Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free

2007-02-01 Thread MK DuPree
That's ok, Joe.  Scientology not my interest.  I'm more concerned with Chip's 
conclusion, especially how he might have arrived at it.  Mike DuPree
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free


  I could tell you a bunch of stuff about scientology, but not here.  You don't 
want to get on their blacklist believe me.

  Joe

  MK DuPree wrote:

Chip, I've heard about Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard (isn't he the 
founder?), but never read any of the stuff.  So I'm not sure what you're 
comparing the video to.  However, I have watched the video The Secret and 
have no problem with it in that it basically speaks to me what I already 
know about myself, that what I see is what I get.  In other words, I 
recognize how many of my actions and much of what I have in my life are 
preceded by my thoughts...or more specifically, my pictures based upon my 
deeply held beliefs and desires.  My personal guide to evaluating any 
expression of what is supposed to be the truth is whether I can verify it as 
reality in my own life or trust I can verify it as the truth in my own life. 
I'm not sure I worded that accurately or completely enough, but there you 
go.
 Anyway, will you be more specific?  What is it about The Secret that 
you compare to Scientology? I'm specifically curious if you have taken 
something and compared it not to the whole body of work but to an aspect of 
the total body of work but summed up the comparison to the whole body of 
work.  If such is the case, I want to caution you and all of us, especially 
myself, against doing so, not just here, but in all areas of your life, our 
lives.  It is that kind of lazy (or worse, prejudiced) thinking that blinds 
us from the truth wherever it may present itself.  It is that kind of lazy 
(or worse, prejudiced) thinking that is the basis for racism and any other 
ism that fails to recognize the uniqueness of the individual and the 
development of that uniqueness in the expression of the truth. Thanks. Mike 
DuPree PS YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID (My new motto 
until we get this damn thing off the books or die trying.  Write to me if 
you need more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

- Original Message - 
From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Secret, a movie, online for free


  D. Mindock wrote:
OK, by now most of you will have heard about the movie, The Secret

Those of you who have not yet seen it, or want to see it again, can watch 
it here:

http://www.renegadelemming.com/secretvideo/
  Reminds me of Scientology

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[Biofuel] Obfuscating Confuscating

2007-02-01 Thread MK DuPree
Yeah...dat's what I'm talkin about...CONFISCATE any vehicle failing to switch 
to cleaner fuel.  LOL  Not in America...in America they want to confiscate YOU! 
 YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID.  Mike DuPree

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United Arab Emirates: Thursday, January 25 - 2007 at 07:42
Abu Dhabi will gradually phase out the production of diesel with high sulphur 
content and replace it with a less polluting green fuel. Under the plan, cars 
that fail to switch to the cleaner fuel will be confiscated, according to Gulf 
News. High sulphur diesel engines are considered to be among the world's top 
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[Biofuel] Convert your Microwave oven to make Colloidal Silver

2007-02-01 Thread D. Mindock
Build Your Own High-Volume Colloidal Silver Maker


You want a plague-ready machine that'll make about 40 quarts of strong 
Colloidal Silver an hour, that you can easily build in an hour for about $38?? 
I've built many now for people and I'll tell you how to make yours. 

This is about the simplest colloidal silver maker you could build. The unit 
makes 1 liter of roughly 40 PPM CS in 1.5 minutes or less using reverse osmosis 
water; with this kind of power, continuous production is possible with a 
spaghetti tube adding and removing water at a trickle. The primarily ionic 
silver it produces has saved lives, write-offs sent home by the hospital to 
die. As the old Chinese saying goes, Those who say it can't be done should not 
interrupt the one who is doing it. 

I have re-wired a microwave oven because it gives more than adequate power - 
about 3600 volts pulsed DC current - to make batches very quickly. I use a  
fine, 1 oz silver wafer rolled-out to 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the 
electrode. This size for the high current allows reduced power DENSITY. The 
electrodes are spaced parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 inches apart, 
the water giving ample RESISTANCE to the current. There is no current-limiting 
needed and all the microwave's safeties still work. It won't operate with the 
door open. 

There are 2 insulated wires going to the magnetron. When you disconnect the 
magnetron (impeller) you'll only be using the heavier (main) wire from the 
capacitor; the silver electrode in the jar of CS you'e brewing usually goes to 
chassis ground and the wire electrode, which can be copper or even iron, goes 
to the main capacitor wire. If you're not running 120 volts the wiring inside 
may be a bit different. 

I'm not an electrician but I found bypassing the magnetron remarkably easy to 
do. Get someone a bit adept at the job and make sure (s)he bleeds the 
capacitor, which contains LETHAL VOLTAGE. Space the electrodes parallel by 
making holes in a plastic yogurt lid for the top and plastic paddle with holes 
the same distance apart at the bottom; at that voltage you have to ensure the 
electrodes never touch. Using an awl or a nail, bash a hole through the light 
perforations in the box cavity and thread the wire through from the CS maker in 
the oven cavity to the feed circuit. 

Make sure the wire is short enough to make it impossible for some goof to 
operate the unit with the electrodes outside the box! 

(Hint: the smaller microwave ovens can be put on their side so you can get a 
decent sized jar inside) 

The first CS maker done this way will take perhaps an hour, the rest, 20 
minutes, and makes the old (free?) microwave into a much more noble device than 
it was even when it was new. The safeties and timer still work and again, it 
only operates when the door is shut. Total cost, a bit of high-voltage wire and 
the one-ounce rolled-out silver ingot, is under about $40 CDN, and I used 
expensive copper-core spark plug wires for the high-voltage part. 

The CS remains clear (not yellow, not cloudy) for many months unless it's 
somehow tainted. If I make it any stronger it can trigger easily if you stick a 
finger in for example, and it WILL plate the inside of the jar with silver at 
the concentration I make it at. Keep it clean ;) 

DISCLAIMER: Don't ask for a diagram. If you need a diagram for this you 
shouldn't be in there. Get a knowledgeable friend to do it. Keep in mind that 
the dangerous part is in the construction, not the use of the beast, and be 
stupid at your own risk.


That being said, copyright waived; go ahead and circulate this note. 
Top of Form
Bottom of Form
Duncan Crow HOME 

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[Biofuel] Ritalin heart attacks warning urged after 51 deaths in US

2007-02-01 Thread D. Mindock
Ritalin heart attacks warning urged after 51 deaths in US


Move to highlight risks of drug prescribed to hyperactive children 

Sarah Boseley, health editor
Saturday February 11, 2006
The Guardian 


Ritalin, extensively prescribed to calm hyperactive children in the UK, should 
carry the highest-level warning that it may increase the risk of death from 
heart attacks, US experts recommended yesterday.
There have been 51 deaths among children and adults taking drugs for ADHD 
(attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) in the US since 1999. Yesterday the 
UK licensing authority, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency 
(MHRA), said nine children had died in this country among a smaller population 
on medication. They declined to reveal the children's ages because of the 
possibility of identification.


Article continues






In the US, doctors write 2m prescriptions for ADHD drugs for children every 
month and 1m for adults. In the UK, nobody knows how many people are on the 
drugs, which are licensed for children as young as six - although there are 
reports of them being given to children as young as three. A total of 361,832 
prescriptions were written last year for Ritalin and other drugs of the 
methylphenidate class, which averages 30,153 a month.
The cause of death for two of the nine children who died in the UK was 
specifically heart-related: one had a heart attack and a second an enlarged 
heart. One was recorded as a sudden death. One died of a haemorrhage in the 
brain and another of a swelling in the brain, two committed suicide and the 
last died of neonatal respiratory distress syndrome - presumably the mother was 
on the drugs.

The recommendation by an advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration to 
put a black box warning - the most serious possible - on all ADHD drugs in 
the US is likely to be accepted. Pressure will mount now on the British 
authorities to warn publicly of the risk.

There is growing concern about the rising numbers of children being put on 
drugs. This class of drugs, known as methylphenidates, are amphetamine-based 
and it is thought they could cause heart problems in some children and adults 
because they raise blood pressure. There is already a warning on the drug most 
widely used in the US, Adderall, which is not licensed in the UK.

The FDA advisers said it was not certain the drugs contributed to the 51 
deaths. The data is only suggestive at this point, but because of the gravity 
of the side-effect, namely sudden death, physicians need to be made clearly 
aware of that concern, said Dr Peter Gross, the panel chairman and head of 
internal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Centre in New Jersey. One 
member of the panel was clear that he hoped the warning might slow down the 
soaring rate of prescription of the drugs to children who are inattentive or 
badly behaved at school. I want to get people's hands to tremble a little bit 
before they write that [prescription], said Steven Nissen, a panel member and 
cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic.

Dave Woodhouse, psychologist and director of the Cactus Clinic, attached to 
Teesside University, which offers parents an alternative to drugs in the form 
of nutritional guidance and counselling, said: One of the main issues is that 
fact that in the case of a lot of kids given Ritalin you don't know if they 
have a heart condition or not.

There are three methylphenidate drugs licensed in the UK - the bestselling 
Ritalin, Concerta and Equasym. The MHRA said there had been 521 reports of 
suspected adverse drug reactions, most of them in the past five years as more 
children have been put on them. It added that methylphenidate is recognised to 
cause cardiovascular adverse effects, such as a racing or abnormal heartbeat 
and palpitations and increased blood pressure.





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Re: [Biofuel] US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
Are you joking?  The military has no need of the web for thier com 
needs.  They have all manner of wireless networks of their own.  Most of 
it is spread spectrum stuff.  The also have ELF for communicating with 
subs clandestinely (which is slow) or can use a blue green laser from a 
satelite to get a message in quickly when they are not concerned about 
revealing the sub's location.  If the s*** hits the fan the entire EM 
spectrum will be filled with jamming signals but spread spectrum and 
coherent techniques are somewhat robust against these tactics.  
Satelites are surprisingly difficult albeit vulnerable targets although 
not impossible it takes a great deal of money and commitment to take one 
out. Uplinks are a different story tho...


Joe

Jason Katie wrote:

so... if they eliminate the entire network that means they would only have 
satellite communications, and i doubt satellites are that terribly difficult 
to disrupt either so hackers could play games with the fed directly and 
cause some serious damage. hummm why does this not make any sense to me? 
which is worse: having people speak against you with impunity, or having 
those same people really pissed off and screwing with your only means of 
communication?


just wondering...
jason
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] US plans to 'fight the net' revealed


 


... Meanwhile...
Rumsfeld is still running the War Department
Sunday, 28 January 2007
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/175/1/

-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm
Friday, 27 January 2006, 18:05 GMT

US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

By Adam Brookes
BBC Pentagon correspondent

A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US
military's plans for information operations - from psychological
operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks.

Report: Information Operations Roadmap:[PDF File]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/27_01_06_psyops.pdf

Bloggers beware.

As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the
military opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies
and the modern media offer.

From influencing public opinion through new media to designing
computer network attack weapons, the US military is learning to
fight an electronic war.

The declassified document is called Information Operations Roadmap.
It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington
University using the Freedom of Information Act.

Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense,
Donald Rumsfeld, signed it.

The roadmap calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's
ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare.
And, in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed
forces should think about this new, virtual warfare.

The document says that information is critical to military success.
Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational
importance.

Propaganda

The operations described in the document include a surprising range
of military activities: public affairs officers who brief
journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate
the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack
specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks.

All these are engaged in information operations.

Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its
acknowledgement that information put out as part of the military's
psychological operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the
computer and television screens of ordinary Americans.

Information intended for foreign audiences, including public
diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic
audience, it reads.

Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much
larger audiences, including the American public, it goes on.

The document's authors acknowledge that American news media should
not unwittingly broadcast military propaganda. Specific boundaries
should be established, they write. But they don't seem to explain
how.

In this day and age it is impossible to prevent stories that are fed
abroad as part of psychological operations propaganda from blowing
back into the United States - even though they were directed abroad,
says Kristin Adair of the National Security Archive.

Credibility problem

Public awareness of the US military's information operations is low,
but it's growing - thanks to some operational clumsiness.

Late last year, it emerged that the Pentagon had paid a private
company, the Lincoln Group, to plant hundreds of stories in Iraqi
newspapers. The stories - all supportive of US policy - were written
by military personnel and then placed in Iraqi publications.

And websites that appeared to be information sites on the politics of
Africa and the Balkans were found to be run by the Pentagon.

But the 

[Biofuel] Reject Real ID--A Story

2007-02-01 Thread MK DuPree
I get an email from someone telling me I have a problem because someone wants 
to sing the National Anthem in Spanish.  The email spews on how this is my 
country and blah blah blah and if I don't forward the email I'm part of the 
problem.  So I write back:

COMING SOON...REAL ID...May 11, 2008.  Give me a break, (name withheld to 
protect the guilty).  We've got much bigger problems coming down on us with 
Real ID than singing the National Anthem in Spanish.  SO (I throw back at the 
guilty one the following words that were in his email trying to make me feel 
guilty if I don't try to make someone else feel guilty by not forwarding their 
idiot email), Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of 
offending someone--YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! 
 And I continue, YOUR LIBERTY--USE IT OR LOSE IT--REJECT REAL ID. Mike PS 
(normally when I go into these tirades, this individual tells me to simmer, so 
I write back--) No simmer, (guilty one)..get fighting goddamn ANGRY we have to 
even deal with this...but deal with it WE must or IT WILL deal with us.  See 
this website for complete info: http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/ Read the 
Act for youself...pay special attention to these words in Section 201(3)...any 
other purposes that the Secretary shall determine.  
 And I include this: I just called the Governor's office, a phone line to 
Government Affairs.  When I asked the little girl on the other end if she knew 
if Kansas had anything in the works to Reject Real ID, she said, I don't think 
Kansas has any jurisdiction for doing that.  This is the Governor's office for 
Government Affairs!  785-368-8500  I told her Maine has rejected it and 
other States have bills in the works to do same.  Call the number yourself and 
ask Jessica if that's what she said to Mike DuPree.  Then ask her how much 
it's going to cost Kansas to implement Real ID.  Then, here's the website for 
emailing the Governor to let her know you want Kansas to Reject Real ID: 
http://www.governor.ks.gov/contact.htm 
 After this I continue my tirade to the guilty one: Ok, you want to get 
real with real problems facing us, (guilty one), REJECT REAL ID...and forward 
this email to everyone on any list you have. Or, Think about this: If you 
don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone--YOU'RE PART OF THE 
PROBLEM! 
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Re: [Biofuel] Exxon Cutting Ties to Global Warming Skeptics

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
No pain no gain right?

Jason Katie wrote:

i have an idea for these cap/trade agreements. why dont they do the same 
thing to the companies reserve credits what the companies do to their 
employee's reserve vacation?

 my father gets six weeks of vacation every year, and if he does not use all 
of it, he can only carry one full week of paid leave into the next year.

i say let them have their credits, but at the end of the year revoke all but 
10% or 1 credit whichever is more. that would mean that no matter how much 
or how fast a company could sell them, someone would be left holding the 
bag. then to add insult to injury, revoke a full 10% of the total issued 
credits every year, regardless of whether or not they have been filled. 
painful? yeah i know, but who really cares about any company's pain? 



  



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Re: [Biofuel] Air-freighted food may lose organic label

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
Shipping food around  is dumb.  Local production and local consumption 
is the way of the future to my way of thinking.


Jason Katie wrote:

why should organic food need to be shipped? why not bike transport? the 
whole idea behind organic is the process-wide health benefits. technically 
speaking organic food should not be shipped at all.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Air-freighted food may lose organic label


 


Keith Addison wrote:
   


http://environment.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,1999460,00.html
| Food | Guardian Unlimited Environment
Air-freighted food may lose organic label

Mark Oliver and agencies
Friday January 26, 2007
Guardian Unlimited
 


[snip]

Oh great!  MORE politics involved in the Organic label.

This is a bad idea.  While I agree that the lower the transportation
miles on the food the better, basing the organic label on that factor is
taking the politics of it to a ridiculous degree.  Whether or not the
food is organic should be based on HOW IT IS GROWN, not how it is shipped!

Now, as a disclaimer, I will say I am not a disinterested party in this,
because I work for an airline that gets a large bit of its revenue from
shipping freight, including organic food.  But even if I take a step
back from my position as an airline employee I still think basing the
organic label on the shipping method is more politics than science.


AP



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Re: [Biofuel] Convert your Microwave oven to make Colloidal Silver

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street

OMG please don't do this!
The capacitor in a microwave oven contains several joules of energy!  
This is sufficient to kill you and has done to more than one 
unsuspecting soul who has decided to tinker around inside the microwave 
oven.  The article below even goes to the extent of warning you to 
discharge the cap before doing any assembly work but then it goes on at 
the end in bold red saying the danger is not in operating the beast but 
in its construction.  It doesn't say anythingabout how you are supposed 
to discharge the cap before you try to remove the electrode from the jar! 

Trust me colloidal siver can be easily made using voltage as low as 20 
volts and with current limiting.  It will take a little longer (15 
minutes) to make a batch ( I do half a litre at a time)  but current 
limiting is important because it keeps particle size down in the low 
nanometer range where it needs to be in order to make a good colloid.  I 
use a little wall wart type transformer for this.  Half a litre IS high 
volume.  Considering that the most effective way to use the stuff is to 
put it in a nasal sprayer and use it directly on ther mucous linings at 
THE FIRST SIGN of a sore throat ( not effective at later stages) and you 
are using perhaps 1ml at a time, half a litre will last your entire 
family a year or more.  DON'T drink the stuff unless you want to kill 
off beneficial bacteria in your GI tract.  Pink eye is easily and 
quickly cured with repeated misting of the open eye, but again it is 
working on contact.  There are many other uses for the stuff which I 
won't get into but it is basically a powerful anit-bacterial which works 
on contact against single celled organisms. 

The internals of microwave ovens are extremely unforgiving and even for 
the initiated there is no room for error or absent mindedness.


Joe

D. Mindock wrote:


Build Your Own High-Volume Colloidal Silver Maker



You want a plague-ready machine that'll make about 40 quarts of strong 
Colloidal Silver an hour, that you can easily build in an hour for 
about $38?? I've built many now for people and I'll tell you how to 
make yours.


This is about the simplest colloidal silver maker you could build. The 
unit makes 1 liter of roughly 40 PPM CS in 1.5 minutes or less using 
reverse osmosis water; with this kind of power, continuous production 
is possible with a spaghetti tube adding and removing water at a 
trickle. The primarily ionic silver it produces has saved lives, 
write-offs sent home by the hospital to die. As the old Chinese saying 
goes, Those who say it can't be done should not interrupt the one who 
is doing it.


I have re-wired a microwave oven because it gives more than adequate 
power - about 3600 volts pulsed DC current - to make batches very 
quickly. I use a  fine, 1 oz silver wafer rolled-out to 5.25 
inches long and 1.25 wide for the electrode. This size for the high 
current allows reduced power DENSITY. The electrodes are spaced 
parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 inches apart, the water 
giving ample RESISTANCE to the current. There is no current-limiting 
needed and all the microwave's safeties still work. It won't operate 
with the door open.


There are 2 insulated wires going to the magnetron. When you 
disconnect the magnetron (impeller) you'll only be using the heavier 
(main) wire from the capacitor; the silver electrode in the jar of CS 
you'e brewing usually goes to chassis ground and the wire electrode, 
which can be copper or even iron, goes to the main capacitor wire. If 
you're not running 120 volts the wiring inside may be a bit different.


I'm not an electrician but I found bypassing the magnetron remarkably 
easy to do. Get someone a bit adept at the job and make sure (s)he 
bleeds the capacitor, which contains LETHAL VOLTAGE. Space the 
electrodes parallel by making holes in a plastic yogurt lid for the 
top and plastic paddle with holes the same distance apart at the 
bottom; at that voltage you have to ensure the electrodes never touch. 
Using an awl or a nail, bash a hole through the light perforations in 
the box cavity and thread the wire through from the CS maker in the 
oven cavity to the feed circuit.


Make sure the wire is short enough to make it impossible for some goof 
to operate the unit with the electrodes outside the box!


(Hint: the smaller microwave ovens can be put on their side so you can 
get a decent sized jar inside)


The first CS maker done this way will take perhaps an hour, the rest, 
20 minutes, and makes the old (free?) microwave into a much more noble 
device than it was even when it was new. The safeties and timer still 
work and again, it only operates when the door is shut. Total cost, a 
bit of high-voltage wire and the one-ounce rolled-out silver ingot, is 
under about $40 CDN, and I used expensive copper-core spark plug wires 
for the high-voltage part.


The CS remains clear (not yellow, not cloudy) for many months unless 
it's somehow 

[Biofuel] Compost, Tree Buds and Rose Hips

2007-02-01 Thread robert and benita rabello
The muscles in my back, shoulders and forearms ache in a satisfying 
way.  I've been shoveling barn litter and spreading compost from last 
year into my raised garden beds.  It's a little cold outside with the 
arctic outflow winds sweeping down from the Cascades in the east, but it 
feels good to work and I can see that my earthworm allies have been VERY 
busy in the compost pile over the winter.  The noisome equine manure I 
picked up from the beautiful, elderly woman in Yarrow has transformed 
into dark, crumbly material that almost looks like soil.  I dug two 
wheelbarrow loads of this into the northernmost (and least productive) 
of my garden beds.


Most of my effort in the past couple of weeks has centered upon loading 
my truck with barn litter at the nearby cattle auction house.  It's been 
cold enough for ice to form and prevent me from getting the Ranger near 
enough to shovel the composted litter directly into its cargo box, so 
I've taken my wheelbarrow and loaded it, so I can park my truck in a 
place that allows me to get out without getting stuck.  (I've been stuck 
there TWICE this month . . . )  Despite the cold, once I dig into the 
pile it steams vigorously, and the material I'm collecting is very dark 
and aromatic.  Thus far, I have taken five loads home.


Our trees are covered in many buds already.  I'm hoping that the weather 
will stay cold so that they don't blossom early and suffer if we get a 
late frost.  This will be year number 4 of compost remediation, so I'm 
optimistic that the trees will have settled in and I won't have the pest 
infestation / fruit dropping that has plagued my fruit tree experience 
thus far.


This morning I noticed that several of the rose plants we picked up from 
someone's discard pile (these were left at the side of the road with a 
sign that said: Free Plants) have bright red / orange fruit on them 
right now.  I THINK these are rose hips, but I'm not certain because 
I've never seen them before.  If they are, they should be full of 
vitamin C.  Does anyone know how to prepare rose hips for human consumption?


Thanks!

robert luis rabello
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The Long Journey
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http://www.newadventure.ca

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[Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread darryl
I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev  
Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.   
It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater  
had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end  
racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came  
on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and  
shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil  
pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized  
(the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a  
lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for  
years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the  
value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is  
approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made  
it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the church  
on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks  
that's funny.)

I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has  
anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a  
warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM  
engines of this vintage.

The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid  
for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the  
times it was used.

I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to  
choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There  
are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range  
(up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.  
  I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and  
carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction material).  
  Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in  
terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and  
reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I  
do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other  
thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,  
and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread Paul S Cantrell

Daryl,
I say fix it.

If you are willing to pay the amount to fix it to get another truck just
like it...why not fix the one you have?

You already HAVE it and you already know its quirks.  Availability of diesel
vehicles is below demand.

Unless there is more that is wrong with it?

On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev
Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.
It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater
had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end
racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came
on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and
shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil
pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized
(the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a
lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for
years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the
value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is
approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made
it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the church
on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks
that's funny.)

I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has
anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a
warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM
engines of this vintage.

The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid
for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the
times it was used.

I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to
choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There
are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range
(up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.
  I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and
carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction material).
  Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in
terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and
reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I
do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other
thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,
and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread Kurt Nolte
I'm with Paul here. GM 6.2 diesels are pretty common beasts in the 
diesel market, so parts are easy to find, available, yadda yadda... 
heck, you can probably get a fresh rebuilt 6.2 engine for the truck for 
what you'd be looking at in your price range for a truck. Or maybe even 
a 6.5, just make sure you don't get the one with the rudimentary computer...

-Kurt

Paul S Cantrell wrote:
 Daryl,
 I say fix it.

 If you are willing to pay the amount to fix it to get another truck 
 just like it...why not fix the one you have?

 You already HAVE it and you already know its quirks.  Availability of 
 diesel vehicles is below demand.

 Unless there is more that is wrong with it?

 On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev
 Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.
 It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater
 had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end
 racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came
 on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and
 shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

 Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil
 pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not
 seized
 (the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a
 lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for
 years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the
 value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is
 approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

 Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made
 it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the
 church
 on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks
 that's funny.)

 I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has
 anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a
 warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM
 engines of this vintage.

 The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid
 for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the
 times it was used.

 I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to
 choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There
 are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range
 (up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.
   I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and
 carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction
 material).
   Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in
 terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and
 reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I
 do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other
 thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,
 and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

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Re: [Biofuel] Compost, Tree Buds and Rose Hips

2007-02-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
Not knowing the pesticide history of said rose hips - maybe no?
   
  Kirk

robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The muscles in my back, shoulders and forearms ache in a satisfying way.  
I've been shoveling barn litter and spreading compost from last year into my 
raised garden beds.  It's a little cold outside with the arctic outflow winds 
sweeping down from the Cascades in the east, but it feels good to work and I 
can see that my earthworm allies have been VERY busy in the compost pile over 
the winter.  The noisome equine manure I picked up from the beautiful, elderly 
woman in Yarrow has transformed into dark, crumbly material that almost looks 
like soil.  I dug two wheelbarrow loads of this into the northernmost (and 
least productive) of my garden beds.

Most of my effort in the past couple of weeks has centered upon loading my 
truck with barn litter at the nearby cattle auction house.  It's been cold 
enough for ice to form and prevent me from getting the Ranger near enough to 
shovel the composted litter directly into its cargo box, so I've taken my 
wheelbarrow and loaded it, so I can park my truck in a place that allows me to 
get out without getting stuck.  (I've been stuck there TWICE this month . . . ) 
 Despite the cold, once I dig into the pile it steams vigorously, and the 
material I'm collecting is very dark and aromatic.  Thus far, I have taken five 
loads home.

Our trees are covered in many buds already.  I'm hoping that the weather will 
stay cold so that they don't blossom early and suffer if we get a late frost.  
This will be year number 4 of compost remediation, so I'm optimistic that the 
trees will have settled in and I won't have the pest infestation / fruit 
dropping that has plagued my fruit tree experience thus far.

This morning I noticed that several of the rose plants we picked up from 
someone's discard pile (these were left at the side of the road with a sign 
that said: Free Plants) have bright red / orange fruit on them right now.  I 
THINK these are rose hips, but I'm not certain because I've never seen them 
before.  If they are, they should be full of vitamin C.  Does anyone know how 
to prepare rose hips for human consumption?

Thanks!

robert luis rabello  The Edge of Justice  The Long Journey  New Adventure 
for Your Mind  http://www.newadventure.caRanger Supercharger Project Page  
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread robert and benita rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev  
Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.   
It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater  
had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end  
racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came  
on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and  
shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil  
pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized  
(the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a  
lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for  
years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the  
value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is  
approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.
  


I would rebuild it and turbocharge it if I were you.  As long as the 
engine didn't overheat (it sounds like it didn't), you'll probably just 
be dealing with cylinder bore and bearing issues.  Put in some lower 
compression pistons (like 18:1 or so) and a turbocharger when you do the 
rebuild.  Financially, you're better off doing that than in buying 
something new, and if you get another used truck who can say whether or 
not the same thing will happen down the road.  The really expensive 
stuff on a diesel involves the fuel pump.  (Although I kinda like the 
Roosa Master fuel pump, it's not an ideal pump for biodiesel.)  I'm 
confident you can do the rebuild for less money than you'd spend 
replacing the truck outright, Darryl.

I'm still driving my 1993 Ranger . . .  I don't think I'm going to 
buy another truck until Toyota comes out with a hybrid . . .

robert luis rabello
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[Biofuel] On Meth

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
So I've collected most of the bits to try adding methanol injection to 
my Golf TDi.  I've bored a hole in the manifold and added an injection 
nozzle.  First I've got to insttal a boost gauge to keep an eye on boost 
pressure, but the nozzle I got has two ports so one of them will serve 
for a boost gauge.  I also picked up a GM fuel pump which I plan to drop 
into the windshield washer tank which will be my methanol/water 
reservoir.  I still have a few parts to pick up.  Some kind of small 
inline filter. A check valve needs to go in the delivery line to stop 
the boost air from bubbling back through the tank when the pump is not 
running, and I need an adjustable pressure switch to sense boost 
pressure at the point I wish for the methanol to come on. This switch 
will be series connected with a floor mounted push switch which will sit 
under the accelerator pedal and an arming switch on the dash to disable 
the whole system when desired, like when the washer tank runs low.  
Sweet that the car has a low level indication light for washer fluid.  I 
am even considering having a second pressure switch set for a higher 
boost pressure which could short out some diodes in the circuit that 
normally would lower the voltage applied to the pump motor.  Then when 
the higher boost level is reached the pump would speed up and deliver a 
suitably higher methanol flow to the intake manifold.  I have a needle 
valve for the delivery line and I plan to adjust it and the pump 
voltage(s) by trial and error. Normally the methanol will not come on, 
and the car will be just as always, but when I need to pass or 
accelerate quickly it will be available if I push the pedal all the 
way.  This way also methanol can not come on when I don't want it in 
between shifts for example or when RPM's are too low and there is 
insufficient boost to warrant more fuel.  I'm not sure how the ECU is 
going to react to all this.  For sure the intake air is going to be very 
cold after vaporizing a bunch of methanol and this is all downstream of 
the air flow sensor so the ECU doesn't know about it, but then on the 
other hand if the air densifies then the compressor should unload and 
just make up the slack so the airflow sensor should still sense more 
flow right? Right?
I hope to get rolling with it in the next few days so I'll keep you 
posted on what I learn.(pun)  Sure will be sweet to be using some of the 
waste stream from the BD process finally! :)

Joe


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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
Hi Darryl;

A friend of mine just imported a mitsubishi delica.  Looks like an 
interesting vehicle and can be had for a good price. Lots of used ones 
coming out of Japan.  Right hand drive of course but that adds to the 
essential coolness factor of the vehicle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Delica

Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev  
Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.   
It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater  
had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end  
racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came  
on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and  
shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil  
pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized  
(the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a  
lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for  
years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the  
value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is  
approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made  
it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the church  
on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks  
that's funny.)

I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has  
anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a  
warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM  
engines of this vintage.

The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid  
for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the  
times it was used.

I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to  
choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There  
are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range  
(up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.  
  I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and  
carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction material).  
  Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in  
terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and  
reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I  
do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other  
thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,  
and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Street
On the other hand the carbon economy of importing a vehicle rather sux.  
Never mind.

Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev  
Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.   
It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater  
had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end  
racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came  
on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and  
shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil  
pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized  
(the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a  
lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for  
years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the  
value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is  
approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made  
it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the church  
on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks  
that's funny.)

I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has  
anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a  
warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM  
engines of this vintage.

The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid  
for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the  
times it was used.

I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to  
choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There  
are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range  
(up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.  
  I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and  
carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction material).  
  Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in  
terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and  
reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I  
do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other  
thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,  
and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

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Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread darryl
The current truck has a number of quirks, most of which we find  
annoying.  Additional repairs coming soon include replacing the  
windshield and radio, and a few of the dash controls have broken knobs  
or levers.  I have my suspicions about at least one of the rear shock  
absorbers.

I have just found a local listing for a 1991 GMC (sister vehicle) with  
a 6.2 litre diesel in it that is priced less than the rebuild  
estimate.  (That's new since I posted my message).  300,000 km, just a  
bit more than what the 1990 Cheyenne had on it.  Diesels are rare  
here.  So, I'm real tempted to go look at this one, and if all goes  
well, strip out the good bits from the current truck to keep for  
spares (battteries, tires, hour meter, starter motor - new at Xmas,  
radiator - new last summer).  Tires may be too big for the 1/2 ton.  I  
have maintained the current truck on the basis it would be with us for  
a long time, so this event after a couple of recent expensive repairs  
is a real morale killer. Don't want to get my hopes up, but the GMC  
looks like what I really wanted 2-3 years ago.  It's not a 3/4 ton  
(current one is), just the regular 1/2 ton.  The lower bed might be  
advantageous as well - lifting patio stones the extra 3-4 inches due  
to the taller 3/4 ton suspension got tired fast.

Paul and Kurt, thanks for the advice.  The rebuild is not out of the  
question.  Other comments or questions are welcome.

I liked the 6.2 litre.  I did a lot of research before buying the  
first truck with the 6.2 based on what I learned, and stayed away from  
the 6.5.

Darryl

Quoting Kurt Nolte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm with Paul here. GM 6.2 diesels are pretty common beasts in the
 diesel market, so parts are easy to find, available, yadda yadda...
 heck, you can probably get a fresh rebuilt 6.2 engine for the truck for
 what you'd be looking at in your price range for a truck. Or maybe even
 a 6.5, just make sure you don't get the one with the rudimentary computer...

 -Kurt

 Paul S Cantrell wrote:
 Daryl,
 I say fix it.

 If you are willing to pay the amount to fix it to get another truck
 just like it...why not fix the one you have?

 You already HAVE it and you already know its quirks.  Availability of
 diesel vehicles is below demand.

 Unless there is more that is wrong with it?

 On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev
 Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.
 It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater
 had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end
 racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came
 on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and
 shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

 Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil
 pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not
 seized
 (the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a
 lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for
 years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the
 value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is
 approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

 Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made
 it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the
 church
 on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks
 that's funny.)

 I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has
 anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a
 warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM
 engines of this vintage.

 The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid
 for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the
 times it was used.

 I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to
 choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There
 are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range
 (up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.
   I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and
 carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction
 material).
   Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in
 terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and
 reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I
 do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other
 thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,
 and I don't have the luxury of that much time 

Re: [Biofuel] Compost, Tree Buds and Rose Hips

2007-02-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall




This morning I noticed that several of the rose plants we picked up from
someone's discard pile (these were left at the side of the road with a sign
that said: Free Plants) have bright red / orange fruit on them right now.
I THINK these are rose hips, but I'm not certain because I've never seen
them before.  If they are, they should be full of vitamin C.  Does anyone
know how to prepare rose hips for human consumption?



Yup, those are the rose hips.  I just eat them straight (usually because I
find them hiking through the woods).  But they are sort of gritty and FULL
of seeds.  Not very easy to eat usually.   I would crush them up, cook
lightly, and strain through cheesecloth -- just like initial processing for
any sort of seedy fruit.  After that you could make jelly, tea, whatever
from the liquid.

Z
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Re: [Biofuel] US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Katie
yes but to have a spread spectrum transmitter with the same kind of range as a 
standard single carrier would take either a lot more repeaters- which means 
more vulnerable infrastructure- or a huge honkin transmitter which means it is 
a) a bigger target, and b) dependent on a heavy power supply. and as far as 
messing with the satellites was concerned i meant hijacking an link just as you 
mentioned (nothing like using their own gear against them...).
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US plans to 'fight the net' revealed


  Are you joking?  The military has no need of the web for thier com needs.  
They have all manner of wireless networks of their own.  Most of it is spread 
spectrum stuff.  The also have ELF for communicating with subs clandestinely 
(which is slow) or can use a blue green laser from a satelite to get a message 
in quickly when they are not concerned about revealing the sub's location.  If 
the s*** hits the fan the entire EM spectrum will be filled with jamming 
signals but spread spectrum and coherent techniques are somewhat robust against 
these tactics.  Satelites are surprisingly difficult albeit vulnerable targets 
although not impossible it takes a great deal of money and commitment to take 
one out. Uplinks are a different story tho...

  Joe

  Jason Katie wrote:

so... if they eliminate the entire network that means they would only have 
satellite communications, and i doubt satellites are that terribly difficult 
to disrupt either so hackers could play games with the fed directly and 
cause some serious damage. hummm why does this not make any sense to me? 
which is worse: having people speak against you with impunity, or having 
those same people really pissed off and screwing with your only means of 
communication?

just wondering...
jason
- Original Message - 
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] US plans to 'fight the net' revealed


  ... Meanwhile...
Rumsfeld is still running the War Department
Sunday, 28 January 2007
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/175/1/

-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm
Friday, 27 January 2006, 18:05 GMT

US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

By Adam Brookes
BBC Pentagon correspondent

A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US
military's plans for information operations - from psychological
operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks.

Report: Information Operations Roadmap:[PDF File]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/27_01_06_psyops.pdf

Bloggers beware.

As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the
military opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies
and the modern media offer.

From influencing public opinion through new media to designing
computer network attack weapons, the US military is learning to
fight an electronic war.

The declassified document is called Information Operations Roadmap.
It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington
University using the Freedom of Information Act.

Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense,
Donald Rumsfeld, signed it.

The roadmap calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's
ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare.
And, in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed
forces should think about this new, virtual warfare.

The document says that information is critical to military success.
Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational
importance.

Propaganda

The operations described in the document include a surprising range
of military activities: public affairs officers who brief
journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate
the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack
specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks.

All these are engaged in information operations.

Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its
acknowledgement that information put out as part of the military's
psychological operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the
computer and television screens of ordinary Americans.

Information intended for foreign audiences, including public
diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic
audience, it reads.

Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much
larger audiences, including the American public, it goes on.

The document's authors acknowledge that American news media should
not unwittingly broadcast military propaganda. Specific boundaries
should be established, they write. But they don't seem to explain
how.

In this day and age it is impossible to prevent stories that are fed
abroad as part of psychological operations propaganda from blowing
back into the 

Re: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Katie
buy the box truck, and shove the box off it. replace that with a 3x12 
plank deck and some side rails. voila - instant straight truck.
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] She's Dead, Jim


I was riding in the passenger seat as my son was driving my 1990 Chev
 Cheyenne on Tuesday morning.  It has the GM 6.2 litre diesel engine.
 It was a cold day (-22 C), but the truck started easily (block heater
 had been used).  We were about 4 km out when I heard a new top end
 racket as he accelerated out of a curve.  The check gauges light came
 on, and the oil pressure was reading zero.  I had him pull over and
 shut down, hoping we were quick enough to avoid damage.

 Yesterday, I got the preliminary report from the mechanic.  The oil
 pump failed, so the engine was not being lubricated.  It is not seized
 (the engine never got up to temperature on the trip), but there are a
 lot of ugly noises, even at idle.  I trust this shop, and have for
 years.  They figure a bottom-end rebuild is in order, but question the
 value of proceeding on an 18-year-old truck.  The rebuild estimate is
 approximately what I paid for the truck a year and a half ago.

 Ironically, this occurred while I was on my way to a funeral.  (I made
 it, but I was late.  The tow truck driver dropped us off at the church
 on the way to the garage.  We're on a first name basis.  My son thinks
 that's funny.)

 I have been running B20 for the past year.  I don't think that has
 anything to do with the oil pump going.  Just posting this as a
 warning to others that this is something to watch out for in the GM
 engines of this vintage.

 The truck doesn't get a lot of use, as a rule, but I figure it paid
 for itself in the time I had it.  It carried and pulled a lot in the
 times it was used.

 I have started looking for a replacement, but there isn't much to
 choose from in the low end of the market in terms of diesels.  There
 are some large cube vans available at the top end of my price range
 (up to Cdn$4500), but they would present an issue in terms of parking.
  I need something that can pull up to 3500 pounds (Class 2), and
 carry ugly cargo (compost, scrap metal, used construction material).
  Pretty doesn't matter - in fact ugly has proven advantageous in
 terms or reducing requests to borrow the last vehicle.  Robust and
 reliable does matter, as others drive the vehicle more often than I
 do.  I'm thinking either pickup truck or full-size van.  Any other
 thoughts?  It took me more than a year to find a diesel the last time,
 and I don't have the luxury of that much time now.  Suggestions?

 --
 Darryl McMahon
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