Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

You can't do a thing about it in Windows 10. Spying is build so deeply 
into it it can not be removed. Using the privacy options will not fully 
disable it. And it gets worse with every release.
You can hack it but with the Anniversary edition I gave up and just 
wiped the vm. When my other older TH2 vm autoupdates one day I will wipe 
it too.


You would need 10 Enterprise to turn it off.

FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 18-11-16 18:14:
Submitting telemetry data is disabled by default in SeaMonkey. 
Telemetry itself is so woven into the gecko engine that you will see 
fragments of it even when disabled. But no data is transmitted.


What I meant with crashing the browser is the Windows telemetry which 
came standard with Windows 10 and is now rolled out by Microsoft for 7 
and 8.1 users. It can not be disabled but you can uninstall it. 
Microsoft makes it harder every month to get rid if it. For Windows 7 
they pushed it with a normal security update KB3197868. You need to 
deinstall this one and install KB3197867 to get rid of it. If you have 
a windows\systen32\diagtrack.dll your are infected by it. Slows down 
the PC especially during logon and transmits sensitive data to MS.
Under my windows10 pro 64bits I have this 
"windows\systen32\diagtrack.dl" So what to do ?


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Re: Yahoo mail in SM 2.40

[Gérard]

On 11/19/2016 10:36 AM, Gérard wrote:

On 10/20/2016 10:45 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

Hi!!! Good morning !!!
Every time I'm trying to get messages in SM Mail I get that pop-up window saying
: "The RETR command did not succeed. Error retrieving a message. Mail server
pop.mail.yahoo.com responded: problem retrieving message."
What is that?
Thanks to share if it happened to you guys!!!
Best Regards
@lex


NO


Screenshot from 2016-11-19 10:35:11.png




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Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
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Re: just upped the ante and installed 2.50a1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

It should crash quite often and autocomplete doesn't work. If you run into 
trouble 
check if its a known problem. 

The known problems for 2.49 are tracked in:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1313304

As of now 2.50a1 still suffers from the same problems.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:04:22 -0700, sean wrote:

>>Same extra speed as found in 2.4a1 ... still some niggling trouble 
>>displaying graphics in popular social media sites... but that's sorta 
>>fine with me at the moment... ;~)
>>
>>sean
>>-- 
>>The Purpose of life is to be happy.
>>~ Dalai Lama


 Regards
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Re: Allow Popups From A Site?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

If you use 2.40 the Data Manager is pretty much broken. Should work for 
http sites but anything https is either shown incorrectly or not edited 
right. I fixed it for the never released 2.45. If you use 2.46 please 
document what is wrong and file a bug.


FRG

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
On the other hand, there seems to be a problem with the Cookie Manager 
obeying orders:


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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Yes but the Windows update catalog is different. If you want to actually 
get a kb from it you need to use an MS browser. And KB3197867 for 
Windows 7 or KB3197873 for 8.1 are only available there.


FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:


You do NOT need to use IE or Edge to view Knowledge Base atricles.

Just Google the KB number and you can get to it.




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Re: this is PAZ, she has two beatiful daughters

[Gérard]

On 11/19/2016 04:06 PM, Gérard wrote:

On 11/19/2016 03:58 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 10:24:

On 11/19/2016 08:19 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 07:58:

On 11/19/2016 12:06 AM, stan pierce wrote:

I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I click on Get
Msg
I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login information.
Then
it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail address it works normally. I
also am able to access my E-mail through xfinity.com.

Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.


what version seamonkey do you use ?


I think that's written in the headers of his post:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40





You cannot do this ?




I don't want, too much work

sincerely Yours


DSCN8975.JPG




good music from eric clapton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_YxRKN6zQ=PLABGggHhsbEeaRtdzqnxYoEINsJE_4GF4

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
  -- To "The Impossible Dream", from Man of La Mancha
[gérard@gershwin] $
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Re: this is PAZ, she has two beatiful daughters

[Gérard]

paul mccartney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_YxRKN6zQ=PLABGggHhsbEeaRtdzqnxYoEINsJE_4GF4


On 11/19/2016 04:12 PM, Gérard wrote:

On 11/19/2016 04:06 PM, Gérard wrote:

On 11/19/2016 03:58 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 10:24:

On 11/19/2016 08:19 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 07:58:

On 11/19/2016 12:06 AM, stan pierce wrote:

I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I click on Get
Msg
I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login information.
Then
it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail address it works
normally. I
also am able to access my E-mail through xfinity.com.

Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.


what version seamonkey do you use ?


I think that's written in the headers of his post:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40





You cannot do this ?




I don't want, too much work

sincerely Yours


DSCN8975.JPG




good music from eric clapton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_YxRKN6zQ=PLABGggHhsbEeaRtdzqnxYoEINsJE_4GF4




--
Gérard Vinkesteijn-Rudersdorff
http://ciudadpatricia.com
https://facebook.com/gerardjan.vinkesteijn.7

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
  -- To "The Impossible Dream", from Man of La Mancha
[gérard@gershwin] $
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Re: Can't access E-mail

[Ray_Net]

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 16:06:

On 11/19/2016 03:58 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 10:24:

On 11/19/2016 08:19 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 07:58:

On 11/19/2016 12:06 AM, stan pierce wrote:
I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I 
click on Get

Msg
I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login 
information.

Then
it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail address it works 
normally. I

also am able to access my E-mail through xfinity.com.

Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.


what version seamonkey do you use ?


I think that's written in the headers of his post:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101

 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40





You cannot do this ?




I don't want, too much work

sincerely Yours

Too much work to find this in 2 seconds ? (and please stop your too long 
and stupid signatureà


From: stan pierce 
Subject: Can't access E-mail
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:06:42 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40

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Re: Can't access E-mail

[Gérard]

On 11/19/2016 04:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 16:06:

On 11/19/2016 03:58 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 10:24:

On 11/19/2016 08:19 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 07:58:

On 11/19/2016 12:06 AM, stan pierce wrote:

I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I click on Get
Msg
I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login information.
Then
it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail address it works
normally. I
also am able to access my E-mail through xfinity.com.

Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.


what version seamonkey do you use ?


I think that's written in the headers of his post:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40





You cannot do this ?




I don't want, too much work

sincerely Yours


Too much work to find this in 2 seconds ? (and please stop your too long and
stupid signatureà

From: stan pierce 
Subject: Can't access E-mail
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:06:42 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40



oké

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
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Build identifier: 20160923081035

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Re: 2.46 build 20161029224245 not usable

[Mason83]

On 19/11/2016 22:47, Felix Miata wrote:

> TCW composed on 2016-11-19 14:10 (UTC-0600):
> 
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 02:07:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> 
>>> No scroll buttons is why:
>>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsMissingRV46SM.png
> 
>>> 2.46 build 20161005013219 is OK:
>>> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsOKrv46SM20161005013219.png
> 
> Forgot to mention that missing buttons is a GTK3 build result, unless 
> something has changed lately. Buttons are still there in all GTK2 builds I've 
> tried.
> 
>> Try with the 2.47 build from here: http://tinyurl.com/j2ju4s7
> 
> That's a link to Win32. I'm running Linux. I tried a newer akalla 2.46 but it 
> was a GTK3. Where I got the GTK2 20161005013219 from and how I found out 
> about it I have no recollection.

I think you got it from
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.46-candidates/build6/

  Subject: Re: Is >2.40 for Linux available anywhere built with GTK2?
  From: Frank-Rainer Grahl 
  Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:59:10 +0200
  Message-ID: 

Regards.

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Re: 2.46 build 20161029224245 not usable

[Felix Miata]

TCW composed on 2016-11-19 14:10 (UTC-0600):


On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 02:07:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:



No scroll buttons is why:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsMissingRV46SM.png



2.46 build 20161005013219 is OK:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsOKrv46SM20161005013219.png


Forgot to mention that missing buttons is a GTK3 build result, unless 
something has changed lately. Buttons are still there in all GTK2 builds I've 
tried.



Try with the 2.47 build from here: http://tinyurl.com/j2ju4s7


That's a link to Win32. I'm running Linux. I tried a newer akalla 2.46 but it 
was a GTK3. Where I got the GTK2 20161005013219 from and how I found out 
about it I have no recollection. 20161119153553 is 2.47, presumably GTK3, 
since I can't find a gtk2 buildconfig flag, and is missing scroll buttons:

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/seamonkey-2.47.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: 2.46 build 20161029224245 not usable

[EE]

Felix Miata wrote:

EE composed on 2016-11-18 11:37 (UTC-0700):


Felix Miata wrote:



No scroll buttons is why:



http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsMissingRV46SM.png



2.46 build 20161005013219 is OK:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsOKrv46SM20161005013219.png



So Linux still has scroll buttons?


Linux is a kernel, not "an operating system". There are many Linux-based
distributions (distros), but the Linux kernel has nothing to do with
what anything looks like in them. Look and feel and available widgets
depend on a multitude of desktop environments which themselves have
various themes available.

SeaMonkey Modern has a unique look and feel that ignores the theme of
the environment other than the UI fonts. Loss of scroll buttons in SM's
Modern theme represents a significant change, very much unwanted here.

To see why, acquire arthritis and/or carpal tunnel and/or other
inhibition on movement with your mousing hand, then try to position
window content vertically with any sort of precision. Clicking scrollers
is the only way that works. Even that is worse than it used to be, when
it was possible to have the scrolling increment equal to one line
instead of 2.5 or 3.


I have had the beginnings of carpal tunnel syndrome.  It was from having 
my wrist bent while using a pointing device.  After I realized what the 
problem was, I made a point of keeping my wrist straight, and the 
symptoms gradually disappeared.


Since Mac OS no longer has scroll buttons, I have learned to compensate 
by selecting a line in a list or a text file and using the arrows to 
move the selection up or down.  When it gets to the top or bottom, the 
whole thing scrolls by one line with one press of the arrow key.


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Re: Can't access E-mail

[WaltS48]

On 11/19/2016 10:18 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 16:06:

On 11/19/2016 03:58 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 10:24:

On 11/19/2016 08:19 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Gérard wrote on 19-11-16 07:58:

On 11/19/2016 12:06 AM, stan pierce wrote:
I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I 
click on Get

Msg
I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login 
information.

Then
it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail address it 
works normally. I

also am able to access my E-mail through xfinity.com.

Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.


what version seamonkey do you use ?


I think that's written in the headers of his post:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101

 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40





You cannot do this ?




I don't want, too much work

sincerely Yours

Too much work to find this in 2 seconds ? (and please stop your too 
long and stupid signatureà


From: stan pierce 
Subject: Can't access E-mail
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 18:06:42 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40



Ray, join the masses that have Gerard filtered. 


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How switch between Lightning calendars?

[Mark B]

Windows 10
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0 SeaMonkey/2.47

Came with Lightning
Installed 'Provider for Google Calendar'

Successfully connected two Google calendars, one personal, another with 
UC Berkeley, using https://www.google.com/calendar/dav/usernam/events 
for each calendar. Both calendars are available to select when I create 
an event.


Problem is I can't figure out how to switch between the two calendars 
for viewing in Events and tasks/Calendar view.


Any ideas?
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Re: GMail Question.... and Help..

[JAS]

SamuelS wrote:

Hello all,

I have two (2) gmail accounts loaded on my desktop configured as well
only one (1) of these accounts configured on my laptop.

The issue I Am having is, on my desktop the account is only sporadically
dl'ing messages, i.e. five out of 35 I receive in a day. I also have
gone back to the web based account and marked as 'not read' and still
the desk top is not able to recognize the message as new.

Is there something I need to do to correct this? These are set as pop3
accounts retrievals.

TIA - bo1953

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Maybe this will help some:
If you want to access Gmail using multiple pop-readers, you will need to
use Gmail's "recent mode".
Instructions --> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/47948

The trade-off is that if the pop-reader uses "recent mode", it will not
be able to access mail more than 30 days old.
	Once it is read on one computer  it can not be read on another even if 
it is saved on the GMail account and if if you mark it as unread--the 
only way is ser it to "recent mode". You can with Yahoo or Hotmail but 
not GMail.


JAS

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Re: 2.46 build 20161029224245 not usable

[Gérard]

On 11/19/2016 10:47 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

TCW composed on 2016-11-19 14:10 (UTC-0600):


On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 02:07:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:



No scroll buttons is why:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsMissingRV46SM.png



2.46 build 20161005013219 is OK:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/scrollButtonsOKrv46SM20161005013219.png


Forgot to mention that missing buttons is a GTK3 build result, unless something
has changed lately. Buttons are still there in all GTK2 builds I've tried.


Try with the 2.47 build from here: http://tinyurl.com/j2ju4s7


That's a link to Win32. I'm running Linux. I tried a newer akalla 2.46 but it
was a GTK3. Where I got the GTK2 20161005013219 from and how I found out about
it I have no recollection. 20161119153553 is 2.47, presumably GTK3, since I
can't find a gtk2 buildconfig flag, and is missing scroll buttons:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/seamonkey-2.47.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2



/usr/bin/ccache /usr/bin/gcc -std=gnu99 	4.8.5 	-Wall -Wempty-body 
-Wignored-qualifiers -Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits 
-Wunreachable-code -Wno-error=maybe-uninitialized 
-Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=array-bounds -fno-strict-aliasing 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-math-errno -pthread -pipe


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Ed Mullen]

On 11/19/2016 at 3:26 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off:

Yes but the Windows update catalog is different. If you want to actually
get a kb from it you need to use an MS browser. And KB3197867 for
Windows 7 or KB3197873 for 8.1 are only available there.

FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:


You do NOT need to use IE or Edge to view Knowledge Base atricles.

Just Google the KB number and you can get to it.






Nope, you're still wrong.

Using Firefox:

1.  Google the KB number
2.  Click first link
3.  Scroll down to How to obtain and install ...
4.  Click first link to go to the update catalog
5.  Click the download buttons

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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-11-17 2:16 AM, pthf1n...@gmail.com wrote:


My impression is that the microsoft November update rollup makes seamonkey 2.46 
for windows 7 x32 crash.


Does the Mozilla Crash Reporter come up? If not, it could be because 
you're not using an official release. If it does,

1. Open SeaMonkey.
2. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information. That should open a new tab 
with info about your SeaMonkey setup.
3. Under "Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days" click on your latest crash 
report. That should take you to a web page starting with 
"https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/;
4. Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash 
report.
We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better 
idea of what is causing the problem.


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