Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 10:40 PM PT, Rufus typed: There are some standing really annoying interface and QA type bugs that aren't problems for competitors that are problems for SM. Things like that should be prioritized and fixed first in order to address/enhance UE concerns, *if* the team is actually serious about being competitive. Sometimes I wonder... Yeah. And we need to vote for those issues in its Bugzilla to prioritize them. :( -- ... The press can hold its magnifying glass up to our problems, bringing them into focus, illuminating issues heretofore unseen. Or they can use that magnifying glass to light ants on fire, and then perhaps host a week of shows on the sudden, unexpected, dangerous flaming ant epidemic. If we amplify everything, we hear nothing... --Jon Stewart from Rally to Restore Sanity on 10/30/2010. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/11/2012 10:40 PM PT, Rufus typed: There are some standing really annoying interface and QA type bugs that aren't problems for competitors that are problems for SM. Things like that should be prioritized and fixed first in order to address/enhance UE concerns, *if* the team is actually serious about being competitive. Sometimes I wonder... Yeah. And we need to vote for those issues in its Bugzilla to prioritize them. :( I already did (one man, one vote; right?), for one of the most annoying ones - that SM Mac doesn't directly open hyperlinks from documents or Alias without manually opening SM first...in fact, the team even targeted a fix. Seemed like they had a really good handle on it; something to do with Profile Manager. Well, they are now two maybe three releases past their own target and it's still only partially fixed and there's been no more traffic about it other than updating the bug title. Bug 724293. Leaves me wondering... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 12:35 AM, Ant wrote: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P It is always possible to overload a system, no matter how big it gets. I am sure you aren't ONLY person who uses that many tabs, but the percentage is probably very small. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Would certainly free up some memory!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/10/2012 11:30 PM PT, Rufus typed: ...good grief! I generally have only *one* window and no more than three tabs open in it at a time. And I close a tab out as soon as I'm done with it. I use tabs mainly from Google searches...open link in a new tab, look, close...repeat. If something is that worth saving I Bookmark it. Because of having tabs I never open a second window...unless it's purely by accident. What in the world are you doing?... Web surfing as a crazy Internet addict. :) -- All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions. --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/11/2012 04:35, Ant told the world: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P I have been reading the postings of the MemShrink and Snappy teams and it appears that, albeit uncommon, your case is hardly unique -- there's a good number of extreme tab users out there. The good news is that there are a number of patches in various stages of completion aimed at helping in your sort of use case. The bad news is that no, I don't see your XP machine ever handling it gracefully. 32-bit Windows by default does not give more than 2Gb to any single application unless you run it with the /3Gb switch; and with 2.5 total RAM, probably not even that without a lot of disk swapping. XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have this feeling that the security patches MS released over the last couple years have not received any consideration regarding performance impact; if it works, it's fine for them, even if the patch causes serious performance problems. Case in point: Microsoft Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM for about 20 minutes right after XP boots up... the machine is basically unusable for the first half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is to disable Microsoft Update and go back to Windows Update. I have been upgrading older machines at work to Windows 7 with reasonably good results. As long as they have 1 Gb RAM, a dual-core CPU and good driver support (video is the one that most often is missing), the end result is better with Windows 7 than with XP. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Commodore 64. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.13.2 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/10/2012 08:59 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. That depends on your standards. On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left. On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably overdue to prune this again. On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are note to self for something to transfer to a local database I keep of things to check for updates (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic day-to-day operation. Those numbers are taken from the restore crashed session dialog, which does provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with my time. -- The Wanderer Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any side of it. Every time you let somebody set a limit they start moving it. - LiveJournal user antonia_tiger ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
MCBastos wrote: XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have this feeling that the security patches MS released over the last couple years have not received any consideration regarding performance impact; if it works, it's fine for them, even if the patch causes serious performance problems. Case in point: Microsoft Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM for about 20 minutes right after XP boots up... the machine is basically unusable for the first half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is to disable Microsoft Update and go back to Windows Update. Well, I'm not running WinXP anymore, but there /is/ a reasonable alternative: don't shut down every night. Run the machine continuously, let it update at 3 AM while you're sleeping. Yes, there's a performance hit, but who cares if you're fast asleep until it's over? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 6:46 AM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/11/2012 04:35, Ant told the world: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P I have been reading the postings of the MemShrink and Snappy teams and it appears that, albeit uncommon, your case is hardly unique -- there's a good number of extreme tab users out there. The good news is that there are a number of patches in various stages of completion aimed at helping in your sort of use case. The bad news is that no, I don't see your XP machine ever handling it gracefully. 32-bit Windows by default does not give more than 2Gb to any single application unless you run it with the /3Gb switch; and with 2.5 total RAM, probably not even that without a lot of disk swapping. XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have this feeling that the security patches MS released over the last couple years have not received any consideration regarding performance impact; if it works, it's fine for them, even if the patch causes serious performance problems. Case in point: Microsoft Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM for about 20 minutes right after XP boots up... the machine is basically unusable for the first half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is to disable Microsoft Update and go back to Windows Update. I have been upgrading older machines at work to Windows 7 with reasonably good results. As long as they have 1 Gb RAM, a dual-core CPU and good driver support (video is the one that most often is missing), the end result is better with Windows 7 than with XP. The only thing I recall seeing run after I boot is the MSE engine checking things. Takes a while on my laptop. I guess the system turns it off during the update, and it has to 'catch up'. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 7:13 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/10/2012 08:59 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. That depends on your standards. On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left. On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably overdue to prune this again. On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are note to self for something to transfer to a local database I keep of things to check for updates (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic day-to-day operation. Those numbers are taken from the restore crashed session dialog, which does provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with my time. I can't imagine what you use all those tabs for. Seems like bookmarks would be better, unless you have a slow connection. I seem to recall a mention of a memory listing that shows memory use by tab. You might check about:memory to see what it says. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 7:13 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/10/2012 08:59 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. That depends on your standards. On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left. On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably overdue to prune this again. On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are note to self for something to transfer to a local database I keep of things to check for updates (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic day-to-day operation. Those numbers are taken from the restore crashed session dialog, which does provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with my time. Just checked on FF 17 beta, and about:memory does list RAM use by tab. Your list will be rather LONG as it takes 6 lines per tab. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 7:58 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: XP is getting more and more annoying all the time, anyway. I have this feeling that the security patches MS released over the last couple years have not received any consideration regarding performance impact; if it works, it's fine for them, even if the patch causes serious performance problems. Case in point: Microsoft Update nowadays uses oodles of RAM for about 20 minutes right after XP boots up... the machine is basically unusable for the first half-hour in the morning. The only known cure is to disable Microsoft Update and go back to Windows Update. Well, I'm not running WinXP anymore, but there /is/ a reasonable alternative: don't shut down every night. Run the machine continuously, let it update at 3 AM while you're sleeping. Yes, there's a performance hit, but who cares if you're fast asleep until it's over? MS Update normally only needs to run once a month. Just leave the computer on on Monday night before the second Tuesday of each month, and set Windows Update to update automatically. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 09:42 AM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/11/2012 7:13 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/10/2012 08:59 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. That depends on your standards. On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left. On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably overdue to prune this again. On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are note to self for something to transfer to a local database I keep of things to check for updates (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic day-to-day operation. Those numbers are taken from the restore crashed session dialog, which does provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with my time. I can't imagine what you use all those tabs for. Seems like bookmarks would be better, unless you have a slow connection. Bookmarks don't store tab history, or form data, or current position in the page, or (for dynamically-generated or frequently-updated pages) the exact current page state. They also don't store the position of the tab relative to the other nearby tabs (unless you bookmark those other tabs as part of the same group), which is also important in at least a few cases. As for what I use them for, most of them are indeed backlog, from projects et cetera which are on hold until I have time to get back to them. One subcategory of those I'm in the process of trying to pull out to a separate database, which can store information I can't store in the tab state (and can present it for reference much more easily), but for my workflow most of the others belong exactly where they are - until I get to them, after which they belong nowhere. (Or possibly in a bookmark, at that point.) I seem to recall a mention of a memory listing that shows memory use by tab. You might check about:memory to see what it says. I'm aware of about:memory, and I've looked at it on my laptop, but it turns out that it isn't available on my home desktop; it must have been added in FF4 or later. (I haven't yet gotten BarTab and my how to restore my preferred user interface documentation to the point where I'm willing to trust my main browser to the upgrade, although at this point I think I'm close.) For what it's worth, memory usage isn't really a problem for me, in that the desktop in question has 24GB of RAM; at the moment, with Firefox up and at least an estimated 600 of those tabs unloaded by BarTab, I'm at around 5.5GB of total system memory usage. (According to top, 3GB of that is actually Thunderbird.) -- The Wanderer Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any side of it. Every time you let somebody set a limit they start moving it. - LiveJournal user antonia_tiger ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 6:58 AM PT, The Wanderer typed: Bookmarks don't store tab history, or form data, or current position in the page, or (for dynamically-generated or frequently-updated pages) the exact current page state. They also don't store the position of the tab relative to the other nearby tabs (unless you bookmark those other tabs as part of the same group), which is also important in at least a few cases. Ditto for my usage. :( -- A centipede is an ant made to Canadian/government specs. --unknown /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 8:58 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/11/2012 09:42 AM, Ron Hunter wrote: On 11/11/2012 7:13 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/10/2012 08:59 PM, Ron Hunter wrote: I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. That depends on your standards. On my work desktop, I have somewhere in the range of 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), split among two windows and a variety of tab groups; I've slimmed it down a few times, but there are reasons for all of what's left. On my laptop, I again have in the range from 150 to 200 (or possibly slightly above), with a very different set of tabs, split among six windows. I'm probably overdue to prune this again. On my home desktop, I have somewhere in the range from 600 to 700 (possibly more than that by now), split among six windows. About half of those are note to self for something to transfer to a local database I keep of things to check for updates (with datestamps so I don't bother rechecking too soon), but doing such transfers is tedious, so I keep not getting to it. Even so, I wouldn't expect to ever be able to get below 80-90 tabs on this machine, just as basic day-to-day operation. Those numbers are taken from the restore crashed session dialog, which does provide a whole-browser tab count; I've long wanted a way to get such a count without having to kill the browser, but I haven't found any way to trigger one. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. In my case, it would take hours. I've done bits and pieces of it from time to time, on one machine or another, but there are usually better things to do with my time. I can't imagine what you use all those tabs for. Seems like bookmarks would be better, unless you have a slow connection. Bookmarks don't store tab history, or form data, or current position in the page, or (for dynamically-generated or frequently-updated pages) the exact current page state. They also don't store the position of the tab relative to the other nearby tabs (unless you bookmark those other tabs as part of the same group), which is also important in at least a few cases. As for what I use them for, most of them are indeed backlog, from projects et cetera which are on hold until I have time to get back to them. One subcategory of those I'm in the process of trying to pull out to a separate database, which can store information I can't store in the tab state (and can present it for reference much more easily), but for my workflow most of the others belong exactly where they are - until I get to them, after which they belong nowhere. (Or possibly in a bookmark, at that point.) I seem to recall a mention of a memory listing that shows memory use by tab. You might check about:memory to see what it says. I'm aware of about:memory, and I've looked at it on my laptop, but it turns out that it isn't available on my home desktop; it must have been added in FF4 or later. (I haven't yet gotten BarTab and my how to restore my preferred user interface documentation to the point where I'm willing to trust my main browser to the upgrade, although at this point I think I'm close.) For what it's worth, memory usage isn't really a problem for me, in that the desktop in question has 24GB of RAM; at the moment, with Firefox up and at least an estimated 600 of those tabs unloaded by BarTab, I'm at around 5.5GB of total system memory usage. (According to top, 3GB of that is actually Thunderbird.) I think it was added (at least the part about extensions), rather more recently, as in 17. I am sure it will be in 17 ESR. But with as many tabs as you have, it will take you a while to read the list. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P Just a suggestion: It would be nice if one could put up on the screen a threaded, tree/bush diagram, displaying all the windows and tabs that are open in the current SM session. Then by pointing to a particular node have it provide a menu to allow one: to open the node displaying it, close it, or expunge it from the SM session. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 11:47 AM PT, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj typed: Just a suggestion: It would be nice if one could put up on the screen a threaded, tree/bush diagram, displaying all the windows and tabs that are open in the current SM session. Then by pointing to a particular node have it provide a menu to allow one: to open the node displaying it, close it, or expunge it from the SM session. I like that idea too! :) -- When you need a helpline for breakfast cereals, it's time to start thinking about tearing down civilization and giving the ants a go. --Chris King in a.s.r. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/11/2012 11:47 AM PT, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj typed: Just a suggestion: It would be nice if one could put up on the screen a threaded, tree/bush diagram, displaying all the windows and tabs that are open in the current SM session. Then by pointing to a particular node have it provide a menu to allow one: to open the node displaying it, close it, or expunge it from the SM session. I like that idea too! :) Third! Would be nice as a customized Toolbar item similar to the Search item - but containing # of Tabs open / Current Tab # / Close Tab(s). ...that would rawk! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
If we are voting, I would prefer all outstanding bugs to be fixed before any further non-essential features are added. Philip Taylor Rufus wrote: Third! Would be nice as a customized Toolbar item similar to the Search item - but containing # of Tabs open / Current Tab # / Close Tab(s). ...that would rawk! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
...sounds reasonable to me. -- - Rufus Philip TAYLOR wrote: If we are voting, I would prefer all outstanding bugs to be fixed before any further non-essential features are added. Philip Taylor Rufus wrote: Third! Would be nice as a customized Toolbar item similar to the Search item - but containing # of Tabs open / Current Tab # / Close Tab(s). ...that would rawk! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Philip TAYLOR wrote: If we are voting, I would prefer all outstanding bugs to be fixed before any further non-essential features are added. Since your target will never be reached, the unintended consequence is that no new features will ever be added. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Since your target will never be reached, the unintended consequence is that no new features will ever be added. But the browser will get incrementally better and better; that seems more than a fair trade-off to me. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/11/2012 2:31 PM PT, Rufus typed: ...sounds reasonable to me. Ditto. :) -- To conquer the world, we must be as meticulous and calculating as a colony of ants on the march. --Julius Caesar /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song is/was playing on this computer: Black Moth Super Rainbow - Gangs in the Garden ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Since your target will never be reached, the unintended consequence is that no new features will ever be added. But the browser will get incrementally better and better; that seems more than a fair trade-off to me. Different people have different definitions of better. Mine includes the addition of new features; polishing and polishing the existing program while standing in place and watching our competitors grow isn't enough for me. YMMV. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Philip TAYLOR wrote: If we are voting, I would prefer all outstanding bugs to be fixed before any further non-essential features are added. Well mine was just a wish list, suggestion. Of course I won't object if some developer takes a fancy to it and implements/develops it. If given choice, I also would urge\vote that priority of effort be given to cleaning out the collection of existing bugs/errors in the current SM product. But realizing that SM is a volunteer effort, does that mean that I should keep silent with suggestions, that might distract some developer from working on ,possibly, a bug fix? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Since your target will never be reached, the unintended consequence is that no new features will ever be added. But the browser will get incrementally better and better; that seems more than a fair trade-off to me. Different people have different definitions of better. Mine includes the addition of new features; polishing and polishing the existing program while standing in place and watching our competitors grow isn't enough for me. YMMV. There are some standing really annoying interface and QA type bugs that aren't problems for competitors that are problems for SM. Things like that should be prioritized and fixed first in order to address/enhance UE concerns, *if* the team is actually serious about being competitive. Sometimes I wonder... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( -- /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/10/2012 1:08 PM, Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P -- Only two great groups of animals, men and ants, indulge in highly organized mass warfare. --Charles H. Maskins /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/10/2012 5:59 PM PT, Ron Hunter typed: I just found a way sort of. Close all tabs and it will ask me to close XX tabs. Dang, I have 123 tabs in ONE window!! I thought it was about 50! However, I have to do this for each window and do the basic math. :( I hesitate to ask... how many windows do you keep open? 123 tabs is a LOT. Maybe a few minutes cleaning house would help. Grin. Usually one or two windows. Currently, I have 138 tabs + 17 tabs from two windows. Yeah, that probably explains why sometimes seamonkey.exe hogs up to 2 GB of memory and get very slow/freezes (have to kill it like a few minutes ago). Yes, I am that crazy. I guess I am the only who does this? :P However, my 64-bit W7 machines (8 GB of RAM) at work handle this better so maybe my old, updated Windows XP Pro. SP3 with 2.5 GB of RAM can't handle this extreme setup well? :P ...good grief! I generally have only *one* window and no more than three tabs open in it at a time. And I close a tab out as soon as I'm done with it. I use tabs mainly from Google searches...open link in a new tab, look, close...repeat. If something is that worth saving I Bookmark it. Because of having tabs I never open a second window...unless it's purely by accident. What in the world are you doing?... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Hello. Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( Thank you in advance. :) -- /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Worker Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ /Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( Thanks WaltS. I will check those two out. I tried both in SeaMonkey v2.13.2, but they refused to install. :( -- If I want to be a robber, I rob the king's treasury. If I want to be a hunter, I hunt the rhino. What is the use of robbing beggars and hunting ants? So if you want to love, love God. --Swami Vivekananda /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Show how many tabs/windows are running in web browsers?
Ant wrote: On 11/8/2012 12:02 PM PT, Ant typed: Is there a way to find out how many current tabs/windows are running in these web browsers? Using about:memory doesn't show that information. :( Thanks WaltS. I will check those two out. I tried both in SeaMonkey v2.13.2, but they refused to install. :( I'm curious. What was WaltS's secret answer? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
