Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-29 Thread Addison Griffith
  

  
  
Mike and D this is just the tip of the iceberg of what our government is doing 
to undermine our country and the US citizens. I have been sitting here and 
reading the posts of yours and Keith's, Mike W,Kirk & Jason just to name a few. 
Now it has been brought to my attention concerning the mass human detention 
camps that was authorized on Jan 24, 2006 by the Dept. of Homeland Security, 
they gave a contract to Halliburton to construct 5 huge camps in various parts 
of the US.
  This is just an excerpt of the article:
   
   
  Don't mind that barbed wire
Tuesday, February 07, 2006  

  
  I guess it only makes sense, in that Bushworld kinda way, that when the 
government starts building mass detention centers that Halliburton would get 
the contract:

  http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/02/dont-mind-that-barbed-wire.html
  This is all done under the guise of detaining illegal  immigrants, however I 
have discovered that the real reason is to house millions upon millions of 
poverty stricken Americans who will be destitute and homeless in the very near 
future. This being caused by the advent of the oil shortage that is coming in 
the very next few years. I have been reading and researching the peak oil 
problem for over a year and we are getting closer every day to the inevitable.
  Our government is not doing anything to help in developing alternative 
sources of energy, as I view it, it is now too late to do anything 
realistically.
  Mike, like the Real ID act, someone needs to step up to the plate and take a 
stand for our country. It cannot be a Republican or Democrat, they are one and 
the same. I think the only route that we can take is an independent or third 
party candidate for the 2008 election.
  I would like some input from the list concerning this matter.
  I live in Arkansas, so maybe we will have an opportunity to get together some 
day.
  A. Griffith

M&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  This is freakin news to me, D!!!  And an outrage  Anyone see last 
Tuesday evening's Boston Legal?  Prepping the American public?  It included 
Denny Crane having to go to court to get his name off a list of suspected 
terrorists that included the name "Denny Crane."  Because his name was on the 
list, he was not able to fly on a commercial airline.  Unfortunately, the show 
made no mention of a National I.D. Card, which it could have.  Anyway, looks 
like beginning in May, 2008, doing business in Amerika (ie, living) changes 
dramatically...just in time for the elections in November...to give those 
bastards something to say they'll overturn just to get elected, then do 
nothing, especially Hillary if that bitch gets the nomination, as she is 
already on record for the implanting of RFID chips (see Frist-Clinton bill, S. 
1262, also this link:  
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_2089.shtml  Peace? Light? 
"Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy
 form from off my door! Quoth the Raven, 'Nevermore.'" Mike DuPree
- Original Message - 
  From: D. Mindock 
  To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:16 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
  

  The national ID card is an important method to take away any semblance of
  freedom in Amerika. Blurb below is from an alt medicine list. Slowly but
  surely we are being herded into the allopathic, high cost, deadly, model
  of medicine with its emphasis on drugs and surgery. Peace, D. Mindock
  P.S. Stop shopping, start agitating. We have the power to stop the demolition
  of our democracy.
   
   
  Subject: I.D. Cards 

Dear friends, forgive the politics on the list, but I see a grave danger
coming up to Rifers* in particular. The new National I.D. Cards were passed
last year in Congress, and will take effect in 2008 unless we stop it. It
will have an RFI chip in it and the government will be able to track you at
all times. Why this applies to us in particular is that if your number is
"accidently" turned off in I.D. Central, you will not be able to do a
banking transaction, cross a bridge or get on a toll road, fly in a plane or
get a drivers license or passport.You will be neutralized with a keystroke.
With the medical paradigm crumbling fast, and noting the fact that rifers
have already been charged as terrorists under the Patriot Act [like our dear
Ian in China et. al, think how vulnerable we will all be to having our new
numbers turned off because we threaten the status quo and big bucks
medicine!
Please watch this 2 hour google video made by the award-winning director
Aaron Russo- 
  <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198>
  
The first half deals with the IRS and the second deals with the I.D. Cards.
We need to put pressure on congress to reverse this or we may be in for some
chilling times. All my love, lee 
   
*Note: The Rife machine uses frequencies to 

Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-23 Thread M&K DuPree
e minimum standards set forth in this title.

  (b) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated 
to the Secretary for each of the fiscal years 2005 through 2009 such sums as 
may be necessary to carry out this title.

SEC. 205. AUTHORITY.

  (a) Participation of Secretary of Transportation and States- All authority to 
issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title shall be 
carried out by the Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of 
Transportation and the States.

  (b) Extensions of Deadlines- The Secretary may grant to a State an extension 
of time to meet the requirements of section 202(a)(1) if the State provides 
adequate justification for noncompliance.

SEC. 206. REPEAL.

  Section 7212 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 
(Public Law 108-458) is repealed.

SEC. 207. LIMITATION ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

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responsibilities of the Secretary of Transportation or the States under chapter 
303 of title 49, United States Code.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirk McLoren 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers


  Hey Malcolm I just spent a half hour watching a bunch of videos associated 
with your url.
  Very funny stuff except for the thought their vote counts as much as ours.
  Has to be seen to be believed.

  Kirk

  malcolm maclure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey D, you missed something out there when you talk about apathy / sleeping,
& that's stupidity! (Not that I would apply that to all in the US &
certainly not those on this list, so no offence intended guys!!) But the
link below is a testament to the successful job a succession of US
governments have made to keep the majority of US citizens "dumbed down" &
therefore more controllable, & yes before anyone jumps down my throat we
    have 'em here in the UK too! We call them Chavs, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY8u54jFubM


Peace indeed & god help us...whoever he is

Regards
Malcolm



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Sent: 22 January 2007 20:01
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

Hi Mike,
I am just outside MO, 15 miles east of St Louis.
Yep, if people aren't worried about the way this country is transforming
into corporatism/fascism , they are either asleep/apathetic or have given
up all hope. We do have the ability to reverse the trend. Stop shopping,
avoid prescript drugs/vaccinations, eat organic, do demos, sickouts, 
slowdowns,
marches, keep your kids out of the military, etc. Do not feed the
beast.
Peace, D. Mindock


> Doug, pause the film and write down the various documentation provided to
> substantiate Russo's claims, then check them out for yourself. Or, even
> easier, Google "National I.D. Card" or "Real ID Act." Things change
> dramatically in Amerika in May, 2008, Doug. Things change dramatically.
> After you have checked this out for yourself, please write back. I'd like
> to hear what you think then. D and Jason are in Missouri, you're in 
> Kansas.
> I live in Lawrence. Perhaps what is coming will give us all cause to 
> cross
> paths. Mike DuPree
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Doug Younker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
>
>
>> The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows
>> by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really
>> study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's
>> mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's
>> been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't? I do believe
>> they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.
>>
>> Doug, N0LKK
>> Kansas USA inc.
>> *IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other
>> than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.
>>


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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
Hey Malcolm I just spent a half hour watching a bunch of videos associated with 
your url.
  Very funny stuff except for the thought their vote counts as much as ours.
  Has to be seen to be believed.
   
  Kirk

malcolm maclure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hey D, you missed something out there when you talk about apathy / sleeping,
& that's stupidity! (Not that I would apply that to all in the US &
certainly not those on this list, so no offence intended guys!!) But the
link below is a testament to the successful job a succession of US
governments have made to keep the majority of US citizens "dumbed down" &
therefore more controllable, & yes before anyone jumps down my throat we
have 'em here in the UK too! We call them Chavs, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY8u54jFubM


Peace indeed & god help us...whoever he is

Regards
Malcolm



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock
Sent: 22 January 2007 20:01
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

Hi Mike,
I am just outside MO, 15 miles east of St Louis.
Yep, if people aren't worried about the way this country is transforming
into corporatism/fascism , they are either asleep/apathetic or have given
up all hope. We do have the ability to reverse the trend. Stop shopping,
avoid prescript drugs/vaccinations, eat organic, do demos, sickouts, 
slowdowns,
marches, keep your kids out of the military, etc. Do not feed the
beast.
Peace, D. Mindock


> Doug, pause the film and write down the various documentation provided to
> substantiate Russo's claims, then check them out for yourself. Or, even
> easier, Google "National I.D. Card" or "Real ID Act." Things change
> dramatically in Amerika in May, 2008, Doug. Things change dramatically.
> After you have checked this out for yourself, please write back. I'd like
> to hear what you think then. D and Jason are in Missouri, you're in 
> Kansas.
> I live in Lawrence. Perhaps what is coming will give us all cause to 
> cross
> paths. Mike DuPree
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Doug Younker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
>
>
>> The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows
>> by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really
>> study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's
>> mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's
>> been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't? I do believe
>> they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.
>>
>> Doug, N0LKK
>> Kansas USA inc.
>> *IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other
>> than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.
>>


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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread D. Mindock

Hi Roberto,


> malcolm maclure wrote:
>
>>Hey D, you missed something out there when you talk about apathy / 
>>sleeping,
>>& that's stupidity!
>>
>
>We've discussed this sort of thing before, but the list members who
> fall into that group tend to become quickly disgruntled and leave in an
> indignant huff, stating things like: "Those Biofuel liberals bash
> America," and "What do you mean Iraq didn't attack us?"

Well, it does sorta separate the wheat from the chaff.

>
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY8u54jFubM
>>
>>
>
>Sadly, one only needs to look at our president to realize that
> people like these voted for him . . .  There are MILLIONS of them!
>
>How come nobody ever asks ME questions like that?

Hmm. Maybe you gotta drive a beatup pickup with a rifle in the rear window? 
LoL.

>
>>Peace indeed & god help us...whoever he is
>>
>
>Help is on the way!
>
>: - )
Obrigado. We need all the help we can get down here in BushCo land.

Peace, D. Mindock


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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread robert and benita rabello
malcolm maclure wrote:

>Hey D, you missed something out there when you talk about apathy / sleeping,
>& that's stupidity!
>

We've discussed this sort of thing before, but the list members who 
fall into that group tend to become quickly disgruntled and leave in an 
indignant huff, stating things like: "Those Biofuel liberals bash 
America," and "What do you mean Iraq didn't attack us?"

>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY8u54jFubM
>  
>

Sadly, one only needs to look at our president to realize that 
people like these voted for him . . .  There are MILLIONS of them!

How come nobody ever asks ME questions like that?

>Peace indeed & god help us...whoever he is
>

Help is on the way! 

: - )

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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread malcolm maclure
Hey D, you missed something out there when you talk about apathy / sleeping,
& that's stupidity! (Not that I would apply that to all in the US &
certainly not those on this list, so no offence intended guys!!) But the
link below is a testament to the successful job a succession of US
governments have made to keep the majority of US citizens "dumbed down" &
therefore more controllable, & yes before anyone jumps down my throat we
have 'em here in the UK too! We call them Chavs, lol.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY8u54jFubM


Peace indeed & god help us...whoever he is

Regards
Malcolm



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Sent: 22 January 2007 20:01
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

Hi Mike,
  I am just outside MO, 15 miles east of St Louis.
  Yep, if people aren't worried about the way this country is transforming
into corporatism/fascism , they are either asleep/apathetic or have given
up all hope. We do have the ability to reverse the trend. Stop shopping,
avoid prescript drugs/vaccinations, eat organic, do demos, sickouts, 
slowdowns,
marches, keep your kids out of the military, etc. Do not feed the
beast.
Peace, D. Mindock


> Doug, pause the film and write down the various documentation provided to
> substantiate Russo's claims, then check them out for yourself.  Or, even
> easier, Google "National I.D. Card" or "Real ID Act."  Things change
> dramatically in Amerika in May, 2008, Doug.  Things change dramatically.
> After you have checked this out for yourself, please write back.  I'd like
> to hear what you think then.  D and Jason are in Missouri, you're in 
> Kansas.
> I live in Lawrence.  Perhaps what is coming will give us all cause to 
> cross
> paths.  Mike DuPree
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Doug Younker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
>
>
>> The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows
>> by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really
>> study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's
>> mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's
>> been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't?  I do believe
>> they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.
>>
>> Doug, N0LKK
>> Kansas USA inc.
>> *IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other
>> than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.
>>


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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Mike,
  I am just outside MO, 15 miles east of St Louis.
  Yep, if people aren't worried about the way this country is transforming
into corporatism/fascism , they are either asleep/apathetic or have given
up all hope. We do have the ability to reverse the trend. Stop shopping,
avoid prescript drugs/vaccinations, eat organic, do demos, sickouts, 
slowdowns,
marches, keep your kids out of the military, etc. Do not feed the
beast.
Peace, D. Mindock


> Doug, pause the film and write down the various documentation provided to
> substantiate Russo's claims, then check them out for yourself.  Or, even
> easier, Google "National I.D. Card" or "Real ID Act."  Things change
> dramatically in Amerika in May, 2008, Doug.  Things change dramatically.
> After you have checked this out for yourself, please write back.  I'd like
> to hear what you think then.  D and Jason are in Missouri, you're in 
> Kansas.
> I live in Lawrence.  Perhaps what is coming will give us all cause to 
> cross
> paths.  Mike DuPree
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Doug Younker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers
>
>
>> The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows
>> by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really
>> study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's
>> mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's
>> been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't?  I do believe
>> they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.
>>
>> Doug, N0LKK
>> Kansas USA inc.
>> *IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other
>> than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.
>>


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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-22 Thread M&K DuPree
Doug, pause the film and write down the various documentation provided to 
substantiate Russo's claims, then check them out for yourself.  Or, even 
easier, Google "National I.D. Card" or "Real ID Act."  Things change 
dramatically in Amerika in May, 2008, Doug.  Things change dramatically. 
After you have checked this out for yourself, please write back.  I'd like 
to hear what you think then.  D and Jason are in Missouri, you're in Kansas. 
I live in Lawrence.  Perhaps what is coming will give us all cause to cross 
paths.  Mike DuPree

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Younker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers


> The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows
> by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really
> study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's
> mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's
> been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't?  I do believe
> they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.
>
> Doug, N0LKK
> Kansas USA inc.
> *IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other
> than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.
>
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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-21 Thread Doug Younker
The problem I have with films such is this is that the information flows 
by so fast, and without being provided a transcript one can't really 
study the issue, perhaps that's by design? I have long understood it's 
mostly about the wealth* and who is able to accumulate it, but that's 
been the case ever since humans banded into tribes hasn't?  I do believe 
they are vastly overstating the capabilities of RFID.

Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.
*IMO wealth is the better term to use, as there are many things other 
than money supply that can be use to extort the populace.

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Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-21 Thread M&K DuPree
This is freakin news to me, D!!!  And an outrage  Anyone see last Tuesday 
evening's Boston Legal?  Prepping the American public?  It included Denny Crane 
having to go to court to get his name off a list of suspected terrorists that 
included the name "Denny Crane."  Because his name was on the list, he was not 
able to fly on a commercial airline.  Unfortunately, the show made no mention 
of a National I.D. Card, which it could have.  Anyway, looks like beginning in 
May, 2008, doing business in Amerika (ie, living) changes dramatically...just 
in time for the elections in November...to give those bastards something to say 
they'll overturn just to get elected, then do nothing, especially Hillary if 
that bitch gets the nomination, as she is already on record for the implanting 
of RFID chips (see Frist-Clinton bill, S. 1262, also this link:  
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_2089.shtml  Peace? Light? 
"Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door! Quoth the 
Raven, 'Nevermore.'" Mike DuPree
  - Original Message - 
  From: D. Mindock 
  To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:16 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers


  The national ID card is an important method to take away any semblance of
  freedom in Amerika. Blurb below is from an alt medicine list. Slowly but
  surely we are being herded into the allopathic, high cost, deadly, model
  of medicine with its emphasis on drugs and surgery. Peace, D. Mindock
  P.S. Stop shopping, start agitating. We have the power to stop the demolition
  of our democracy.


  Subject: I.D. Cards 

  Dear friends, forgive the politics on the list, but I see a grave danger
  coming up to Rifers* in particular. The new National I.D. Cards were passed
  last year in Congress, and will take effect in 2008 unless we stop it. It
  will have an RFI chip in it and the government will be able to track you at
  all times. Why this applies to us in particular is that if your number is
  "accidently" turned off in I.D. Central, you will not be able to do a
  banking transaction, cross a bridge or get on a toll road, fly in a plane or
  get a drivers license or passport.You will be neutralized with a keystroke.
  With the medical paradigm crumbling fast, and noting the fact that rifers
  have already been charged as terrorists under the Patriot Act [like our dear
  Ian in China et. al, think how vulnerable we will all be to having our new
  numbers turned off because we threaten the status quo and big bucks
  medicine!
  Please watch this 2 hour google video made by the award-winning director
  Aaron Russo- 
  <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198>

  The first half deals with the IRS and the second deals with the I.D. Cards.
  We need to put pressure on congress to reverse this or we may be in for some
  chilling times. All my love, lee 

  *Note: The Rife machine uses frequencies to alleviate most diseases and
  has been in existance since the 1920's when it was developed by
  Dr. Royal Raymond Rife, then squelched by the AMA. More info at rife.org


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[Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-21 Thread D. Mindock
The national ID card is an important method to take away any semblance of
freedom in Amerika. Blurb below is from an alt medicine list. Slowly but
surely we are being herded into the allopathic, high cost, deadly, model
of medicine with its emphasis on drugs and surgery. Peace, D. Mindock
P.S. Stop shopping, start agitating. We have the power to stop the demolition
of our democracy.


Subject: I.D. Cards 

Dear friends, forgive the politics on the list, but I see a grave danger
coming up to Rifers* in particular. The new National I.D. Cards were passed
last year in Congress, and will take effect in 2008 unless we stop it. It
will have an RFI chip in it and the government will be able to track you at
all times. Why this applies to us in particular is that if your number is
"accidently" turned off in I.D. Central, you will not be able to do a
banking transaction, cross a bridge or get on a toll road, fly in a plane or
get a drivers license or passport.You will be neutralized with a keystroke.
With the medical paradigm crumbling fast, and noting the fact that rifers
have already been charged as terrorists under the Patriot Act [like our dear
Ian in China et. al, think how vulnerable we will all be to having our new
numbers turned off because we threaten the status quo and big bucks
medicine!
Please watch this 2 hour google video made by the award-winning director
Aaron Russo- 


The first half deals with the IRS and the second deals with the I.D. Cards.
We need to put pressure on congress to reverse this or we may be in for some
chilling times. All my love, lee 

*Note: The Rife machine uses frequencies to alleviate most diseases and
has been in existance since the 1920's when it was developed by
Dr. Royal Raymond Rife, then squelched by the AMA. More info at rife.org___
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