Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Rick Merrill]

On 3/29/2016 5:19 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


Try sending a Plain Text message - more and more filters do not trust
HTML messages putting them in 'quarantine'.


A mail provider that has a blanket policy of rejecting HTML messages
should be fired for incompetence.



Agreed.
The HTML that FAIL to pass certain W3C tests and force rendering back to 
"compatibility mode" are the ones that get set aside.  Some users have 
been burned by hidden links & spam & phishing that it is the USER

that says, "no more."

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick Merrill wrote:


Try sending a Plain Text message - more and more filters do not trust
HTML messages putting them in 'quarantine'.


A mail provider that has a blanket policy of rejecting HTML messages 
should be fired for incompetence.


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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Rick Merrill]

On 2/18/2016 12:04 PM, Bill or Linda Rothman wrote:

Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a
Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:

This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


(person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4]
Message blocked due to spam content in the message.



I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this
has never occurred before.

I need help fixing this, please.

Thank you,  -Bill Rothman



Try sending a Plain Text message - more and more filters do not trust 
HTML messages putting them in 'quarantine'.

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

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Keith Thompson wrote:

On 02/20/16 12:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


In addition to SM, I used Thunderbird, Thunderbird portable and Windows
Live mail. None worked.  WoW has changed their security such that the
smtp server will not accept their new published settings.  I have been
able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with the imap settings.
You do have to go into google+ and set it for the less secure client.
SM is not strong enough to connect without that change.  I found this
when setting up my wifes SM for the gmail smtp.


I'm surprised that "SM is not strong enough" -- it supports a variety of
connection security formats. What are the Gmail parameters that SM can't
handle? Or do you mean to say that Gmail requires insecure sending and SM
doesn't like that?


I'm not quite sure.  I had all the parameters that gmail asked for in
impap settings but couldn't get gmail to receive the password for
sending. Thats when the popup showed that said to click on the less
secure setting in Google+.  As soon as I did that, the gmail smtp server
accepted the password and began working.


If you're referring to the option "Allow less secure apps", I think that 
means anything not produced by Google.


Mark.

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

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Keith Thompson wrote:

On 02/20/16 9:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote on 20/02/2016 04:41:

  I have been able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with
the imap
settings.

No, this is not a work-around  Your way of sending mail is that the
"From:" variable is your gmail-adress and NOT your wow-adress.

You may test this by sending me a mail 

My from address is the wow address.  The reply to address is my gmail
address.  This is true on my laptop and desktop.  On my wifes laptop,
she only has the wow address so that both the From and the reply to
would be the wow address


Your email arrived with an @gmail.com From: address. Even if SeaMonkey 
is configured to send with a different From: address, and that's how it 
looks in your Sent folder, I've found before that GMail's SMTP server 
replaces it with the GMail address you use to authenticate with the server.


Mark.

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Ray_Net]

Keith Thompson wrote on 20/02/2016 23:56:

On 02/20/16 9:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote on 20/02/2016 04:41:
  I have been able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with 
the imap

settings.

No, this is not a work-around  Your way of sending mail is that the
"From:" variable is your gmail-adress and NOT your wow-adress.

You may test this by sending me a mail 
My from address is the wow address.  The reply to address is my gmail 
address.  This is true on my laptop and desktop.  On my wifes laptop, 
she only has the wow address so that both the From and the reply to 
would be the wow address
I don't believe you .. It's the inverse ... Please send me a mail, so i 
can check ... :-)

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Keith Thompson wrote:

On 02/20/16 12:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


In addition to SM, I used Thunderbird, Thunderbird portable and Windows
Live mail. None worked.  WoW has changed their security such that the
smtp server will not accept their new published settings.  I have been
able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with the imap settings.
You do have to go into google+ and set it for the less secure client.
SM is not strong enough to connect without that change.  I found this
when setting up my wifes SM for the gmail smtp.


I'm surprised that "SM is not strong enough" -- it supports a variety of
connection security formats. What are the Gmail parameters that SM can't
handle? Or do you mean to say that Gmail requires insecure sending and SM
doesn't like that?


I'm not quite sure.  I had all the parameters that gmail asked for in
impap settings but couldn't get gmail to receive the password for
sending. Thats when the popup showed that said to click on the less
secure setting in Google+.  As soon as I did that, the gmail smtp server
accepted the password and began working.


Then it sounds like gmail couldn't handle the more secure setting, not 
SM. Put the blame where it belongs.


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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Keith Thompson]

On 02/20/16 9:53 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote on 20/02/2016 04:41:

  I have been able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with the imap
settings.

No, this is not a work-around  Your way of sending mail is that the
"From:" variable is your gmail-adress and NOT your wow-adress.

You may test this by sending me a mail 
My from address is the wow address.  The reply to address is my gmail address. 
 This is true on my laptop and desktop.  On my wifes laptop, she only has the 
wow address so that both the From and the reply to would be the wow address

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Keith Thompson]

On 02/20/16 12:57 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Keith Thompson wrote:


In addition to SM, I used Thunderbird, Thunderbird portable and Windows
Live mail. None worked.  WoW has changed their security such that the
smtp server will not accept their new published settings.  I have been
able to do the work around using the Gmail smtp with the imap settings.
You do have to go into google+ and set it for the less secure client.
SM is not strong enough to connect without that change.  I found this
when setting up my wifes SM for the gmail smtp.


I'm surprised that "SM is not strong enough" -- it supports a variety of
connection security formats. What are the Gmail parameters that SM can't
handle? Or do you mean to say that Gmail requires insecure sending and SM
doesn't like that?

I'm not quite sure.  I had all the parameters that gmail asked for in impap 
settings but couldn't get gmail to receive the password for sending. Thats 
when the popup showed that said to click on the less secure setting in 
Google+.  As soon as I did that, the gmail smtp server accepted the password 
and began working.

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[David E. Ross]

On 2/18/2016 11:00 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Bill or Linda Rothman wrote on 2/18/2016 12:04 PM:
>> Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a
>> Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:
>>
>> This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).
>>
>> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>>
> (person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4]
> Message blocked due to spam content in the message.
>>
>>
>> I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this
>> has never occurred before.
>>
>> I need help fixing this, please.
>>
>> Thank you,  -Bill Rothman
>>
> 
> Who is your email provider?  Sometimes a compny's user(s) send a lot of 
> spam and certain ISPs/mail providers will automatically block messages 
> from them. If that's the case your only recourse is to contact your 
> email provider/ISP.
> 

When I have such a problem (often involving E-mail messages to AOL
users), my first action is to contact my ISP.  When an ISP blocks E-mail
because of a spam filter, individual users are generally powerless to
correct that situation.  Instead, only the affected user's ISP can
negotiate with the blocking ISP.

-- 
David E. Ross

While many tributes to the late Supreme Court Associate Justice
Antonin Scalia now fill the news media, his legacy was not
necessarily positive.  See my "What Price Order, Mr. Justice Scalia?"
at .
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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Keith Thompson]

On 02/18/16 12:04 PM, Bill or Linda Rothman wrote:

Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a
Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:

This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


(person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4] Message
blocked due to spam content in the message.



I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this has
never occurred before.

I need help fixing this, please.

Thank you,  -Bill Rothman

Very interesting.  A friend of mine reported today that he had a problem 
sending an email to me.  His wife did send one from her machine through gmail 
and I received it just fine.  His wife asked me if I knew of any thing 
different with WOW.  At the time, I didn't but now it appears that their 
security is affecting more than me.

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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Ed Mullen]

Bill or Linda Rothman wrote on 2/18/2016 12:04 PM:

Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a
Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:

This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


(person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4]
Message blocked due to spam content in the message.



I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this
has never occurred before.

I need help fixing this, please.

Thank you,  -Bill Rothman



Who is your email provider?  Sometimes a compny's user(s) send a lot of 
spam and certain ISPs/mail providers will automatically block messages 
from them. If that's the case your only recourse is to contact your 
email provider/ISP.


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Re: Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Jonathan N. Little]

Bill or Linda Rothman wrote:

Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a
Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:

This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


(person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4]
Message blocked due to spam content in the message.

 ^^^
Well if that is the error message that you are getting then the issue is 
a change in wowway.com's spam filter, or you have some change in the 
format of your email?







I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this
has never occurred before.

I need help fixing this, please.


Things to check on your part:

Maybe wowway.com has changed to only accept PLAIN TEXT and you are 
sending HTML format mail.


Do you have some remote linked image like a wallpaper or graphic in your 
signature? That can trigger spam filters.


Are you using a SUBJECT? Empty subject field can trigger spam filters.

Has wowway.com implemented some horrid WHITELIST only system like 
EarthLink? I just love it when a EarthLink user sends me an email and I 
am *replying* to them and my message gets bounced because they to not 
have me whitelisted and they *initiated* the conversation!


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