Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-28 Thread Ant

On 6/28/2020 1:21 PM, EE wrote:
...
I get my new versions from the SeaMonkey download & release site and 
install manually.  I prefer to do it that way anyhow.


I still like the tiny updates to upgrade. :/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-28 Thread EE

Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik



Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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install manually.  I prefer to do it that way anyhow.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-28 Thread Ant

On 6/27/2020 1:08 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/20 3:50 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the 
release

update channel.

Best regards,

Erik




Hope this explains the problem for you.

Release Notes 


Yeah, it had been like this for years. :( Hopefully, it will be fixed 
soon. :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-27 Thread WaltS48

On 6/27/20 3:50 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik




Hope this explains the problem for you.

Release Notes 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-27 Thread Erik Rull
Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik



Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.53.2.
> 
> So please check out [1] or [2].
> 
> Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
> am working on it.
> 
> 
> Edmund
> 
> Links:
> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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Missing posts (was Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!)

2020-06-26 Thread Ant

On 6/25/2020 10:31 AM, Yamo' wrote:


My money is on sever side issue or more likely deletion by the list moderator
for whatever reason.


Yes, I read from another usenet server and I didn't seen post disappeared.


Is this still happening? I haven't noticed any missing posts on my end.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-25 Thread Yamo'
Hi,


Frank-Rainer Grahl a tapoté le 17/06/2020 12:39:


> My money is on sever side issue or more likely deletion by the list moderator 
> for whatever reason.

Yes, I read from another usenet server and I didn't seen post disappeared.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-19 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 19-06-20 06:42:

Steve Wendt wrote on 18/06/2020 4:32 AM:

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject 
"Missing newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to 
a bug in newer versions.


"SeaMonkey/1.1.19"!! WOW!! I thought there *MUST* have been a typo 
crept in there somehow  but, sure enough, that's what Gunther's UA 
shows!!


His user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.2; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) 
Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/2.0 SeaMonkey/1.1.19


Looks like a VERY VERY OLD "override" because we see : Firefox 2.0 :-)



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-19 Thread WaltS48

On 6/19/20 12:12 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 19-06-20 06:42:

Steve Wendt wrote on 18/06/2020 4:32 AM:

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject 
"Missing newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to 
a bug in newer versions.


"SeaMonkey/1.1.19"!! WOW!! I thought there *MUST* have been a typo 
crept in there somehow  but, sure enough, that's what Gunther's UA 
shows!!


His user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.2; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) 
Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/2.0 SeaMonkey/1.1.19


Looks like a VERY VERY OLD "override" because we see : Firefox 2.0 :-)



Could y'all stop cross posting to m.dev.apps.seamonkey. Thanks!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-19 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote on 19-06-20 06:42:

Steve Wendt wrote on 18/06/2020 4:32 AM:

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject 
"Missing newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to 
a bug in newer versions.


"SeaMonkey/1.1.19"!! WOW!! I thought there *MUST* have been a typo 
crept in there somehow  but, sure enough, that's what Gunther's UA 
shows!!


His user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.2; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) 
Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/2.0 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

Looks like a VERY VERY OLD "override" because we see : Firefox 2.0 :-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-18 Thread Daniel

Steve Wendt wrote on 18/06/2020 4:32 AM:

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject "Missing 
newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to a bug in 
newer versions.


"SeaMonkey/1.1.19"!! WOW!! I thought there *MUST* have been a typo crept 
in there somehow  but, sure enough, that's what Gunther's UA shows!!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-18 Thread Gunther Nikl
Steve Wendt wrote:
> On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:
> 
>> Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?
> 
> Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject "Missing 
> newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to a bug in 
> newer versions.

No, there are no such messages with that subject. There is only one
message from Ant where he replied to the post of 2.53.2 release.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Nobody via support-seamonkey

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

My money is on sever side issue or more likely deletion by the list 
moderator for whatever reason.


Or for no reason at all. CI has been doing that for a while. If you get 
on his $#!+ list, anything you say, no matter how helpful or innocuous, 
is deleted. And there's no way out; it's a permanent death penalty with 
no recourse.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Ant

On 6/17/2020 3:39 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 17/06/2020 6:18 PM:

Steve Wendt wrote:

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Isn't there a setting that Users can change which means that that post 
should not be 'stored' on a news server forever-and-a-day?? i.e. the 
messages expires and 'disappears'.


I think it might be possible for a 'newbie' to mistakenly set this 
setting ... and then wonder what is going on when their post 
'disappears', but I would not expect this to happen in Ant's case, or 
for that matter Edmund's case!! ;-)


My money is on sever side issue or more likely deletion by the list 
moderator for whatever reason.


Who is the moderator? (S)He should post about this in here.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Ant

On 6/17/2020 1:18 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Steve Wendt wrote:

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well


I wasn't seeing posts disappear before, but ironically Ant's reply to 
this one ("Missing newsgroup posts") is getting the "Article not 
found" error in Mail/News for me here.  However, it displays just fine 
in the browser interface:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/7dednrs4hoqmrxtdnz2dnuu7-uxnn...@mozilla.org

So, I'd say this is probably a bug in the Mail/News code.


His most recent post to this thread has also vanished now.  I think Ant 
has managed to find an option which causes his posts to expire 
automatically.  The other two options:


Huh? Where?



- bug in the Mail/News code
- divine intervention by Chris Ilias
seem pretty unlikely.
This is not like Edmund Wong's post which vanished for him but not for 
anyone else, Ant's posts are vanishing for everyone.  As for it still 
being available in the browser interface, I can't understand why there 
should be a lag there.


Hmm!
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject "Missing 
newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to a bug in 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Gunther Nikl
Edmund Wong wrote:
> Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?
> 
> Edmund

The announcement post is available at my end. However, I cannot tell
if that means anything. Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl




Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 17/06/2020 6:18 PM:

Steve Wendt wrote:

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Isn't there a setting that Users can change which means that that post should 
not be 'stored' on a news server forever-and-a-day?? i.e. the messages expires 
and 'disappears'.


I think it might be possible for a 'newbie' to mistakenly set this setting ... 
and then wonder what is going on when their post 'disappears', but I would not 
expect this to happen in Ant's case, or for that matter Edmund's case!! ;-)


My money is on sever side issue or more likely deletion by the list moderator 
for whatever reason.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Daniel

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 17/06/2020 6:18 PM:

Steve Wendt wrote:

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well


I wasn't seeing posts disappear before, but ironically Ant's reply to 
this one ("Missing newsgroup posts") is getting the "Article not 
found" error in Mail/News for me here.  However, it displays just fine 
in the browser interface:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/7dednrs4hoqmrxtdnz2dnuu7-uxnn...@mozilla.org

So, I'd say this is probably a bug in the Mail/News code.


His most recent post to this thread has also vanished now.  I think Ant 
has managed to find an option which causes his posts to expire 
automatically.  The other two options:

- bug in the Mail/News code
- divine intervention by Chris Ilias
seem pretty unlikely.
This is not like Edmund Wong's post which vanished for him but not for 
anyone else, Ant's posts are vanishing for everyone.  As for it still 
being available in the browser interface, I can't understand why there 
should be a lag there.


Isn't there a setting that Users can change which means that that post 
should not be 'stored' on a news server forever-and-a-day?? i.e. the 
messages expires and 'disappears'.


I think it might be possible for a 'newbie' to mistakenly set this 
setting ... and then wonder what is going on when their post 
'disappears', but I would not expect this to happen in Ant's case, or 
for that matter Edmund's case!! ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-17 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Steve Wendt wrote:

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well


I wasn't seeing posts disappear before, but ironically Ant's reply to 
this one ("Missing newsgroup posts") is getting the "Article not found" 
error in Mail/News for me here.  However, it displays just fine in the 
browser interface:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/7dednrs4hoqmrxtdnz2dnuu7-uxnn...@mozilla.org

So, I'd say this is probably a bug in the Mail/News code.


His most recent post to this thread has also vanished now.  I think Ant 
has managed to find an option which causes his posts to expire 
automatically.  The other two options:

- bug in the Mail/News code
- divine intervention by Chris Ilias
seem pretty unlikely.
This is not like Edmund Wong's post which vanished for him but not for 
anyone else, Ant's posts are vanishing for everyone.  As for it still 
being available in the browser interface, I can't understand why there 
should be a lag there.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well


I wasn't seeing posts disappear before, but ironically Ant's reply to 
this one ("Missing newsgroup posts") is getting the "Article not found" 
error in Mail/News for me here.  However, it displays just fine in the 
browser interface:

news://news.mozilla.org:119/7dednrs4hoqmrxtdnz2dnuu7-uxnn...@mozilla.org

So, I'd say this is probably a bug in the Mail/News code.
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Missing newsgroup posts (was Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!)

2020-06-16 Thread Ant

On 6/16/2020 4:22 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 6/14/2020 11:16 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund


Hmm, my "Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | 
xul.dll | GetUpdateRect." thread post from 6/14/2020 2:00 PM PDT says:


"Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

 Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
 Perhaps the article has expired?
 Try searching for article: 
 (115646)"


:(


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well, as has the one I 
replied to 4 1/2 hours ago - the one where you wrote "I thought cancel 
your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet server?".  Very 
strange, other posts of yours are still around but those two (at least) 
vanished in both groups.


I wonder what's going on. Is this usenet server having issues? 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey/6Ga_5XKfW1o/kQf0nX0LBgAJ 
has it though. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey/cUI84PfSJX4 
has Edmund's original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post as well. :/

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 16/06/2020 9:22 PM:

Ant wrote:

On 6/14/2020 11:16 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post 
deleted?


Edmund


Hmm, my "Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | 
xul.dll | GetUpdateRect." thread post from 6/14/2020 2:00 PM PDT says:


"Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

 Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
 Perhaps the article has expired?
 Try searching for article: 
 (115646)"


:(


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well, as has the one I 
replied to 4 1/2 hours ago - the one where you wrote "I thought cancel 
your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet server?".  Very 
strange, other posts of yours are still around but those two (at 
least) vanished in both groups.


The post by Ant that you are replying to, Don, now seems to have been 
removed as well!!


But the previous post by Ant in this thread is still there!! Weird!!



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Daniel via support-seamonkey

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 16/06/2020 9:22 PM:

Ant wrote:

On 6/14/2020 11:16 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund


Hmm, my "Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | 
xul.dll | GetUpdateRect." thread post from 6/14/2020 2:00 PM PDT says:


"Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

 Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
 Perhaps the article has expired?
 Try searching for article: 
 (115646)"


:(


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well, as has the one I 
replied to 4 1/2 hours ago - the one where you wrote "I thought cancel 
your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet server?".  Very 
strange, other posts of yours are still around but those two (at least) 
vanished in both groups.


The post by Ant that you are replying to, Don, now seems to have been 
removed as well!!


But the previous post by Ant in this thread is still there!! Weird!!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ant wrote:

On 6/14/2020 11:16 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund


Hmm, my "Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | 
GetUpdateRect." thread post from 6/14/2020 2:00 PM PDT says:


"Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

     Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
     Perhaps the article has expired?
     Try searching for article: 
 (115646)"


:(


That posting of yours has vanished for me as well, as has the one I 
replied to 4 1/2 hours ago - the one where you wrote "I thought cancel 
your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet server?".  Very 
strange, other posts of yours are still around but those two (at least) 
vanished in both groups.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Ant

On 6/14/2020 11:16 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund


Hmm, my "Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | 
GetUpdateRect." thread post from 6/14/2020 2:00 PM PDT says:


"Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

Newsgroup server responded: no such article in group
Perhaps the article has expired?
Try searching for article: 
 (115646)"


:(
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-16 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Ant wrote:

On 6/15/2020 3:25 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund



It is just you.
You could file a bug if you think it is serious enough, although I'd 
go for option 4) - you accidentally hit "delete".


I thought cancel your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet 
server?


That is correct, but you can "delete" any post and then it no longer 
appears for you.  I have several spam filters for mozilla.general and 
mozilla.support.seamonkey, they "delete" posts so that I never get to 
see them.
oh, and I removed the reply to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey for this post, 
I really don't think the developers care.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-15 Thread Ant

On 6/15/2020 3:25 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund



It is just you.
You could file a bug if you think it is serious enough, although I'd go 
for option 4) - you accidentally hit "delete".


I thought cancel your own newsgroup posts doesn't work in this usenet 
server?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-15 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Edmund Wong wrote:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund



It is just you.
You could file a bug if you think it is serious enough, although I'd go 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-15 Thread Daniel

Edmund Wong wrote on 15/06/2020 4:16 PM:

Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund

Hmm!! I still see it listed in the Newsgroup index, but when I click on 
it, I come up empty  even View -> Message Source brings up an empty 
screen!


Did you upset someone, Edmund?? ;-P

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-06-15 Thread Edmund Wong
Is it just me or was my original SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released post deleted?

Edmund

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-05-04 Thread Paul Bergsagel

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/


Thanks.  Good work. So far 2.53.2 is good on MacOS 10.15.4 Catalina.
Thanks for all the work to produce this release.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-05-03 Thread Ant

On 5/3/2020 5:22 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/


Thanks and good job as usual, Edmund. :)
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SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

2020-05-03 Thread Edmund Wong
Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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