Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another message. The second one, the Back one message button becomes active (Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new message. The third one shows the Forward one message active (Back one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous Back one message button. Is this not what you're seeing? You are correct, I was used to using the buttons to move through the list, just up or down and was not paying attention to the real use of the buttons in All American. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Robert Kaiser a écrit : What are you talking about? ChatZilla is surely still bundled. I thought I'd read here that it now had to be installed separately. My bad! S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 6:09 AM: Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another message. The second one, the Back one message button becomes active (Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new message. The third one shows the Forward one message active (Back one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous Back one message button. Is this not what you're seeing? You are correct, I was used to using the buttons to move through the list, just up or down and was not paying attention to the real use of the buttons in All American. Sorry for any inconvenience. Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme. If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of where it differs so I can investigate it further. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme. If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of where it differs so I can investigate it further. It was entirely my error, I had it confused with next. But one other question- I have the flag throbber in mail but just the regular netscape one in the browser. Is there any way to have the flag in both? -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 11:12 AM: Sailfish wrote: Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme. If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of where it differs so I can investigate it further. It was entirely my error, I had it confused with next. But one other question- I have the flag throbber in mail but just the regular netscape one in the browser. Is there any way to have the flag in both? The flag throbber takes up a large amount of vertical space so it is only displayed when you have the Customize Use Small Icons box unchecked. The downside is that in that mode, button text is not display (although, the hover-over button label does display the button name.) Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather, the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather, the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme. Yes you are correct, bad eyesight. I am using this on a netbook. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 12:07 PM: Sailfish wrote: Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather, the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme. Yes you are correct, bad eyesight. I am using this on a netbook. Okay, don't hesitate to let me know if you have additional questions. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish a écrit : Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. Oh, please do port Simple Green! S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what S. Beaulieu graced us with on 9/28/2011 7:43 AM: Sailfish a écrit : Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. Oh, please do port Simple Green! I enjoy Andy Fraley's Netscape/Thunderbird 9 Netstripe theme (Simple Green) and the blue variation (Simply Blue) a lot but, regrettably, the requirement to add all the additional toolbar button icons for Composer and chatZilla isn't in the cards at this time. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish a écrit : Oh, please do port Simple Green! I enjoy Andy Fraley's Netscape/Thunderbird 9 Netstripe theme (Simple Green) and the blue variation (Simply Blue) a lot but, regrettably, the requirement to add all the additional toolbar button icons for Composer and chatZilla isn't in the cards at this time. Considering the fact that Composer is more or less dead and that chatZilla is not bundled with SM anymore, would it be possible to simply drop them both from the theme to make it available? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what S. Beaulieu graced us with on 9/28/2011 10:02 AM: Sailfish a écrit : Oh, please do port Simple Green! I enjoy Andy Fraley's Netscape/Thunderbird 9 Netstripe theme (Simple Green) and the blue variation (Simply Blue) a lot but, regrettably, the requirement to add all the additional toolbar button icons for Composer and chatZilla isn't in the cards at this time. Considering the fact that Composer is more or less dead and that chatZilla is not bundled with SM anymore, would it be possible to simply drop them both from the theme to make it available? Perhaps, however, I still have Raceday, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic to get working first. I'll keep it on my Follow-up list. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
S. Beaulieu schrieb: Considering the fact that Composer is more or less dead and that chatZilla is not bundled with SM anymore, would it be possible to simply drop them both from the theme to make it available? What are you talking about? ChatZilla is surely still bundled. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 5:48 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/12/2011 9:33 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? [snip /] I've just ported All American, Oh Canada!, Viva Mexico!, Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern theme to SM2.4+. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.4 . Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Modern Mozillium was the default theme for Mozilla Suite version M15 and Netscape 6.0.1. It sports a bright chrome-like background with steelblue-like icons. This is one of the shiniest themes out there. All American, Oh Canada and Viva Mexico make up the North American Series all present a patriotic view of each country using their unfurled flags as toolbar background imagery, an animated waving flag for the throbber along with other country-specific symbology. The North American Series themes are available on AMO but are in the sandbox, awaiting review and approval. Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, however, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Do not know if it is just my set up -- using SM 2.3.3 on windows XP sp3. I installed the All American theme and like it but when reading mail or newsgroups the forward one message is grayed out and does not work. I can click on the go back one message OK. Maybe a bug or maybe something else I have installed. Hmm, I'm using SM 2.3.3 with All American to reply and I'm not seeing the problem. It seems to work just like the default theme. While I haven't made any changes in that stylesheet in a long while, can you verify if you are using the current theme version, 1.24.20110925? -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 5:48 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/12/2011 9:33 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? [snip /] I've just ported All American, Oh Canada!, Viva Mexico!, Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern theme to SM2.4+. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.4 . Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Modern Mozillium was the default theme for Mozilla Suite version M15 and Netscape 6.0.1. It sports a bright chrome-like background with steelblue-like icons. This is one of the shiniest themes out there. All American, Oh Canada and Viva Mexico make up the North American Series all present a patriotic view of each country using their unfurled flags as toolbar background imagery, an animated waving flag for the throbber along with other country-specific symbology. The North American Series themes are available on AMO but are in the sandbox, awaiting review and approval. Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, however, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Do not know if it is just my set up -- using SM 2.3.3 on windows XP sp3. I installed the All American theme and like it but when reading mail or newsgroups the forward one message is grayed out and does not work. I can click on the go back one message OK. Maybe a bug or maybe something else I have installed. Hmm, I'm using SM 2.3.3 with All American to reply and I'm not seeing the problem. It seems to work just like the default theme. While I haven't made any changes in that stylesheet in a long while, can you verify if you are using the current theme version, 1.24.20110925? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/themeallamerican.jpg/ Just today I went to https://www.projectit.com/ and installed from there, it was for Sm 2.2+ Build 09-27-11. I deleted it and reinstalled but it was the same. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 7:20 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 5:48 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/12/2011 9:33 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? [snip /] I've just ported All American, Oh Canada!, Viva Mexico!, Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern theme to SM2.4+. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.4 . Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Modern Mozillium was the default theme for Mozilla Suite version M15 and Netscape 6.0.1. It sports a bright chrome-like background with steelblue-like icons. This is one of the shiniest themes out there. All American, Oh Canada and Viva Mexico make up the North American Series all present a patriotic view of each country using their unfurled flags as toolbar background imagery, an animated waving flag for the throbber along with other country-specific symbology. The North American Series themes are available on AMO but are in the sandbox, awaiting review and approval. Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, however, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Do not know if it is just my set up -- using SM 2.3.3 on windows XP sp3. I installed the All American theme and like it but when reading mail or newsgroups the forward one message is grayed out and does not work. I can click on the go back one message OK. Maybe a bug or maybe something else I have installed. Hmm, I'm using SM 2.3.3 with All American to reply and I'm not seeing the problem. It seems to work just like the default theme. While I haven't made any changes in that stylesheet in a long while, can you verify if you are using the current theme version, 1.24.20110925? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/themeallamerican.jpg/ Just today I went to https://www.projectit.com/ and installed from there, it was for Sm 2.2+ Build 09-27-11. I deleted it and reinstalled but it was the same. REF:http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt1.PNG http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt2.PNG http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt3.PNG Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another message. The second one, the Back one message button becomes active (Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new message. The third one shows the Forward one message active (Back one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous Back one message button. Is this not what you're seeing? -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 7:20 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/28/2011 5:48 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/12/2011 9:33 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? [snip /] I've just ported All American, Oh Canada!, Viva Mexico!, Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern theme to SM2.4+. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.4 . Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Modern Mozillium was the default theme for Mozilla Suite version M15 and Netscape 6.0.1. It sports a bright chrome-like background with steelblue-like icons. This is one of the shiniest themes out there. All American, Oh Canada and Viva Mexico make up the North American Series all present a patriotic view of each country using their unfurled flags as toolbar background imagery, an animated waving flag for the throbber along with other country-specific symbology. The North American Series themes are available on AMO but are in the sandbox, awaiting review and approval. Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, however, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Do not know if it is just my set up -- using SM 2.3.3 on windows XP sp3. I installed the All American theme and like it but when reading mail or newsgroups the forward one message is grayed out and does not work. I can click on the go back one message OK. Maybe a bug or maybe something else I have installed. Hmm, I'm using SM 2.3.3 with All American to reply and I'm not seeing the problem. It seems to work just like the default theme. While I haven't made any changes in that stylesheet in a long while, can you verify if you are using the current theme version, 1.24.20110925? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/themeallamerican.jpg/ Just today I went to https://www.projectit.com/ and installed from there, it was for Sm 2.2+ Build 09-27-11. I deleted it and reinstalled but it was the same. REF: http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt1.PNG http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt2.PNG http://projectit.com/multimedia/image/png/SM233Pt3.PNG Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another message. The second one, the Back one message button becomes active (Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new message. The third one shows the Forward one message active (Back one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous Back one message button. Is this not what you're seeing? It is what I am seeing. -- SeaMonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/12/2011 9:33 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? [snip /] I've just ported All American, Oh Canada!, Viva Mexico!, Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern theme to SM2.4+. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.4 . Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Modern Mozillium was the default theme for Mozilla Suite version M15 and Netscape 6.0.1. It sports a bright chrome-like background with steelblue-like icons. This is one of the shiniest themes out there. All American, Oh Canada and Viva Mexico make up the North American Series all present a patriotic view of each country using their unfurled flags as toolbar background imagery, an animated waving flag for the throbber along with other country-specific symbology. The North American Series themes are available on AMO but are in the sandbox, awaiting review and approval. Feel free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, however, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) graced us with on 8/13/2011 10:41 PM: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I don't use any themes, but using Seamonkey V2.2 under Windows XP I certainly have the ability to conceal or disclose a pane by clicking on the central (dotted, between two triangles) region of a divider. However ... I /thought/ I used to be able to lay out the three panes (I am speaking Mail/News here) in at least two different geometries, but trying to achieve that recently on my wife's modern 16:9 geometry screen, I could no longer find that geometry setting. Does it still exist, and if so, could someone please remind me where to locate it ? ViewLayout should work. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) graced us with on 8/13/2011 11:30 PM: Sailfish wrote: ViewLayout should work. Excellent, thank you. Now one supplementary -- is there any way of either adding to the set of known layouts, or of customising them further ? What I have in mind is a 3-pane design, with mail servers and folders top left, mail headers bottom left, and message body full-height right. REF: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Window_layout_-_Thunderbird#Layout While I haven't tried it myself, the above link looks like it might give you some ideas on how to do it via userChrome.css -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Sailfish wrote: REF: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Window_layout_-_Thunderbird#Layout While I haven't tried it myself, the above link looks like it might give you some ideas on how to do it via userChrome.css Many thanks, Sailfish : much appreciated. ** Phil. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:41:03 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I don't use any themes, but using Seamonkey V2.2 under Windows XP I certainly have the ability to conceal or disclose a pane by clicking on the central (dotted, between two triangles) region of a divider. However ... I /thought/ I used to be able to lay out the three panes (I am speaking Mail/News here) in at least two different geometries, but trying to achieve that recently on my wife's modern 16:9 geometry screen, I could no longer find that geometry setting. Does it still exist, and if so, could someone please remind me where to locate it ? Philip Taylor On a Mac we have two mutually incompatible needs. On one hand we want to look like a native Mac application which means conforming to the Apple HIG. Unfortunately splitter grippies don't exist in the native Mac widget set. On the other hand we also want SeaMonkey to behave like the traditional Mozilla Suite. So the challenge is to come up with some UI for the splitter grippy (that does the collapse/expand toggle) that doesn't look too un-Mac-ish. So it's actually there but you may not realize that that's the grippy where you need to click on. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:30:08 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Sailfish wrote: ViewLayout should work. Excellent, thank you. Now one supplementary -- is there any way of either adding to the set of known layouts, or of customising them further ? What I have in mind is a 3-pane design, with mail servers and folders top left, mail headers bottom left, and message body full-height right. There was a Thunderbird extension called More Layouts for Thunderbird. I tried to convince the author to port it to SeaMonkey but he didn't use SeaMonkey so had no interest. Note this extension needs more than just a simple change to the install.rdf. Some code rewriting is needed. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely. instead of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as read or as spam without reading them. The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this ability killed as a result. you have to grab the divider pull all the way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster. SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad it opens back to original setting. I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox. Is your Thread-Pane | Message-Body-Pane divider-grippy non-functional on Mac, Phillip ? The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I can't remember any dysfunction in the nightly explosive development editions (Well, maybe once a good many years ago, when Neil had to fix them). I can assert that they are still OK in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0a1) Gecko/20110813 SeaMonkey/2.5a1 ID:20110813003053 (Caveat: Trunk nightlies destroy stuff.) Yes has been for ages in the SeaMonkey Standard window. I was sing Orbit 3+ 1 which had the Grippy Function returned But anything Past 2.0.x its been killed. I hate when they make stupid changes just to save 2-3 line of code for something that functioned well. With Processor Speed and Hard Drive space what code they left of would make about as much as one fly sitting on a 3story house. I suspect it was taken out because the people that took it out didn't use it. And they figured if they didn't use it no one uses it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:41:03 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I don't use any themes, but using Seamonkey V2.2 under Windows XP I certainly have the ability to conceal or disclose a pane by clicking on the central (dotted, between two triangles) region of a divider. However ... I /thought/ I used to be able to lay out the three panes (I am speaking Mail/News here) in at least two different geometries, but trying to achieve that recently on my wife's modern 16:9 geometry screen, I could no longer find that geometry setting. Does it still exist, and if so, could someone please remind me where to locate it ? Philip Taylor On a Mac we have two mutually incompatible needs. On one hand we want to look like a native Mac application which means conforming to the Apple HIG. Unfortunately splitter grippies don't exist in the native Mac widget set. On the other hand we also want SeaMonkey to behave like the traditional Mozilla Suite. So the challenge is to come up with some UI for the splitter grippy (that does the collapse/expand toggle) that doesn't look too un-Mac-ish. So it's actually there but you may not realize that that's the grippy where you need to click on. Phil No it doesn't. you can click on the little dot in the center till the cows come home and nothing happens and there there is no dot at all on the left side for the side pane. when there was a functioning grippy you click on it and it would pop all the way down to bottom. click on it and it would pop back up to previous position. I I need to move it all the way down to the bottom I have to drag it the drag it Back up. Same action in FireFox, and Thunderbird as well. Why do you have to go by Apple Guidelines anyway for a web Browser/ email Client.? I prefer Mac over PC. But there is a few things Apple do I think is dumb. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Barry Edwin Gilmour schrieb: The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I can't remember any dysfunction in the nightly explosive development editions (Well, maybe once a good many years ago, when Neil had to fix them). I can assert that they are still OK in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0a1) Gecko/20110813 SeaMonkey/2.5a1 ID:20110813003053 (Caveat: Trunk nightlies destroy stuff.) I did not know about the left-click to minimize/return for years now (good to know), but it does work here: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110806 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3 (beta3) Theme: built-in SM-modern (which I use since a long time now). BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Sailfish sent me the following:: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.2x. Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits. Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number styling errors or previously unstyled elements. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like more subtlety in my aging years... sean sean -- The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. ~ George Washington courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
sean nathan bean wrote: Sailfish sent me the following:: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.2x. Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits. Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number styling errors or previously unstyled elements. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like more subtlety in my aging years... sean sean I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely. instead of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as read or as spam without reading them. The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this ability killed as a result. you have to grab the divider pull all the way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster. SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad it opens back to original setting. I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
PhillipJones wrote: I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely. instead of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as read or as spam without reading them. The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this ability killed as a result. you have to grab the divider pull all the way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster. SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad it opens back to original setting. I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox. Is your Thread-Pane | Message-Body-Pane divider-grippy non-functional on Mac, Phillip ? The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I can't remember any dysfunction in the nightly explosive development editions (Well, maybe once a good many years ago, when Neil had to fix them). I can assert that they are still OK in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0a1) Gecko/20110813 SeaMonkey/2.5a1 ID:20110813003053 (Caveat: Trunk nightlies destroy stuff.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern themed user-experience. I don't use any themes, but using Seamonkey V2.2 under Windows XP I certainly have the ability to conceal or disclose a pane by clicking on the central (dotted, between two triangles) region of a divider. However ... I /thought/ I used to be able to lay out the three panes (I am speaking Mail/News here) in at least two different geometries, but trying to achieve that recently on my wife's modern 16:9 geometry screen, I could no longer find that geometry setting. Does it still exist, and if so, could someone please remind me where to locate it ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what PhillipJones graced us with on 8/13/2011 9:26 PM: sean nathan bean wrote: Sailfish sent me the following:: My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.2x. Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits. Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number styling errors or previously unstyled elements. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like more subtlety in my aging years... sean sean I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely. instead of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as read or as spam without reading them. The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this ability killed as a result. you have to grab the divider pull all the way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster. SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad it opens back to original setting. I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox. Phillip, I've enabled splitters collapse/expand on all of my themes. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011 5:56 PM: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the site using SeaMonkey 2.2x. Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named, Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions. Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits. Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number styling errors or previously unstyled elements. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported both the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. How about SkyPilot, I have been using it since the beginning of time, well maybe not that long. Just shortly after the move from CP/M to MS-DOS, whoops not that long because Al Goor had not invented the internet yet. Seriously I would love to have SkyPilot back. Danny, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? I've just ported both the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ . Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. If you are interested, I've ported both the SM1.x All American and Oh Canada! themes to SM2.2+ and also created a new ¡Viva México! theme to round out the North American Series. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/, and I plan to host them at AMO after a bit more testing. Additionally, I would like to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Modern Mozillium, Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Given enough time, I'll even tackle porting Sky Pilot Classic and Toy Factory to the new toolkit but they really fall into the vaporware category currently. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Enjoy -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
On 7/3/11 9:22 PM, Bret Busby wrote: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. Besides the other recommendations, you might try Classic Firefox Theme for SeaMonkey 0.0.4 at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/addons/79489/classic_firefox_theme_for_seamonkey-0.0.4-sm.xpi. I just installed it, and it looks okay. However, I disabled it in favor of the Default SeaMonkey Theme 2.2, which I like better. I can't stand the SeaMonkey Modern Theme 2.2. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. If you are interested, I've ported both the SM1.x All American and Oh Canada! themes to SM2.2+ and also created a new ¡Viva México! theme to round out the North American Series. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/, and I plan to host them at AMO after a bit more testing. Additionally, I would like to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Modern Mozillium, Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Given enough time, I'll even tackle porting Sky Pilot Classic and Toy Factory to the new toolkit but they really fall into the vaporware category currently. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Enjoy I will be very happy when you have the time to port Sky Pilot over to SM 2.x. I have been using this theme since the early days of the Mozilla Suite. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My bloviated meandering follows what Michael Gordon graced us with on 7/27/2011 10:02 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. If you are interested, I've ported both the SM1.x All American and Oh Canada! themes to SM2.2+ and also created a new ¡Viva México! theme to round out the North American Series. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/, and I plan to host them at AMO after a bit more testing. Additionally, I would like to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Modern Mozillium, Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Given enough time, I'll even tackle porting Sky Pilot Classic and Toy Factory to the new toolkit but they really fall into the vaporware category currently. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Enjoy I will be very happy when you have the time to port Sky Pilot over to SM 2.x. I have been using this theme since the early days of the Mozilla Suite. Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. I still think kang's Sky Pilot is one of the most awesome themes ever created but, as I'm sure you know, that awesomeness comes with a high portation price in terms of time and temperament. -- Sailfish - Netscape Champion Netscape/Mozilla Tips: http://www.ufaq.org/ , http://ilias.ca/ Rare Mozilla Stuff: https://www.projectit.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Michael Gordon graced us with on 7/27/2011 10:02 PM: Sailfish wrote: My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on 7/3/2011 9:22 PM: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. If you are interested, I've ported both the SM1.x All American and Oh Canada! themes to SM2.2+ and also created a new ¡Viva México! theme to round out the North American Series. They are available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/, and I plan to host them at AMO after a bit more testing. Additionally, I would like to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Modern Mozillium, Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits. Given enough time, I'll even tackle porting Sky Pilot Classic and Toy Factory to the new toolkit but they really fall into the vaporware category currently. Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email. Enjoy I will be very happy when you have the time to port Sky Pilot over to SM 2.x. I have been using this theme since the early days of the Mozilla Suite. Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. I still think kang's Sky Pilot is one of the most awesome themes ever created but, as I'm sure you know, that awesomeness comes with a high portation price in terms of time and temperament. You are welcome. I hope you are able to find the time and patience to make a successful port. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Bret Busby schreef: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 I posted this earlier on 20-06-2011 SM 2.1, for classic theme (SM 1.xxx default) diehards Seazilla 0.3 June 16, 2011 ,SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre - 2.0.* I installed Seamonkey 2.1 as an update on top off Seamonkey 2.0.14 Everything went flawlessly, SM 2.1 disabled Classic Default Theme 0.7. So I installed Add-On Compatibility Reporter 0.8.5 June 6, 2011, SeaMonkey 2.0 - 2.4a1 https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api I could now enable Classic Default Theme 0.7 and it worked, bur some things were badly broken. Then I installed Seazilla Classic Theme 0.3, it's a fairly new theme Seazilla 0.3 June 16, 2011 ,SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre - 2.0.* A rebuild of the Mozilla1.x/Seamonkey1.x classic theme. https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/seamonkey/addon/seazilla/?src=api Seazilla works withh SM 2.1 after some tweaks. General verdict. Browser OK Mail/News/Mail/Mail-Composer OK Add-On manager OK, looks the same as the SM 2.1 Default Theme Bookmark manager/organizer, some minor things but usable. Pssword Mangager OK But If you click Window/ Adressbook you get an anomaly. The Delete/Remove Icon is not supported (verwijderen in Dutch) It creates a lot of space, you can drag it from the bar, rightclick and choose customize, drag it down and everthing looks ok. I Used a localized SM 2.1 NL version (Dutch),Windows 2000 Pro, Seazilla looks grey-ish. I don't know how this theme looks on Windows XP/Vista/Win7 Sreenshots, removed wrong icons Adressbook wrong delete-icon (verwijderen = delete) http://i55.tinypic.com/2ztgksh.jpg Drag wrong icon from the bar http://i51.tinypic.com/2py4akg.jpg Adresbook correct after removing icon http://i56.tinypic.com/ff0rc5.jpg The sync button can cause problems too. Wrong Sync Icon in Browser http://i55.tinypic.com/14jbuj7.jpg Sync Icon in mail/news http://i53.tinypic.com/35mp8yh.jpg Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues
Interviewed by CNN on 04/07/2011 01:22, Bret Busby told the world: My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Keep in mind that Seamonkey 2 uses the new toolkit from Firefox, not the old XPFE toolkit from Mozilla Application Suite. So adapting an old Mozilla theme to Seamonkey 2 is a lot more work than it was, say, to make a Mozilla 1.0 theme work in 1.7. So, your old custom themes will stop working. No easy fix for that. What you *can* do is to download a new theme compatible with your version of Seamonkey. KaiRo has recently posted his own custom themes for Seamonkey 2.1. These include the EarlyBlue theme, which is styled like old betas of the Mozilla Application Suite. I think that there are 2.0-compatible versions around, too, but I'm not sure where to get them. Johannes Schellen has Seamonkey 2.0-compatible versions of his Pinball and GrayModern themes at his site, but so far no 2.1-compatible versions. http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ You may find a few others here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/themes/ Most of them are for SM 2.0, but there are at least three (KaiRo's two and one mimicking an old Firefox theme) for 2.1 -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my McCauley Omnicom. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey2 - themes issues
My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the Seamonkey to version 2. It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking theme, that is listed as the default theme. It appears that software developers design software for their own pleasure, and not for the users. The Classic theme will not install. The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to the left of the toolbars. Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x, so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
