Re: [biofuels-biz] Can't bring my Lupo back to the US...
Hi , Great story-- I guess US does the same thing as Germany does to US or Japanese cars- does not allow to import a car that does not have official homologation for that car from the manufacturer. I faced same problem when I tried to drive Acura integra in germany-- I couldn't, because Honda hadn't homologated it for Germany or Europe. God I was mad, because I had two of them. Finaly, I found a loophole... but it costed me so much time, energy and money. So the same thing goes for Lupo to get improted to US. do not waiste your energy, besided, no insurance company will insure it-- they just do not have a risk data for this car on US roads, and possible part replacement cost. So, sell it, and in States you will be able to buy VW jeta of golf with diesel engine. Anyway, would you want to sell your Lupo to me? Thomas --- M. Bjorn Ansbro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No news, just whining. After two years of driving my VW Lupo 3L (Diesel 1.2 TDI) in the Netherlands, I can't bring it home with me to the U.S. Sadly (and curiously), he's not on the list posted by the National Highway Transportation Safety Assoc. (NHTSA) of vehicles certified for import. Also, he's got none of the U.S. certification sticker about which I've read. Have I overlooked any loopholes? Any thoughts? Cheers, and keep up the highly informative posting. Planning my own homebrew operation back in the States by late fall. Bjorn Ansbro _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Inkjet cartridges up to 80% off. HP, Epson, Lexmark--we have your brand. Free shipping on every order to the U.S. and Canada! Excellent service. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/QWB0QC/.eUGAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT
Biodiesel and rapse oil is not a problem-- methanol is. And anything related with it. Just to buy a methanol from a lab supply store you have to show your passport. I tried. And you are right-- water polution laws in Germany( and not only water polution, any polution) are very strict. Just a fact that you legaly are not allowed to change your tire on the curb(in case of a tire accident)(of course, people do it, but according to the law, it is a no no) because you can damage the road surface and contaminate the area says something about it. Or try to wash your car in a driveway... I am not pulling this stuff out of my ass- I experienced it myself. That is why I am pissed at German (and EU) governments. Cheers. --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Anyway, US sucks , too, when it comes to biodiesel, but at least there is a chance, expensive one, but still there is-- join the §%$§$ed up biodiesel board inc, and you can make and sell biodiesel. Try that in germany-- your hair will go grey, and maybe your kids will run the business untill you get all the permits, lol. This is not true! The EPA and NBB did not read their own documentation.. small producers (smaller than 10million $$ per year) only have to pass an ASTM spec test, which is considerably less expensicve than qualifying for Tier1! Look further back on this list for confirmation. --T Or so they now say. It hasn't happened yet though, AFAIK, it still needs a test case. What prevents people making their own biodiesel for own-use in Germany? Yet there's nothing to stop you using SVO or WVO (which isn't even taxed)? Is it something to do with the weird pollution laws? There's an apparent misclassification of water pollution standards in Germany, where the risk from rapeseed oil is not even classified, whereas biodiesel is a class 1 hazard, and fossil diesel is in class 2 (worse). It only refers to water pollution and no other aspects of toxicity or hazard. This doesn't make sense, a biodiesel spill would be less of a problem than a spill of vegetable oil, which coats everything, like fossil oil does. In fact biodiesel is used to clean up marine oil spills. Best Keith __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT
At the same time, securing the oil of the Middle East, perhaps with England's biggest oil companies as partners in the pumping consortium that will undoubtedly come out of an Iraqi war effort, is promoted to the British public by the corporate-owned British newspapers and similarly corporate-loyal UK politicians. *I've never seen that promoted and nobody would believe it. We all know that the Americans will carve it up for themselves. Malcolm Nothing prevents other countries joing the consortium to ensure the oil is flowing for them too. I am a big fan of how americans do business and politics. I lived in US for almost 10 years, lived in Europe most of my life, and I should say-- I hate the way things are done in Europe- business or politics, especially Germany. When it comes to biodiesel-- Germany is not that friendly as it seems. No one can make the biodiesel for themselves, let alone for sale. Germany feels like old Soviet union in a lot of aspects. I am a big biodiesel advocate, but how much can I do? Anyway, US sucks , too, when it comes to biodiesel, but at least there is a chance, expensive one, but still there is-- join the §%$§$ed up biodiesel board inc, and you can make and sell biodiesel. Try that in germany-- your hair will go grey, and maybe your kids will run the business untill you get all the permits, lol. So, stop bikering at the way republicans will run down the mother earth to ground. Enjoy the low price of gasoline and buy honda or toyota car. Why are there people who want to knock off the wall with their foreheads when there are doors? The market will drive when and how much biodiesel is used-- not the politics, or laws, or taxation. When the oil will run out, everybody will be driving biodiesel. And those who are already angry with my post-- try to live in UK, or Germany-- go register your car and fill up with gas. You will see how much it costs comparing to the same procedure in US. Some cars, like acura integra 90-93 or vigor 91-94 you wont even be able to register in Europe. Then mayby you will thank your republican or democrat house for all the choices american democracy has given you. And, oh, almost forgot, oil rich countries deserve what they have- 98% poor people. What prevents them from having democracies there? they have cash to put things in place now, not after when the oil is gone. The answer could be-- the religion. Well, $$§% that religion-- look at the middle east from far away prospective, like Finland, and it seems very pathetic. then it looks like not only US republicans are greedy, but also muslims and jews, and for that matter, everybody. The difference is-- some people know how to make it work for the good. Thomas __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries
Hi to all, We all know that the fuell tax in Europe is outrageous. and the government supporters about the fuel tax issue are either idiots or work for government. Especially UK people. So, you, tax advocates, shut up and go be stupid in your offices. A car owner, especially in UK and Germany pays so many taxes related to cars, that it is more than enough to keep government building better roads, infrastructure and whatever. Just registering your car and yearly road taxes are incredible. Where that money goes to? Somehow in US government is surviving with their level of fuel and road taxation. So, if a guy is making a biofuel on his own- he should pay a tax, but not such extent as regular petrol fuel. Somehow bio is treated equaly with petro stuff. give him a break for not poluting as much and saving energy, using renewable resources, for initiative, lol. God, it just makes me angry when I hear someone advocating for government, especialy UK. They should work 10K times more efficient for the money they collect for whatever tax, not only fuels. Let them try to make biodiesel, then maybe they would come to senses on how much to tax, bastards. __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Digest Number 203
For methanol recovery, I bought one of those SaveVac 140 series from http://www.bestechind.com/product.htm Check the spec if it pulls enought vacuum for you. If it does, it is more cost evective to get it and not waist the time with the 'old clunkers' :) I bargained with the guy, and he sold it to me for 169. Best Regards, Thomas --- motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Castleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attempted a repeat last night with a Shop air compressor, and still no positive result. The wornout old thing could only make about 20 inches of vacuum, and nothing happened in an hour of maintaining it. The problem you will have with a refrigeration compressor is that by design they discharge some oil on every stroke and will therefore soon lose enough to cause it to fail. You will be able to achieve a 28 vacuum, but this will probably degrade rather quickly, leaving you back where you are now. There are actually vacuum pumps made for refrigeration work that are designed to pull a 29 vacuum with no harm to the pump itself. A person might find one of these at their local pawn shop for around $100, or brand new for about $300. Tim I may try to hook 2 old clunkers in series. Once the system is under adequate vacuum, I can shut one down, and only have to recirculate CO2 as a carrier of Ethanol vapors, with no pressure differential. I have first Dibs on a twin cylinder compressor with a 60 gallon tank. When I get it home, I'll see if it can make adequate vacuum be itself. If not, I'll connect them in series. I consider the 60 gallon upright pressure tank to be worth the effort to haul it, even if the compressor doesn't work out. Motie __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Energy Funding Solutions- Does anyone want 5 million?
Motie, Their minimum investment is 5 million USD. Are you up to spend that much as a little guy? I would not even dare to write them letter with a simple question if they are serious, but if you are the guy with balls as you say then here is my proposition: How about of getting those 5 mill and making a biodiesel production plant. I already have a facility, with that money we could get the equipment and start large production, maybe even go big to become a monopoly in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia market. Then YOU can keep getting more of those 5 mill stacks and go to some other countries like Argentina, Malaysia, whatever, and whichever country that does not have National Biodiesel Board yet, and set up production plants there. God, it looks great on the paper, doesn't it? However, their homepage does not represent a respectable financial company, so I have my doubts. Like the doubts of usefulness of reading news of such company ready to invest 5 mill in bioenergy etc industry. So, get real, it is not a nugget that somebody missed. Again, it just a matter of flashy headlines and no substance underneath. Is anyone else interested in 5 mills?... What, you do not need money?... Oh you only work for fun. Well, I have to keep my day job to fund my biodiesel experiment. Best regards, Disclaimer: this letter is not intended to offend anyone who is still mixing with the drill in a 5 gallon bucket, ie experimenting. Otherwise, I hope to stir this group a little bit so they put their money where their mouths are. --- motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://biobased.org/news/news1927.html Biobased Information System: Energy Funding Solutions Energy Funding Solutions Source: News Release 04/09/2002 Attention: Managing Director, New Projects Now see the 'nugget' that the guy who just unsubscribed missed? I copied the whole page for later reference. If they have money, I'll try to find a way to help them spend it. Even if I have to hire some help. So many ideas! So little time(and money) Motie __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] It is not about biofuels anymore AGAIN
Hi people, Looks like I sparked some responses, so here I go again... I was not trying to say that what Keith does is of a lesser value, by no means no. He is doing a great favor to all of us, and a great job, too. However, how many of us here are the representatives commercial companies that sell biodiesel or any biofuel on commercial level already. Only those guys would be interested in the news, but they already know those news, it comes from them or their activities. If I am wrong, great, I did not want to offend anyone, I just did some reality check for myself. About the contributions- I just have finished a closed loop reactor for biodiesel production, bought some extra land to grow raps to prove to everyone in this poor country called Lithuania that it possible for farmers to sustain themselves as far as fuel is concerned. Farmers there, including my dad, are bitching about high fuell prices, low subsidies, etc. The results will be visible this fall. Then I will publish it here, though I do not have a web site. So, I miss Jan from Poland emails, other guys who are making the equipment letters and notices, etc. Where is a technical stuff. Or it became a matter of money? Or no one wants (except Alex, Simon, Ian and couple of others) to share the technology, findings because they can sell it now? Or everyone is already SO busy making a biodiesel and other biofuels and selling it that they do not have time to post a success story, ah? Or, maybe I am in a wrong group, instead of biofuels-biz maybe there is biofuels-tech, so I apologize for this and previous letters. Again, has anyone experimented on continuous flow mixing, pressure and temperature values for process optimization, other way of washing, filtration, etc? Keith, you're doing great just do not loose your focus- it is about a little guy, not the corporations. With respect, Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] It is not about biofuels anymore
What the hell happened to this group- for the last half a year I have been reading here more about political problems related to other fuels than biodiesel. Even biofuel like methanol or ethanol is not of the concern here since no one individually could produce alcohol for this purpose( or some agency will knock on the door). So lets keep the focus where it belongs- biofuels technology for everyone. I just do not want to read political news in this group. Where is that technical stuff? Anybody experimenting with pressure making the biodiesel, any other breakthrough things, like Alex's updates, has anyone tried continuous mixing reaction? What the hell happened to you, people? Are you gone, or is it Keith only reprinting the news that does not relate here? Especially Iraqi's oils crap. Like it is going to affect biodiesel regulation or something in the near term. I got mad. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Digest Number 98
Hi Where can I get an inexpensive centrifugal separator? Currently I am filtering biodiesel without wash step, but I am using celite as a filtration aid. It is getting too costly... Please help. --- goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a small biodiesel plant design at present. It is contained within an industrial spec. trailer with an A frame on a 'fifth wheel' and has a 200l boiler, a 200l mixer and centrifugal filter/ separator. I plan to have it on the market in April 2002 ... Paddy __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] small production plant
Can we see a link to this modular plant? Who is the owner of the design? --- Pedro M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It´s very interesting a modular plant. This is a plant that can increase following the user´s needs. One could patent the plant design and give it for free to the new companies for free years ( upto they are able pay the plant design ). All the best. - Original Message - From: John Cromarty To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] small production plant Hi. I am looking for information on a small bio-diesel plant capable of processing about 30 tonnes of used veg oil per year. So far all the commercial plants have been much larger than my needs and consequentially uneconomic. Any help would be appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Quiet...
Congratulations, I think you will be able to do it, especially now, when US is still not aware of the benefits of the biofuels. If you're the first in the market, you will be succesfull later. And by the way, it is much easier to get equipment in states than in Europe. Howwever, the fresh oil supply is more expensive, unless you get the waste vegetable oil for free from burger joints. Good luck, --- Pat McCotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the kick. I just joined a couple days ago. I am walking, nay, running, to the archives right now to see if my questions can be answered concerning government regs in setting up a mini-refinery, taxation (I'm in Connecticut, US, and I see that UK does tax biodiesel) on sale of product, etc. I have talked to in power Democratic folks about it - Biodiesel? What's that? So, again, thanks for the kick. Pat From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Quiet... Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:33:55 +0900 There are 85 of us here now. Why so quiet? Good biz ain't made by lurking, guys. Best Keith Addison _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
