Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
NoOp wrote: On 12/05/2009 06:20 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx snip First page shows up correctly but clicking on items (Listing items) other than topic items at bottom don't. Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Follow along... it's already been posted (multiple times) that tvguide.com browser sniffs. Spoof Fx with your favorite of choice (prefbar, general.useragent.extra.firefox, whatever) and try again. Was posted for informational purposes only. I don't use the site. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer Unless someone has reset the ua on them. Check the about:config pref to see if iit is also marked userset. Lee Or Help:About SeaMonkey up on the top line to see what version you are telling the world you are using. Daniel First page shows up correctly but clicking on items (Listing items) other than topic items at bottom don't. Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/05/2009 06:20 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx snip First page shows up correctly but clicking on items (Listing items) other than topic items at bottom don't. Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Follow along... it's already been posted (multiple times) that tvguide.com browser sniffs. Spoof Fx with your favorite of choice (prefbar, general.useragent.extra.firefox, whatever) and try again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On or about 12/5/2009 4:49 PM, NoOp typed the following: On 12/05/2009 06:20 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx snip First page shows up correctly but clicking on items (Listing items) other than topic items at bottom don't. Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Follow along... it's already been posted (multiple times) that tvguide.com browser sniffs. Spoof Fx with your favorite of choice (prefbar, general.useragent.extra.firefox, whatever) and try again. I gave up TV Guide a /long/ time ago. Using TitanTV. Everything works fine there with 1.1.18 and 2.0. -- Ed Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer Unless someone has reset the ua on them. Check the about:config pref to see if iit is also marked userset. Lee Or Help:About SeaMonkey up on the top line to see what version you are telling the world you are using. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How far back was it??? (((was Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0)))
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx This is bug #330094. It was reported to the Mozilla community about 3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0. Less than two weeks later, it was also noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a). About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2. Your jokingSM 1.5a (2.0) was being developed three and a half years ago!!! This must have been back in the SM 1.0 days, or earlier!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How far back was it??? (((was Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0)))
On 12/4/2009 9:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx This is bug #330094. It was reported to the Mozilla community about 3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0. Less than two weeks later, it was also noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a). About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2. Your jokingSM 1.5a (2.0) was being developed three and a half years ago!!! This must have been back in the SM 1.0 days, or earlier!! Daniel No joke. Actually, it's quite sad. Bug #330094 was originally written 10 March 2006 against Camino 1.0. Later on that same date, it was updated to report the same problem with Firefox. Bug #331019 was written on 19 March 2006, reporting the same problem in Firefox 1.5.0.1. This was immediately determined to be a duplicate of bug #330094, which caused the latter's Product to be changed from Camino to Core (i.e., Gecko). On 10 October 2007, it was finally determined that bug #330094 is not a Mozilla problem but is actually a problem within http://online.tvguide.com/listings/. The Product was changed from Core to Tech Evangelism. So this problem was first noted 3-1/2 years ago and was finally found to be a TV Guide problem 2 years ago. I don't use the TV Guide site, so I haven't communicated the problem to them. Has anyone else tried to bring this to the attention of TV Guide? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/1/2009 11:34 PM, William Morrison wrote: I'd like to ask a question about what this discussion is going on about. Is it possible for someone to download a copy of any version of Seamonkey that already has a spoof edited into it, thus causing it to report something other than the actual version it is? No. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/1/2009 7:40 PM, David Wilkinson wrote: I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. I haven't seen the complete user agent string being reported by the Wife's computer. Are you sure it is not spoofing firefox as well? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Tried the tvguide site this morning with my wifes computer again. And the Program Discriptions DO NOT WORK 1.1.14 That's what I expected, thanks so much for confirming it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile schrieb: BeeNeR wrote: Also FAILS here. Windows XP SP3 SM2.0 Works OK with IE Tab. Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0? google = coralietab Site works in SM2 here btw. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On or about 11/30/2009 10:14 PM, Danny Kile typed the following: BeeNeR wrote: On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro Also FAILS here. Windows XP SP3 SM2.0 Works OK with IE Tab. Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0? Do a google search for 'Coral IE Tab 1.69.20091026'. It works on SM2.0 I forgot the exact link. -- Ed It isn't what they say about you, it's what they whisper. - Errol Flynn, American actor (1909-1959) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program discription works great . here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ I've never used UA switcher, but your current UA is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Change that to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Firefox/3.5.5 Add that you your UA Switcher, and it should do the trick. Lee Thank you, Lee. Adding that line to the UA Switcher and spoofing FireFox did the trick without having to run IE Tab. Thank you again! Danny I amso glad to have helped! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program discription works great . here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox. No. If you go to the menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey], you get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers. In one of my profiles, [Help About SeaMonkey] shows Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3 I use this profile only for those financial institutions that incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko. Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1) or Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48 Safari/525.19 or even blank. Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On or about 12/1/2009 5:59 AM, BeeNeR typed the following: On or about 11/30/2009 10:14 PM, Danny Kile typed the following: BeeNeR wrote: On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro Also FAILS here. Windows XP SP3 SM2.0 Works OK with IE Tab. Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0? Do a google search for 'Coral IE Tab 1.69.20091026'. It works on SM2.0 I forgot the exact link. It can be found here: http://coralietab.mozdev.org/installation.html Look at the 'Mirrors' section for 'SeaMonkey 2 users' -- Ed If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free. -P.J. O'Rourke ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program discription works great . here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox. No. If you go to the menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey], you get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers. In one of my profiles, [Help About SeaMonkey] shows Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3 I use this profile only for those financial institutions that incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko. Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1) or Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48 Safari/525.19 or even blank. Hmmm, it seems you are right. Sorry about that. So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area. What do you mean by this? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:21:39 -0800, /Danny Kile/:
Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.
The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx
First, as already found by others the site seems to sniff for
specific user agents. Spoofing as Firefox makes the site work o.k.
in SeaMonkey, too. They seem to sniff for Firefox and then serve
some CSS styling, but if not Firefox they serve total crap CSS rules
obviously targeted at IE only. They better sniff for IE only and
serve the garbage to IE browsers while serving normal content to all
others.
Second, one could see the content in question applying following
user styles to the page:
table { display: table !important; }
tr { display: table-row !important; }
th, td { display: table-cell !important; }
One may use userContent.css or the Stylish extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/2108
--
Stanimir
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/1/2009 3:38 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: Read my other post and you will see my wifes computer Has seamonkey 1.1.14 on it and the Tvguide site loads great ... The program discription works great . here is her ABOUT SEAMONKEY SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 The About SeaMonkey box reports what the browser actually is. The user-agent string is what the browser tells a web site that it is. If the user-agent string names FireFox, then many pages will display as they would in FireFox. No. If you go to the menu bar and select [Help About SeaMonkey], you get the user agent string that SeaMonkey currently sends to Web servers. In one of my profiles, [Help About SeaMonkey] shows Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3 I use this profile only for those financial institutions that incorrectly sniff for Firefox instead of Gecko. Using the PrefBar extension in all of my profiles, I can make [Help About SeaMonkey] show the same Firefox spoof or show Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1) or Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.48 Safari/525.19 or even blank. Hmmm, it seems you are right. Sorry about that. So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. About WHAT ? Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View . like the TV guide website . Did I start a Can of Worms on my original POST ? Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area. What do you mean by this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/1/2009 1:36 PM, David Wilkinson wrote [in part]: I previously wrote [also in part]: Note that there is no about:SeaMonkey for the address area. What do you mean by this? I was concerned that some people might see the discussion of [Help About SeaMonkey] and assume that they can get the same information by entering about:SeaMonkey in the address area. There are a number of about:xxx displays for various values of xxx, one of which is about:config (mentioned earlier in this thread). However, about:SeaMonkey is not one of them. Yet [Help About Plugins] gives the same display as about:plugins. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. About WHAT ? Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View . like the TV guide website . It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. About WHAT ? Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View . like the TV guide website . It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. About WHAT ? Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View . like the TV guide website . It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). I have to be honest, I'm just not believing this. I have Sm 1.1.4 installed on an XP box. I had installed SM 2, and migrated the profile with success. I left the 1.1.14 install on for test purposes. The UA reports 1.1.14, as it should, and the TV Guide site does *not* work unless I spoof the UA as Firefox. I am afraid Bush's credibility is a bit low right now. I really dout that his wife's computer is showing the site correctly, without either spoofing the UA, ofr having IETab installed. Maybe its the latter, but a plain m 1.1.14 on XP will *not* display the site correcty. I hope others will test, and if I am wrong, I will be glad to be proven so. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. I went to TV Guide site works for me. SM 2.0 Mac OSX.4.11 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. I went to TV Guide site works for me. SM 2.0 Mac OSX.4.11 If you go to the program listings, and cick on a show, does it show the details, or a white box? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg This may work better http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg This may work better http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that was never in question. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 12/1/2009 10:17 PM, Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg This may work better http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that was never in question. Lee What does the seamonkey 2.0 about seamonkey Say ? Does it say Firefox or does it say Seamonkey or Mozilla... The problem is that, when Web servers sniff for the user agent (UA) string that identifies the browser, the software doing so fails to evaluate the context. That is, finding Firefox in the UA string is treated as if the browser is Firefox. Thus, my spoof Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3 is treated by the Web server as if I were using Firefox, ignoring both the NOT in front of the Firefox and the SeaMonkey. Only a human looking at the server's raw logs would notice that I'm really using SeaMonkey. I must guess, however, that raw server logs are rarely if ever seen by humans. You know what my UA string says. I know what it says. But the software on the Web server that is sniffing for the UA string doesn't know what the whole string says; it only knows that it found Firefox. You know your browser is SeaMonkey 1.1.18. From what I see of your toolbars, I believe you. But Web servers look at the UA string -- the line just below the very large SeaMonkey 1.1.18 -- and determine you are using Firefox 2.0.0.7. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/1/2009 10:17 PM, Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg This may work better http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that was never in question. Lee What does the seamonkey 2.0 about seamonkey Say ? Does it say Firefox or does it say Seamonkey or Mozilla... The problem is that, when Web servers sniff for the user agent (UA) string that identifies the browser, the software doing so fails to evaluate the context. That is, finding Firefox in the UA string is treated as if the browser is Firefox. Thus, my spoof Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0, NOT Firefox/3.5.3 is treated by the Web server as if I were using Firefox, ignoring both the NOT in front of the Firefox and the SeaMonkey. Only a human looking at the server's raw logs would notice that I'm really using SeaMonkey. I must guess, however, that raw server logs are rarely if ever seen by humans. You know what my UA string says. I know what it says. But the software on the Web server that is sniffing for the UA string doesn't know what the whole string says; it only knows that it found Firefox. You know your browser is SeaMonkey 1.1.18. From what I see of your toolbars, I believe you. But Web servers look at the UA string -- the line just below the very large SeaMonkey 1.1.18 -- and determine you are using Firefox 2.0.0.7. I'd like to ask a question about what this discussion is going on about. Is it possible for someone to download a copy of any version of Seamonkey that already has a spoof edited into it, thus causing it to report something other than the actual version it is? -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case. I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0. I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
BeeNeR wrote: On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro Also FAILS here. Windows XP SP3 SM2.0 Works OK with IE Tab. Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case. I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0. I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. Okay, lets consider why sites sniff for browsers. Their plan is to serve different versions to users with specific browsers. I got it work by spoofing Firefox. You spoofed IE, and it did not work, probably because the version served was for the IE rendering engine. SeaMonkey has the same gecko rendering engine as Firefox. Always try spoofing Firefox first, that is most likely to work with SeaMonkey. By the way, you asked earlier about a version of IE tab that would work with 2.0, yet you state that you hate running IE. Using IE tab in SeaMonkey just converts SM to an IE shell, you might as well be running IE. Not that this is a crime, but just a point to consider. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case. I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0. I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. just went to my wifes computer and it Has seamonkey 1.1.14 Win xp And it Views the Site perfectly . SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer Unless someone has reset the ua on them. Check the about:config pref to see if iit is also marked userset. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case. I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0. I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. just went to my wifes computer and it Has seamonkey 1.1.14 Win xp And it Views the Site perfectly . SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx SeaMonkey does display the site. Note the OP's post, click o one of the shows in the listings at the bottom. It is supposed to give information on the show. Without UA spoofing, it shows a block white box. Nice Red colors ... as stated it works fine . Is that working for you? Also, try your government site on your wife's computer. Yes there are no problem with the Blm site . And by the way All my wife does on her computer is Read and Send email and play Games and chat on http://www.pogo.com. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 11/30/2009 6:35 PM, Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro Yes, but you have already shown us that you spoof Firefox even though you claim not to know what spoofing is. If you did not spoof Firefox in SM 1.1.18 it would not work. And if you did spoof Firefox in SM 2.0 it would work. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx This is bug #330094. It was reported to the Mozilla community about 3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0. Less than two weeks later, it was also noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a). About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2. While the www.tvguide.com site has apparently been upgraded to work with Firefox, bug #330094 remains open since the site still fails to work with other Gecko browsers. The correct fix -- to sniff for Gecko and not for Firefox -- was never implemented. Someone who frequently visits the site (which is not me) should report the problem with a reference to http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and to the bug report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330094. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. Okay, lets consider why sites sniff for browsers. Their plan is to serve different versions to users with specific browsers. I got it work by spoofing Firefox. You spoofed IE, and it did not work, probably because the version served was for the IE rendering engine. SeaMonkey has the same gecko rendering engine as Firefox. Always try spoofing Firefox first, that is most likely to work with SeaMonkey. By the way, you asked earlier about a version of IE tab that would work with 2.0, yet you state that you hate running IE. Using IE tab in SeaMonkey just converts SM to an IE shell, you might as well be running IE. Not that this is a crime, but just a point to consider. Lee I rather run IE in a SM tab, it is more convenient to run. I use User Agent Switcher to switch UA, it does not list one for Firefox. It has an add function put I do not know what to add, can you help me with this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ /snip/ I rather run IE in a SM tab, it is more convenient to run. I use User Agent Switcher to switch UA, it does not list one for Firefox. It has an add function put I do not know what to add, can you help me with this? I'm not saying that is wrong to do, but using IETab for a SeaMonkey tab is basically using IE in a SeaMonkey shell. I've never used UA switcher, but your current UA is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Change that to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Firefox/3.5.5 Add that you your UA Switcher, and it should do the trick. Lee Thank you, Lee. Adding that line to the UA Switcher and spoofing FireFox did the trick without having to run IE Tab. Thank you again! Danny ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
