, Daniel 
wrote:


On 28/04/2017 4:21 AM, TCW wrote:

On 4/24/17 8:05 AM, TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


Well, after quiet a bit of regular browser use, I am up to 1.2GB of RAM
use on SM 2.51b with one window open.

While I would say that's a memory leak (even after running the options
under about:memory "Free Memory") it's certainly not as laggy as 2.50
was when it got to this RAM consumption level. Still seems performant to
me.


TCW, is it an activity thing or is it just growing?? i.e. if you find
out how much memory SM is using, then do nothing for some time
(overnight, maybe, or whilst you go for a meal), then when you comeback,
has the memory usage increased??


Seems to be related to activity. It doesn't seem to grow it just left
alone. Memory just isn't getting freed.

Which gets back to one of my hobby-horses  why have buckets of 
memory if it never gets used!!


But if you have other programs that need that memory, then the system 
(i.e. the OS, not any particular program) should be able to free up that 
(used but now un-needed) memory  but what would I know??


Not much, trust me! :-P

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-28 Thread surferjoefra

Il giorno lunedì 24 aprile 2017 15:05:33 UTC+2, TCW ha scritto:
> Just saw it here 
> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Hello,
i installed this release and noticed that the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command doesn't work anymore.
Seamonkey is defined as default mail client, but the right click "send to mail 
recipient" command does nothing.
Any suggestion on how to fix it?
About memory usage, in my case sometimes it raeches 1,5 GB, but after a few 
seconds it goes to 500 MB with 3 tabs open.

Thanks and best regards
Francesco
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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-28 Thread Richmond

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> It is the same in Thunderbird. Mozilla changed locale apis. Might not be 
> fixed 
> completely for some time or ever. Tracked in Bug 1344594 and follow ups.
> 
> Carl Kaufmann wrote:
>> TCW wrote:
>>> Just saw it here 
>>> https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> It changed the date format in mail/news on my system (Windows 10, x64), from 
>> ISO8601 (-MM-DD) to US standard (MM/DD/YY), and I see no way to change 
>> it 
>> to obey the system setting again.
> 

Hartmut Figge has a patch for that. He posted it in mozilla.test, at
3/24/17, 12:48 AM GMT.

(I hope he doesn't mind the publicity. :)

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-28 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

No, only the aurora a2 channel has been discontinued by Mozilla. Looking at 
recent code quality and other issues a mistake imho but telling the world how 
stable the current release process became made a good press release and that 
is all what seems to count :)


The logical step is to switch to beta.

FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.


I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(


It is in the mail component and not a bad one.

FRG


I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 'A2' 
releases!


So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??



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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel


On 28/04/2017 4:21 AM, TCW wrote:

On 4/24/17 8:05 AM, TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


Well, after quiet a bit of regular browser use, I am up to 1.2GB of RAM
use on SM 2.51b with one window open.

While I would say that's a memory leak (even after running the options
under about:memory "Free Memory") it's certainly not as laggy as 2.50
was when it got to this RAM consumption level. Still seems performant to
me.


TCW, is it an activity thing or is it just growing?? i.e. if you find 
out how much memory SM is using, then do nothing for some time 
(overnight, maybe, or whilst you go for a meal), then when you comeback, 
has the memory usage increased??


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Daniel


On 28/04/2017 5:30 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for
some time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next
planned release after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after
Firefox 57 it might never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora
versions have been discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians
release/beta versions. I can not tell you when the next beta will
arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have absolute priority.


I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(


It is in the mail component and not a bad one.

FRG


I thought the 'A' releases were being discontinued totally, not just the 
'A2' releases!


So the switch should be to the 'B' releases, shouldn't it??

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Pat Connors


Thank you, Thomas

Press CTRL-ALT-DEL (if you're using Windows) and click Task Manager. 
Might also have to click on "Show Processes From All Users" to see it. 



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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

The next releases after 2.48 will be from the ESR branch (2.49.x) for some 
time. They will contain only bug and security fixes. The next planned release 
after 2.49.x is 2.56 ESR. Depending on the fallout after Firefox 57 it might 
never come to this but we will see. The a2 aurora versions have been 
discontinued. Please switch to 2.52a1 or Adrians release/beta versions. I can 
not tell you when the next beta will arrive. Getting 2.48 and 2.49.1 out have 
absolute priority.

> I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
> don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(

It is in the mail component and not a bad one.

FRG

Richmond wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl  writes:

Depending on the fallout after Firefox 57 this might be a dead end so please
back up you 2.49 profile. The next official version after 2.48 will be 2.49.1
from the ESR channel.

2.50 still has a notification bug which isn't bad but noticeable:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1323494

General 2.50 bugs are tracked here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1319091
FRG

Where does that leave 2.51a2 which I am using? Will it be abandoned?

I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

It is the same in Thunderbird. Mozilla changed locale apis. Might not be fixed 
completely for some time or ever. Tracked in Bug 1344594 and follow ups.


Carl Kaufmann wrote:

TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 



It changed the date format in mail/news on my system (Windows 10, x64), from 
ISO8601 (-MM-DD) to US standard (MM/DD/YY), and I see no way to change it 
to obey the system setting again.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl


No. The devtools need a long look over and nobody found the time. Sorry :(

FRG

TCW wrote:

On 4/24/17 1:41 PM, EE wrote:

TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 



Do the language packs work, and is the problem with the devtools eyedropper 
fixed yet?




Only one way to find out. ;-)



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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread TCW


On 4/24/17 8:05 AM, TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 

Well, after quiet a bit of regular browser use, I am up to 1.2GB of RAM 
use on SM 2.51b with one window open.


While I would say that's a memory leak (even after running the options 
under about:memory "Free Memory") it's certainly not as laggy as 2.50 
was when it got to this RAM consumption level. Still seems performant to me.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


TCW wrote:


On 4/27/17 12:55 PM, Pat Connors wrote:

TCW wrote:

Task manager will show current memory consumption.

I cannot find the 'task manager', I checked all the categories and do
not see it.



Press CTRL-ALT-DEL (if you're using Windows) and click Task Manager.
Might also have to click on "Show Processes From All Users" to see it.


Or CTRL-SHIFT-ESC to go there directly.

On "Show Processes From All Users," see my note upthread.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread TCW


On 4/27/17 12:55 PM, Pat Connors wrote:

TCW wrote:

Task manager will show current memory consumption.
I cannot find the 'task manager', I checked all the categories and do 
not see it.




Press CTRL-ALT-DEL (if you're using Windows) and click Task Manager. 
Might also have to click on "Show Processes From All Users" to see it.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Pat Connors


TCW wrote:

Task manager will show current memory consumption.
I cannot find the 'task manager', I checked all the categories and do 
not see it.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread TCW


On 4/27/17 4:34 AM, Richmond wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

TCW wrote:


On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:32:05 -0700, Pat Connors
 wrote:


Leaky as in memory leakage. 2.48 and 2.49 were leaky for me.
During the course of the day memory usage would just go up and up
and never be freed up until I was consuming 1-2GB RAM. 2.50beta
was fine the 2.50 release brought back the leakiness. I just
switched to the 2.51 beta this morning and I'm only using a
little over 600MB with two windows open.


Thanks for getting back to me.  I work with usually 3 windows open,
  sometimes 4 and have had no problems.  However, I do not know how
to check 'memory usage'.  So if it is leaky, I do not know.  I just
know that 2.48, 2.49 and now 2.50 are running fine for me.


Task manager will show current memory consumption.


Yes and no. There are often system processes that consume memory but are
not shown unless you check the box "Show processes from all users." The
default view can be very deceptive for example if Windows Update running
in background is secretly sucking up half your RAM.



You could use about:memory maybe. It's on the debugger menu. I am not
sure if you need the debugger addon.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Debug_And_QA_UI



Yes, but it's not going to give you a sum amount being consumed. For a 
mere mortal to parse out all the info that is shown when you measure 
usage in about:memory, it can be intimidating.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-27 Thread Richmond

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> TCW wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:32:05 -0700, Pat Connors
>>  wrote:
>>
 Leaky as in memory leakage. 2.48 and 2.49 were leaky for me.
 During the course of the day memory usage would just go up and up
 and never be freed up until I was consuming 1-2GB RAM. 2.50beta
 was fine the 2.50 release brought back the leakiness. I just
 switched to the 2.51 beta this morning and I'm only using a
 little over 600MB with two windows open.
>>>
>>> Thanks for getting back to me.  I work with usually 3 windows open,
>>>  sometimes 4 and have had no problems.  However, I do not know how
>>> to check 'memory usage'.  So if it is leaky, I do not know.  I just
>>> know that 2.48, 2.49 and now 2.50 are running fine for me.
>>
>> Task manager will show current memory consumption.
> 
> Yes and no. There are often system processes that consume memory but are 
> not shown unless you check the box "Show processes from all users." The 
> default view can be very deceptive for example if Windows Update running 
> in background is secretly sucking up half your RAM.
> 

You could use about:memory maybe. It's on the debugger menu. I am not
sure if you need the debugger addon.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Debug_And_QA_UI

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher


TCW wrote:


On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:32:05 -0700, Pat Connors
 wrote:


Leaky as in memory leakage. 2.48 and 2.49 were leaky for me.
During the course of the day memory usage would just go up and up
and never be freed up until I was consuming 1-2GB RAM. 2.50beta
was fine the 2.50 release brought back the leakiness. I just
switched to the 2.51 beta this morning and I'm only using a
little over 600MB with two windows open.


Thanks for getting back to me.  I work with usually 3 windows open,
 sometimes 4 and have had no problems.  However, I do not know how
to check 'memory usage'.  So if it is leaky, I do not know.  I just
know that 2.48, 2.49 and now 2.50 are running fine for me.


Task manager will show current memory consumption.


Yes and no. There are often system processes that consume memory but are 
not shown unless you check the box "Show processes from all users." The 
default view can be very deceptive for example if Windows Update running 
in background is secretly sucking up half your RAM.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-26 Thread Pat Connors



Leaky as in memory leakage. 2.48 and 2.49 were leaky for me. During 
the course of the day memory usage would just go up and up and never 
be freed up until I was consuming 1-2GB RAM. 2.50beta was fine the 
2.50 release brought back the leakiness. I just switched to the 2.51 
beta this morning and I'm only using a little over 600MB with two 
windows open.


Thanks for getting back to me.  I work with usually 3 windows open, 
sometimes 4 and have had no problems.  However, I do not know how to 
check 'memory usage'.  So if it is leaky, I do not know.  I just know 
that 2.48, 2.49 and now 2.50 are running fine for me.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-26 Thread TCW


On 4/26/17 1:32 PM, Pat Connors wrote:


I have found this final version of Adrian's 2.50 leaky as the previous 
versions were. The 2.50 beta from March seemed better. I was able to 
crash 2.50 after it had consumed 1+GB of RAM and then measuring memory 
but even with 2.50 beta, I was always stable. 


What does 'leaky' mean?
I have been using Adrian's versions, and have had no problems. Maybe I 
have problems that I am not aware of??




Leaky as in memory leakage. 2.48 and 2.49 were leaky for me. During the 
course of the day memory usage would just go up and up and never be 
freed up until I was consuming 1-2GB RAM. 2.50beta was fine the 2.50 
release brought back the leakiness. I just switched to the 2.51 beta 
this morning and I'm only using a little over 600MB with two windows 
open. So, not sure what's up in the release of 2.50 except RAM usage. 
When I tried to find out why? Crash! 
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-f7f9a5d4-da46-45c7-bf99-510bf0170424

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-26 Thread Pat Connors



I have found this final version of Adrian's 2.50 leaky as the previous 
versions were. The 2.50 beta from March seemed better. I was able to 
crash 2.50 after it had consumed 1+GB of RAM and then measuring memory 
but even with 2.50 beta, I was always stable. 


What does 'leaky' mean?
I have been using Adrian's versions, and have had no problems. Maybe I 
have problems that I am not aware of??


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-26 Thread TCW


On 4/24/17 4:24 PM, S Slicer wrote:

TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 




The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45, 
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. I 
have no idea why.


I have found this final version of Adrian's 2.50 leaky as the previous 
versions were. The 2.50 beta from March seemed better. I was able to 
crash 2.50 after it had consumed 1+GB of RAM and then measuring memory 
but even with 2.50 beta, I was always stable.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-25 Thread WaltS48


On 4/25/17 8:04 AM, Richmond wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl  writes:


Depending on the fallout after Firefox 57 this might be a dead end so please
back up you 2.49 profile. The next official version after 2.48 will be 2.49.1
from the ESR channel.

2.50 still has a notification bug which isn't bad but noticeable:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1323494

General 2.50 bugs are tracked here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1319091
FRG

Where does that leave 2.51a2 which I am using? Will it be abandoned?

I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(



You missed 



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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-25 Thread Richmond

Frank-Rainer Grahl  writes:

> Depending on the fallout after Firefox 57 this might be a dead end so please
> back up you 2.49 profile. The next official version after 2.48 will be 2.49.1
> from the ESR channel.
>
> 2.50 still has a notification bug which isn't bad but noticeable:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1323494
>
> General 2.50 bugs are tracked here:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1319091
> FRG

Where does that leave 2.51a2 which I am using? Will it be abandoned?

I see a bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322172 which I
don't have access to, so I guess it has security implications. :(

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread Carl Kaufmann


TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 



It changed the date format in mail/news on my system (Windows 10, x64), 
from ISO8601 (-MM-DD) to US standard (MM/DD/YY), and I see no way to 
change it to obey the system setting again.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread S Slicer


TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/


The last 64- bit version that worked for me was 2.45!

I even uninstalled all add-ons, and v2.50, like the others after v2.45, 
crashed every time I tried to compose an e-mail or reply to an e-mail. 
I have no idea why.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread TCW


On 4/24/17 1:41 PM, EE wrote:

TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 



Do the language packs work, and is the problem with the devtools 
eyedropper fixed yet?




Only one way to find out. ;-)
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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread EE


TCW wrote:

Just saw it here
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Do the language packs work, and is the problem with the devtools 
eyedropper fixed yet?


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl


2.50 will not work on Vista/Server 2008 or XP/Server 2003/XP64.

FRG

TCW wrote:

On 4/24/17 8:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/24/17 9:05 AM, TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 




He isn't going to follow the ESR channel so WindowsXP and Vista users can 
use his builds?




Hard to say without giving it a try. I imagine if you're using his past 2.50 
build from mid-March, this version should likely work. As always, back up 
before you try.


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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread TCW


On 4/24/17 8:27 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/24/17 9:05 AM, TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 




He isn't going to follow the ESR channel so WindowsXP and Vista users 
can use his builds?




Hard to say without giving it a try. I imagine if you're using his past 
2.50 build from mid-March, this version should likely work. As always, 
back up before you try.

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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Depending on the fallout after Firefox 57 this might be a dead end so please 
back up you 2.49 profile. The next official version after 2.48 will be 2.49.1 
from the ESR channel.


2.50 still has a notification bug which isn't bad but noticeable:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1323494

General 2.50 bugs are tracked here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1319091
FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/24/17 9:05 AM, TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ 




He isn't going to follow the ESR channel so WindowsXP and Vista users can use 
his builds?




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Re: There's a new stable akalla 2.50 x64 build

2017-04-24 Thread WaltS48


On 4/24/17 9:05 AM, TCW wrote:
Just saw it here 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/



He isn't going to follow the ESR channel so WindowsXP and Vista users 
can use his builds?


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