Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-06 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Daniel wrote:
I'm sure I read Wow64 Windows 7 in your user agent  but cannot even 
find the line in that other message now, so who knows!!


Migrated system. But I waited to the very last day in that August to do 
it. As I feared it was not pain free...


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-05 Thread Daniel

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and 
will cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path 
with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the 
prefs.js records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. 


Well actually it's Win10 on this box, but should not make a difference 
how profiles are managed have not changed in years.


I'm sure I read Wow64 Windows 7 in your user agent  but cannot even 
find the line in that other message now, so who knows!!


Could you please have a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey 
profile by selecting Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, 
on the second screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the 
"Choose Folder" button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one 
suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile 
Wizard" screen has changed to the location you had selected??


I've never bothered. Always did it old-school and just edit the 
profiles.ini


But I did as you suggested and it work okay. Created a pristine profile 
in the directory I selected and updated the profiles.ini


[Profile1]
Name=Junk for demo
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\foobar


Thank you for trying. I'll mark you down as someone who knows what he's 
doing!! ;-)


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-05 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and will 
cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a 
Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js 
records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. 


Well actually it's Win10 on this box, but should not make a difference 
how profiles are managed have not changed in years.


Could you please have a go 
at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second screen, 
give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" button, pick 
a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if 
the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard" screen has changed to the 
location you had selected??


I've never bothered. Always did it old-school and just edit the profiles.ini

But I did as you suggested and it work okay. Created a pristine profile 
in the directory I selected and updated the profiles.ini


[Profile1]
Name=Junk for demo
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\foobar




No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.




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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-04 Thread Daniel

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Daniel,

I didn't check if there is a bug yet. If not it needs to go into 
Bugzilla. But the remaining devs including me are swamped. This might 
take a long time till it gets fixed.


FRG


Bug reported  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1422702

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-04 Thread Daniel

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Daniel,

I didn't check if there is a bug yet. If not it needs to go into 
Bugzilla. But the remaining devs including me are swamped. This might 
take a long time till it gets fixed.


FRG


I understand, Frank-Rainer, but at least it will be there!!

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-04 Thread Daniel

Felix Miata wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-12-03 13:47 (UTC+0100):


I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it
seems to be a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder
your profile location will be overwritten. But if you create the
folder and then change the profile name it works. Was able to
create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it shows in
about:support .



Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been
changed for years I think.

I've used --ProfileManager on initial startup and rejected the
default name and location for at least a decade, always creating a
directory first to contain profiles where I want them, then pointing
to that location and typing in a suitable profile name when the
profile manager opens.

I've not used the profile manager to add an additional a profile in
at least as long. Once profiles.ini exists, it's simple to edit it,
to add a profile, or relocate one, or change the name of one.


Felix, I would appreciate it you could give it a try, even just to set
yourself up a "Test" profile at some different hard disk location. ;-)

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-04 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me 
that my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it 
had originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the 
other location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the 
profile just where it pleased.


You need to select a folder on the drive, not the drive itself. The 
profile is created directly in the specified folder, not in a 
salt.name subfolder. That's what I found yesterday when I tried with 
SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows Vista (sorry... should have mentioned in 
my response that I'd actually tried it on Windows!)


OK, so the root is not allowed, even though the rest of the world thinks 
it's a folder too?


OK, as Daniel requested and as you suggest, I tried a nonroot folder on 
my default HDD (BTW, Daniel, the external drive is also a "physical hard 
drive," not a virtual one). Result: This time SM accepted my selection. 
I also tried the root folder on my default HDD and was ignored as 
before. SM seems to have a root allergy. FWIW.


Thank you, Paul. Maybe it's an intermittent thing, dependant on how you 
have you tongue or some such!!


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me 
that my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it 
had originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the 
other location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the 
profile just where it pleased.


You need to select a folder on the drive, not the drive itself. The 
profile is created directly in the specified folder, not in a salt.name 
subfolder. That's what I found yesterday when I tried with SeaMonkey 
2.49.1 on Windows Vista (sorry... should have mentioned in my response 
that I'd actually tried it on Windows!)


OK, so the root is not allowed, even though the rest of the world thinks 
it's a folder too?


OK, as Daniel requested and as you suggest, I tried a nonroot folder on 
my default HDD (BTW, Daniel, the external drive is also a "physical hard 
drive," not a virtual one). Result: This time SM accepted my selection. 
I also tried the root folder on my default HDD and was ignored as 
before. SM seems to have a root allergy. FWIW.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Felix Miata
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-12-03 13:47 (UTC+0100):

> I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to 
> be 
> a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location 
> will 
> be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the profile name 
> it works. Was able to create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it 
> shows in about:support .

> Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
> years 
> I think.
 I've used --ProfileManager on initial startup and rejected the default name and
location for at least a decade, always creating a directory first to contain
profiles where I want them, then pointing to that location and typing in a
suitable profile name when the profile manager opens.

I've not used the profile manager to add an additional a profile in at least as
long. Once profiles.ini exists, it's simple to edit it, to add a profile, or
relocate one, or change the name of one.
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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Daniel,

I didn't check if there is a bug yet. If not it needs to go into Bugzilla. But 
the remaining devs including me are swamped. This might take a long time till 
it gets fixed.


FRG


Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to 
be a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location 
will be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the 
profile name it works. Was able to create a profile 
D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
years I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


...



Thank you also, Frank-Rainer. that's now three of us that have had problems.

Frank-Rainer, is it worthwhile me going to Bugzilla and reporting this or 
would you and your connections be able to sort it without a Bug Report??


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


You need to select a folder on the drive, not the drive itself. The 
profile is created directly in the specified folder, not in a salt.name 
subfolder. That's what I found yesterday when I tried with SeaMonkey 
2.49.1 on Windows Vista (sorry... should have mentioned in my response 
that I'd actually tried it on Windows!)


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


Great, I'm not going mad!! Paul, you mentioned trying an external drive, 
so could you please try to somewhere else, anywhere else, on your 
physical hard drive??


Ta.

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems 
to be a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile 
location will be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then 
change the profile name it works. Was able to create a profile 
D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for 
years I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and 
will cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path 
with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the 
prefs.js records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go 
at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second 
screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" 
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by 
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard" 
screen has changed to the location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.


Thank you also, Frank-Rainer. that's now three of us that have had problems.

Frank-Rainer, is it worthwhile me going to Bugzilla and reporting this 
or would you and your connections be able to sort it without a Bug Report??


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
I am just doing some fixes for 2.55+ in a vm and there at least it seems to be 
a bit stubborn. If you create and select the folder your profile location will 
be overwritten. But if you create the folder and then change the profile name 
it works. Was able to create a profile D:\profiled\u5kls6wt.UserD1 and it 
shows in about:support .


Don't think it is different in 2.49.1. This code hasn't been changed for years 
I think.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux profile 
problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than the problem 
that I was actually trying to get assistance with  trying to get a 
Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going where, *apparently* , 
SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. 
Things like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems if 
Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux and 
Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it countless 
times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing issues 
is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js records 
paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go at 
giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting Tools->Switch 
Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second screen, give this Profile a 
Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* 
the one suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile 
Wizard" screen has changed to the location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just cancel your 
way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I
see you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have
a go at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second

screen, give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder"
button, pick a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by
SeaMonkey) and see if the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard"
screen has changed to the location you had selected??

No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'm on Win 7 Pro (64-bit) too, using SM 2.49.1, and I did just as you 
said. And just as you would predict, it failed.


I chose an external drive, and when I clicked the "Select Folder" 
button, I was returned to the previous dialog where it informed me that 
my profile would be stored in... exactly the default folder it had 
originally proposed. No matter how many times I "selected" the other 
location, SM ignored my selection and promised to save the profile just 
where it pleased.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 11:59 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Maybe this (thunderbird-related) article can help

"How To Share Mail Between Windows and Linux"

http://web.archive.org/web/20050207141558/http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html#step4 


Thank you!

Bugger!! Bugger!! Bugger!! In testing my problem, I had added a few 
extra profiles to my SeaMonkey  so I thought I'd get rid of a few 
 and managed to delete my main profile ... and, of course, I hadn't 
done a back up in quite a while! (Yes, I can hear you all yelling 
BACK-UP!! BACK-UP!! BACK-UP!!)


I do have several, so just a matter of finding out which is most recent 
... and how recent that is!! Oh Well!!


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

On 3/12/2017 2:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and will 
cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a 
Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js 
records paths for some actions.


Thank you, Jonathan, but that's not the problem I'm interested in. I see 
you are on WOW64 Windows 7, the same as me. Could you please have a go 
at giving yourself a new, test, SeaMonkey profile by selecting 
Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles and then, on the second screen, 
give this Profile a Name then Click on the "Choose Folder" button, pick 
a new location (i.e. *not* the one suggested by SeaMonkey) and see if 
the Location on the "Create Profile Wizard" screen has changed to the 
location you had selected??


No need to actually create the Profile (unless you want one), just 
cancel your way out of the "Create Profile Wizard" screen.


I'd be very appreciative.

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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

On 2/12/2017 11:59 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Maybe this (thunderbird-related) article can help

"How To Share Mail Between Windows and Linux"

http://web.archive.org/web/20050207141558/http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html#step4 


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel

On 3/12/2017 12:46 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Ok but didn't you report previously that the download manager doesn't 
show up when downloading a file? This is exactly what happened to me 
when I copied my Windows profile to Linux. Only after I deleted the last 
download dir pref with the Windows path it worked.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely 
unsupported. Things like last download dir are stored in it and will 
cause problems if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a 
Windows drive.


FRG


The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux 
profile problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than 
the problem that I was actually trying to get assistance with  
trying to get a Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going 
where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to put it!!


Frank-Rainer you could well be right about my download manager 
problem but you guys *must* ;-) have done something or suggested 
something to fix my problem then.


Now I'm wanting to know if anyone else on a Windows 7/10 computer is 
seeing my latest problem!!


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux profile 
problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than the problem 
that I was actually trying to get assistance with  trying to get a 
Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going where, *apparently* , 
SeaMonkey wants to put it!!




Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. 
Things like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems 
if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


Moving or duplicating SeaMonkey|Firefox|Thunderbird to and from Linux 
and Windows (or Mac) is very easy drag and drop affair. I have don it 
countless times.


Sharing a profile dir is an issue regardless of the OS, but pathing 
issues is a real problem with dissimilar OSes because the the prefs.js 
records paths for some actions.



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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Daniel wrote:
I have been trying to set up my Linux SeaMonkey to use the same profile 
files as my Win7 SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on my Win E:\ drive. In doing this, I 
had stuffed up the location, you know, that bit where you select a 
location for the Profile  and SeaMonkey puts the Profile in a folder 
*BELOW* that selected location!! This has resulted in my Windows 
SeaMonkey, when I boot up the Mail & News Screen, listing all the 
abook.mab, booklist.xml, blocklist-addons.json, bookmarkbackups, Cache, 
cache2, cert8.db, etc, etc, something like 50 files and folders showing 
up on-screen in my Win7 SeaMonkey e-mail account screen.


No problem, I thought, its about time I had a new profile and then I 
could just copy over the required files and then, after some time, I 
could delete and remove all the old profiles and their files/folders. Or 
so I thought!!


I started SeaMonkey, went to Tools->Switch Profiles, selected "Manage 
Profile" then "Create Profile" and created a new Profile. Of course, I 
like to install my Profiles where I want, on my E:\, so on the second 
screen, I selected "Choose Folder" and selected where I wanted the 
Profile on the E:\ drive.


When I finished the Profile creation, I noticed the "Create Profile 
Wizard" screen showed that my "user settings, preferences and other 
user-related data" would be stored at 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User.


No problem, I thought, that's just where "they" store the extraneous 
part of the Profile. Then I went looking for my profile and it wasn't 
anywhere near where I had told SeaMonkey to put it! I then tried to 
create a new Profile directly under my E:\  and it didn't show up, 
but still the 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User was showing up on the Create Profile Wizard.


What am I doing wrong?? Or is the "Create Profile Wizard" broken in that 
it will not allow me to put a Profile where I want it?? Could someone 
else try creating a new Profile using the "Create Profile Wizard" on 
Win7 or, possible 10, in SeaMonkey 2.49.1??


The default folder for a new profile is 
"C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(salt).(Profile 
Name)". If you specify a profile folder, the profile is created directly 
in that folder - not in a (salt).(Profile Name) subfolder. It seems that 
you cannot specify the root of a drive as the profile folder; you have 
to specify a subfolder.


You need to specify a folder such as "D:\Default User". The folder can 
be named however you like; it doesn't have to include a salt 
(gobble-de-gook) or the name of the profile. The salt is just a random 
string which gives a slight increase in security against certain types 
of vulnerability. If you want the profile directly to include the salt 
prefix, you need to specify it as part of the name e.g. 
"D:\12345678.Default User" (except that "12345678 is not particularly 
random; you could perhaps use whatever SeaMonkey proposed in the default 
profile folder name). Including the profile name as part of the folder 
name is not essential but helps you to know which folder is for which 
profile without having to look it up.


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Ok but didn't you report previously that the download manager doesn't show up 
when downloading a file? This is exactly what happened to me when I copied my 
Windows profile to Linux. Only after I deleted the last download dir pref with 
the Windows path it worked.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. 
Things like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems if 
Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


FRG


The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a problem 
when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux profile 
problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than the problem that 
I was actually trying to get assistance with  trying to get a Profile were 
*I* wanted it, rather than it going where, *apparently* , SeaMonkey wants to 
put it!!



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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread bdelmee

Maybe this (thunderbird-related) article can help

"How To Share Mail Between Windows and Linux"

http://web.archive.org/web/20050207141558/http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html#step4
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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel

On 2/12/2017 9:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. 
Things like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems 
if Windows finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


FRG


The system has worked well over the last umpteen years. It is only a 
problem when I stuff things up!!


I'm starting to feel that I should not have mentioned the Linux profile 
problem, as both responders have focused on that rather than the problem 
that I was actually trying to get assistance with  trying to get a 
Profile were *I* wanted it, rather than it going where, *apparently* , 
SeaMonkey wants to put it!!


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Sharing a profile between Windows and Linux is completely unsupported. Things 
like last download dir are stored in it and will cause problems if Windows 
finds a Linux path or Linux a path with a Windows drive.


FRG

Daniel wrote:
I have been trying to set up my Linux SeaMonkey to use the same profile files 
as my Win7 SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on my Win E:\ drive. In doing this, I had stuffed 
up the location, you know, that bit where you select a location for the 
Profile  and SeaMonkey puts the Profile in a folder *BELOW* that selected 
location!! This has resulted in my Windows SeaMonkey, when I boot up the Mail 
& News Screen, listing all the abook.mab, booklist.xml, blocklist-addons.json, 
bookmarkbackups, Cache, cache2, cert8.db, etc, etc, something like 50 files 
and folders showing up on-screen in my Win7 SeaMonkey e-mail account screen.


No problem, I thought, its about time I had a new profile and then I could 
just copy over the required files and then, after some time, I could delete 
and remove all the old profiles and their files/folders. Or so I thought!!


I started SeaMonkey, went to Tools->Switch Profiles, selected "Manage Profile" 
then "Create Profile" and created a new Profile. Of course, I like to install 
my Profiles where I want, on my E:\, so on the second screen, I selected 
"Choose Folder" and selected where I wanted the Profile on the E:\ drive.


When I finished the Profile creation, I noticed the "Create Profile Wizard" 
screen showed that my "user settings, preferences and other user-related data" 
would be stored at 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User.


No problem, I thought, that's just where "they" store the extraneous part of 
the Profile. Then I went looking for my profile and it wasn't anywhere near 
where I had told SeaMonkey to put it! I then tried to create a new Profile 
directly under my E:\  and it didn't show up, but still the 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User was showing up on the Create Profile Wizard.


What am I doing wrong?? Or is the "Create Profile Wizard" broken in that it 
will not allow me to put a Profile where I want it?? Could someone else try 
creating a new Profile using the "Create Profile Wizard" on Win7 or, possible 
10, in SeaMonkey 2.49.1??


TIA


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel

On 2/12/2017 6:04 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2017-12-02, Daniel wrote:


I have been trying to set up my Linux SeaMonkey to use the same
profile files as my Win7 SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on my Win E:\ drive. In
doing this, I had stuffed up the location, you know, that bit where
you select a location for the Profile  and SeaMonkey puts the
Profile in a folder *BELOW* that selected location!! This has resulted
in my Windows SeaMonkey, when I boot up the Mail & News Screen,
listing all the abook.mab, booklist.xml, blocklist-addons.json,
bookmarkbackups, Cache, cache2, cert8.db, etc, etc, something like 50
files and folders showing up on-screen in my Win7 SeaMonkey e-mail
account screen.

No problem, I thought, its about time I had a new profile and then I
could just copy over the required files and then, after some time, I
could delete and remove all the old profiles and their
files/folders. Or so I thought!!

I started SeaMonkey, went to Tools->Switch Profiles, selected "Manage
Profile" then "Create Profile" and created a new Profile. Of course, I
like to install my Profiles where I want, on my E:\, so on the second
screen, I selected "Choose Folder" and selected where I wanted the
Profile on the E:\ drive.

When I finished the Profile creation, I noticed the "Create Profile
Wizard" screen showed that my "user settings, preferences and other
user-related data" would be stored at
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default
User.

No problem, I thought, that's just where "they" store the extraneous
part of the Profile. Then I went looking for my profile and it wasn't
anywhere near where I had told SeaMonkey to put it! I then tried to
create a new Profile directly under my E:\  and it didn't show up,
but still the
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default
User was showing up on the Create Profile Wizard.

What am I doing wrong?? Or is the "Create Profile Wizard" broken in
that it will not allow me to put a Profile where I want it?? Could
someone else try creating a new Profile using the "Create Profile
Wizard" on Win7 or, possible 10, in SeaMonkey 2.49.1??

TIA


I don't have a lot of experience with profile directories and the
profile manager, but it is probably worth a try to look at the
profiles.ini file (yours should be at
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\profiles.ini
, I guess).

If Linux can read and write safely to the Windows filesystem, and this
is always mounted, you could consider even creating a symbolic link on
the linux side, that would "place" the windows profile folder in the
directory where the linux seamonkey expects to find the profiles:

 ln -s
 
'/mnt/windows/Users/Daniel/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/(gobble-de-gook.Default
 User'
 $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/windows.default

(All in one line; the single quotes will be needed if the actual path
does have a parenthesis or some space) and then adding windows.default
to profiles.ini on the linux side:

 [ProfileN]
 Name=windows
 IsRelative=1
 Path=windows.default

N is usually a sequential number (entries here are Profile0 and
Profile1). I don't know if it *must* be sequential, but just check what
entries do you have and pick the next "available" number.  The
profiles.ini file on linux should be at
$HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini .

Going back to windows, about putting the profile somewhere else, you can
also set IsRelative=0 and set it to the path under E:\. This would be
the full path to the actual directory/folder containing all the profile
files ("(gobble-de-gook.Default User").

See also http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profiles.ini_file

When doing this close all seamonkey instances and, just to be safe, make
backups of profiles.ini and all your profiles.

Thank you for your response, Nuno. Perhaps I didn't explain myself 
sensibly but I have, for years, shared the same profile between my Win7 
and my assorted Linux versions. As Linux can "see" Windows Drives (but 
Windows cannot "see" Linux mount points natively), I've always (well, 
for a very long time) had my SeaMonkey Profile files on a Windows drive 
and just set-up the Linux SeaMonkey Profile.ini to point directly to the 
Windows Profile files. As I'm either in Windows7 or I'm in Linux, there 
is no conflict


The situation I (tried to) describe above is just looking at creating a 
new Windows7 SeaMonkey on a Windows7 Drive . at the moment!! ;-)


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Re: Where to store my profile??

2017-12-01 Thread nunojsilva
On 2017-12-02, Daniel wrote:

> I have been trying to set up my Linux SeaMonkey to use the same
> profile files as my Win7 SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on my Win E:\ drive. In
> doing this, I had stuffed up the location, you know, that bit where
> you select a location for the Profile  and SeaMonkey puts the
> Profile in a folder *BELOW* that selected location!! This has resulted
> in my Windows SeaMonkey, when I boot up the Mail & News Screen,
> listing all the abook.mab, booklist.xml, blocklist-addons.json,
> bookmarkbackups, Cache, cache2, cert8.db, etc, etc, something like 50
> files and folders showing up on-screen in my Win7 SeaMonkey e-mail
> account screen.
>
> No problem, I thought, its about time I had a new profile and then I
> could just copy over the required files and then, after some time, I
> could delete and remove all the old profiles and their
> files/folders. Or so I thought!!
>
> I started SeaMonkey, went to Tools->Switch Profiles, selected "Manage
> Profile" then "Create Profile" and created a new Profile. Of course, I
> like to install my Profiles where I want, on my E:\, so on the second
> screen, I selected "Choose Folder" and selected where I wanted the
> Profile on the E:\ drive.
>
> When I finished the Profile creation, I noticed the "Create Profile
> Wizard" screen showed that my "user settings, preferences and other
> user-related data" would be stored at
> C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default
> User.
>
> No problem, I thought, that's just where "they" store the extraneous
> part of the Profile. Then I went looking for my profile and it wasn't
> anywhere near where I had told SeaMonkey to put it! I then tried to
> create a new Profile directly under my E:\  and it didn't show up,
> but still the
> C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default
> User was showing up on the Create Profile Wizard.
>
> What am I doing wrong?? Or is the "Create Profile Wizard" broken in
> that it will not allow me to put a Profile where I want it?? Could
> someone else try creating a new Profile using the "Create Profile
> Wizard" on Win7 or, possible 10, in SeaMonkey 2.49.1??
>
> TIA

I don't have a lot of experience with profile directories and the
profile manager, but it is probably worth a try to look at the
profiles.ini file (yours should be at
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\profiles.ini
, I guess).

If Linux can read and write safely to the Windows filesystem, and this
is always mounted, you could consider even creating a symbolic link on
the linux side, that would "place" the windows profile folder in the
directory where the linux seamonkey expects to find the profiles:

ln -s 

'/mnt/windows/Users/Daniel/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/(gobble-de-gook.Default
User'
$HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/windows.default

(All in one line; the single quotes will be needed if the actual path
does have a parenthesis or some space) and then adding windows.default
to profiles.ini on the linux side:

[ProfileN]
Name=windows
IsRelative=1
Path=windows.default

N is usually a sequential number (entries here are Profile0 and
Profile1). I don't know if it *must* be sequential, but just check what
entries do you have and pick the next "available" number.  The
profiles.ini file on linux should be at
$HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini .

Going back to windows, about putting the profile somewhere else, you can
also set IsRelative=0 and set it to the path under E:\. This would be
the full path to the actual directory/folder containing all the profile
files ("(gobble-de-gook.Default User").

See also http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profiles.ini_file

When doing this close all seamonkey instances and, just to be safe, make
backups of profiles.ini and all your profiles.

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Where to store my profile??

2017-12-01 Thread Daniel
I have been trying to set up my Linux SeaMonkey to use the same profile 
files as my Win7 SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on my Win E:\ drive. In doing this, I 
had stuffed up the location, you know, that bit where you select a 
location for the Profile  and SeaMonkey puts the Profile in a folder 
*BELOW* that selected location!! This has resulted in my Windows 
SeaMonkey, when I boot up the Mail & News Screen, listing all the 
abook.mab, booklist.xml, blocklist-addons.json, bookmarkbackups, Cache, 
cache2, cert8.db, etc, etc, something like 50 files and folders showing 
up on-screen in my Win7 SeaMonkey e-mail account screen.


No problem, I thought, its about time I had a new profile and then I 
could just copy over the required files and then, after some time, I 
could delete and remove all the old profiles and their files/folders. Or 
so I thought!!


I started SeaMonkey, went to Tools->Switch Profiles, selected "Manage 
Profile" then "Create Profile" and created a new Profile. Of course, I 
like to install my Profiles where I want, on my E:\, so on the second 
screen, I selected "Choose Folder" and selected where I wanted the 
Profile on the E:\ drive.


When I finished the Profile creation, I noticed the "Create Profile 
Wizard" screen showed that my "user settings, preferences and other 
user-related data" would be stored at 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User.


No problem, I thought, that's just where "they" store the extraneous 
part of the Profile. Then I went looking for my profile and it wasn't 
anywhere near where I had told SeaMonkey to put it! I then tried to 
create a new Profile directly under my E:\  and it didn't show up, 
but still the 
C:\Users\Daniel\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\(gobble-de-gook.Default 
User was showing up on the Create Profile Wizard.


What am I doing wrong?? Or is the "Create Profile Wizard" broken in that 
it will not allow me to put a Profile where I want it?? Could someone 
else try creating a new Profile using the "Create Profile Wizard" on 
Win7 or, possible 10, in SeaMonkey 2.49.1??


TIA

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