[Biofuel] Opportunity - my diesel truck

[Darryl McMahon]

If anyone wants a diesel pick-up truck project at a bargain price, 
here's the deal.

First, the catches:
1) The engine likely needs to be rebuilt or replaced.  It's a GM 6.2 
litre diesel - presumably original with the truck - 1990 model year.
2) The windshield has a crack on the passenger side that will likely 
pass a safety inspection now, but will need replacement before long.
3) It was a work truck, and it shows.  It won't win any beauty contests.
4) It is located in Ottawa, Ontario.  If you want it, you come get it.
5) The price is best offer over $150 Cdn.  (I can get that donating it 
to the local fire department to use it for practice.)  It's a limited 
time offer, dictated by the patience of my mechanic (where the vehicle 
is parked).

I don't have the time, space or inclination to take on another project 
just now.  Other things are keeping me busy already (e.g., my recent 
article on The Oil Drum - http://canada.theoildrum.com/node/2295).  I 
would prefer that the truck go to someone else that would return the 
truck to operation and use biodiesel (at least blend) in it.

The truck is a 1990 Chev Cheyenne 2500 (3/4-ton), long-box with regular 
cab.  It was in regular operation until January 29, when it started 
making the ugly noise (preliminary diagnosis: oil pump failed).  Per 
mechanic, the engine still rolls and starts, but makes unpleasant 
noises.  Still has bedliner in the box.

If anyone is interested, e-mail me off-list.  I'll be making the same 
offer via a couple of other channels.

I have acquired a 1998 Safari van as the replacement.  It cost less than 
the estimate for the engine removal/rebuild/reinstall.  The Safari 
already has received its first fill of E10.  Upon reflection, our family 
concluded that the van makes more sense for our uses than the pickup 
truck did (van seats seven, or can take a load of construction material, 
or variations in between, and is rated to tow up to 6,000 pounds).

Thanks to those that offered advice on how to proceed with the truck.  I 
hope that advice will be heeded by a future owner.

Sadly, diesel passenger vans are even harder to find than diesel pickups 
around here.  So, I think that's the end of my biodiesel adventures for 
a while.  However, that doesn't mean I will be leaving the list anytime 
soon.  Ethanol is a trickier thing to experiment with in Canada - our 
federal government does not look kindly on home brewers of ethanol. 
(The local outlet for E85 does not encourage its use in anything but 
designated flex-fuel vehicles.)  But to me, the biofuel list is much 
more about my continuing education than just a narrow conception of 
liquid biofuels.

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[Biofuel] Power of Nightmares - BBC

[Kirk McLoren]

http://www.wanttoknow.info/powerofnightmares
   
  Google video also has all 3 parts produced by the BBC.
   
  politics and manipulation and lies lies lies. What a world.
  These manipulators need to be held responsible.
   

 
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap

[Darryl McMahon]

Thanks Kirk.  If time permits, I can see playing around with something 
for my own benefit.  I expect this is much like the brains of a setback 
thermostat.  I have one of those that runs on a single AA battery, and 
will go for up to two years on a single battery - 7x24.  That keeps 
accurate time to within a minute in six months.  (I have not let it go 
longer than that due to daylight saving time changes.)

However, I would prefer to find something ready to go "out of the box" 
with CSA or UL certification.  That way I can spread the message to 
others with a concrete example that they can use.

Darryl

Kirk McLoren wrote:
> There are AA battery operated timer chips. Use the "alarm" output to a 
> timer circuit. The clck could "alarm" at midnight and a 6 hour timer 
> enable load to 6AM.
> over 15 minutes and you should use a counter/digital timer as analogs 
> looking at long integration times get a bit unreliable.
>  
> Kirk
> 
> */Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> 
> Anyone got a spec on how much power these units draw in order to
> maintain their own clock? It matters.
> 
> Let's suppose it draws 6 watts. That's not unreasonable for a
> mass-production LED clock, timer microprocessor that assumes cheap AC
> power is available. That doesn't include whatever power may be consumed
> to turn the controlled circuit on, and keep it on (assuming a solid
> state relay). In a year, that's 53 kWh (6 watts x 24 hours x 365 days /
> 1000) of new phantom load.
> 
> A correspondent has measured the draw on a common type of clock
> timer he
> has used - 15 watts continuous draw. That's 10 kWh a month, which would
> make a noticable difference in our household electrical consumption.
> Virtually none of these types of devices provide the power consumption
> spec in their advertising.
> 
> So, it comes down to what it will be controlling before we know if it
> provides a net benefit. (Also it appears this unit does not provide the
> standard AC plug and outlet, so those would have to be added, unless
> this will be hard wired into the device power supply wiring).
> 
> Come summer, I will likely be looking for an outdoor-rated timer which
> will handle 15 amps and provide both a turn-on and turn-off time. This
> is to control the charger on my electric car once time-of-use
> (interval)
> pricing becomes a reality here (not holding my breath). (While my
> daughter continues to reside here, I would also like to find something
> of that sort which would control the electric dryer so it could only
> function at off-peak times. That's a 240-volt, high-current load.)
> 
> Darryl
> 
> Kirk McLoren wrote:
>  > rated 10 amperes and has displayed clock
>  > Kirk
>  >
>  > */Tony /* wrote:
>  >
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > From: "Tony"
>  > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -
>  > Subject: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap
>  >
>  > Might be useful for various projects around the LittleHouse. Although
>  > a phantom load these timers might have redeeming values anyway.
>  >
>  > Anyone care to toss around any ideas?
>  >
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap

[Kirk McLoren]

There are AA battery operated timer chips. Use the "alarm" output to a timer 
circuit. The clck could "alarm" at midnight and a 6 hour timer enable load to 
6AM.
  over 15 minutes and you should use a counter/digital timer as analogs looking 
at long integration times get a bit unreliable.
   
  Kirk

Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Anyone got a spec on how much power these units draw in order to 
maintain their own clock? It matters.

Let's suppose it draws 6 watts. That's not unreasonable for a 
mass-production LED clock, timer microprocessor that assumes cheap AC 
power is available. That doesn't include whatever power may be consumed 
to turn the controlled circuit on, and keep it on (assuming a solid 
state relay). In a year, that's 53 kWh (6 watts x 24 hours x 365 days / 
1000) of new phantom load.

A correspondent has measured the draw on a common type of clock timer he 
has used - 15 watts continuous draw. That's 10 kWh a month, which would 
make a noticable difference in our household electrical consumption. 
Virtually none of these types of devices provide the power consumption 
spec in their advertising.

So, it comes down to what it will be controlling before we know if it 
provides a net benefit. (Also it appears this unit does not provide the 
standard AC plug and outlet, so those would have to be added, unless 
this will be hard wired into the device power supply wiring).

Come summer, I will likely be looking for an outdoor-rated timer which 
will handle 15 amps and provide both a turn-on and turn-off time. This 
is to control the charger on my electric car once time-of-use (interval) 
pricing becomes a reality here (not holding my breath). (While my 
daughter continues to reside here, I would also like to find something 
of that sort which would control the electric dryer so it could only 
function at off-peak times. That's a 240-volt, high-current load.)

Darryl

Kirk McLoren wrote:
> rated 10 amperes and has displayed clock
> Kirk
> 
> */Tony /* wrote:
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Tony" 
> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -
> Subject: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap
> 
> Might be useful for various projects around the LittleHouse. Although
> a phantom load these timers might have redeeming values anyway.
> 
> Anyone care to toss around any ideas?
> 
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap

[Darryl McMahon]

Anyone got a spec on how much power these units draw in order to 
maintain their own clock?  It matters.

Let's suppose it draws 6 watts.  That's not unreasonable for a 
mass-production LED clock, timer microprocessor that assumes cheap AC 
power is available.  That doesn't include whatever power may be consumed 
to turn the controlled circuit on, and keep it on (assuming a solid 
state relay).  In a year, that's 53 kWh (6 watts x 24 hours x 365 days / 
1000) of new phantom load.

A correspondent has measured the draw on a common type of clock timer he 
has used - 15 watts continuous draw.  That's 10 kWh a month, which would 
make a noticable difference in our household electrical consumption. 
Virtually none of these types of devices provide the power consumption 
spec in their advertising.

So, it comes down to what it will be controlling before we know if it 
provides a net benefit.  (Also it appears this unit does not provide the 
standard AC plug and outlet, so those would have to be added, unless 
this will be hard wired into the device power supply wiring).

Come summer, I will likely be looking for an outdoor-rated timer which 
will handle 15 amps and provide both a turn-on and turn-off time.  This 
is to control the charger on my electric car once time-of-use (interval) 
pricing becomes a reality here (not holding my breath).  (While my 
daughter continues to reside here, I would also like to find something 
of that sort which would control the electric dryer so it could only 
function at off-peak times.  That's a 240-volt, high-current load.)

Darryl

Kirk McLoren wrote:
> rated 10 amperes and has displayed clock
> Kirk
> 
> */Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -
> Subject: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap
> 
> Might be useful for various projects around the LittleHouse. Although
> a phantom load these timers might have redeeming values anyway.
> 
> Anyone care to toss around any ideas?
> 
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[Biofuel] Fwd: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap

[Kirk McLoren]

rated 10 amperes and has displayed clock
  Kirk

Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:23:20 -
Subject: [LittleHouses] Spiffy little digital timers - cheap

Might be useful for various projects around the LittleHouse. Although
a phantom load these timers might have redeeming values anyway.

Anyone care to toss around any ideas?

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[Biofuel] free book re fermentation

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Re: [Biofuel] Recent Moore Correspondence

[Keith Addison]

Good on you Mike, keep at 'em!

Illegitimi non carborundum.

Regards

Keith



>Hi folks...I'm sending along my most recent correspondence to my 
>U.S. House Rep, Dennis Moore.  My State Senator (Francisco) and 
>State House Rep (Davis) also dance around this language.  Why? 
>Dennis voted against the original version of Real ID, HR418, 
>apparently along party lines, which is interesting, considering the 
>stereotyped values of the Republican (less gov't) and Democratic 
>(more gov't) parties.  HR 418 was a stand alone bill, so you would 
>think it would have been voted down in the House (by the Repubs, 
>seeing more gov't), but it passed, as I've said, mostly along party 
>lines.  Mike PS As a side note, if you ever decide to write your 
>Reps using the email service that is part of their websites, copy 
>your email to a Word doc before submitting if you want a copy, 
>unless of course there is provision for you to receive a copy of 
>what you send, which I suspect there usually is not.  Also, do same 
>with any notes attached before forwarding to other email 
>addresses.  The websites make no provision for screwing up and being 
>able to back up to correct your mistake; you just simply lose 
>whatever you were trying to send and to whomever you were trying to 
>send it.  Surely all these hoops are because we are in the midst of 
>basketball season, correct??? Otherwise, contacting our Reps is 
>utterly user-friendly, correct Excuse me while I go puke.
>
>
>Dear Congressman Moore, Thank you for recent correspondence 
>regarding PL109-13, the Real ID Act. From the beginning of my 
>correspondence with your office expressing my concerns regarding 
>Real ID, I have focused upon section 201(3), specifically the 
>wording "any other purposes that the Secretary [of Homeland 
>Security] shall determine." This language alone, I believe, is 
>grounds for Repeal. And yet, your office, for some reason, will not 
>address this issue. Why? The closest your office has come to 
>addressing it, which is no address at all, is on page 2 of February 
>15 correspondence, next to last paragraph. This paragraph merely 
>reiterates what I already know reading PL109-13.
>
>So, to date, in answer to my concerns and questions regarding the 
>open-ended provision of the "official purpose" of Real ID, I have 
>received from your office: 1) the CRS Report to Congress: 
>Immigration: Analysis of Major Provisions of the REAL ID Act of 
>2005, which misses completely an analysis of THE major provision of 
>Real ID--the open-ended provision of the official purpose; 2) a copy 
>of S.4117 and present non-action regarding S.4117, which I did NOT 
>request, as stated on the note attached to this copy; and 3) the 
>correspondence of February 15, which is basically a restatement of 
>PL109-13.
>
>Will your office please focus upon section 201(3) of P.L. 109-13 and 
>either: 1) tell me what steps you are taking to either: a) revise 
>this language to specific purposes; or b) strike the language 
>completely (ie Repeal Real ID and help Senator Akaka understand that 
>he has no business waiting for regulations to come from the 
>Secretary of Homeland Security, that he should go ahead with his 
>promotion of S.4117 if for no other reason than the open-ended 
>provision of section 201[3]); OR 2) tell me how the wording of 
>section 201(3)can not be open-ended and why I have no need to be 
>concerned?


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Re: [Biofuel] Global warming: enough to make you sick

[Zeke Yewdall]

The "but we did not expect this to happen so soon" argument could be
reworded as "I thought that I could avoid dealing with this problem I've
caused, and didn't really care that my children and grandchildren would be
screwed"   Not a very strong argument, it seems to me.

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A statement you keep seeing in stories about global warming:

>"But we did not expect this to happen so soon," he said.

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Global warming: enough to make you sick

Rising temperatures are redistributing bacteria, insects and plants,
exposing people to diseases they'd never encountered before.

By Jia-Rui Chong, Times Staff Writer
February 25, 2007

CORDOVA, ALASKA - Oysterman Jim Aguiar had never had to deal with the
bacterium Vibrio parahaemolyticus in his 25 years working the frigid
waters of Prince William Sound.

The dangerous microbe infected seafood in warmer waters, like the
Gulf of Mexico. Alaska was way too cold.

But the sound was gradually warming. By summer 2004, the temperature
had risen just enough to poke above the crucial 59-degree mark.
Cruise ship passengers who had eaten local oysters were soon coming
down with diarrhea, cramping and vomiting - the first cases of Vibrio
food poisoning in Alaska that anyone could remember.

"We were slapped from left field," said Aguiar, who shut down his
oyster farm that year along with a few others.

As scientists later determined, the culprit was not just the
bacterium, but the warming that allowed it to proliferate.

"This was probably the best example to date of how global climate
change is changing the importation of infectious diseases," said Dr.
Joe McLaughlin, acting chief of epidemiology at the Alaska Division
of Public Health, who published a study on the outbreak.

The spread of human disease has become one of the most worrisome
subplots in the story of global warming. Incremental temperature
changes have begun to redraw the distribution of bacteria, insects
and plants, exposing new populations to diseases that they have never
seen before.

A report from the World Health Organization estimated that in 2000
about 154,000 deaths around the world could be attributed to disease
outbreaks and other conditions sparked by climate change.

The temperature change has been small, about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit
over the last 150 years, but it has been enough to alter disease
patterns across the globe.

In Sweden, fewer winter days below 10 degrees and more summer days
above 50 degrees have encouraged the northward movement of ticks,
which has coincided with an increase in cases of tick-borne
encephalitis since the 1980s.

Researchers have found that poison ivy has grown more potent and lush
because of increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

In Africa, mosquitoes have been slowly inching up the slopes around
Mt. Kenya, bringing malaria to high villages that had never been
exposed before.

"It's going to get very warm," said Andrew Githeko, a vector
biologist who heads the Climate and Human Health Research Unit at the
Kenya Medical Research Institute in Kisumu. "That's going to mean a
huge difference to malaria."

Githeko, 49, grew up in the central highlands in a tiny village near
the town of Karatina, about 5,700 feet above sea level.

His home was different from most of Africa. The air was damp and
chilly. On clear days, he could see the glaciers on Mt. Kenya, the
second-highest peak in Africa at 17,058 feet.

When he was a child, lowland diseases like malaria were unknown in
Karatina. But perhaps 10 years ago, a smattering of cases began to
appear.

He had long ago left his home to study the great plagues of Africa -
Rift Valley fever, malaria, cholera and others. The appearance of
malaria in the highlands, however, was a mystery worth returning home
for.

Githeko dispatched a colleague to collect mosquito larvae in puddles
and streams around Mt. Kenya, some as high as 6,300 feet. Tests later
identified some of the mosquitoes as Anopheles arabiensis, one of the
species that carry malaria.

Githeko's findings, published in 2006, marked the highest A.
arabiensis breeding site ever recorded in Kenya and was the first
published report of malaria infections in the central highlands, he
said.

He knew by watching Mt. Kenya's gradually disappearing glaciers that
his world was warming, and that lowland diseases would eventually
work their way higher. "But we did not expect this to happen so
soon," he said.

Githeko's work has been echoed in a small number of studies around the
world.

In 1996, health authorities reported a human case of tick-borne
encephalitis in the Czech village of Borova Lada, elevation 3,000
feet. Until then, the Ixodes rinicus tick, which carries the disease,
had never been seen above 2,600 feet.

The case caught the attention of Milan Daniel, a parasitologist the
Institute for Postgraduate Medical Education 

[Biofuel] Global warming: enough to make you sick

[Keith Addison]

A statement you keep seeing in stories about global warming:

>"But we did not expect this to happen so soon," he said.

-

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-disease25feb25,0,948803,full.story
Los Angeles Times

Global warming: enough to make you sick

Rising temperatures are redistributing bacteria, insects and plants, 
exposing people to diseases they'd never encountered before.

By Jia-Rui Chong, Times Staff Writer
February 25, 2007

CORDOVA, ALASKA - Oysterman Jim Aguiar had never had to deal with the 
bacterium Vibrio parahaemolyticus in his 25 years working the frigid 
waters of Prince William Sound.

The dangerous microbe infected seafood in warmer waters, like the 
Gulf of Mexico. Alaska was way too cold.

But the sound was gradually warming. By summer 2004, the temperature 
had risen just enough to poke above the crucial 59-degree mark. 
Cruise ship passengers who had eaten local oysters were soon coming 
down with diarrhea, cramping and vomiting - the first cases of Vibrio 
food poisoning in Alaska that anyone could remember.

"We were slapped from left field," said Aguiar, who shut down his 
oyster farm that year along with a few others.

As scientists later determined, the culprit was not just the 
bacterium, but the warming that allowed it to proliferate.

"This was probably the best example to date of how global climate 
change is changing the importation of infectious diseases," said Dr. 
Joe McLaughlin, acting chief of epidemiology at the Alaska Division 
of Public Health, who published a study on the outbreak.

The spread of human disease has become one of the most worrisome 
subplots in the story of global warming. Incremental temperature 
changes have begun to redraw the distribution of bacteria, insects 
and plants, exposing new populations to diseases that they have never 
seen before.

A report from the World Health Organization estimated that in 2000 
about 154,000 deaths around the world could be attributed to disease 
outbreaks and other conditions sparked by climate change.

The temperature change has been small, about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit 
over the last 150 years, but it has been enough to alter disease 
patterns across the globe.

In Sweden, fewer winter days below 10 degrees and more summer days 
above 50 degrees have encouraged the northward movement of ticks, 
which has coincided with an increase in cases of tick-borne 
encephalitis since the 1980s.

Researchers have found that poison ivy has grown more potent and lush 
because of increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

In Africa, mosquitoes have been slowly inching up the slopes around 
Mt. Kenya, bringing malaria to high villages that had never been 
exposed before.

"It's going to get very warm," said Andrew Githeko, a vector 
biologist who heads the Climate and Human Health Research Unit at the 
Kenya Medical Research Institute in Kisumu. "That's going to mean a 
huge difference to malaria."

Githeko, 49, grew up in the central highlands in a tiny village near 
the town of Karatina, about 5,700 feet above sea level.

His home was different from most of Africa. The air was damp and 
chilly. On clear days, he could see the glaciers on Mt. Kenya, the 
second-highest peak in Africa at 17,058 feet.

When he was a child, lowland diseases like malaria were unknown in 
Karatina. But perhaps 10 years ago, a smattering of cases began to 
appear.

He had long ago left his home to study the great plagues of Africa - 
Rift Valley fever, malaria, cholera and others. The appearance of 
malaria in the highlands, however, was a mystery worth returning home 
for.

Githeko dispatched a colleague to collect mosquito larvae in puddles 
and streams around Mt. Kenya, some as high as 6,300 feet. Tests later 
identified some of the mosquitoes as Anopheles arabiensis, one of the 
species that carry malaria.

Githeko's findings, published in 2006, marked the highest A. 
arabiensis breeding site ever recorded in Kenya and was the first 
published report of malaria infections in the central highlands, he 
said.

He knew by watching Mt. Kenya's gradually disappearing glaciers that 
his world was warming, and that lowland diseases would eventually 
work their way higher. "But we did not expect this to happen so 
soon," he said.

Githeko's work has been echoed in a small number of studies around the world.

In 1996, health authorities reported a human case of tick-borne 
encephalitis in the Czech village of Borova Lada, elevation 3,000 
feet. Until then, the Ixodes rinicus tick, which carries the disease, 
had never been seen above 2,600 feet.

The case caught the attention of Milan Daniel, a parasitologist the 
Institute for Postgraduate Medical Education in Prague who has been 
studying the movement of ticks in the Czech Republic for half a 
century.

He scoured the Sumava and Krkonose mountains and found that the ticks 
had migrated as high as 4,100 feet largely because of milder autumns 
over the last two decades, according to a 

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

[Keith Addison]

Hi Frank

>Hi Robert and Keith,
>
>"I know. It happened to me when I was 23 "
>
>It happened to me, too.  I think "it" is exiting the allegorical 
>cave, seeing the truth and not turning away from it.  It then 
>becomes a burden and a responsibility to uphold, but ultimately, the 
>only thing that matters.

Yes, I'd agree with that, it's the only thing that matters.

>"So the gap grew, as there was more and
>more I didn't and couldn't talk about."
>
>Aye, there's the rub!  What no one wants to do is talk about the 
>truth if it undermines the premise by which they justify their 
>beliefs.

The premise being undermined was that blacks are sub-human. In fact 
the black society I was becoming so involved with completely 
redefined for me what it is to be human. I learnt so much from them. 
Then they had to teach me not to hate whites!

Of course the family et al's way of seeing it was that it was me who 
was undermined, not "the truth". Quite true, I was most certainly 
undermined, and I'm most grateful for it.

>Everyone should talk about everything!  I think you just have to 
>endure Robert.  Keep bringing up these controversial points of view 
>with those around you, and soon enough maybe they will sink in. 
>It's lonely being objective, but truth is our highest 
>responsibility.  No Christian could argue that point with you!

This wouldn't apply to Robert's circle, but so many so-called 
Christians are strangers to any truth that's not in their dogma, even 
if it is in their Bible. I think it's quite easy to tell who's a real 
Christian, you can see if they really think that "God is love", and 
if they don't think that they're not real Christians, IMHO. It's not 
only Christians who think God is love though, all great souls do, and 
you find them everywhere. "If we love one another, God dwelleth in 
us, and his love is perfected in us." I think all societies know 
that, deep in their communal hearts.

>Thanks to both of you,

And to you Frank.

Regards

Keith


>Frank


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[Biofuel] Farmer power the key to green advance

[Keith Addison]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6387975.stm
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature |
23 February 2007, 11:42 GMT

Farmer power the key to green advance


VIEWPOINT
Michel Pimbert

Behind several kinds of environmental damage lurks the hand of the 
farmer. The key to better prospects for them and the environment, 
argues Michel Pimbert in the Green Room, is giving them more control 
over what they do.

- It is simply unacceptable to allow over 850 million people go to 
bed hungry in a world that produces more than enough food for all


Farmers and other citizens in various parts of the world are engaging 
in a major effort to change the nature of agriculture.

The key phrase is "food sovereignty"; and this weekend, many of the 
interested parties are gathering for a conference in Mali, one of two 
countries (the other being Bolivia) which have adopted it as their 
overarching policy framework for food and farming.

Food sovereignty is all about ensuring that farmers, rather than 
transnational corporations, are in control of what they farm and how 
they farm it; ensuring too that communities have the right to define 
their own agricultural, pastoral, labour, fishing, food and land 
policies to suit their own ecological, social, economic and cultural 
circumstances.

Why is it needed? From the social point of view, because everyone has 
an unconditional human right to food, and it is simply unacceptable 
to allow over 850 million people go to bed hungry in a world that 
produces more than enough food for all.

On the environmental side, industrial farming damages our planet's 
life support systems in a number of ways:


* it is a major contributor to global warming through intensive use 
of fossil fuels for fertilisers, agrochemicals, production, 
transport, processing, refrigeration and retailing
* agrochemical nutrient pollution causes biological "dead zones" in 
areas as diverse as the Gulf of Mexico, the Baltic Sea and the coasts 
of India and China
* human activity now produces more nitrogen than all natural processes combined
* crop and livestock genetic diversity has been lost through the 
spread of industrial monocultures, reducing resilience in the face of 
climate and other changes

The progress of this growing food sovereignty movement could have 
profound implications for scientific research, politics, trade and 
the twin curses of poverty and environmental degradation.

Towards sustainable agriculture

Within the food sovereignty approach, the environmental ills outlined 
above are avoided by developing production systems that mimic the 
biodiversity levels and functioning of natural ecosystems.



Eco-farming helps poor

These systems seek to combine the modern science of ecology with the 
experiential knowledge of farmers and indigenous peoples.

Combinations of indigenous and modern methods lead to more 
environmentally sustainable agriculture, as well as reducing 
dependence on expensive external inputs, reducing the cost-price 
squeeze and debt trap in which the world's farmers are increasingly 
caught.

Ecological agriculture has been shown to be productive, economic and 
sustainable for farmers, whether their external inputs are low or 
high.

Scientists recently reported that a series of large-scale 
experimental projects around the world using agro-ecological methods 
such as crop rotation, intercropping, natural pest control, use of 
mulches and compost, terracing, nutrient concentration, water 
harvesting and management of micro-environments yielded spectacular 
results.

For example, in southern Brazil, the use of cover crops to increase 
soil fertility and water retention allowed 400,000 farmers to raise 
maize and soybean yields by more than 60%. Farmers earned more as 
beneficial soil biodiversity was regenerated.

Staying in control

Food sovereignty is not against trade and science. But it does argue 
for a fundamental shift away from "business as usual", emphasising 
the need to support domestic markets and small-scale agricultural 
production based on resilient farming systems rich in biological and 
cultural diversity.

Networks of local food systems are favoured because they reduce the 
distance between producers and consumers, limiting food miles and 
enhancing citizen control and democratic decision-making.

Can food sovereignity lead farmers to greener pastures?

Equitable access to land and other resources is vital, because a 
significant cause of hunger and environmental degradation is local 
people's loss of rights to access and control natural resources such 
as land, water, trees and seeds.

This severely reduces their incentive to conserve the environment; 
the displacement of farming peoples from fertile lands to steep, 
rocky slopes, desert margins, and infertile rainforest soils lead to 
more environmental degradation.

Trade and markets must be made to work for people and the 
environment; current trade policies for agriculture are failing the 
environment and leading to