Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread Jesse Frayne
This thread is just so ME!!  

I shop and cook for my neighbourhood, they pick up
their dinners up on the way home from work.  I feed
some single moms, bachelors, a few couples who work
ridiculous hours, a few housebound people
(deliveries).  It's quite a nice community thing too,
since the neighbours come in and sit around.  Organic
and local produce when possible, definitely all
fresh...  recycled containers (sanitizer on the
dishwasher)

Eventually everything will be local.
Jesse

--- Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If one chooses not to keep appliances for cooking or
 storing food, 
 eating out all the time could make sense.  If one
 lives alone, or the 
 schedule means they are seldom at home for meals,
 this could even make 
 financial sense.  No refrigerator, no freezer, no
 stove, no energy bill 
 associated with those activities, no grocery bill,
 no worries about food 
 spoiling.  No need for a kitchen, saves living
 space.  Just skipping the 
 trips for groceries appeals to me, not to mention
 cooking for others 
 with dynamic schedules.
 
 Actually, most dormitories I have experienced are
 based on this premise 
 (no kitchen, all meals taken at food service
 locations of some kind). 
 May apply to other situations as well.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Darryl
 
 Jason Katie wrote:
  
  eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt
 really make sense to me. 
  seems that the benefits of localized food would be
 somewhat diminished 
  when it is produced in large amounts like that,
 because even with the 
  best quality stock, they are still on a time
 budget, and would have to 
  at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely. i
 think good food is 
  best prepared in the home, or at least in a place
 where there isnt such 
  a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they
 are reporting is bad, 
  just a little off kilter.



Jesse Frayne
itsdinner.ca
Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre

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[Biofuel] Warning -- GM Food Linked to Cancer

2007-03-08 Thread D. Mindock
Warning -- GM Food Linked to Cancer



A Russian study has confirmed a link between genetically modified (GM) potatoes 
and cancer in laboratory rats, according to UK Greenpeace activists. The 
results vindicate the research of Dr. Arpad Pusztai, whose work was questioned 
by industry backers. 

The research was conducted in 1998 by the Institute of Nutrition of the Russian 
Academy, but was suppressed until a recent victory for anti-GM activists in the 
Russian court system that released the findings to the public. The study showed 
that GM potatoes did considerable damage to rats' organs.

The findings have led for a call to withdraw permission to grow GM potatoes at 
secret sites in the UK.


The Independent February 17, 2007





Dr. Mercola's Comment:


  Besides the obvious nutritional reasons, British environmentalists have 
found another good reason to avoid potatoes: Evidence that genetically modified 
(GM) versions have been linked to cancer in rats, just as Dr. Arpad Pusztai 
claimed, to the dismay and anger of the biotech industry. 

  Small surprise that Dr. Pusztai was, in short order, suspended from his 
job, ordered to hand over all his data, and threatened with legal action if he 
spoke to anyone on the subject.

  Halting the production of just one variety of GM crop certainly doesn't 
signal a trend, but it is a start in the right direction. And it doesn't mean 
the GM blight that taints some 70 percent of the foods you see at your corner 
grocery store is over by a long shot either. But perhaps with the help of the 
U.S. court system, Americans will have a little more time to get a little 
smarter about GM crops.

  How You Can Take Action to Limit GMOs


  When people realize the extent of the dangers of GM foods, they usually 
demand that something be done immediately. Many first think of demanding change 
through Congress. Although there are U.S. legislators who have introduced bills 
for labeling and for more extensive testing, these have not yet developed the 
momentum needed to pass. Check with www.TheCampaign.org for current news on 
congressional action.

   

  But it wasn't legislation that worked in Europe and elsewhere. It was the 
widespread rejection of GM foods by consumers that forced food manufacturers to 
remove GM ingredients. Thus, just by taking steps to protect yourself and your 
family, you are helping to move the market.

   

  In addition, you can help get the word out in your community. One of the 
most effective methods is to create a GM-Free School Campaign. This program, 
which is being implemented nationwide, rallies community members around 
protecting the most vulnerable sector of the population -- children. 



  Their young, fast-growing bodies certainly are more sensitive to the 
potential toxins, allergens and nutritional problems associated with GM foods. 
In addition, due to the epidemic of obesity, diabetes, ADHD, and other 
problems, kids' meals, and especially school meals, are under lots of scrutiny 
right now. 



  Each school already has a wellness plan, members of a wellness committee, 
and plenty of parents actively looking for ways to protect the health of their 
kids.

   

  The campaign simultaneously alerts a large number of community members, 
helps educate parents how to buy non-GM brands, is a magnet for local press 
coverage, and will help to convince food companies that cater to kids and sell 
to schools to publically commit to non-GM ingredients.

   

  In addition to a school focus, there are special roles that people in 
certain professions can play to advance this cause. 

a.. Chefs, restaurants and food companies can switch to non-GM sources
b.. Retailers can remove or label GM products or offer in-store Non-GMO 
Shopping Guides 
c.. Religious leaders can help to educate their organization and 
membership 
d.. Health practitioners can provide patient education materials 
e.. Reporters can expose the health risks


  The Institute for Responsible Technology offers support for these groups 
as well.


  As Mary from Cabool, Missouri points out on Vital Votes:


If potatoes can do this to rats, what do the other GM foods do to our 
bodies?  It is very frightening when you consider some of the possibilities.  
You have to be responsible for your own health.

  I couldn't have put it better myself.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread Joe Street
How does local burger's oil titrate?  I notice a correlation between 
titration value and the values of the restauranteur.


MK DuPree wrote:

Thanks for the response, Jason.  Agreed.  Obviously, however, Local 
Burger makes its' point of selling health consciousness (in more ways 
than just personal with food but also socially by supporting local 
economics) when some guy /does/ eat there for all his meals and loses 
weight and becomes healthier overall, unlike doing same at 
McDonald's.  For sure, eating locally grown, properly cared for meat 
and organic produce at home is ideal.  But when you don't want to, 
it's great to have a Local Burger as a choice instead of McDonald's.  
The message a place like this sends to the community is also helpful 
in the fight against Big Agra, Big Pharma, etc.  Mike DuPree


- Original Message -
*From:* Jason Katie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:16 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt really make sense
to me. seems that the benefits of localized food would be somewhat
diminished when it is produced in large amounts like that, because
even with the best quality stock, they are still on a time budget,
and would have to at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely.
i think good food is best prepared in the home, or at least in a
place where there isnt such a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean
what they are reporting is bad, just a little off kilter.

- Original Message -
*From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point,
Jason?   Mike

- Original Message -
*From:* Jason Katie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess...

- Original Message -
*From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Localize Me

Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me? 
This guy eats nothing but McDonald's for a month. 
About dies.  Here's a story from our local newspaper

about a local restaurant that specializes in local
buffalo and elk burgers and other local, organically
grown produce doing a Localize Me promotion.  I've
plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm
embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the
comments to this story.  What can you expect from a
town wherein resides an institution of higher
learning, ie university. Mike DuPree
 
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local
 



Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health

By *Laura McHugh*
http://www2.ljworld.com/staff/laura_mchugh/

Tuesday, March 6, 2007

Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger
dishes. I'm not really a salad guy, but I love that
salad. I could eat it every day, says the former
fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food
and ate only at Local Burger, 714 Vt.

Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court,
gives Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition
to his blood pressure decreasing, Fisher's weight and
cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly.

Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good.

At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel
Fisher.

On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit
his habit, replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's
Local Burger. The downtown restaurant specializes in
locally grown, organic meats and produce.

I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel
great, Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I
used to.

Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher
   

Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread Joe Street
You rock Jesse! 

Has there ever been a marriage proposal on this list?  Oh yeah someone 
already got to you first.damn ;)


Joe

Jesse Frayne wrote:

This thread is just so ME!!  


I shop and cook for my neighbourhood, they pick up
their dinners up on the way home from work.  I feed
some single moms, bachelors, a few couples who work
ridiculous hours, a few housebound people
(deliveries).  It's quite a nice community thing too,
since the neighbours come in and sit around.  Organic
and local produce when possible, definitely all
fresh...  recycled containers (sanitizer on the
dishwasher)

Eventually everything will be local.
Jesse

--- Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


If one chooses not to keep appliances for cooking or
storing food, 
eating out all the time could make sense.  If one
lives alone, or the 
schedule means they are seldom at home for meals,
this could even make 
financial sense.  No refrigerator, no freezer, no
stove, no energy bill 
associated with those activities, no grocery bill,
no worries about food 
spoiling.  No need for a kitchen, saves living
space.  Just skipping the 
trips for groceries appeals to me, not to mention
cooking for others 
with dynamic schedules.


Actually, most dormitories I have experienced are
based on this premise 
(no kitchen, all meals taken at food service
locations of some kind). 
May apply to other situations as well.


Just my 2 cents.

Darryl

Jason Katie wrote:
   


eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt
 

really make sense to me. 
   


seems that the benefits of localized food would be
 

somewhat diminished 
   


when it is produced in large amounts like that,
 

because even with the 
   


best quality stock, they are still on a time
 

budget, and would have to 
   


at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely. i
 

think good food is 
   


best prepared in the home, or at least in a place
 

where there isnt such 
   


a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they
 

are reporting is bad, 
   


just a little off kilter.
 





Jesse Frayne
itsdinner.ca
Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre

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[Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
  TRRIIAANNGGLLEE OOFF LLIIFFEE
  (EARTHQUAKES)
  This is most definitely worth reading.
  Amazing when you think what we were
  taught to do when we were children. How
  wrong they were!!
  EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE
  ON THE TRIANGLE OF LIFE,
  Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety
  Committee brief on 4/13/04.
  My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue
  Chief and Disaster Manager of the American
  Rescue Team International (ARTI), the
  world's most experienced rescue team. The
  information in this article will save lives in an
  earthquake.
  I have crawled inside 875 collapsed
  buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60
  countries, founded rescue teams in several
  countries, and I am a member of many
  rescue teams from many countries. I was the
  United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation
  for two years. I have worked at Every major
  disaster in the world since 1985, except for
  simultaneous disasters.
  In 1996 we made a film, which proved my
  survival methodology to be correct. The
  Turkish Federal Government, City of
  Istanbul, University of Istanbul Case
  Productions and ARTI cooperated to film
  this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a
  school and a home with 20 mannequins
  inside. Ten mannequins did duck and
  cover, and ten mannequins I used in my
  triangle of life survival method. After the
  simulated earthquake collapse we crawled
  through the rubble and entered the building
  to film and document the results. The film, in
  which I practiced my survival techniques
  under directly observable, scientific
  conditions, relevant to building collapse,
  showed there would have been zero percent
  survival for those doing duck and cover.
  There would likely have been 100 percent
  survivability for people using my method of
  the triangle of life.
  This film has been seen by millions of
  viewers on television in Turkey And the rest
  of Europe, and it was seen in the USA,
  Canada and Latin America on the TV
  program Real TV.
  The first building I ever crawled inside of was
  a school in Mexico City during the 1985
  earthquake. Every child was under their desk.
  Every child was crushed to the thickness of
  their bones. They could have survived by
  lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It
  was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered
  why the children were not in the aisles. I
  didn't at the time know that the children
  were told to hide under something. Simply
  stated, when buildings collapse, the weight
  of the ceilings falling upon the objects or
  furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving
  a space or void next to them. This space is
  what I call the triangle of life. The larger
  the object, the stronger, the less it will
  compact. The less the object compacts, the
  larger the void, the greater the probability
  that the person who is using this void for
  safety will not be injured. The next time you
  watch collapsed buildings, on television,
  count the triangles you see formed. They
  are everywhere. It is the most common
  shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
  They are everywhere.
  TEN TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
  1) Most everyone who simply ducks and
  covers WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE, are
  crushed to death. People who get under
  objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.
  2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl
  up in the foetal position. You should too in
  an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival
  instinct. You can survive in a smaller void.
  Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to
  a large bulky object that will compress
  slightly but leave avoid next to it.
  3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of
  construction to be in during an earthquake.
  Wood is flexible and moves with the force of
  the earthquake. If the wooden building does
  collapse, large survival voids are created.
  Also, the wooden building has less
  concentrated, crushing weight. Brick
  buildings will break into individual bricks.
  Bricks will cause many injuries but less
  squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
  4) If you are in bed during the night and an
  earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A
  safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels
  can achieve a much greater survival rate in
  earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the
  back of the door of every room telling
  occupants to lie down on the floor, next to
  the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
  5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot
  easily escape by getting out the door or
  window, then lie down and curl up in the
  foetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
  6) Most everyone who gets under a
  doorway when buildings collapse is killed.
  How? If you stand under a doorway and the
  doorjamb falls forward or backward you will
  be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door
  jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by
  the doorway. In either case, you will be
  killed!
  7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a
  different 

Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread robert and benita rabello

Kirk McLoren wrote:


TRRIIAANNGGLLEE OOFF LLIIFFEE
(EARTHQUAKES)
This is most definitely worth reading.



   Indeed!  It makes a LOT of sense, too.  I grew up in earthquake 
country and habitually pressed myself into a door frame whenever I was 
inside.  I can remember one night when a particularly powerful 
earthquake hit that the nails in the house frame creaked and groaned 
under the strain.  I found it extremely hard to stay pressed into the 
doorway.  I've also been outside and have seen the ground rolling at me 
like waves on the ocean.  It's EXTREMELY disconcerting to watch the 
ground ripple like that!


   Thanks for posting this, Kirk!

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Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
If it saves one child.
  How sad it is we were all taught to get under our desk.
  As he said - how obscene. Murdered by misinformation.
   
  Kirk

robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kirk McLoren wrote:
TRRIIAANNGGLLEE OOFF LLIIFFEE
  (EARTHQUAKES)
  This is most definitely worth reading.

Indeed!  It makes a LOT of sense, too.  I grew up in earthquake country and 
habitually pressed myself into a door frame whenever I was inside.  I can 
remember one night when a particularly powerful earthquake hit that the nails 
in the house frame creaked and groaned under the strain.  I found it extremely 
hard to stay pressed into the doorway.  I've also been outside and have seen 
the ground rolling at me like waves on the ocean.  It's EXTREMELY disconcerting 
to watch the ground ripple like that!

Thanks for posting this, Kirk!


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for Your Mind  http://www.newadventure.caRanger Supercharger Project Page  
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/



 
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Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote:

 If it saves one child.
 How sad it is we were all taught to get under our desk.
 As he said - how obscene. Murdered by misinformation.


We were taught several things about earthquake survival as 
children.  In addition to stored food, water and a portable radio, we 
needed to have shoes by the bed and we were supposed to stay away from 
windows.  Flying glass causes a lot of injury, and without shoes, feet 
cut easily on sharp debris.  We were warned to NEVER leave a building 
while the ground was shaking, and to exit with great care (look up 
before going out) to avoid getting hit by fascia or other debris falling 
from above.  We were told to stay away from stairs and elevators, too.  
If outside, we were to look for open ground, avoiding powerlines and any 
building higher than a single story, if possible, and to stay low.  
(I've almost been knocked off my feet by an earthquake!)  If we were 
driving, we were supposed to pull off the road and get out of the car 
and onto the shoulder.  (This also allows easier access for emergency 
vehicles.)

Much of this advice makes sense.  Houses and schools where I grew up 
tended to be single storey buildings.  Very little of the construction 
involved concrete, save for stem walls in the foundations.  If the roof 
is lightweight, pressing into a doorway (the strongest part of the house 
frame) made sense, as long as I put my back to the hinge so that the 
door wouldn't slam against me.  In light of what you've posted here, I 
wouldn't do that now, though!

Where I come from, houses were primarily constructed of wood frames 
that supported thick walls filled with mortared brick.  This kind of 
construction fared well in earthquakes because the wood framing allowed 
the houses to flex and sway.  (The house I grew up in had been built in 
1928 and survived MANY strong earthquakes without damage.)  The biggest 
danger involved chimneys falling into the house.  This happened to our 
next door neighbor, but fortunately, no one was hurt.

I don't think there was a conscious effort to misinform.  We were 
once told to put our noses to the floor while trying to escape from 
fires, too, until people began dying from inhaling all of the heavy, 
off-gassing of modern carpets and drapes.  We should be willing to adapt 
when new information is presented.

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Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread MK DuPree
Don't know, Joe.  According to their website (www.localburger.com) they use 
coconut oil.  I see there's a blog on their site too.  You might ask.  Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me


  How does local burger's oil titrate?  I notice a correlation between 
titration value and the values of the restauranteur.

  MK DuPree wrote:

Thanks for the response, Jason.  Agreed.  Obviously, however, Local Burger 
makes its' point of selling health consciousness (in more ways than just 
personal with food but also socially by supporting local economics) when some 
guy does eat there for all his meals and loses weight and becomes healthier 
overall, unlike doing same at McDonald's.  For sure, eating locally grown, 
properly cared for meat and organic produce at home is ideal.  But when you 
don't want to, it's great to have a Local Burger as a choice instead of 
McDonald's.  The message a place like this sends to the community is also 
helpful in the fight against Big Agra, Big Pharma, etc.  Mike DuPree
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason Katie 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me


  eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt really make sense to me. 
seems that the benefits of localized food would be somewhat diminished when it 
is produced in large amounts like that, because even with the best quality 
stock, they are still on a time budget, and would have to at least skim 
corners, if not cut them entirely. i think good food is best prepared in the 
home, or at least in a place where there isnt such a rush to finish cooking. i 
dont mean what they are reporting is bad, just a little off kilter.
- Original Message - 
From: MK DuPree 
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me


What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point, Jason?   
Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason Katie 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me


  a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess...
- Original Message - 
From: MK DuPree 
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Localize Me


Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me?  This guy eats 
nothing but McDonald's for a month.  About dies.  Here's a story from our local 
newspaper about a local restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk 
burgers and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize Me 
promotion.  I've plugged the List in my comments to this story, and I'm 
embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of the comments to this story.  What 
can you expect from a town wherein resides an institution of higher learning, 
ie university. Mike DuPree 


http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local

Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health
By Laura McHugh

Tuesday, March 6, 2007

Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger dishes. I'm 
not really a salad guy, but I love that salad. I could eat it every day, says 
the former fast-food diner. For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only 
at Local Burger, 714 Vt.
Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives Daniel 
Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his blood pressure decreasing, 
Fisher's weight and cholesterol levels have also dropped significantly.

Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good.

At least, that's what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher.

On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his habit, 
replacing chain restaurants with Lawrence's Local Burger. The downtown 
restaurant specializes in locally grown, organic meats and produce.

I've lost 23 or 24 pounds, and I can feel it. I feel great, 
Fisher said. I have a lot more energy than I used to.

Local Burger's owner, Hilary Brown, recruited Fisher for the 
project, which she calls Localize Me, a play on Super Size Me, a movie in 
which the filmmaker eats only McDonald's fast food for a month.

He was wonderful about sticking to the program and just being 
committed to this journey, Brown said.

That journey was to eat only Local Burger, three meals a day, for 
an entire month. At first, Fisher worried the healthy fare would not satisfy 
his super-sized appetite.

I thought I was going to starve to death eating little tiny 
portions, but 

[Biofuel] [Fwd: FW: State makes big fuss over local couple's vegetable oil car fuel]

2007-03-08 Thread Mike Weaver

 

http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/03/01/news/local_news/1021491.txt


*State makes big fuss over local couple's vegetable oil car fuel*

/By HUEY FREEMAN - HR Staff Writer/

DECATUR - David and Eileen Wetzel don't get going in the morning quite 
as early as they used to.

So David Wetzel, 79, was surprised to hear a knock on the door at their 
eastside home while he was still getting dressed.

Two men in suits were standing on his porch.

They showed me their badges and said they were from the Illinois 
Department of Revenue, Wetzel said. I said, 'Come in.' Maybe I 
shouldn't have.

Gary May introduced himself as a special agent. The other man, John 
Egan, was introduced as his colleague. May gave the Wetzels his card, 
stating that he is the senior agent in the bureau of criminal 
investigations.

I was afraid, Eileen Wetzel said. I came out of the bathroom. I 
thought: Good God, we paid our taxes. The check didn't bounce.

The agents informed the Wetzels that they were interested in their car, 
a 1986 Volkswagen Golf, that David Wetzel converted to run primarily 
from vegetable oil but also partly on diesel.

Wetzel uses recycled vegetable oil, which he picks up weekly from an 
organization that uses it for frying food at its dining facility.

They told me I am required to have a license and am obligated to pay a 
motor fuel tax, David Wetzel recalled. Mr. May also told me the tax 
would be retroactive.

Since the initial visit by the agents on Jan. 4, the Wetzels have been 
involved in a struggle with the Illinois Department of Revenue. The 
couple, who live on a fixed budget, have been asked to post a $2,500 
bond and threatened with felony charges.

State legislators have rallied to help the Wetzels.

State Sen. Frank Watson, R-Greenville, introduced Senate Bill 267, which 
would curtail government interference regarding alternative fuels, such 
as vegetable oil. A public hearing on the bill will be at 1 p.m. today 
in Room 400 of the state Capitol.

I would agree that the bond is not acceptable, $2,500 bond, Watson 
said, adding that David Wetzel should be commended for his innovative 
efforts. (His car) gets 46 miles per gallon running on vegetable oil. 
We all should be thinking about doing without gasoline if we're trying 
to end foreign dependency.

I think it's inappropriate of state dollars to send two people to Mr. 
Wetzel's home to do this. They could have done with a more friendly 
approach. It could have been done on the phone. To use an intimidation 
factor on this - who is he harming? Two revenue agents. You'd think 
there's a better use of their time, Watson said.

The Wetzels, who plan to speak at a Senate hearing in Springfield today, 
recalled how their struggle with the revenue department unfolded.

According to the Wetzels, May told them during his Jan. 4 visit that 
they would have to pay taxes at either the gasoline rate of 19½ cents 
per gallon or the diesel rate of 21½ cents per gallon.

A retired research chemist and food plant manager, Wetzel produced 
records showing he has used 1,134.6 gallons of vegetable oil from 2002 
to 2006. At the higher rate, the tax bill would come to $244.24.

That averages out to $4.07 a month, Wetzel noted, adding he is willing 
to pay that bill.

But the Wetzels would discover that the state had more complicated and 
costly requirements for them to continue to use their veggie mobile.

David Wetzel was told to contact a revenue official and apply for a 
license as a special fuel supplier and receiver. After completing a 
complicated application form designed for businesses, David Wetzel was 
sent a letter directing him to send in a $2,500 bond.

Eileen Wetzel, a former teaching assistant, calculated that the bond, 
designed to ensure that their business pays its taxes, would cover the 
next 51 years at their present usage rate.

A couple of weeks later, David Wetzel received another letter from the 
revenue department, stating that he must immediately stop operating as 
a special fuel supplier and receiver until you receive special fuel 
supplier and receiver licenses.

This threatening letter stated that acting as a supplier and receiver 
without a license is a Class 3 felony. This class of felonies carries a 
penalty of up to five years in prison.

On the department of revenue's Web site, David Wetzel discovered that 
the definition of special fuel supplier includes someone who operates a 
plant with an active bulk storage capacity of not less than 30,000 
gallons. Wetzel also did not fit the definition of a receiver, 
described as a person who produces, distributes or transports fuel into 
the state. So Wetzel withdrew his application to become a supplier and 
receiver.

Mike Klemens, spokesman for the department of revenue, explained that 
Wetzel has to register as a supplier because the law states that is the 
only way he can pay motor fuel tax.

But what if he is not, in fact, a supplier? Then would he instead be 
exempt 

[Biofuel] quotable quote

2007-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
 YOUR EDITOR is embarrassed to report that he comes from a long line 
of undocumented workers who entered this country without the approval 
of the Department of Homeland Security or its predecessors. He 
apologizes for this error on their part, but no one explained to these 
miscreants that freedom required a license.

 
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Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
If structures were seen as boats instead of anchored in the soil they could 
be safer. A friend of mine did that in So California. He had the cement 
foundation sitting on rocks so it could slide. A flexible connection on the 
utilities allowed movement and the next quake he had zero damage vs cracked 
foundations in his neighbors houses.
   
  Kirk

robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kirk McLoren wrote:

 If it saves one child.
 How sad it is we were all taught to get under our desk.
 As he said - how obscene. Murdered by misinformation.


We were taught several things about earthquake survival as 
children. In addition to stored food, water and a portable radio, we 
needed to have shoes by the bed and we were supposed to stay away from 
windows. Flying glass causes a lot of injury, and without shoes, feet 
cut easily on sharp debris. We were warned to NEVER leave a building 
while the ground was shaking, and to exit with great care (look up 
before going out) to avoid getting hit by fascia or other debris falling 
from above. We were told to stay away from stairs and elevators, too. 
If outside, we were to look for open ground, avoiding powerlines and any 
building higher than a single story, if possible, and to stay low. 
(I've almost been knocked off my feet by an earthquake!) If we were 
driving, we were supposed to pull off the road and get out of the car 
and onto the shoulder. (This also allows easier access for emergency 
vehicles.)

Much of this advice makes sense. Houses and schools where I grew up 
tended to be single storey buildings. Very little of the construction 
involved concrete, save for stem walls in the foundations. If the roof 
is lightweight, pressing into a doorway (the strongest part of the house 
frame) made sense, as long as I put my back to the hinge so that the 
door wouldn't slam against me. In light of what you've posted here, I 
wouldn't do that now, though!

Where I come from, houses were primarily constructed of wood frames 
that supported thick walls filled with mortared brick. This kind of 
construction fared well in earthquakes because the wood framing allowed 
the houses to flex and sway. (The house I grew up in had been built in 
1928 and survived MANY strong earthquakes without damage.) The biggest 
danger involved chimneys falling into the house. This happened to our 
next door neighbor, but fortunately, no one was hurt.

I don't think there was a conscious effort to misinform. We were 
once told to put our noses to the floor while trying to escape from 
fires, too, until people began dying from inhaling all of the heavy, 
off-gassing of modern carpets and drapes. We should be willing to adapt 
when new information is presented.

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Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread Jesse Frayne
Flirt!  You KNOW  I'm old enough to be your mother. 
I'm practically old enough to be Darryl's mother,
fercryinoutloud.
Cheers.

--- Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You rock Jesse! 
 
 Has there ever been a marriage proposal on this
 list?  Oh yeah someone 
 already got to you first.damn ;)
 
 Joe
 
 Jesse Frayne wrote:
 
 This thread is just so ME!!  
 
 I shop and cook for my neighbourhood, they pick up
 their dinners up on the way home from work.  I feed
 some single moms, bachelors, a few couples who work
 ridiculous hours, a few housebound people
 (deliveries).  It's quite a nice community thing
 too,
 since the neighbours come in and sit around. 
 Organic
 and local produce when possible, definitely all
 fresh...  recycled containers (sanitizer on the
 dishwasher)
 
 Eventually everything will be local.
 Jesse
 
 --- Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 If one chooses not to keep appliances for cooking
 or
 storing food, 
 eating out all the time could make sense.  If one
 lives alone, or the 
 schedule means they are seldom at home for meals,
 this could even make 
 financial sense.  No refrigerator, no freezer, no
 stove, no energy bill 
 associated with those activities, no grocery bill,
 no worries about food 
 spoiling.  No need for a kitchen, saves living
 space.  Just skipping the 
 trips for groceries appeals to me, not to mention
 cooking for others 
 with dynamic schedules.
 
 Actually, most dormitories I have experienced are
 based on this premise 
 (no kitchen, all meals taken at food service
 locations of some kind). 
 May apply to other situations as well.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Darryl
 
 Jason Katie wrote:
 
 
 eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt
   
 
 really make sense to me. 
 
 
 seems that the benefits of localized food would
 be
   
 
 somewhat diminished 
 
 
 when it is produced in large amounts like that,
   
 
 because even with the 
 
 
 best quality stock, they are still on a time
   
 
 budget, and would have to 
 
 
 at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely.
 i
   
 
 think good food is 
 
 
 best prepared in the home, or at least in a place
   
 
 where there isnt such 
 
 
 a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they
   
 
 are reporting is bad, 
 
 
 just a little off kilter.
   
 
 
 
 
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 itsdinner.ca
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Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Jason Katie
how did he get /that/ one past code??
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirk McLoren 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse


  If structures were seen as boats instead of anchored in the soil they could 
be safer. A friend of mine did that in So California. He had the cement 
foundation sitting on rocks so it could slide. A flexible connection on the 
utilities allowed movement and the next quake he had zero damage vs cracked 
foundations in his neighbors houses.

  Kirk

  robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kirk McLoren wrote:

 If it saves one child.
 How sad it is we were all taught to get under our desk.
 As he said - how obscene. Murdered by misinformation.


We were taught several things about earthquake survival as 
children. In addition to stored food, water and a portable radio, we 
needed to have shoes by the bed and we were supposed to stay away from 
windows. Flying glass causes a lot of injury, and without shoes, feet 
cut easily on sharp debris. We were warned to NEVER leave a building 
while the ground was shaking, and to exit with great care (look up 
before going out) to avoid getting hit by fascia or other debris falling 
from above. We were told to stay away from stairs and elevators, too. 
If outside, we were to look for open ground, avoiding powerlines and any 
building higher than a single story, if possible, and to stay low. 
(I've almost been knocked off my feet by an earthquake!) If we were 
driving, we were supposed to pull off the road and get out of the car 
and onto the shoulder. (This also allows easier access for emergency 
vehicles.)

Much of this advice makes sense. Houses and schools where I grew up 
tended to be single storey buildings. Very little of the construction 
involved concrete, save for stem walls in the foundations. If the roof 
is lightweight, pressing into a doorway (the strongest part of the house 
frame) made sense, as long as I put my back to the hinge so that the 
door wouldn't slam against me. In light of what you've posted here, I 
wouldn't do that now, though!

Where I come from, houses were primarily constructed of wood frames 
that supported thick walls filled with mortared brick. This kind of 
construction fared well in earthquakes because the wood framing allowed 
the houses to flex and sway. (The house I grew up in had been built in 
1928 and survived MANY strong earthquakes without damage.) The biggest 
danger involved chimneys falling into the house. This happened to our 
next door neighbor, but fortunately, no one was hurt.

I don't think there was a conscious effort to misinform. We were 
once told to put our noses to the floor while trying to escape from 
fires, too, until people began dying from inhaling all of the heavy, 
off-gassing of modern carpets and drapes. We should be willing to adapt 
when new information is presented.

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Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Dennis Schultz
American Red Cross response to Triangle of Life by Doug Copp 
  Sent from 
  Rocky Lopes, PhD 
  Manager, Community Disaster Education 
  American Red Cross National Headquarters 
Recently it has been brought to my attention that an email from Doug Copp, 
titled Triangle of Life, is making its rounds again on the Internet. Drop, 
Cover, and Hold On is CORRECT, accurate, and APPROPRIATE for use in the United 
States for Earthquake safety. Mr. Copp's assertions in his message that 
everyone is always crushed if they get under something is incorrect. 


Recently, the American Red Cross became aware of a challenge to the earthquake 
safety advice Drop, Cover, and Hold On. This is according to information from 
Mr. Doug Copp, the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of American Rescue Team 
International (a private company not affiliated with the U.S. Government or 
other agency.) He says that going underneath objects during an earthquake [as 
in children being told to get under their desks at school] is very dangerous, 
and fatal should the building collapse in a strong earthquake. He also states 
that everyone who gets under a doorway when a building collapses is killed. 
He further states that if you are in bed when an earthquake happens, to roll 
out of bed next to it, and he also says that If an earthquake happens while 
you are watching television and you cannot easily escape by getting out the 
door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, 
or large chair. These recommendations are inaccurate for application in the 
United States and inconsistent with information developed through earthquake 
research. Mr. Copp based his statements on observations of damage to buildings 
after an earthquake in Turkey. It is like apples and oranges to compare 
building construction standards, techniques, engineering principles, and 
construction materials between Turkey and the United States. 

We at the American Red Cross have studied the research on the topic of 
earthquake safety for many years. We have benefited from extensive research 
done by the California Office of Emergency Services, California Seismic Safety 
Commission, professional and academic research organizations, and emergency 
management agencies, who have also studied the recommendation to drop, cover, 
and hold on! during the shaking of an earthquake. Personally, I have also 
benefited from those who preceded me in doing earthquake education in 
California since the Field Act was passed in 1933. 

What the claims made by Mr. Copp of ARTI, Inc., does not seem to distinguish is 
that the recommendation to drop, cover, and hold on! is a U.S.-based 
recommendation based on U.S. Building Codes and construction standards. Much 
research in the United States has confirmed that Drop, Cover, and Hold On! 
has saved lives in the United States. Engineering researchers have demonstrated 
that very few buildings collapse or pancake in the U.S. as they might do in 
other countries. Using a web site to show one picture of one U.S. building that 
had a partial collapse after a major quake in an area with thousands of 
buildings that did not collapse during the same quake is inappropriate and 
misleading. 

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which 
collects data on injuries and deaths from all reportable causes in the U.S., as 
well as data from three University-based studies performed after the Loma 
Prieta (September, 1989) and Northridge (January, 1994) earthquakes in 
California, the following data are indicated: Loma Prieta: 63 deaths, 
approximately 3,700 people were injured. Most injuries happened as a result of 
the collapse of the Cypress Street section of I-880 in Oakland. Northridge: 57 
deaths, 1,500 serious injuries. Most injuries were from falls caused by people 
trying to get out of their homes, or serious cuts and broken bones when people 
ran, barefooted, over broken glass (the earthquake happened in the early 
morning on a federal holiday when many people were still in bed.) There were 
millions of people in each of these earthquake-affected areas, and of those 
millions, many of them reported to have dropped, covered, and held on during 
the shaking of the earthquake. 

We contend that Drop, Cover, and Hold On indeed SAVED lives, not killed 
people. Because the research continues to demonstrate that, in the U.S., Drop, 
Cover, and Hold On! works, the American Red Cross remains behind that 
recommendation. It is the simplest, reliable, and easiest method to teach 
people, including children. 

The American Red Cross has not recommended use of a doorway for earthquake 
protection for more than a decade. The problem is that many doorways are not 
built into the structural integrity of a building, and may not offer 
protection. Also, simply put, doorways are not suitable for more than one 
person at a time. 

The 

Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
they didnt see the bottom.
  Quite right - not approved method.
  I had to agree though - if the structure is strong enough to act like a 
boat it is superior to the established practice.
   
  Kirk

Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how did he get /that/ one past code??
- Original Message - 
  From: Kirk McLoren 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] surviving building collapse
  

  If structures were seen as boats instead of anchored in the soil they could 
be safer. A friend of mine did that in So California. He had the cement 
foundation sitting on rocks so it could slide. A flexible connection on the 
utilities allowed movement and the next quake he had zero damage vs cracked 
foundations in his neighbors houses.
   
  Kirk

robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kirk McLoren wrote:

 If it saves one child.
 How sad it is we were all taught to get under our desk.
 As he said - how obscene. Murdered by misinformation.


We were taught several things about earthquake survival as 
children. In addition to stored food, water and a portable radio, we 
needed to have shoes by the bed and we were supposed to stay away from 
windows. Flying glass causes a lot of injury, and without shoes, feet 
cut easily on sharp debris. We were warned to NEVER leave a building 
while the ground was shaking, and to exit with great care (look up 
before going out) to avoid getting hit by fascia or other debris falling 
from above. We were told to stay away from stairs and elevators, too. 
If outside, we were to look for open ground, avoiding powerlines and any 
building higher than a single story, if possible, and to stay low. 
(I've almost been knocked off my feet by an earthquake!) If we were 
driving, we were supposed to pull off the road and get out of the car 
and onto the shoulder. (This also allows easier access for emergency 
vehicles.)

Much of this advice makes sense. Houses and schools where I grew up 
tended to be single storey buildings. Very little of the construction 
involved concrete, save for stem walls in the foundations. If the roof 
is lightweight, pressing into a doorway (the strongest part of the house 
frame) made sense, as long as I put my back to the hinge so that the 
door wouldn't slam against me. In light of what you've posted here, I 
wouldn't do that now, though!

Where I come from, houses were primarily constructed of wood frames 
that supported thick walls filled with mortared brick. This kind of 
construction fared well in earthquakes because the wood framing allowed 
the houses to flex and sway. (The house I grew up in had been built in 
1928 and survived MANY strong earthquakes without damage.) The biggest 
danger involved chimneys falling into the house. This happened to our 
next door neighbor, but fortunately, no one was hurt.

I don't think there was a conscious effort to misinform. We were 
once told to put our noses to the floor while trying to escape from 
fires, too, until people began dying from inhaling all of the heavy, 
off-gassing of modern carpets and drapes. We should be willing to adapt 
when new information is presented.

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Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me

2007-03-08 Thread Dawie Coetzee
The practicality of local restaurants that supply general meals as opposed to 
venues for special occasions may, I think, be much improved by better urban 
spatial arrangements. This sort of thing makes a lot of sense in an urban 
environment that places decent numbers of people within a walking radius and 
then encourages them to walk, provides physical conditions conducive to the 
emergence of large numbers of local small businesses, and generally supports 
civic relationships between people in the neighbourhood. It's amazing how 
something like the width of the space between buildings on opposite sides of a 
street can influence the way an entire economy works. -Dawie


- Original Message 
From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 March, 2007 5:02:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me


If one chooses not to keep appliances for cooking or storing food, 
eating out all the time could make sense.  If one lives alone, or the 
schedule means they are seldom at home for meals, this could even make 
financial sense.  No refrigerator, no freezer, no stove, no energy bill 
associated with those activities, no grocery bill, no worries about food 
spoiling.  No need for a kitchen, saves living space.  Just skipping the 
trips for groceries appeals to me, not to mention cooking for others 
with dynamic schedules.

Actually, most dormitories I have experienced are based on this premise 
(no kitchen, all meals taken at food service locations of some kind). 
May apply to other situations as well.

Just my 2 cents.

Darryl

Jason Katie wrote:
 
 eating at a restaurant three times a day doesnt really make sense to me. 
 seems that the benefits of localized food would be somewhat diminished 
 when it is produced in large amounts like that, because even with the 
 best quality stock, they are still on a time budget, and would have to 
 at least skim corners, if not cut them entirely. i think good food is 
 best prepared in the home, or at least in a place where there isnt such 
 a rush to finish cooking. i dont mean what they are reporting is bad, 
 just a little off kilter.
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:02 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Localize Me
 
 What do you feel is bizarre and wonder if there is a point,
 Jason?   Mike
 
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 *From:* Jason Katie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:03 PM
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 a little bizarre, but there IS a point- i guess...
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:12 AM
 *Subject:* [Biofuel] Localize Me
 
 Have you heard of the documentary Super Size Me?  This guy
 eats nothing but McDonald's for a month.  About dies. 
 Here's a story from our local newspaper about a local
 restaurant that specializes in local buffalo and elk burgers
 and other local, organically grown produce doing a Localize
 Me promotion.  I've plugged the List in my comments to this
 story, and I'm embarrassed, but not surprised, by many of
 the comments to this story.  What can you expect from a town
 wherein resides an institution of higher learning, ie
 university. Mike DuPree
  
 
 http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/mar/06/freshfood_dieter_eats_his_way_health/?city_local
 
  
 
 
 Fresh-food dieter eats his way to health
 
 By * Laura McHugh *
 http://www2.ljworld.com/staff/laura_mchugh/
 
 Tuesday, March 6, 2007
 
 Daniel Fisher enjoys one of his favorite Local Burger
 dishes. “I’m not really a salad guy, but I love that salad.
 I could eat it every day,” says the former fast-food diner.
 For 30 days, Fisher gave up fast food and ate only at Local
 Burger, 714 Vt.
 
 Mary Dooley, nurse at First Med, 2323 Ridge Court, gives
 Daniel Fisher some good news Monday. In addition to his
 blood pressure decreasing, Fisher’s weight and cholesterol
 levels have also dropped significantly.
 
 Thirty days of fresh food can do a body good.
 
 At least, that’s what worked for 29-year-old Daniel Fisher.
 
 On Jan. 25, the self-proclaimed fast-food junkie quit his
 habit, replacing chain restaurants with