Re: Which Drive for Profile??
Daniel wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: cciaffone wrote: cciaffone wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: /snip/ Hey, Lee, if cciaffone has already let SM 2.0 put the profile where it wanted, then manually moved it to where cciaffone wants it (somewhere on the D:), shouldn't cciaffone just be able to use the Profile Manager to create a new Profile and point it to where, on the D:, cciaffone moved the profile?? I'm sure I've done this with SM 1.1.x, but will it work in the new set-up?? Daniel It should. I've never done that, but if it worked in 1.1.18 it should work in 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features. What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by default when you only have one. Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no notification. Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever. I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal. Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only one profile, and may not even know what a profile is. For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile, and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application. That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong profile. If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile Manager at startup. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: SM 2.0 allows multiple profiles - they've just hidden the Profile Manager without telling anyone...like with a few other features. What makes you say that? As another reply to your post says, it still pops up when you have more than one profile. It has never popped up by default when you only have one. Initially I only had one Profile...and using the usual method of holding down the option key at startup no longer brings up the Profile Manager...it activates some sort of safe mode. Nice feature, no notification. Like the other poster, I had to search to find a way to add a second Profile - because not all of my 1.1.18 Profiles were transfered during the upgrade...the way to do that wasn't obvious based on previous behavior. Hidden, moved, revised...whatever. I agree that some notice might have been nice, but it is actually an improvement. If you have one profile, you can still invoke Profile Manager via ToolsSwitch Profile, or using Terminal. That beats Firefox, where Profile Manager can only be invoked via Terminal. And you now have an easy way to invoke Safe Mode, which used to require Terminal. Yes the migration wizard is geared for the average user, who has only one profile, and may not even know what a profile is. For me it worked fine. The two other profiles I had were a test profile, and my Netscape 7.2 profile, which still runs fine in that application. That works well for me, since I now won't open NS or SM in the wrong profile. If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile Manager at startup. Lee Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager: /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM from Terminal? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: /snip/ Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager: /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM from Terminal? Lee I used to keep the standalone PM app from NS hanging around and just use it...but I doubt that would work these days either. I didn't think that worked since OS9. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/15/2009 7:11 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: /snip/ Fudge, the following Terminal command used to open Profile Manager: /Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -profilemanager It does not seem to work anymore. Anybody have an idea of how to open PM from Terminal? Lee From Windows XP, the -profileManager parameter still works with SeaMonkey 2.0. Note that the p is lower-case and the M is upper-case. This is on Mac OSX 10.6. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: /snip/ If you have multiple profiles, you can still set it to open Profile Manager at startup. Lee It does now, now that I have more than one. But I can't find any option for doing that - SM 2.0 just does it since I now have more than one...if I can do it by changing about:config that a bit outside of being an average user, IMO. Once Profile Manager is open, uncheck the box for Don't ask at atartup. Profile Manager will then open whenever you click the Dock icon. Check it, and SM will open in the last profile used. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/15/2009 8:33 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/15/2009 7:11 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Rufus wrote: /snip/ From Windows XP, the -profileManager parameter still works with SeaMonkey 2.0. Note that the p is lower-case and the M is upper-case. This is on Mac OSX 10.6. Lee Command Line Options at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options indicates the same command-line option works for Mac OSX as for PC WindowsXP. My whole point here is that it doesn't. It used to in 1.1.18, but not in 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee Now that screen shots is abandoned where do I send screenshot. send me your email address and I'll show where its not needed Phillip, you have a web site. Why not upload your screenshot to that space, and then link to it? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee Now that screen shots is abandoned where do I send screenshot. send me your email address and I'll show where its not needed Phillip, you have a web site. Why not upload your screenshot to that space, and then link to it? Lee Okay: http://www.phillipmjones.net/NoTabs.png BTW: I've converted most of my html pages to XHTML (XML) 1.0.i Transitional and as far as I can tell those that have been converted do not have any errors. checked through DreamWeaver 8 (yes can't afford the price of update to CS 4, for now) and I've used the code error check built into iCab I am not say everything is perfect but I am working on it. What is this screenshot supposed to show? I see a Mail/News window with no tabs open. How does it relate to the problem of not wanting tabs in Mail/News? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee Once place its not needed is in mail and news. if don't show tabs if one window is open is not ticked (in Tabbed browsing) a Tab shows up in mail or new I have a screen shot to document it. The implementation does not seem to be there yet, but when it is working correctly, I would certainly like the ability to messages in tabs in Mail/News. For example, viewing a post, then a reply to it in a tab, particularly when the original is snipped drastically. Then again, I can't imagine functioning without tabs in the browser either. I think the advice is the same in either case, just don't use them. My question was, when is a tab opening that you don't want to open? I can open a message in a new tab by middle clicking it. I can open in a new window, (which I never do) by double clicking it, just as 1.1.18 always behaved. Just because the application has a new feature, which I think many will value, doesn't mean that you have to use it if it doesn't work for you. Lee Different Strokes for Different Folks. I can't imagine using Tabs. The concept is as foreign to me as walking around on the moon. And as useless as it is to me in the browser, its absolute nonsense in mail and news. I have enough trouble concentrating on one thing at the time, having to deal with all the tabs I just not as hip as you young folks. At 60 am getting close to being over the hill. I guess so. At 56 I am so much more alert! ;) Well,in Preferences, I have everything checked to open in tabs instead of windows. That works fine, I never get a new window. Are you saying the reverse is not true? If so, under what circmstances are you getting a tab instead of a new window? Unless we know how its happening, we can't advise as how to avoid it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee Now that screen shots is abandoned where do I send screenshot. send me your email address and I'll show where its not needed Phillip, you have a web site. Why not upload your screenshot to that space, and then link to it? Lee Okay: http://www.phillipmjones.net/NoTabs.png BTW: I've converted most of my html pages to XHTML (XML) 1.0.i Transitional and as far as I can tell those that have been converted do not have any errors. checked through DreamWeaver 8 (yes can't afford the price of update to CS 4, for now) and I've used the code error check built into iCab I am not say everything is perfect but I am working on it. What is this screenshot supposed to show? I see a Mail/News window with no tabs open. How does it relate to the problem of not wanting tabs in Mail/News? Lee I see a Tab Bar above the message , So why is Tabs available in MAIL ? and for What Reason. Yes there is a tab bar, but only one tab is open. From here, if I choose to hide the tab bar when only one tab is open, Mail/News honors that, so if tabs are not being used, it should not display. See other messages for possible uses of tabs in Mail/News. Actually, this has been a much asked for feature, and has great possibilities. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.8 look on SM 2.0
S. Beaulieu wrote: Claude Duvergier wrote: I think he wants the opposite : SeaMonkey Default Theme SeaMonkey 2.0 is now natively using SeaMonkey Modern Not on my system. It automatically picked the default theme (which would be expected) and I had to revert to Modern to get it back... Maybe this behaviour changes according to what OS one is using? S. Yes it does, it is the Default after all. ;) It seems to be the default on Windows and Linux, as well as OS X. The default theme is geared to the OS, and looks rather different depending on the OS, but it is the default. Modern Theme is available. You might check Saifish's site for some others: http://www.projectit.com/ From communicating with Pat, Simple Green and Cold Fusion are not going to be ported to SeaMonkey. They are based on browser only versions of Netscape, and cannot be ported easily to the suite. However, there are several other options, Sky Pilot, and Modern Mozillium as a couple of examples. I have become very fond of the Venerable Modern theme. I also hove a fondness for KaiRo's Star Trek theme, though I admit it is a bit of an acquired taste. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? I haven't tested much, but you could try these settings: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091115.png (16 KB) Hartmut Same settings I have Here . Just maybe it is a Windows 7 thing? I never saw any Tabs since Netscape 1.1 until Mozilla 2.0. And Yes I still have the 1.44 Floppy that contained 1.1 setup. Netscape had tabbed browsing starting with 6.0, and continued to the end with 9. Mozilla Suite had tabbed browsing from the beginning. 1.0 had it, as dd every other version released, There was never a Mozilla 2.0, so I am not sure where you are coming from on that one. If you are talking about Firefox 2.0. well Firefox has also had tabbed browsing since its inception as Phoenix. The simplest answer is just don't use them. Maybe you could post an example of when a tab opens when you don't want it to, so we can advise you as to how to avoid it. Lee Now that screen shots is abandoned where do I send screenshot. send me your email address and I'll show where its not needed Phillip, you have a web site. Why not upload your screenshot to that space, and then link to it? Lee Okay: http://www.phillipmjones.net/NoTabs.png BTW: I've converted most of my html pages to XHTML (XML) 1.0.i Transitional and as far as I can tell those that have been converted do not have any errors. checked through DreamWeaver 8 (yes can't afford the price of update to CS 4, for now) and I've used the code error check built into iCab I am not say everything is perfect but I am working on it. What is this screenshot supposed to show? I see a Mail/News window with no tabs open. How does it relate to the problem of not wanting tabs in Mail/News? Lee Didn't you see the tab bar above the Subject?? Sure I did. I also saw that there was only one tab open. From here if I select to hide the tab bar when only one tab is open, Mail/News honors that pref as well as the browser, so I only see the tab bar if I actually have more then one tab open. SeaMonkeyPreferencesBrowserTabbed Browsing Check the appropriate box. If that's not working for oyu, we will have to look further. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Leonidas Jones wrote: What is this screenshot supposed to show? I see a Mail/News window with no tabs open. How does it relate to the problem of not wanting tabs in Mail/News? I've Drawn an arrow to point out the tab. I don't read here every day or every posting and i'm too lazy to reread the thread. Seems, you don't like the tabs in MailNews. Well, setting browser.tabs.autoHide to true may be what you want. Or not. ;) Hartmut There is a ui pref for it, as I stated in another mesage in htis thread, no eed to use about:config. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: /snip/ Lee I see a Tab Bar above the message , So why is Tabs available in MAIL ? and for What Reason. Yes there is a tab bar, but only one tab is open. From here, if I choose to hide the tab bar when only one tab is open, Mail/News honors that, so if tabs are not being used, it should not display. See other messages for possible uses of tabs in Mail/News. Actually, this has been a much asked for feature, and has great possibilities. Lee Here have all these request come from?? Of Course I've not posted her for nearly two years with a few minor exception until SM2 Final came out. I see no valid reason of tabs in email and news. I've pondered the idea and it just seem useless, I read and respond to one email /News post at a time. I just don't see the value. I find if I try to do too many things at one time, I tend to make more mistakes than usual. Then just don't use them. You are very inconsistent Phillip. You rail endlessly about the Forms Manager. I never had much use for it, but it certainly didn't bother me that it was there, I just didn't use it. Tsbbed browsing has hit Mail/News. The more I work with it, the more use I see for it. I think it is a positive development. You don't like it, fine, hide the tab bar and just don't use them. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
Lou wrote: George Carden wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/15/2009 8:24 AM, Bush wrote: /snip/ He's probably talking about the new tabs within the e-mail reader. I don't care for them either. Can anyone point out to me the advantage of tabs in an e-mail reader? And...the setting hide tab when only one is open does work. That's my solution. -George I can't live without tabs in my browser. And I have started to really like the tabs on the Mail application too! Much better than having a bunch of different windows laying around. I quite agree, a tabless browser would be pretty much useless to me at this point. I see the same advantage in Mail/News. But, it is so easy to hide the tab bar and just not use it, that I can't see why this has become anything even like an issue. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.8 look on SM 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Claude Duvergier wrote: /snip/ I wish Pat would respond to my question in the projectit forum about the conflict with SkyPilot and QuoteColors extension I've emailed and put a post on there forum at least a week ago if not more. They act like as if Sailfish is on vacation or quit fooling with it. Or its been abandoned. I even have setup to email me when a response given. if SkyPilot is used for each | there is there is an equal number of . The author of QuoteColors has tried it on a Mac and determined it because of the SkyPilot theme. And I have verified it using the modern theme. I haven't heard from him in a while either. From what I understand, he has been very occupied with other aspects of his life, but is not abandoning his projects. Obviously no one is making money from SeaMonkey themes, so we need to be understanding. :) Actually, I think it was over a year ago that I asked about the idea of porting Simply Green and Simply Blue to the suite, and the answer was no. Being at base browser only themes, extending them to work in all the components of the suite is a far from trivial matter. Sky Pilot is a different matter, I'm sure he will get around to it when he is able to. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Command line
Mark Hansen wrote: On 11/17/2009 9:36 AM, William Morrison wrote: Lou wrote: krazy650 wrote: /snip/ Yes that worked, I knew that had worked in Netscape and had tried it with 1.1.18 with no luck but it works great for 2.0. I should have tried before I ask, Duh. Thanks for the help. Uhhh, it works just fine for SeaMonkey 1.1.X here. As far as I can remember, it has always worked. It has! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since SM v2 is out, is v1.1.18 the last version for v1?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 17/11/2009 17:12, John Doue told the world: Richard wrote: /snip/ I have seen two explanations regarding the skipping of version 5: one coming from marketing and the other from the development process. The marketing explanation was that they just jumped one version in order to seem more advanced. The development process is a bit more involved. Apparently, the idea at first was to develop two new versions of Netscape in parallel: V5 would be based on the old Netscape code, while V6 would be based on the new Mozilla Project code. V5 was eventually dropped entirely. Which is true? Probably a bit of both; people would talk about Netscape 5 and Netscape 6 internally, and when NS5 was cancelled, Marketing saw no reason to lower the version number of the new Netscape. Okay, my understanding was that Netscape released the Communicator code to Open Source, hoping to develop a new version with help from the community. However, the old code had become so convoluted that only Netscape engineers could make much sense of it, leading to the founding of the Mozilla project and Gecko, on which Netscape 6 and later version was sourced. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.8 look on SM 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Claude Duvergier wrote: /snip/ Actually, I think it was over a year ago that I asked about the idea of porting Simply Green and Simply Blue to the suite, and the answer was no. Being at base browser only themes, extending them to work in all the components of the suite is a far from trivial matter. Sky Pilot is a different matter, I'm sure he will get around to it when he is able to. Lee I hope so I miss using It. Tried the new walnut. its not ready for prime time there are a lot of Icons missing. ans some of the menus are funny looking. It does have grippies though. Interesting that you mention Walnut. I used to use it regulary with Firefox, though it was Phoenix/Firebird then. I remember one update to the program that broke the theme. I spent an afternoon going through the jar file and got it working again, and came away with a new appreciation for themers. Its not that easy. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I want No Tabs in seamonkey 2.0
intrudere wrote: On 15 nov, 13:24, Bushe...@elmie.uk wrote: I do not want any tabs in seamonkey 2.0 . How do I get rid of the TABS. I have unchecked every thing that pertains to Tans in Preferences . Do I have to Go back to ver 1.1.18 to Eliminate Tabs ? try Multizilla addons Multizilla does not run on SeaMonkey 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Walnut theme
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 8/11/2009 16:15, JAS told the world: I used a theme, Walnut by Alfred Kayser years ago and wonder if it could be updated for use with SM 2.0. I really liked it and was easy on my eyes. Most of the themes except the default seem to be to bold or to dark for my preference. I am really enjoying SM 2 and have little or no trouble with it. Right now there are not very many themes compatible with Seamonkey 2. Addons.mozill.org lists just five: - Three by Alfred Kayser (Walnut, LittleMonkey and Nautipolis) - Two by Robert Kaiser (EarlyBlue and LCARStrek) And... I just found out that there is another one: Johannes Schellen has updated his Pinball for Seamonkey 2, and promises to update his Grey Modern soon. But his themes aren't available on AMO, only at his site: http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ I almost forgot Early Blue, I remember it fondly, and will have to have another look. Sailfish has quite a number at his site: http://www.projectit.com/ I really like the Venerable Modern. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to install version 2.0 so that it does NOT interfere with Version 1.1.18
OldCroc wrote: The Subject line says it all, except I would like to add that this is important to me, as I do not want what is on my Version either Destroyed or imported into Version 2.0, except by manually being done by me. There are some errors in formatting in certain folders that I do not want carried over, plus I have too many things I just don't want to lose! It is never a good idea to state your question in the subject line only. The better procedure is to write a descriptive subject line, then state your question in full in the body of the message. Just install it. SM 2.0 installs to a different location then SM 1.1.18. Installing SM2 does not overwrite SM 1.1.18. The profile migration wizard does not remove your 1.1.18 profile. It copies the data to a different location. Form that point you have two different profiles, one for 2.0 and one for 1.1.18. If you prefer not to have the wizard migrate your data, simply shoose to import nothing. A new blank profile will be created for 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey 2.0 available for MS Windows 7 ?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Subject: says it all. :) I did read here that SM 2.0 will supposedly work on Win 7 as a 32bit application. But I am asking specifically, about any version built for 64 bits on a cpu like the Intel core i7 920. Because that's what I'm hoping to upgrade to. As a secondary question, How about any 64 bit Linux distributions? I'm running the regular 32 bit version on Snow leopard and Vista 64, working fine on both. You can try here, though I have not tried it: http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/SeaMonkey:Download Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send Link and Word Wrap in SM2
art wrote: On 11/20/09 10:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 11/20/2009 6:37 AM, art wrote: /snip/ A further investigation indicates that the / may not be the only character acting as a word break. The following Mapquest link via a File/Send Link command formats it as follows with a 72 character wrap length: http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Danversstate=MAaddress=1+Andover+Stzipcode=01923-1412country=USlatitude=42.549802longitude=-70.954239geocode=ADDRESS In this case, the ampersand () is being sensed as a word break. In viewing your message, the example link did indeed wrap in my message pane. However, the link was not broken. I clicked on it and the Mapquest map of Andover St. came right up. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to install version 2.0 so that it does NOT interfere with Version 1.1.18
RGrannus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: OldCroc wrote: The Subject line says it all, except I would like to add that this is important to me, as I do not want what is on my Version either Destroyed or imported into Version 2.0, except by manually being done by me. There are some errors in formatting in certain folders that I do not want carried over, plus I have too many things I just don't want to lose! It is never a good idea to state your question in the subject line only. The better procedure is to write a descriptive subject line, then state your question in full in the body of the message. Just install it. Sorry if this seems elementary, but specifically, how do I install 2.0 without interfering with 1.1.18 or anything else? Right now, 1.1.18 is in the folder C:Program files\Mozilla.org\Sea Monkey. Do I just install 2.0 in another folder Program files\Sea Monkey? That is exactly where it installs by default. It does not overwrite 1.1.18. Tony's point about desktop shortcuts is well taken. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send Link and Word Wrap in SM2
art wrote: On 11/20/09 12:29 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: art wrote: On 11/20/09 10:50 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 11/20/2009 6:37 AM, art wrote: /snip/ A further investigation indicates that the / may not be the only character acting as a word break. The following Mapquest link via a File/Send Link command formats it as follows with a 72 character wrap length: http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Danversstate=MAaddress=1+Andover+Stzipcode=01923-1412country=USlatitude=42.549802longitude=-70.954239geocode=ADDRESS In this case, the ampersand () is being sensed as a word break. In viewing your message, the example link did indeed wrap in my message pane. However, the link was not broken. I clicked on it and the Mapquest map of Andover St. came right up. Lee, the consensus is that the wrapping is confined to the mail window/pane display during compose. The link is sent unwrapped and will appear that way in the copy in the Sent mail folder (see Hartmut Figge's posting in this thread). So it looks like this phenomena is just the way SM2 performs wrapping display during message compose. My original concern with the wrapping was that some mail clients don't handle wrapped links too gracefully :-). The display is wrapping here in both the Message Pane, and when I open it on new window. It is geared to the widow size. If I increase the window to nearly full screen on a 24, it does not wrap, so clearly its not a hard wrap. The link does work, though as you point out in something other then SeaMonkey or TB, the bets are off. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Bush wrote: Att uverse Informed me tonight that Due to Compatibility issues , They No longer Support Seamonkey Mail configured to port 995 ( ssl) but they Say SSL port 995 will work with outlook . Seamonkey users must use port 110 ( No security). Which doesnot make any sense to me . This is True With this computer With 2.0 installed Same with my wife's omputer with ver 1.1.18 Same with my Daughters computer , Ver 1.1.17 None of the above can use SSL Anyone else running into this problem? I am in the Flint, Mi area . I have an ATT WorldNet account (same company, different product) configured on port 995 as it has been for years, and it is unaffected. I can send and receive mail normally, no complaints. SM 1.1.16. FWIW. I've got the ATT Worldnet iservers setup on SM 2.0. no problems noted. If port 995 is going to work on Outlook, its hard to imagine that it will not work in another mail client, such as Seamonkey or Thunderbird. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Importing multible identites in SM 2.X.
Nairda wrote: Hay gang. Nice work with SM 2.0. So how many versions of SM 2.X will it be before we can import multiple identities with out having to do the extra ones manually? If you planning on waiting, it will be a long wait. I don't think it will ever be available. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot import passwords, etc. when installing 2.0
Serge Popper wrote: I've downloaded 2.0 and attempted to install it twice. Both times the same thing happened. When 2.0 starts up the first time it prompts me to import the items from 1.18 I tell it to go ahead and both times it just froze. Will someone please tell me how to fix this problem? Thanks, Serge When I have installed 2.0, the import tool worked in all cases. However, I have a very complex mail/news profile, so the wizard appeared to stall when importing the mail. It took some minutes, but it did complete successfully. How long are you waiting before aborting? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot import passwords, etc. when installing 2.0
Serge Popper wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Serge Popper wrote: /snip/ Fifteen minutes on the first attempt and over 30 minutes on the second attempt. As a matter of fact, when I clicked on the screen, after thirty minutes, a screen came up which said not responding. Think I should wait longer? Thanks No. I would think 30 minutes should do. I suppose you could try limiting the data to be migrted to that which you really need to be transferred, but I suppose the next answer will be manual transfer of the data. I hope someone else has a better answer. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mail problem
Norvin wrote: Using SM 1.1.18 and XP home and for the past few days I have been getting the following message when trying get my mail: could not connect to server pop.att.yahoo.com the connection was refused. This will happen for a short period of time and hour or so later it will start working for whatever reason. It has been off and on for a few days and I am not sure where to even start looking for a problem or who to call. I have checked my yahoo home using the internet side of SM and I can get my mail there. Any suggestions or directions that I may try. Thanks This has been a problem, but, unfortunately, only those with that ISP can give specifics. I hae ATT Worldnet iservers set up, and they are working without issues. So you have SSL enabled on the account? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot import passwords, etc. when installing 2.0
Serge Popper wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Serge Popper wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Serge Popper wrote: /snip/ Fifteen minutes on the first attempt and over 30 minutes on the second attempt. As a matter of fact, when I clicked on the screen, after thirty minutes, a screen came up which said not responding. Think I should wait longer? Thanks No. I would think 30 minutes should do. I suppose you could try limiting the data to be migrted to that which you really need to be transferred, but I suppose the next answer will be manual transfer of the data. I hope someone else has a better answer. Lee Thanks Lee. I tried again, before you responded, and it worked this time. Took exactly 26 minutes and now it is all there. Appreciate your input. Serge I suppose the saying patience is a virtue really applies here! I'm so glad its working for you. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Copy Function Not Working
John Galt wrote: Windows XP SP3 Firefox 3.6 Beta 3 1. I can copy from a web page in Firefox 3.6 Beta 3 and paste it anywhere including into the Sea Monkey Composer. 2. I cannot copy anything from a Sea Monkey 2.0 web page anywhere. The information never gets posted to the Clipboard. I even tried saving a web page as a HTML and Text file. I cannot copy from either of those files after I open them in Sea Monkey. 3. However I was able to take the page I saved in Sea Monkey to my desktop and then open it in Firefox. I could then copy that information into the Sea Monkey composer from Firefox. 3. I disabled all of the Extensions and Plugins but to no avail. 4. I understand that SM 2.0 and Firefox 3.5 and 3.6 use the same engine. 5. So if I am able to copy from Firefox 3.6 Beta 3 (I have never had a problem coping anything from a Firefox page going back to version 2x.) I certainly should be able to copy from Sea Monkey. 6. I did a standard installation of Sea Monkey 7. There is some problem with SM 2.0 copy function because if Firefox 3.6 Beta 3 copy function works fine it should work fine in Sea Monkey 2.0 especially with all of the Extensions and Plugins disabled. This problem has been pretty much isolated to the MacAfee Site Advisor. If you disable it, it should solve the problem. Check this link for more information: http://community.mcafee.com/thread/18746?decorator=printdisplayFullThread=true Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RoboForm adapter will not install in Seamonkey 2.0
Serge Popper wrote: When attempting to install the RoboForm adapter, which worked fine in 1.18, the following message was displayed - Incompatible Extension. AI RoboForm Toolbar for Seamonkey will not be installed because it does not provide secure up dadates. I went into EDITPREFERENCESADVANCEDSOFTWARE INSTALLATIONMANAGE SOFTWARE NSTALLATION AND UPDATESALLOWED SITES There I inserted Roboform.com and made it an allowed site. I attempted to install the Adapter again and again, the same message came up as is listed above. I went back into Software installations and RoboForm was no longer there. I went through the same procedure, re-inserted RoboForm.com, tried again and got the same denial message. I tried once more but the Software Installations wouldn't accept roboform.com at all this time. How do I get around this? Thanks, Serge Popper Can you give a direct link to the extension you are trying to install? I'll try to install it, but I'm not finding it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RoboForm adapter will not install in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Serge Popper wrote: When attempting to install the RoboForm adapter, which worked fine in 1.18, the following message was displayed - Incompatible Extension. AI RoboForm Toolbar for Seamonkey will not be installed because it does not provide secure up dadates. I went into EDITPREFERENCESADVANCEDSOFTWARE INSTALLATIONMANAGE SOFTWARE NSTALLATION AND UPDATESALLOWED SITES There I inserted Roboform.com and made it an allowed site. I attempted to install the Adapter again and again, the same message came up as is listed above. I went back into Software installations and RoboForm was no longer there. I went through the same procedure, re-inserted RoboForm.com, tried again and got the same denial message. I tried once more but the Software Installations wouldn't accept roboform.com at all this time. How do I get around this? Thanks, Serge Popper Can you give a direct link to the extension you are trying to install? I'll try to install it, but I'm not finding it. Lee Never mind, I couldn't find it because its Windows only. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mail problem
Norvin wrote: Norvin wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Norvin wrote: /snip/ So you have SSL enabled on the account? Lee Yes, SSL is enabled Now its working again, for how long? Well, lets hope forever. If not I suspect its on ATTYahoo's end. Post back if the problem recurs. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Importing multible identites in SM 2.X.
Nairda wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Nairda wrote: Nairda wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Nairda wrote: Hay gang. Nice work with SM 2.0. So how many versions of SM 2.X will it be before we can import multiple identities with out having to do the extra ones manually? If you planning on waiting, it will be a long wait. I don't think it will ever be available. Lee Thanks for your reply Lee. In that case I think I will wait till MozBackup 1.4.10 comes out of Beta. When ever that will be. (: Mozbackup 1.4.9 claims to work with SeaMonkey 1.0a - 2.0. Has anyone tried it with SM 2.0 yet? ~N OK, well I tried it, and MB 1.4.9 only finds SM2 and SM2 profiles after SM2 has been installed. SM2 doesn't even seem to import your old settings from the one single profile that it does let you import. It took me ages to get things just the way I wanted them, and it looks like one update blows them all away. SM2 may be better, faster, and easier for some, but until the profile migration is fixed (which as Lee says maybe never), I guess I'm sticking with 1.1.18 for the foreseeable future. All the best to everyone here. ~N Moz Backup is Windows only, so I have no direct knowledge of it. However, your description seems consistent with how it should work. Remember, it is backup tool, its not designed for profile migration. You can invoke the migration wizard manually, to migrate other profiles: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manual_migration Lee Yes I did look at that once or twice, but it all seemed rather convoluted. And it still begs to question, why don't settings seem to stick? Like clicking a link in all my old profiles opened a new tab, not a whole new window. Or maybe that was part of what I used MultiZilla for. Which of course would have to be reinstalled and re-setup from scratch I guess. http://multizilla.mozdev.org/features/index.html I will have another go at the migration when I get more time. Thanks for all your help Lee. ~N Sad to say, Multizilla is not compatible with SM 2.0. It is a hobby extension, so there is no saying when or if it will ever be ported over. As far as settings, most of mine did seem to carry over, but it is a totally different program. They can be reset easily enough in Preferences. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: click on next unread page doesn't necessarily do so
Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: When reading emails (I have multiple sub folders in my email Boxes) and news groups when I click on the*next Button (next unread message) it goes to to next folder and in fact a out line shows around topic but is no highlighted an no message shows up. IN SM1.x click next would actually switch you to the next unread message in next folder (if no more in Folder you are in) the message would be highlighted and you could actually read the text. Is this a Bug, or new feature?? Works for me. try to validate in safe-mode. If it occurs too consider filing a bug. regards Martin How is it you go to safe mode on a Mac? Never Mind there is no safe Mode for Mac without going into Phillip, with SM 2.0, simply hold down the Option key while clicking your Dock icon. This will open in Safe mode, works also for FF 3.5 and TB 3.0. For SM 1.1.18, there is a Terminal command that will open Safe Mode. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Att/Seamonkey/ssl
Bush wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Bush: Is anyone else seeing Blank post from NoOp ? hope we get a few answers to see who is Cracking up.. u or Me ? Try Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Clear Cache, then select another posting and then go back to the one without body. Does this help? Hartmut I already Cleared my Cache. But only some NoOp post from him are Blank.. No one else's post are Blank.. in this Group or in other groups. If Harmut's suggestion does not help, try closing SeaMonkey and reopening. Can you view the message now? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anti-Virus Suites Compatibility
Samuel S wrote: Hello all, I Am trying to figure out which anti-virus suites work well with SM. I Am currently using AVG, which settings are all geared towards IE and I cannot figure out how to change that. Then it came to mind to find out here, who uses what and a consensus is on the better suite. I was using Kaspersky, which was fine, I wanted to find if something else out there is just as good. TIA Bo1953 I'm not a regular Windows user, but I do use ClamWin on my Windows machines. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML validator for SM 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: Steve B. wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Why not use the W3C validator athttp://validator.w3.org/? The SeaMonkey accessory (plug-in?? is much more convenient since it gives me validation of any page it opens. Steve Don't have this for Mac OSX See my recent post in this thread, Web developer Toolbar does this easily, and is available for Macs. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New Mail account does not appear in window on left
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: /snip/ I am about to drop my old Dial-Up ISP and this new one I am trying to insert is a Wireless Server at 256kbps (12 to 14x faster than my dialup). I'm moving into the modern era out here in the farm country! Our local Indian Reservation runs it ! Coeur d’ Alene Tribe http://www.cdatribe-nsn.gov/ BTW - I am using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 BTW - I am not of Indian descentjust a plain old German goose stepper. DoctorBill … Only the dumbest of sheep vote for their butcher Bill, If you have downloaded any mail there will be notihing in Local FOlders. The Global Inbox stores all mail in Local Folders, without regard to the account, ala Outlook Express. Without sitting down at your machine, I can't be sure, but what you describe sounds exactly like an account set to use Global Inbox. There would be an entry in Account asttings, but nothing in the Folderpane. Lets at least rule that out: EditMail Newsgroup Account Settings(account in question) Click Server Sttings for your new account, then click the Advanced button. (Hoping 1.1.x had the same dialog as 2.0, I think it did.) There should be a series of radio buttons. If the one for Global Inbox is selected, change it to Inbox for this server's account. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FlashBlock GUI options not showing up in Mozilla SeaMonkey v2.0?
Ant wrote: Hello. I just installed the latest stable FlashBlock extension (v1.3.14) from http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html into my clean and new SeaMonkey (SM) v2.0 (not upgrade) in my updated Windows XP Pro. SP3. I noticed GUI options are missing in my SM's toolbar (no F icon) and in SM's Preferences. FlashBlock does work when I visit Web sites with Flash areas. I tried a new profile and with only this extension, but have the same problem. Is anyone else having the same problem or just me? Thank you in advance. :) Right click on the toolbar to which you wish to add the FlashBlock preferences button. Choose Customize, and drag the Flashblock icon to the desired location on the toolbar. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Didn't news.mozilla.org used to have a secured port?
Ant wrote: Hello! IIRC, it was port 563 SSL. Or is that no longer there for news.mozilla.org? Thank you in advance. :) I think you are thinking of the old support location secnews.netscape.com That server is still there, with its groups, by the way, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Slow newsgroups access in SM2 and launching Web browser with tabs earlier...
Ant wrote: Hello again. 1. Is it me or is SM v2's newsgroup/usenet slow like to news.mozilla.org server? v1.1.18 was pretty fast. 2. Is there a way to have SM2 ask me if I want to restore or not restore my tabbed session after exiting/restarting SM's Web browser? Sometimes I don't care for the saved tabs I had earlier. I could do this with v1.x's SessionSaver extension. Thank you in advance. :) I'm not sure how it works on Windows, but on a Mac, when I close the program, it ofers to save the session. It I just close the browser, but leave the program open, it doesn't. I just checked on XP, Save and Quit is an option ther as well. Check the Preferences Dialog, under BrwoserTabbed Browsing, and ensure that the box for Warn me when closing a window with multiple tabs is checked. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Didn't news.mozilla.org used to have a secured port?
Ant wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: IIRC, it was port 563 SSL. Or is that no longer there for news.mozilla.org? Thank you in advance. :) I think you are thinking of the old support location secnews.netscape.com That server is still there, with its groups, by the way, Ah that was it. How come Mozilla.org doesn't use SSL when Netscape does? Well, there were quite a few users back in secnews days, who needed to have their hands held through the subscription process. I suppose the decision was made to allow for freer access. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Rufus wrote: JAS wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I am using Windows and XP PRO and SM2 and have browsed around the site with no problem. JAS Didn't work for me using SM 2.0 on a Mac...I tried turning JavaScript off, and it still didn't work. I have default cookies and JavaScript on, don't know what to tell you as I am illiterate of Macs but I wish I had on along with my PC. What does the site do for you? JAS It gives me this error - Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CDbl' /Frameworks\Classes\Browser.cls, line 134 Which is why I also tried it with JavaScript off - I find that sometimes one can get around browser sniffers by not allowing Java to run, but not in this case. My earlier reply never came through. As Daved E. Ross pointed out, its faulty browser sniffing. I spoofed as IE 6 on Win XP, and got right in with SM 2.0 on Mac Snow Leopard. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v2 extension replacements
Mike C wrote: Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:11:15 -0800, Ant wrote: Also, ColorfulTabs: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1368 Might as well add IE Tab to that. Which is why I won't upgrade yet on most of my machines. -sw Might as well add tabbrowser extension and Extension Mgr. That's why I went back to SM 1.1.18 Mike C I really don't understand a need for the Extension Manager extension, when the Addons Manager manages extensions and themes so well. Back in Mozilla 1.0 days, I started using Tabbed Browser Extensions, and it made a great difference. However, it just got way too extensive, and was a huge problem on every new version. I do miss the functions of Tab Mix Plus though. The only really nice feature was to be able to set search results to always open in a new tab. I was able to do that with Monkey Menu in 1.1.18, and I do miss that. Other then that, SM 2/0 is handling tabs very well with built in functions. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: donotcall.gov
Bush wrote: Cannot view Donotcall.gov because of the following . And there are other sites that give me the same error What is causing this Seamonkey 2.0 or Win 7 pro _ donotcall.gov uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted. (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) Comes up with no problem here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 email password problem
Martin Freitag wrote: desertgal schrieb: Sqwertz wrote: On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:27:15 -0800, desertgal wrote: Seamonkey 2 doesn't ask for a password for email. I can't find a place to put the password when I set up the account the password box doesn't come up. Also, there is no Mail folder in the profile. I'm running SM2 on a Win7 laptop, trying to get pop mail from gmail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. It will ask you the first time it logs in. Check the boxes to remember the account name and password. -sw I've tried to log in, it just comes up says connection refused. It never asks for the password when I tell it to get mail. Just a guess: Tools = Password Manager Have a look for mailbox://.. and delete the unwanted entries. regards Martin As another guess, take a look at the server settings in account settings. It sounds as though you are trying to contact a secure server without the security option enabled, or vice versa. EditMail Newsgroup Account Settings(accountinquestion)Server Settings Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 email password problem
desertgal wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: desertgal schrieb: Sqwertz wrote: On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:27:15 -0800, desertgal wrote: /snip/ As another guess, take a look at the server settings in account settings. It sounds as though you are trying to contact a secure server without the security option enabled, or vice versa. EditMail Newsgroup Account Settings(accountinquestion)Server Settings Lee There is nothing in password manager for the account. The server settings are have secure connection checked set the way gmail says to set them. I think the problem is in Seamonkey somewhere since it never asks for a password. Okay, the way SeaMonkey Mail works is that you enter your username when you create the account, and you will be prompted for the password when you connect to the server. Since you have been unable to connect to the server, you have never been prompted to enter a password, so of course there is no entry. The problem has to be with your server settings. I have four gmail accounts set up in SM, and all work fine. Somehow yours is not configured correctly, so the connection is never made. Are you trying to set this up as an imap or POP account? Is this a straight gmail address, or is a cobranded domain name? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 email password problem
desertgal wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: desertgal wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: desertgal schrieb: Sqwertz wrote: On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:27:15 -0800, desertgal wrote: /snip/ As another guess, take a look at the server settings in account settings. It sounds as though you are trying to contact a secure server without the security option enabled, or vice versa. EditMail Newsgroup Account Settings(accountinquestion)Server Settings Lee There is nothing in password manager for the account. The server settings are have secure connection checked set the way gmail says to set them. I think the problem is in Seamonkey somewhere since it never asks for a password. Okay, the way SeaMonkey Mail works is that you enter your username when you create the account, and you will be prompted for the password when you connect to the server. Since you have been unable to connect to the server, you have never been prompted to enter a password, so of course there is no entry. The problem has to be with your server settings. I have four gmail accounts set up in SM, and all work fine. Somehow yours is not configured correctly, so the connection is never made. Are you trying to set this up as an imap or POP account? Is this a straight gmail address, or is a cobranded domain name? Lee I'm trying to set up a POP account. It's just a regular gmail address. It's set up in Outlook Express on the PC but I'm trying to use SM on the laptop since it uses Win7. I set it up using the instructions they have for TB as much as I could. Well, mine are IMAP, so the server settings will not be the same, but for what its worth, here we are: Server Type: IMAP Mail Server (of course yours should be POP mail server) Server Name: imap.gmail.com (yours should be pop.gmail.com) Username: (whatever goes before @gmail.com, not the whole address) Security Settings Connection Security: SSL/TLS Use secure authentication: *unchecked* The dialog looks a little different in SM 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...
Ant wrote: On 11/28/2009 1:17 AM PT, Daniel typed: Ant wrote: Hi! Does outbox always go in Local Folders? I use various e-mail accounts and servers. I'd like to have it each account use their own outbox that I send later. They all ended up in Local Folder's outbox. There are no outbox settings I see in preferences and accounts to change this. I didn't have this issue in v1.1.18. Thank you in advance. :) Sorry, Ant, where do you get outbox from??? Sent Mail should get posted to your mail accounts Sent folder. If your asking about posts to NG's, that is set in the Copies Folders screen of the news account on Edit|MailNewsgroup Account Settings. Daniel, screen shots would help you: http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7241/screenshotx.gif ... Using Send Later for e-mails go to Local Folders area. I want it to go to my EarthLink area. There is a place in account settings to set a location for sent, drafts, archives and templates, but nothing for send later. In about config, there is: mail.default_sendlater_uri I suppose you could modify that path, but even if you were successful, that would send send later messages from all accounts to that location, which, I suspect, would be worse then what is there now. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 email password problem
Leonidas Jones wrote: Edward wrote: desertgal wrote: I'm trying to set up a POP account. It's just a regular gmail address. It's set up in Outlook Express on the PC but I'm trying to use SM on the laptop since it uses Win7. I set it up using the instructions they have for TB as much as I could. /snip/ See if anything here helps: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86401 Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v2 extension replacements
John Boyle wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Mike C wrote: Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:11:15 -0800, Ant wrote: /snip/ To whom it may concern: I am wondering whatever happened to the calendar that was supposed to be either an extension or an add-in to SM2? :-) The next version of Lightning should be compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0. Indeed, I have a nightly build installed now, and have a tab in Mail/News open with my calendar. You can wait for the release, or try one of the nightlies. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/ It seems very stable, but, if you prefer, you can wait for the release version Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...
Ant wrote: On 11/28/2009 2:03 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed: There is a place in account settings to set a location for sent, drafts, archives and templates, but nothing for send later. In about config, there is: mail.default_sendlater_uri I suppose you could modify that path, but even if you were successful, that would send send later messages from all accounts to that location, which, I suspect, would be worse then what is there now. Interesting. What would I change it to? Not sure how the formatting works. I see: mailbox://nob...@local%20folders/Unsent%20Messages ... I don't advise changing it, then again, I am perfectly happy with the Outbox in Local Folders. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v2 extension replacements
Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Mike C wrote: Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:11:15 -0800, Ant wrote: /snip/ To whom it may concern: I am wondering whatever happened to the calendar that was supposed to be either an extension or an add-in to SM2? :-) The next version of Lightning should be compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0. Indeed, I have a nightly build installed now, and have a tab in Mail/News open with my calendar. You can wait for the release, or try one of the nightlies. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/ It seems very stable, but, if you prefer, you can wait for the release version Lee By the way John, please don't send me provate email along with the newsgroup post. I'll see it in the newsgroup. I have made this request several times in the past. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 email password problem
desertgal wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Edward wrote: desertgal wrote: /snip/ See if anything here helps: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86401 Lee I checked the settings, unchecked the secure authorization it still won't connect. I went to the link above installed the telnet client, but it still comes up connection refused. FINALLY, I just tried disabling the firewall it connected. I guess the firewall is blocking the port so I'll have to set it up to allow access. Thens for your help. That was where I was going next, I'm glad its working for you. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey v2 extension replacements
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John Boyle wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Mike C wrote: Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:11:15 -0800, Ant wrote: /snip/ To whom it may concern: I am wondering whatever happened to the calendar that was supposed to be either an extension or an add-in to SM2? :-) The next version of Lightning should be compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0. Indeed, I have a nightly build installed now, and have a tab in Mail/News open with my calendar. You can wait for the release, or try one of the nightlies. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/ It seems very stable, but, if you prefer, you can wait for the release version Lee By the way John, please don't send me provate email along with the newsgroup post. I'll see it in the newsgroup. I have made this request several times in the past. Lee Just tried to install the nightly. received message extension Lightning was prevented from install because it incompatible with SM 2 (use Mac) Should be compatible up to 2.01 pre. I suspect you tried to install the wrong version. Note that it is dependent on platform, here is a direct link to the mac version. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/macosx-xpi/ Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here is the fix #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18 And the site is Viewable But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again . I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18. On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at the top of the page, do you see the following: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste it into a reply to this message. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous. You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep breathe here. Lee I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ? I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0. I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class . So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ? Deep breath myself. Look at the User Agent string you posted in response to David's request. Its above, but here it is again: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7* *Emphasis mine.* You have your 1.1.18 profile reporting that it is Firefox 2.0.07 on Windows XP, instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on Windows XP. The site's browser sniffer lets you in because it thinks you are using ff 2.0.0.7. That's called UA spoofing. The User Agent string is what is reported to the web site's server as the browser and OS you are using. At some time, you changed the User Agent string in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to spoof FF 2.0.0.7, probably to fix a similar problem with another web site. You may not remember doing it, but clearly you did it at some time. This can be done manually in about:config, or by an extension, such as teh UA switcher. I don't know how you did it. Installing 2.0 caused SeaMonkey to report as what it actually is, SeaMonkey 2.0. If I spoof the 2.0 UA to report as FF 3.5, it works fine too. To tell users that going back to Sm 1.1.18 to *fix* this problem is totally incorrect. SM 1.1.18 with its proper user agent has exactly the same problem as SM 2.0. I understand your frustration over the Sm 2.0 upgrade. Still, it is unwise to simply post blanket *fixes* as you have done tonight. Its not always correct, indeed often wrong, and its not helpsing users to solve 2.0 problems. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems with Certificates Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made the best choice - for all of us. No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ? The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems Still looking for Spoofing ... New hard drive New install of Win 7 New install of Seamonkey 2.0 No, NO NO!! Its not the install of 2.0 that's reporting the wrong UA, its your 1.1.18!!! And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes . And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID . The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly . As far as the other post go ' http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Totslly useless information snipped. I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.1 You got right in because the UA string which *you* reported in another thread is incorrect. Someone, either you or someone with access to your machine permanently changed the UA string. SeaMonkey will not do this by itself. SeaMonkey is not going to report a UA of an antiquated version of Firefox without user intervention. If it was not you, it was someone with access to your machine. I dare you to try creating a new profile in SeaMonkey 1.1.18, and see if you can get in. Create this new profile, and report it back here. It *will* show the correct UA for SeaMonkey. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case. I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0. I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work. Lee OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone. Okay, lets consider why sites sniff for browsers. Their plan is to serve different versions to users with specific browsers. I got it work by spoofing Firefox. You spoofed IE, and it did not work, probably because the version served was for the IE rendering engine. SeaMonkey has the same gecko rendering engine as Firefox. Always try spoofing Firefox first, that is most likely to work with SeaMonkey. By the way, you asked earlier about a version of IE tab that would work with 2.0, yet you state that you hate running IE. Using IE tab in SeaMonkey just converts SM to an IE shell, you might as well be running IE. Not that this is a crime, but just a point to consider. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems with Certificates Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made the best choice - for all of us. No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ? The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems Still looking for Spoofing ... New hard drive New install of Win 7 New install of Seamonkey 2.0 No, NO NO!! Its not the install of 2.0 that's reporting the wrong UA, its your 1.1.18!!! And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes . And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID . The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly . As far as the other post go ' http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Totslly useless information snipped. I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.1 You got right in because the UA string which *you* reported in another thread is incorrect. Someone, either you or someone with access to your machine permanently changed the UA string. SeaMonkey will not do this by itself. SeaMonkey is not going to report a UA of an antiquated version of Firefox without user intervention. If it was not you, it was someone with access to your machine. I dare you to try creating a new profile in SeaMonkey 1.1.18, and see if you can get in. Create this new profile, and report it back here. It *will* show the correct UA for SeaMonkey. Lee I already created a new profile and it Reads the Same . I even uninstalled 1.1.18 and Deleted all files and even wiped the folders . And dowloaded Seamonkey 1.1.18 again and installed it . Remade the profile . and here is what it says SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Now Tell me How you Spoof it . Where Do i type in SPOOF ? Reply in full to NoOP's post. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Bush wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems with Certificates Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made the best choice - for all of us. No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ? The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems Still looking for Spoofing ... New hard drive New install of Win 7 New install of Seamonkey 2.0 And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes . And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID . The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly . As far as the other post go ' http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.18 Yes you did - you spoofed Firefox just fine: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Now, toddle along enjoy your ignorance. But if you'd really like to understand what/when/where, why not try being such an ass and work with the folks who are _trying_ to help you? Please click 'Help|About SeaMonkey' and tell us what shows under 'SeaMonkey 1.1.18'. Don't be afraid, you can copy and paste the result here. My guess is that it will show: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 and you'll find that Firefox/2.0.0.7 is *not* a valid/normal UA in a standard SeaMonkey install. Somewhere along the line you, or whoever installed SeaMonkey for you, added the Firefox/2.0.0.7 into your profile for Firefox spoofing. That's not necessarily a bad thing (subject to some debate), but just understand it is *not* standard and is there for Fx spoofing. Please tell us what you see when you enter: about:plugins Just the header/main such as: Default Plugin Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16 etc. File name: npoji610.dll Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-java-vm Java Yes Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17 File name: npjpi160_17.dll Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla Now enter: about:config and enter: firefox in the Filter box. What do you see? Nothing Happens . after pushing Enter Key . Bottom screen goes Blank if I enter Seamonkey I get I only have one hand so hopefully I get this corect general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7 AHA!! Note, *userset*!!! Note that the pref is probably in bold. That tells us that a user has changed the default setting. Right click on the pref and choose reset. That will set it back to the default setting. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer Unless someone has reset the ua on them. Check the about:config pref to see if iit is also marked userset. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7 AHA!! Note, *userset*!!! Note that the pref is probably in bold. That tells us that a user has changed the default setting. Right click on the pref and choose reset. That will set it back to the default setting. Lee yes the whole line was in Bold ... Everyone in my home Has their own computers . I am the only one who uses this one . Could it Be that Win 7 uninstaller left seamonker 2.0 setting in the Registry ? look at my answer when I went to my wifes computer that has Seamonkey 1.1.14 I Sent her about seamonkey to me SeaMonkey 1.1.14 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx and the above link works on hers. I almost got Killed for waking her up. Almost hat a tiger wood situation .. You think I am a Dick or pulling your chain. But in No way did I So called Spoof Seamonkey . I admit, I am getting frustrated, but I sense we are getting some light at the end of the tunnel. The SeaMonkey UA will say SeaMonkey 2.0. Here is mine, note I am on a Mac: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0 Your wife has SM 1.1.14. I suggest updating that to 1.1.18, by the way. The TVGuide page does seem to work without spoofing, but note Danny's original post, with the following: When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. So, rather then just opening the page, you have to go to the program listings, then click on a show to see details. If SM has its proper UA, it will show a blank space. If it is spoofed as FF, it will work. You, or someone using your computer did change the UA. There is no other way for this to happen. I can see how SM *might* reset to its default on its own, but there is no way it will change the UA to an antiquated version of Firefox on its own. FF 2.0.0.7 was released over two years ago. It is certainly possible that you had a problem viewing a site, were advised to reset the UA to the then current version of Firefox, and, over these more then two years, forgot that you had done it. I know that I can not certainly swear to things I did over two years ago. Anyhow, if you reset the pref in about:config as I described elsewhere, you will find that reverting to 1.1.18 is not an answer to these kind of problems. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ /snip/ Just tried my computer at tvguid and clicked a show showing on HBO and I get a RED box with a desription of the movie . If you did not reset the about:config pref as i described, yes that is what would happen. The site thinks you are using Firefox, and serves you a working version. /snip/ You, or someone using your computer did change the UA. There is no other way for this to happen. I can see how SM *might* reset to its default on its own, but there is no way it will change the UA to an antiquated version of Firefox on its own. Sorry .. I do all the computer repair here . And no way did I mess with any setting other That What is in the Menu's . I can't say anything more then I have already said, some user reset the pref. *userset* means some *user* *set* the pref. There is no other way for it to happen. /snip/ I only started having problems when I installed seamonkey 2.0 , It looks suspicious to you, But I have never installed Firefox or thunderbird on any of the computers Here . But that is Beside the point Because when win 7 was released ( I bought it From microsoft ) I bought a new Sata Drive . installed win7 pro and then Seamonkey 1.1.18 Then I saw that 2.0 was on the seamonkey site as the Current release .. Uninstalled 1.1.18 and installed 2.0 . Had too many problems access e-mail and certain sites, So I uninstalled 2.0 and reinstalled 1.1.18 and Now u say I spoofed it ... You installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 first. Did you transfer settings and files from your previous windows installation? Specifically, did you transfer your 1.1.18 profile from your previous Windows installation? If so, anything you did with SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was carried over. Heck, I've forgotten about more things I've done with computers then I remember. I've often switched the UA to troubleshoot an issue, then forgot that I did it. Fortunately the Prefbar extension reset it as the true UA on a restart, or all of you might be wondering how I am posting here in IE6 on XP :) Anyhow, if you reset the pref in about:config as I described elsewhere, you will find that reverting to 1.1.18 is not an answer to these kind of problems. Right now I donot think I should mess with something that is access all the websites . I know u are trying to figure out WHY . and I hope your Conversations May help the develpers figure this out in the Future . The problem with a permanent UA spoofing is that the web sites' logs will indicate that any visit you make with is with Firefox, not SeaMonkey. These web site developers will then have no real reason to update their browser sniffers to include SeaMonkey. What I do when I encounter such a site is to spoof the UA to Firefox. If I am successful in getting in, I write the web developer of that site to tell them that SeaMonkey can in fact deliver their page accurately, and ask them to adjust their browser sniffer accordingly. I'm not saying that you should go that far. However, if you leave your UA permanently spoofed, you are not helping to broaden web access for SeaMonkey. The user does play an important part here. I would suggest returning to the true UA. Then, via an extension such as Preference Toolbar, or the UA switcher, switch the us on an as needed basis. That way, at least the web logs will indicate a attempted visit by SeaMonkey, so an tech evangelism attempt will have more credence. Thanks for the help Lee .I may answer some more of you inquiries later. But typing with one hand makes the good Hand Hurt .. I already lost one hand and do not want to loose the remaining one . One of our valued contributors here types one handed as well. (Hi Daniel) I don't have any personal experience with one handed typing, but I manage to do badly enough with two hands :) I do appreciate your efforts in improving this valued suite. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Danny Kile wrote: /snip/ I've never used UA switcher, but your current UA is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Change that to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Firefox/3.5.5 Add that you your UA Switcher, and it should do the trick. Lee Thank you, Lee. Adding that line to the UA Switcher and spoofing FireFox did the trick without having to run IE Tab. Thank you again! Danny I amso glad to have helped! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7
S. Beaulieu wrote: I'll be getting a new computer either today or tomorrow. While I am familiar with the profile transfer process, which I've done many times before, I've never done it on anything more exotic than going from Win2K to WinXP. So my question is, is there any specific process to use to transfer my 2.0 profile from Win2K to Win7 or is the standard cut and paste approach sufficient? Any information on this matter will be much appreciated. S. The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either 2K or XP: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7
S. Beaulieu wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: The standard cut and paste manual move will work, as long as you find the proper profile location, which is different on Win7 then on either 2K or XP: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey Thank you! Just to be sure I was clear, my regular CP approach is to copy whatever is below the basic profile folder, files and all, and crush it over whatever is below the basic profile folder of the second computer. So that will still work? Colour me impressed, as I would have expected to be told that the infrastructure was completely different. yay for simplicity! How about copying my whole default profile into the default profile location on the new computer *before* I installed SM on it? Would that also work? I've never tried that approach before. S. As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7, there should be no problem with your procedure. For what its worth, here is how I go about it, which is slightly different then you may see elsewhere. Copy the profile folder from the old machine. Install SeaMonkey 2.0 on the new machine. Use the Profile Manager to create its default profile. Do not open SeaMonkey yet, just close Profile Manager once the new profile is created. With SeaMonkey closed, navigate to your new profile folder, the location of which can be found at the link I provided earlier. The new profile will be in a folder called .default. Your old profile will be .(profilename). Paste the old profile folder from the old machine in along side the newly created profile folder. The x's in the above examples are actually a random string of numbers and letters. (profilename) would the name of your profile from your old computer, which may very well be default. For the sake of this example, say the newly created profile is a1b2c3d4.default, and the profile from the old machine is 4d3c2b1a.default. Make a note of the newly created profile name. Rename this newly created profile to a1b2c3d4.defaultold. Then rename your old machine profile, 4d3c2b1a.default to a1b2c3d4.default. In short, rename the profile you are moving to the same name as the one you just created. Close out, then start SeaMonkey. You should see your moved profile with all the data you had on Win2K. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug in text areas
Rex wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Rex schrieb: I've noticed this when typing in a text area. I've typed some text, and then changed focus from the textarea. When I click back on it, nothing happens unless I click exactly where I was last editing. I click anywhere else, the textarea does not acquire focus, the mouse arrow remains an arrow (doesn't change to the text cursor) and the cursor does not appear. To put it another way, if I click on a text area that has text in it, I expect the text cursor to appear where I clicked. This does not happen. If I click at the last letter that I typed, then the cursor appears, and I have to navigate by keyboard to get back to where I want to edit. WFM. Any example page maybe? regards Martin Try commenting on an article at slashdot.org. I just went to slashdot.org, and started a comment. The text area is behaving quite normally. I started a comment, clicked outside the field, then back in and the cursor reappeared. I noted a typing error (how unlike me) and clicked to place the cursor in order to correct it. It worked, no need for the back arrow on the keyboard. I then went back, started this response, then back to the browser and slashdot, and repeated the above. From here its working exactly as it should. You could try starting SeaMonkey in safe mode, though I doubt its actually a SeaMonkey problem. Worth a try anyway. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: To all those claiming that SM 2.0 is 'junk'..
chicagofan wrote: Stan wrote: Rex wrote: /snip/ In spite of Old Croc Boyle's protestations for the last month, the majority does not consider SM 2.0 junk. :) I upgraded 1.1.14 to a beta of 2.0 to get the newsgroup crossposting filter, then upgraded to this release; with only the SMTP edit necessity escaping me. Came to this group and got help resolving that right away. I've since installed the Walnut theme, and I'm loving my version of SM 2.0. bj Me too. Profile migration was very smooth from here. The new Addons Manager is worth the hassle of the new version by itself. Extensions and themes are easier to install, easier to uninstall, and easier to configure. More extensions will be available as we go, since it is now much easier to get FF and TB extensions to work with SM. I guess the biggest drawback is the Forms Manager, or lack thereof. I never really used it that much, but for those who do, it is a loss. However, it is good to note that returning a version of it may well be in the works. By and large, I feel this release had to happen, and soon. I don't think waiting any longer was likely to make the transition less bumpy, and now the SeaMonkey project is well poised for its future development. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7
S. Beaulieu wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: As long as you are moving a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile from Win 2K to Win 7, there should be no problem with your procedure. You were right! I'm writing from the new computer and the transfer was 100% painless and easy! I just hard a hard time figuring out how to not have to use the Search function... (Well, Win2K looks like crap and is definitely going to need some getting used to, but I guess that's besides the point!) Thank you very much. S. It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you. Let us know if we can be of further help. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.0 from Win2K to Win7
S. Beaulieu wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: It is a pretty easy approach. I amso glad to here its working for you. Let us know if we can be of further help. Well, there is only one thing: my fonts in SM (and not elsewhere, it semms, but I haven't played much with anything but SM) now look all kind of fuzzy/blurry, not as sharp as they were on my old computer. I've tried playing with my screen's and Windows' settings, thinking at first that it had to do with drivers and such, but it really seems to be restricted to SM. Even the font itself looks slightly of different than before (which shouldn't be the case, as I didn't change anything on that front). Do you have any ideas what could be causing this? Would it have to do with my Appearance settings? S. Well, I'm a Mac user. I have Windows boxes, but nothing running Win7 at this point. Perhaps a Win user will jump in. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: So now I am puzzled by what Bush is telling us about his wife's computer. About WHAT ? Simple ... I went to my wifes computer and pulled up the About Seamonkey and it Showed she was using 1.1.14 and her computer can view the sites that Seamonkey 2.0 Cannot View . like the TV guide website . It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). I have to be honest, I'm just not believing this. I have Sm 1.1.4 installed on an XP box. I had installed SM 2, and migrated the profile with success. I left the 1.1.14 install on for test purposes. The UA reports 1.1.14, as it should, and the TV Guide site does *not* work unless I spoof the UA as Firefox. I am afraid Bush's credibility is a bit low right now. I really dout that his wife's computer is showing the site correctly, without either spoofing the UA, ofr having IETab installed. Maybe its the latter, but a plain m 1.1.14 on XP will *not* display the site correcty. I hope others will test, and if I am wrong, I will be glad to be proven so. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Phillip Jones wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. I went to TV Guide site works for me. SM 2.0 Mac OSX.4.11 If you go to the program listings, and cick on a show, does it show the details, or a white box? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: It is not that she is using SeaMonkey 1.1.14, but rather that the user agent string is apparently not spoofing FireFox (unlike yours, which does). Please follow what I said ... We both Can see what the other is seeing on those web sites ... They say hers is Not Spoofed with 1.1.14 And they say Mine is spoofed with 1.1.18 Both of our computer can See What Seamonkey 2.0 cannot See . I think there is a site called photobucket . I may just create an account and Upload Screen shots from Each Computer . Start up 2 incidents of seamokey 1.1.14 on my wifes computer . One page will have that TV guide site in the background and I will Shrink the 2nd incident with About seamonkey in Front of the TV guide page ... Do a Screen shot and Upload that Screen shot to Photobucket . And likewise Do the Same with my Computer That is runnung What they are saying as SPOOFED Ver 1.1.18 And put a link to Each screenshot here . This will be Done Tomorrow . Will this Satified All of YOU ? I am not saying I do not believe you. I am saying that I am puzzled by what you are reporting. Everybody else with an unaltered version of 1.x or 2.0 says the TVGuide site does not work correctly. When I had 2.0 om my computer I do not think I went to The TV guide site . But I did go to the blm site and IT did not view the site . I uninstalled 2.0 reinstalled 1.1.18 and I can view Both Sites . My Wife Has XP and seamonkey 1.1.14 And her computer Can View Both Sites .And the TV guide sit does show the info on the programs when I click it and the info is in a RED box that has a White background I view it the Same way on my computer as hers . I do have the Photobucket site Set up But I think u want to see my wifes computer Screenshot .. Her computer is in the Bedroom and I will be in Big trouble if I go in their and turn on the lights . I am going to Create a screen shot of my computer with the TVguide site and also the about seamonkey page .. The link will be in the next line I hope this works tomorrow I will do one from my wifes computer http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/?action=viewcurrent=tvguide.jpg This may work better http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Sure, it shows your spoofed UA as FF 2.0.0.7, of course it works, that was never in question. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Bush wrote: Bush wrote: Bush wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii69/willy48529/tvguide.jpg Tried the tvguide site this morning with my wifes computer again. And the Program Discriptions DO NOT WORK 1.1.14 That's what I expected, thanks so much for confirming it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sniffing and Spoofing
Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Two recent threads in mozilla.support.seamonkey on this issue resulted in very lengthy discussions. See SeaMonkey and U.S. Government site does not work at news://news.mozilla.org:119/so-dntlowokak43wnz2dnuvz_r6dn...@mozilla.org and Web site work in IE but not in SeaMonkey 2.0 at news://news.mozilla.org:119/xfadnab_io4m4inwnz2dnuvz_oodn...@mozilla.org. I can view the the TVGuide site with no problem and I do not have any spoofing set up. I can not view the Government site in SM 2 as I do not have any spoofing set. as shown here: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 These are just more examples of errors being asserted in a Gecko browser when the real problem are invalid sniffing for UA strings by Web servers. These problems are not new. Tracking bug #334967 for these problems was written on 21 Apr 2006. The earliest bug tracked by #334967 was bug #166261, written on 2 September 2002 and now closed. Novice users of SeaMonkey and other non-Firefox browsers that use Gecko are often confused about what sniffing and spoofing are. This was readily noticed in the two threads cited above, where one user repeatedly claimed that he could not be spoofing because he didn't even know what that meant. He very strongly stated that SeaMonkey 2.0 was broken but SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was not because he could view two web sites with the latter but not with the former. When instructed how to report his UA strings for both versions of SeaMonkey in mozilla.support.seamonkey, it was seen that his SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was spoofing Firefox 2.0.0.7. When he migrated to SeaMonkey 2.0, the user-set preference variable to continue such spoofing was not included. The problem is usually attributed to invalid sniffing for Firefox when Web servers should sniff for Gecko. The real problem is that servers should not sniff at all. Interesting, informative, entertaining, aesthetically pleasing Web sites can be created that can be appropriately viewed by any modern browser without sniffing, providing those sites fully comply with the W3C specifications. To deal with this issue, I suggest the following: 1. Every detected instance of invalid sniffing must result in a bug report blocking bug #334967. Documenting the problem via Bugzilla makes it easier to communicate the problem to the Web site owner. 2. Today, much sniffing still excludes Opera, Safari, Konqueror, and Chrome let alone non-Firefox Gecko browsers. When dealing with a bug report tracked by bug #334967, Web site owners should be strongly urged not to sniff at all because sniffing is excluding potential audiences for their sites. 3. When helping users to defeat invalid sniffing, they should be advised to treat spoofing as a temporary measure. Permanent sniffing lends credence to assertions by Web developers that Firefox is the only Gecko browser visiting their sites and that no one uses SeaMonkey. Extensions such as PrefBar or User Agent Switcher should be recommended because they revert the UA string back to the browser's true UA when terminating or starting. Further, any spoofing must include the actual SeaMonkey UA string with Firefox mere added; this is required so that humans reviewing raw server logs will see that SeaMonkey is an actual browser visiting their Web sites. 4. Users must be urged to contact the site owner with a complaint about invalid sniffing, referring both to the bug report and to Gecko is Gecko athttp://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko. 5. Management at both the Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation should make similar contacts via postal mail with executives of the companies and agencies whose Web sites are causing problems. (Many executives are still more responsive to postal mail than to E-mail.) Such contacts to U.S. companies should mention that sniffing might yield Web sites that violate the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA); contacts with U.S. federal agencies should mention that sniffing might yield Web sites that violate Section 508 of the U.S. Rehabilitation Act of 1986 (as amended in 1998). 6. If any complaint (#4 or #5 above) results in a response that no one uses SeaMonkey, the responder should be asked to review the raw server logs to see if SeaMonkey appears among the UA strings (see #3 above). Phillip, the TV Guide site *looks* like it displays fine in SM 2.0 or 1.1.18, but not all of the functions work. Specifically, if you go to the program listing and click onone of the shows, you are supposed to get a box with information on that show. If your UA is not spoofed, you get a blank box. If you spoof the UA as Firefox, you get the information. Please test this and report back. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sniffing and Spoofing
Rufus wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 12/2/2009 5:09 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: I previously wrote [in part]: /snip/ I can't see the individual listing's either using a Mac and SM 1.1.18...but I have a question - do you have to log into the TV Guide site in order to see the individual listings?..i.e.; have a subscription? No, you just need to spoof as FF. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sniffing and Spoofing
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: /snip/ Lee Just saw this: Not SM 2 specific Tried in SeaMonkey 2, FireFox 3.5, Camino, Opera, iCab,OmniWeb, and Safari. They all look the same then act the same. Don't have access to Chrome Mac (won't be a version for Mac until about spring or summer '10. And Hasn't been a Version for Mac of IE since 5.2.3 and I don't have that loaded. about half of these browsers are Webkit and about half are gecko. So either there are errors on the page coded badly or they have set to only work with Internet Exploder. Well, I don't have time right now for extensive testing, but I did try it on 3.5.5, and it was working fine. Unless they have changed something, there is something afoot. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 2/12/2009 23:36, John Boyle told the world: Phillip Jones wrote: question wrote: Is 2.0 a beta ? At this point official no. To the newsgroup: But from a USERS standpoint, a definite YES! :-( Speaking as someone who had *no* problems at all, whose migration went flawlessly (despite having a somewhat complex mail setup) and who now enjoys a lot of stuff that simply wasn't available for the old version, I have to disagree. No software *ever* hits the public in a perfect form. Bugs *will* be found. But calling it a beta because of it... well, by that logic, *all* software is beta. when we see so much complains it would be better to maintain the beta status some time longer ... I strongly disagree. They went through, I think 3 RC's. Versions were tested in house, then went to public alphas, betas, and RCs. The testing showed some major issues, which were corrected. most of the problems we are seeing here are minor, the exceptions being the migration issues, and the form manager. Any product that goes through a really major revision, and, under the hood, this might as well be a new product, is going to have issues like this. You think you are seeing complaints now? Wait til Thunderbird 3 reaches release. They are testing like crazy and fixing things,and delaying. I predict there will still be storm when it hits release. Wait til the software is perfect, and you might as well never release anything. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 2/12/2009 23:36, John Boyle told the world: Phillip Jones wrote: question wrote: Is 2.0 a beta ? At this point official no. To the newsgroup: But from a USERS standpoint, a definite YES! :-( Speaking as someone who had *no* problems at all, whose migration went flawlessly (despite having a somewhat complex mail setup) and who now enjoys a lot of stuff that simply wasn't available for the old version, I have to disagree. No software *ever* hits the public in a perfect form. Bugs *will* be found. But calling it a beta because of it... well, by that logic, *all* software is beta. when we see so much complains it would be better to maintain the beta status some time longer ... I strongly disagree. They went through, I think 3 RC's. Versions were tested in house, then went to public alphas, betas, and RCs. The testing showed some major issues, which were corrected. most of the problems we are seeing here are minor, the exceptions being the migration issues, and the form manager. In my opinion, the migration issues are MAJOR ISSUES ... They are major for those who are experiencing them, which not everyone by any means. I migrated profiles on five machines, all without issue, Macs and Windows. If you think that the people who post here represent a majority of users, you are sadly mistaken. It is an issue surely, and a major one for those who experience it, but for most it has gone smoothly. Perhaps if some of the people who had migration problems had participated in the testing phase and shown a problem, something might have been done. I tested from the alphas on and reported no problem with the migration because I had none. Every time I installed a build from alpha 1 up, I trashed the previous profile to run the migration again, and every time it worked smoothly. It took a long time, since I have 20 email accounts and 11 new accounts, and the data is stored in a non default location. With that involved email profile, I fully expected the migration to fail, but it didn't. I did send a couple of crash reports during the alphas, but it really only crashed a couple of times. It would be fair to say that the project could have benefited from a wider body of testers, but based on those people who did test it wasn't broken. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : Features that people liked that got discontinued—it's definitely annoying, but it's not a problem or a bug. It is when people depend upon them. it's a problem *for them*, but it's not a SeaMonkey problem as the software acts as it's meant to. That's what I meant. Therefore, you consider SM2.0 all ok, because you were not affected. In a wor, yes. The form manager was left out, ant Phil Chee explained why. He also posted here that the form manager is being reconsidered, which is a good thing. Firefox has gone a long time without a form manager, and it is the second most popular browser out there. Many people, myself included, really never used it. I didn't even notice it was gone until it was pointed out here. Now that I see how people have used it, obviously it is lacking, and the prospect of it being restored is good. HOwever to cite it as a cause to leave SeaMonkey in beta is just not sensible. By your logic, no software would ever reach a release point. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ For what its worth, its popping right up in SM 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email issues or bug??
NO wrote: Hello all.. I Am using SM 2.0 under Win XP Pro. The issue I have as of late is that when viewing email in some of my folders, after opening the message and leaving the folder, the message disappears completely. I have tried compacting the folders and that did not work. Any suggestions or ideas as to the challenge here? TIA... I know this seems basic, but lets eliminate it as a cause: ViewMessagesAll and, if using a threaded view: ViewsThreadsAll Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email issues or bug??
NO wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: NO wrote: /snip/ ViewMessagesAll and, if using a threaded view: ViewsThreadsAll Lee Lee, Thank you, it was so basic, that it worked. Leave nothing to chance. Warmest regards, Bo I am so glad it worked! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Download Manager is used by almost everybody, including developers, of course. Oh, and I was under the impression that this pref is set to true by default, but I might be wrong, like every so often. Robert Kaiser Its set to false for me as well. I'm quite sure I did nothing to reset it, something to look into. lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0, support for html attributes 'ALT' and 'TITLE'
Christian Mondrup wrote: BeeNeR wrote: On or about 12/5/2009 3:38 PM, reccmo typed the following: /snip/ Works fine for me in 2.0 - Check Edit/Preferences/Appearance and make sure 'Show Tool Tips' box is checked. Thanks - this is what I was missing. Maybe this ought to be default enabled. From here it is. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Found reason Dowload Manager doesn't come up right.
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Shows the people designing the program don't even use it. Shows you don't know what you are talking about (sorry if it sounds offensive, but not any more than your statement is the other way round, think about that). The Download Manager is used by almost everybody, including developers, of course. Oh, and I was under the impression that this pref is set to true by default, but I might be wrong, like every so often. Robert Kaiser Its set to false for me as well. I'm quite sure I did nothing to reset it, something to look into. lee I'm pretty sure that when I installed 2.0 the Pref for what to do with Downloads were defaulted to not being set to anything...but I generally go into the Prefs and check/reset mine in total anytime I install any software - so I never had an issue, as I simply set mine to open a progress dialog after install. ...the buttons in the new 2.0 Progress Dialog suck...way too small. They REALLY suck on a laptop if you're trying to use a touch pad. Download manager does come up regardless of what you set. You have to manually open Download Manager. in 1.1.18 and below if something was started to download the Download Manager would come to the Front if you had to show Download Manager in preferences. Should be: in SM2 Download Manager does *not* come up regardless of what is set. It has to be manually opened. IN SM 1.1.18 if _Preference_ _Download_ was set to *open* _Download_ _Manager_ then as soon as a download began it popped to the front. ...well...yeah... What was mean by my comment is that the preference to make download Manager open as soon as a download starts is broken in SM2. the proper operation is as SM 1.1.18 does it. I thought that wasn't a default in 1.1.18 either? - i.e.; if you do a fresh install, you get nothing until you set the Pref for what you want to do for Downloads. My thought was/is that the pref wasn't properly set/transferred for the OP from previous after his upgrade - pretty sure mine wasn't either, but as stated I always go back and double check pref settings after an upgrade so on initial usage I didn't have an issue...but I may have prevented that myself. True. But when you set for download manager to open in SM 1.1.18 it opens Download Manager once set. ON SM regardless of what is set. the Download Manager doesn't open on it own. You have to open it. The auto open for download Manager is broken. Broken on 2.0? I hadn't noticed...but I 'll give it a try and see. Found the problem go to about:cofig the following line should be: default userset browser.download.manager.showWhenStarting;true despite being set properly in preferences you will see: *userset* *browser*.*download*.*manager*.*showWhenStarting*;*false* Actually, that's not at all what I see. I reset it in Preferences, and the pref shows True in about:config. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: remove me
Ryan Niederberger wrote: can you remove me from this support list, i dont have time to answer any questions any more thanks No, only you can do that. Go the page from which you subscribed and follow the directions to remove yourself form the list. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
S. Beaulieu wrote: Philip Chee a écrit : Basically the core developers said that if it is that important to us (seamonkey developers) we can jolly well re-invent that functionality ourselves. Seriously, that sucks. Making things difficult is really not a good way to convince people to switch to our products. Let's just hope someone will come up with some sort of migration tool extension. S. I imagine the functionality had been in plac e back in the pre FF1.0 days, when they did a similar move of the profile location ( to much gnashing of teeth, I might add). Clearly, there is no need for it in Firefox anymore, so I can understand their desire to remove it. It would be nice maybe to keep in on hand, just as a show of good will, at least through 2.1. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: All 'bookmark's have disappeared
Merode wrote: I downloaded version 2 of Sea Monkey and now all my history and bookmarks have disappeared. How on earth can I get them back On Windows, installing 2.0 does not overwrite 1.1.18. Unless you uninstalled it, both are still active on your system. Find the program folder for 1.1.18, and start it to verify that your bookmarks are still there. You will be able to restore them. When You started 2.0, did the migration wizard run, or did you get a clean profile, as though the program had never been installed? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: All I can say is that I tried several times to install 2.0 over 1.1.18 and it corrupted my iTunes file and would not open. That would suggest that there is a problem moving between the two. What does iTunes have to do with SeaMonkey upgrades? Robert Kaiser That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. No, installing SM 2.0 could not affect your iTunes library, there is something else at work here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .
John wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: John wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: /snip/ That is a damn good question why should SM have anything to do with iTunes but, I can tell you that it did totally destroy my iTunes library. It happened before too but, this time I had a backup. No, installing SM 2.0 could not affect your iTunes library, there is something else at work here. Lee Then give me some suggestions, there is nothing in event viewer to suggest that anything other SM2 was running. Post a whole lot more information. What is your exact version of Windows, describe the scenario in which your iTunes library was destroyed, and tell us exactly what happens when you try to open it. I run iTunes on Windows and Mac's, and SeaMonkey 2.0, now the 2.01 beta, and have noticed anything like this. Work with us, maybe we can help. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
