Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Martin Leese]

John Merchant wrote:

> If anyone is interested, here's a copy of the paper Gus mentioned.
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John Merchant wrote:

> Hmm, looks like the server removes any attachments.
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> Try this:
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More punted off to the side than removed.  I
successfully downloaded the attachment from
the sursound website.

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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[Wim]

It's probably USB audio compliant. Requires no drivers on any OS. An iphone
or ipad should work with the famous "Camera connection kit" from Apple.
With Android, YMMV, but it should also work, in principle...

2017-08-18 18:35 GMT+02:00 Steven Boardman :

> Well, don’t be sure it will work with all Android devices. I have been
> there before, but It will also work with a computer.
> It’s $89 till the end of August, which IS what makes it interesting.
> Not sure of the regular price of $179. I need to hear some music recorded
> with it first….
>
> It’s a good choice (for them) to use a ping pong sample, to show the
> spatial abilities. A small emitter of mid/high frequency transients, one
> already knows which direction it will appear next!
>
> Steve
>
>
> > On 18 Aug 2017, at 16:04, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote:
> >
> > Since it's USB it must be Android-only for the moment.
> >
> > Any idea the price?
> >
> > Michael Graves
> > mgra...@mstvp.com
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> > skype mjgraves
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - Subject: [Sursound] Cellphone
> tetrahedral
> > From: "Steven Boardman" 
> > Date: 8/18/17 2:36 am
> > To: "Surround Sound discussion group" 
> >
> > http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en
> >
> > They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
> > solution.
> > Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
> > Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off. Especially as most
> > usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.
> >
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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[Steven Boardman]

Well, don’t be sure it will work with all Android devices. I have been there 
before, but It will also work with a computer.
It’s $89 till the end of August, which IS what makes it interesting. 
Not sure of the regular price of $179. I need to hear some music recorded with 
it first….

It’s a good choice (for them) to use a ping pong sample, to show the spatial 
abilities. A small emitter of mid/high frequency transients, one already knows 
which direction it will appear next!

Steve


> On 18 Aug 2017, at 16:04, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote:
> 
> Since it's USB it must be Android-only for the moment.
> 
> Any idea the price?
> 
> Michael Graves
> mgra...@mstvp.com
> http://www.mgraves.org
> o(713) 861-4005
> c(713) 201-1262
> sip:mgra...@mjg.onsip.com
> skype mjgraves
> 
> 
> - Original Message - Subject: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral
> From: "Steven Boardman" 
> Date: 8/18/17 2:36 am
> To: "Surround Sound discussion group" 
> 
> http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en
> 
> They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
> solution.
> Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
> Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off. Especially as most
> usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.
> 
> Steve
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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[mgraves]

Since it's USB it must be Android-only for the moment.
 
Any idea the price?

 Michael Graves
 mgra...@mstvp.com
http://www.mgraves.org
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 c(713) 201-1262
 sip:mgra...@mjg.onsip.com
 skype mjgraves

 
- Original Message - Subject: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral
From: "Steven Boardman" 
Date: 8/18/17 2:36 am
To: "Surround Sound discussion group" 

http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en
 
 They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
 solution.
 Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
 Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off. Especially as most
 usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.
 
 Steve
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Phi Shu]

>
> "No-one would deny that many of the greatest artists of our time made huge
> progress and developments in the arts - but often would write nothing at
> all about their work."


how many of the "greatest artists of our time" bothered doing a PhD?
Artists electing to do a PhD is a relatively recent phenomenon, there was a
time when an MFA was as far as most went, and before that a degree
sufficed.

a PhD is simply your license to do research in an academic institution,
nothing more, so if you don't actually do any novel research acquiring it,
you shouldn't be awarded the title, sorry, that's just the way I see it.

"It never ceases to amaze me how many PhD candidates have NO idea what they
> want to research before they register for the degree."


I would agree these people should not be doing a PhD, they should instead
be given a coloring book ; )
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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[David Worrall]

It is but a contemporary development of the precedent set by Debussy with Jeux.

 

 

David Worrall, PhD

Professor and Chair

Audio Arts and Acoustics Department

School of Media Arts

Columbia College Chicago

President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org

personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au

 

 

From: Sursound  on behalf of David Pickett 

Reply-To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 3:13 AM
To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

 

It seems that ping pong is the "musical event" of choice. There's 

nothing like being historically aware (cf 1957 stereo demo LPs)!

 

David

 

At 09:36 18-08-17, Steven Boardman wrote:

>http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en

> 

>They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording

>solution.

>Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..

>Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off.  Especially as most

>usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.

> 

>Steve

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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[David Pickett]

It seems that ping pong is the "musical event" of choice. There's 
nothing like being historically aware (cf 1957 stereo demo LPs)!


David

At 09:36 18-08-17, Steven Boardman wrote:
>http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en
>
>They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
>solution.
>Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
>Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off.  Especially as most
>usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.
>
>Steve
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[David Pickett]

At 20:06 17-08-17, Phi Shu wrote:

>Just curious, why do you want to do a PhD at all? are you planning on being
>an academic?

It is a relatively recent requirement of academics that they hold a 
PhD before being allowed into the profession. In my own case, I 
elected to do a PhD in order to be able to answer the questions I had 
about the subject material in a disciplined and rigorous manner. I 
realised from the start that, were I not to have employed the 
framework of a PhD, I should never have achieved anything. That said, 
the structure of my work and the thesis owed little to any previous 
models. Acquiring a PhD in a slightly different field from that in 
which I was engaged as an academic had absolutely no effect on my 
career development.


It never ceases to amaze me how many PhD candidates have NO idea what 
they want to research before they register for the degree. Given that 
the thesis is at the heart of it all (and in my case was the only 
requirement for award of the degree), this is amazing. These are the 
candidates who want a PhD solely because they want to enter the 
academy and, since they often seem to have no independent ideas in 
their heads, I wonder whether they should be allowed in.


David

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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Peter Lennox]

. Thus, as
> > > > > > > sound-based music, the sources may naturally have
> > > > > > > extra-musical information. How to use that information
> > > > > > > appropriately to create artwork so that it could arouse
> > > > > > > people's association and extra-musical experiences? And,
> > > > > > > How
> > > > to
> > > > > > > combine it with other art forms and effectively creates
> > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > perception experiences?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1.2  Perception
> > > > > > > For receiving and processing, sensory system will be used
> > > > > > > and worked together all the time. For artwork creation,
> > > > > > > including sound-based music composition, would it possible
> > > > > > > to break the typical perception habit or used it to create
> > > > > > > artwork according to perception
> > > > principles?
> > > > > > > 1.3Cognition
> > > > > > > In this part, the research question focus on cognition
> > > > > > > process (understanding through thought, experience, and
> > > > > > > existing knowledge,
> > > > > > etc.).
> > > > > > > In the light of above theory, if sound-based music or
> > > > > > > audiovisual artwork could follow the path of cognition
> > > > > > > process, will it creates fantastic artwork that brings
> > > > > > > abundant information even dramatic experiences? For
> > > > > > > example, using symbolic melody, lyrics or sound with
> > > > > > > special meaning, and composed them appropriately, it would
> > > > > > > be act
> > > > like
> > > > > > > "access tools" (Leigh Landy, 2007: 27) and enhance the
> > > > > > > experiences to audiences and assist them understand the
> > > > > > > work more easily. Thus, people will focus on experience
> > > > > > > the feelings or interact with
> > > > artworks
> > > > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > > > > > > cognitive psychology mentioned above, when combining the
> > > > > > > sound-based artwork with other forms of art, will
> > > > > > > innovations
> > > happen by this combination?
> > > > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > > > audiences, so how about creating sound sculpture? It is
> > > > > > > like the natural world presented to us: when we come into
> > > > > > > a place, we will hear and see the surroundings and then
> > > > > > > understand what has happened here, so as "sound
> > > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential
> > > > > > > elements to form
> > > > a
> > > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going
> > > > > > > to
> > > > manipulate
> > > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then
> > > > > > > extract the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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? For example,
> > > > > > using symbolic melody, lyrics or sound with special meaning,
> > > > > > and composed them appropriately, it would be act
> > > like
> > > > > > "access tools" (Leigh Landy, 2007: 27) and enhance the
> > > > > > experiences to audiences and assist them understand the work
> > > > > > more easily. Thus, people will focus on experience the
> > > > > > feelings or interact with
> > > artworks
> > > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > > > > > cognitive psychology mentioned above, when combining the
> > > > > > sound-based artwork with other forms of art, will
> > > > > > innovations
> > happen by this combination?
> > > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > > audiences, so how about creating sound sculpture? It is like
> > > > > > the natural world presented to us: when we come into a
> > > > > > place, we will hear and see the surroundings and then
> > > > > > understand what has happened here, so as "sound
> > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
> > > > > > to form
> > > a
> > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > manipulate
> > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then
> > > > > > extract the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much,
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Augustine Leudar]

sic composition, would it possible
> > > > > > > to break the typical perception habit or used it to create
> > > > > > > artwork according to perception
> > > > principles?
> > > > > > > 1.3Cognition
> > > > > > > In this part, the research question focus on cognition
> > > > > > > process (understanding through thought, experience, and
> > > > > > > existing knowledge,
> > > > > > etc.).
> > > > > > > In the light of above theory, if sound-based music or
> > > > > > > audiovisual artwork could follow the path of cognition
> > > > > > > process, will it creates fantastic artwork that brings
> > > > > > > abundant information even dramatic experiences? For example,
> > > > > > > using symbolic melody, lyrics or sound with special meaning,
> > > > > > > and composed them appropriately, it would be act
> > > > like
> > > > > > > "access tools" (Leigh Landy, 2007: 27) and enhance the
> > > > > > > experiences to audiences and assist them understand the work
> > > > > > > more easily. Thus, people will focus on experience the
> > > > > > > feelings or interact with
> > > > artworks
> > > > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > > > > > > cognitive psychology mentioned above, when combining the
> > > > > > > sound-based artwork with other forms of art, will
> > > > > > > innovations
> > > happen by this combination?
> > > > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > > > audiences, so how about creating sound sculpture? It is like
> > > > > > > the natural world presented to us: when we come into a
> > > > > > > place, we will hear and see the surroundings and then
> > > > > > > understand what has happened here, so as "sound
> > > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
> > > > > > > to form
> > > > a
> > > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > > manipulate
> > > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then
> > > > > > > extract the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > > Yilin
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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; extract the result to form a final dissertation.
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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> > > > > questions,here is a brief description :
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1 The study purpose and sub-questions
> > > > > > 1.1 Main Purpose
> > > > > > For the perception mechanism of human being, every part of the
> > > > > > outer world is affecting the final cognition. Thus, as
> > > > > > sound-based music, the sources may naturally have
> > > > > > extra-musical information. How to use that information
> > > > > > appropriately to create artwork so that it could arouse
> > > > > > people's association and extra-musical experiences? And, How
> > > to
> > > > > > combine it with other art forms and effectively creates
> > > > > > interesting
> > > > > perception experiences?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.2  Perception
> > > > > > For receiving and processing, sensory system will be used and
> > > > > > worked together all the time. For artwork creation, including
> > > > > > sound-based music composition, would it possible to break the
> > > > > > typical perception habit or used it to create artwork
> > > > > > according to perception
> > > principles?
> > > > > > 1.3Cognition
> > > > > > In this part, the research question focus on cognition process
> > > > > > (understanding through thought, experience, and existing
> > > > > > knowledge,
> > > > > etc.).
> > > > > > In the light of above theory, if sound-based music or
> > > > > > audiovisual artwork could follow the path of cognition
> > > > > > process, will it creates fantastic artwork that brings
> > > > > > abundant information even dramatic experiences? For example,
> > > > > > using symbolic melody, lyrics or sound with special meaning,
> > > > > > and composed them appropriately, it would be act
> > > like
> > > > > > "access tools" (Leigh Landy, 2007: 27) and enhance the
> > > > > > experiences to audiences and assist them understand the work
> > > > > > more easily. Thus, people will focus on experience the
> > > > > > feelings or interact with
> > > artworks
> > > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > > > > > cognitive psychology mentioned above, when combining the
> > > > > > sound-based artwork with other forms of art, will innovations
> > happen by this combination?
> > > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > > audiences, so how about creating sound sculpture? It is like
> > > > > > the natural world presented to us: when we come into a place,
> > > > > > we will hear and see the surroundings and then understand what
> > > > > > has happened here, so as "sound
> > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
> > > > > > to form
> > > a
> > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > manipulate
> > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then extract
> > > > > > the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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 feelings or interact with
> > artworks
> > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > > > > cognitive psychology mentioned above, when combining the
> > > > > sound-based artwork with other forms of art, will innovations
> happen by this combination?
> > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > audiences, so how about creating sound sculpture? It is like
> > > > > the natural world presented to us: when we come into a place,
> > > > > we will hear and see the surroundings and then understand what
> > > > > has happened here, so as "sound
> > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
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> > a
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> > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then extract
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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[Marc Lavallée]

A rigid plastic cell phone cover could be modified to better hold the
microphone. At such a low price it looks like a fun toy, and maybe it
can be calibrated.
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> http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en
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> They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
> solution.
> Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
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> most usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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Re: [Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[Steven Boardman]

Sounds ok for it’s current price. Maybe a little phasey, but hard to judge with 
only those two recordings.
Shame the music performance was a table tennis recording, and not of the actual 
guitar performance pictured.

S


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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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nsmit experiences to
> > > > > > > audiences,
> > > so
> > > > > > > how about creating sound sculpture? It is like the natural
> > > > > > > world presented to us: when we come into a place, we will
> > > > > > > hear and see
> > > the
> > > > > > > surroundings and then understand what has happened here, so
> > > > > > > as
> > > "sound
> > > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
> > > > > > > to
> > > form
> > > > a
> > > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > > manipulate
> > > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then
> > > > > > > extract the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

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aning, and composed them appropriately, it would
> > > > > > be act
> > > like
> > > > > > "access tools" (Leigh Landy, 2007: 27) and enhance the
> > > > > > experiences
> > to
> > > > > > audiences and assist them understand the work more easily.
> > > > > > Thus, people will focus on experience the feelings or
> > > > > > interact with
> > > artworks
> > > > > > rather than struggle with questions like what is going on here.
> > > > > > 1.4 Development
> > > > > > To develop the research ideas basis on psychoacoustics and
> > cognitive
> > > > > > psychology mentioned above, when combining the sound-based
> > > > > > artwork with other forms of art, will innovations happen by
> > > > > > this
> > combination?
> > > > > > 1.5  Sound sculpture
> > > > > > As mention above, sound sculpture basis on sound-based music.
> > > > > > Essentially, music is trying to transmit experiences to
> > > > > > audiences,
> > so
> > > > > > how about creating sound sculpture? It is like the natural
> > > > > > world presented to us: when we come into a place, we will
> > > > > > hear and see
> > the
> > > > > > surroundings and then understand what has happened here, so
> > > > > > as
> > "sound
> > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
> > > > > > As I'm new to write proposal, what is the essential elements
> > > > > > to
> > form
> > > a
> > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > manipulate
> > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then
> > > > > > extract the result to form a final dissertation.
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Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Peter Lennox]

See also "Creative Inhibition: how and why?"

A problem is that we have gradually moved to an insidious position where 
"knowledge" has to be expressed in language to be taken seriously. So even if 
one is talking about warm fuzzy subjectivity, one has to be able to discuss in 
hard-edged objective terms. I don't know if anyone ever did a PhD on: The 
parameters of "Nice" - that would be a challenge to get past the research 
degrees committee!

And this brings us to the kind of language that is commonly used in Art 
Galleries. Much of it looks like it has actually been written by those 
automatic bullshit generators (see: https://artybollocks.com/ , 
http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/ ; http://www.buzzwords4u.co.uk/ ; 
https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/scigen/ )

Sorry - we just may have strayed from the surround path...

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College of Arts, Humanities and Education
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-Original Message-
From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Augustine 
Leudar
Sent: 17 August 2017 21:53
To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

I think you misunderstand what I am saying but it's ok.  Anyway you might want 
to look at Stanford. Some of their top academics described academia as a cancer 
for creativity :

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/november2/art-academia-debate-110409.html

I believe some PhDs now have almost no written content whatsoever their now. I 
think the whole concept of research having to be based on research questions is 
outdated - it makes sense for some fields but not really for art - in fact I 
think it hampers innovation. If  art and music seeks to express something that 
can't be expressed verbally - how can you base such activity on verbal research 
questions with out turning art into something dead and pretentious and utterly 
limited by verbal thought processes. The solution in the arts seems to have 
been to make those verbal though processes ridiculously convoluted as possible 
. Have fun with that one anyway and good luck.

On 17 August 2017 at 13:40, 霖の <951343...@qq.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much :) And there are couple of things I'd like to say:
> I agree with both of you and Thank you very much.. The proposal , I
> don't know how specific should it be And one of the problem is
> exactly what Augustine has mentioned, practice led to research. In
> that case, the objects... is more like a train of thought rather than
> just propose some problems for future research. I'm afraid that will
> limit the creation as well. So.. how to write a decent proposal really 
> confuse me.
>
>
> About the term, sound-based composition. It is academic.. at first
> time, I used electroacoustics. However, as I hope to combine club
> electronic music style with electroacoustic music, experiment music
> and so on...The purpose is to have both aesthetic value and art value.
> Sound is a quite potential sources and it is also the future of music,
> that's why I'm not rejected to use this term...For composition, as
> sound and electronic music is quite different from traditional music.
> Composers , always are audio engineer as well. And when we study sound
> composition, we also need to learn psychoacoustics so that we will
> know what we are doing exactly. Besides, combine club electronic means
> extract some approaches or ideas from it, and with principles, those
> sound works will be more humanization and interesting rather than
> serious all the time. There are many people have tried to find a more
> humanization way to present those art works, combination is one of a choice.
>
>
> About the visual cues, I've read some paper write by audiovisual artists.
> To them, audio cues and visual cues are oneness rather than one
> dominate another. What I referred  here is human always percept the
> world with all senses, even in dark room, they still keep using every
> senses which is intuitive. If artists use those principles to create
> sth special, that would be interesting and innovation. But indeed,
> sound always provided informations that visual cues cannot present.
> That's also a interesting point to be research.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "Peter Lennox";;
> Date:  Thu, Aug 17, 2017 04:42 PM
> To:  "Surround Sound discussion group";
>
> Subject:  Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)
>
>
>
> The motion bounce illusion, where application of an audible transient
> alters the visual conclusion, from two circles passing through each
> other, to a perception of them 'bouncing' off each other, is a good
> example of audio altering visual perception.
>
> it would be simplistic to say that one sense 'dominates' the other,
> si

Re: [Sursound] Sound Based Composition(surround)

[Augustine Leudar]

t experiences to
> > > > > > audiences,
> > so
> > > > > > how about creating sound sculpture? It is like the natural
> > > > > > world presented to us: when we come into a place, we will hear
> > > > > > and see
> > the
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> > "sound
> > > > > sculpture" mentioned here.
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> > > > > > to
> > form
> > > a
> > > > > > research object and how specific should it be? I'm going to
> > > manipulate
> > > > > > the principles and compose serious of artworks . Then extract
> > > > > > the result to form a final dissertation.
> > > > > >
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[Sursound] Cellphone tetrahedral

[Steven Boardman]

http://yun.twirlingvr.com/index.php/home/Lite/lite-en

They were also going to bring out a stand alone integrated recording
solution.
Will download the b-format files and listen in the studio later..
Looks precarious, and prone to falling out/over/off.  Especially as most
usb ports are on the bottom and not that tight.

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