Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Bret Busby]

On 18/12/2015, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .
>>>
>>> The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
>>> (on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".
>>>
>>> In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
>>> options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
>>> something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
>>> NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
>>> access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
>>> component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
>>> or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
>>> component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
>>> web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).
>>>
>>> I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
>>> but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
>>> functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
>>> user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
>>> component, without having to reload the last session of the web
>>> browser.
>>>
>>> Thank you in anticipation.
>>>
>> Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
>> (Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
>> modification.
>>
>> However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
>> change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
>> Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
>> referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!
>>
>
> I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
> his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
> the Internet heading like it did in Debian.
>
> AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.
>
> Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
> Ubuntuzilla.
>
> UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -
> 
>
> Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
>  which AFAIK doesn't add the
> functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.
>
> I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
> I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
> items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.
>

I am thinking now, that I may have been mistaken - I think that the
three separate menu entries to which I refer, were for the iceape
suite, which was a Debian version of Seamonkey, which was similar to,
but not exactly the same as, Seamonkey.

The next time that I do a system update (as the currently outstanding
update, involves a kernel update, which requires a system reboot, and
the reboot, with restoring browser sessions, takes a couple or a few
hours, so, gets deferred until it is less inconvenient), I need to
remember to examine the installations of Debian 6 and the previous
(10.04 and 12.04) installations of Ubuntu, to find whether I am
correct, in believing now, that it was in fact iceape, and, not
Seamonkey, that had the separate menu entries for the separate
components.

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West Australia

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 you'll know what the answer means."
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 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[WaltS48]

Bret Busby wrote:

On 18/12/2015, WaltS48  wrote:

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.

However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!



I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
the Internet heading like it did in Debian.

AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.

Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
Ubuntuzilla.

UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -


Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
 which AFAIK doesn't add the
functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.

I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.



I am thinking now, that I may have been mistaken - I think that the
three separate menu entries to which I refer, were for the iceape
suite, which was a Debian version of Seamonkey, which was similar to,
but not exactly the same as, Seamonkey.



FWIW I just installed the Ubuntuzilla PPA and SeaMonkey from it.

I only see Mozilla Build of SeaMonkey in my Applications > Internet menu


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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Daniel]

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.

Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu 
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate 
modification.


However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and 
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer, 
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are 
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.

However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!



I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
the Internet heading like it did in Debian.

AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.

Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
Ubuntuzilla.

UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -


Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
 which AFAIK doesn't add the
functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.

I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.




All he has to do is create custom shortcuts in ~/.local/share/applications

I use Ubuntu so it uses only one shortcut file with right-click actions 
similar to Windows 7+. But you could easily divide it up into separate 
shortcuts, e.g., seamonkey-browser.desktop,  seamonkey-mail.desktop 
seamonkey-addressbook.desktop, etc. My seamonkey.desktop:


[Desktop Entry]
X-AppInstall-Package=seamonkey-mozilla-build
X-AppInstall-Section=main

Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Mozilla Build of Seamonkey
GenericName=Internet Suite
Comment=Web Browser, Email/News Client, HTML Editor, IRC Client
Exec=seamonkey %u
Icon=seamonkey-mozilla-build
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;Email;WebDevelopment;IRCClient;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/chrome;video/webm;application/x-xpinstall;;x-scheme-handler/mailto;application/x-xpinstall;
StartupNotify=true
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;Mail;Compose;Contacts

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=Open a New Window
Exec=seamonkey -new-window
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=Open a New Private Window
Exec=seamonkey -private-window
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Mail]
Name=Mail Client
Exec=seamonkey -mail
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Compose]
Name=Compose New Message
Exec=seamonkey -compose
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Contacts]
Name=Contacts
Exec=seamonkey -addressbook
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=app-install-data

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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[WaltS48]

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.

However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!



I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so 
his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under 
the Internet heading like it did in Debian.


AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.

Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called 
Ubuntuzilla.


UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla - 



Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project - 
 which AFAIK doesn't add the 
functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.


I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears 
I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu 
items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.


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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Jonathan N. Little]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.





Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.




Thinking a little bit more you are using Mate, isn't that basically 
GNOME2? You could just use Alacarte GUI to create the separate menu 
entries. Just define each with the associated command line switch. Easy 
peasy!


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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[WaltS48]

On 12/18/2015 08:23 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.

However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!



I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
the Internet heading like it did in Debian.

AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.

Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
Ubuntuzilla.

UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -


Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
 which AFAIK doesn't add the
functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.

I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.



Ah, just checked and it appears I have to add the Ubuntuzilla PPA if I 
want to install from my systems software manager.


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Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Bret Busby]

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.

-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

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 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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 published by Pan Books, 1992


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