Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Skipperx wrote: Dear Ethanol users, The below information (re: modifications to car to run on ethanol) is incorrect in my experience. I live in Brazil and I export conversion kit (petrol to ethanol) to Australia. Kits in Australia are being used in both vehicles manufactured by both Holden (GM) and Ford. Here in Brazil the kits are used in Fiats, VW's, GM's, Ford's, Nissan, Honda's, etc, etc. with NO modifications; that is on MULTI POINT fuel injection vehicles. These included 4, 6 and 8 cylinder cars. This is consistent with the Flextek company statements. There is no need to increase the compression of petrol engines vehicles produced in the past 5 years or so. The new engines in car produced today have higher compression ratings than in the past. Not as high as the flex power engines, but higher than previous petrol engines. I believe you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to communicate. Here's what I wrote: It would also be helpful to increase compression pressure by some means, if ethanol will be the primary fuel. Helpful is not mandatory. A conversion certainly doesn't have to have its compression pressure increased. Ethanol is, however, more resistant to spontaneous combustion and as a result, can be squeezed harder without risk of detonation. This will improve the thermal efficiency and power of the engine. Much research supports this idea, and I have a lot of experience running gaseous fuels in converted gasoline engines to substantiate my claim. There will be a need to change the fuel pump at some stage (2 to 5 years) as the ethanol corrodes the copper used on the bushes of the pump. The ethanol pumps use graphite instead of copper, and silver wires instead of copper wires. It costs about US$ 50. This makes sense. Thank you for clarifying. I wouldn't bother trying to change a carburetor based engine, these engines were always a hassle for cold starting even here in Brasil where it is quite warm (compared to Canada) all year round, and where the big car amnufacturers here producing 100's of thousands of units. The conversion kits can come with small ptrol tanks (1 litre) which is used for cold starting. Most of the information that's been available for ethanol conversions in North America was published in the 1970's and 1980's, when carburetors were still the dominant fuel management system on automobiles. Within the last few months, a trickle of information concerning electronic fuel management for ethanol conversions has become available. I would really like to run my truck on ethanol, if the legal issues can be worked out. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
I would really like to run my truck on ethanol, if the legal issues can be worked out. Robert, what legal issues are you talking about? I am in america, so I don't think there will be any issues for me, but what are you coming across? How would you increase the compression? And in doing so, what effect would this have on fuel consumption and emissions? Thanks, Ryan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
robert luis rabello wrote: YOU can obtain a distillation permit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to distill your own ethanol. There is no such provision in Canada for individuals. I'm trying to do this through my business right now, but the people at Revenue Canada never answer their phones and are NOT returning my calls! Robert; You raise an issue I am concerned about. Have you or anyone on the list looked into the issue of distillation with regard to biodiesel production in Canada. I heard that stills are required to be registered in Canada even for distillation of water. The reactors that we use and the way we recover methanol could be considered a form of distillation although my vacuum unit is technically more like a refinery than a distillation apparatus. I have been wondering what the pros and cons are of this terminology and which would be better in terms of applying for a permit. I see this as a potential sticking point whereby biodiesel production could fall under existing regulations in this country and thereby be subject to rules and regulations and taxes etc that could eventually make it difficult for the average person to make thier own fuel. Does anybody have any ideas on this? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Robert Rabello Flextek can be used in most repeat in most engines not all of them. Instead increasing compression ratio it changes ignition timing. Potential problems are fuel pump "erosion" type unless changed to typical alcohol fuel pump and winter time ignition. This part is solved by using a small reservoir of gasoline using an small electric pump like the one used to flush water to clean the windshield. Most of the elastomer are compatible with alcohol so low probability in having problems in here. Very best for all of us. Chico robert luis rabello wrote: Ryan Hall wrote: Robert, I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately. I personally want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI gasoline cars right now. The flextek device offers great promise for me to "do my part" now without waiting until I buy my Jetta. That's the promise. I don't know if the technology will deliver, but it seems like an elegant solution to the problem of modifying EFI engines to run on ethanol. Personally, I would still boost the compression ratio or run forced induction, as I do with my truck. There's no sense in running 105 octane fuel in an engine designed for low grade pump gas. Nonetheless, the Flextek system should work on an engine that is unmodified. My question is, where do you get E100. Is this available at the pumps, or is it something you would need to get elsewhere. A city about 45 miles from where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100. If I have the choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there (usually about 1-2 times/week.) Fuel stations in Brasil have been selling E 100 for many years now, but that would be a long way for you and I to drive for a fill up, don't you think? E 85, which is available in some American states, is likely your best option, unless you want to get a BATF permit and distill your own ethanol. I wish I could do that here in Canada! robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
I forgot to inform Flextek will work in most _*injected*_ engines FRANCISCO wrote: Robert Rabello Flextek can be used in most repeat in _*most*_ engines not all of them. Instead increasing compression ratio it changes ignition timing. Potential problems are fuel pump erosion type unless changed to typical alcohol fuel pump and winter time ignition. This part is solved by using a small reservoir of gasoline using an small electric pump like the one used to flush water to clean the windshield. Most of the elastomer are compatible with alcohol so low probability in having problems in here. Very best for all of us. Chico robert luis rabello wrote: Ryan Hall wrote: Robert, I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately. I personally want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI gasoline cars right now. The flextek device offers great promise for me to do my part now without waiting until I buy my Jetta. That's the promise. I don't know if the technology will deliver, but it seems like an elegant solution to the problem of modifying EFI engines to run on ethanol. Personally, I would still boost the compression ratio or run forced induction, as I do with my truck. There's no sense in running 105 octane fuel in an engine designed for low grade pump gas. Nonetheless, the Flextek system should work on an engine that is unmodified. My question is, where do you get E100. Is this available at the pumps, or is it something you would need to get elsewhere. A city about 45 miles from where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100. If I have the choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there (usually about 1-2 times/week.) Fuel stations in Brasil have been selling E 100 for many years now, but that would be a long way for you and I to drive for a fill up, don't you think? E 85, which is available in some American states, is likely your best option, unless you want to get a BATF permit and distill your own ethanol. I wish I could do that here in Canada! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Luis Eduardo Puerto wrote: I don't know very much of E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is being produced in big quantities as well as in USA. I don't know where exactly you can get it in Canada. It's not available here, at least on the west coast. We have a company that blends a small percentage of ethanol into its gasoline, but I'm sure it's no better than E 10. I have a question, for what type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be used with any car at all?? Any car that runs gasoline will be able to use ethanol. Older models require replacing rubber parts in the fuel system, changes to the carburetor jets, and some sort of fuel preheating device for cold weather. Newer, fuel injected vehicles sold in North America may have ethanol resistant parts from the factory, but cannot run ethanol blends greater than 50% without changes to the injector pulse width. This makes ethanol conversion more difficult for the average person. I know that biodiesel only suits diesel engines with no modification required, but the ethanol I don't know its implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to know. Unlike biodiesel, the fuel system in a gasoline engine MUST be modified to run ethanol. It would also be helpful to increase compression pressure by some means, if ethanol will be the primary fuel. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
FRANCISCO wrote: Flextek can be used in most repeat in most engines not all of them. Instead increasing compression ratio it changes ignition timing. I think, perhaps, a language issue is cropping up here. The Flextek device plugs into the automobile's fuel injector harness. It modifies the length of the injection pulse, not the ignition timing, which refers to the crankshaft angle when spark is delivered to the cylinder. I mentioned increasing compression pressure, though doing so isn't recommended in the Flextek promotional literature, merely because it makes thermodynamic sense to do so. Ethanol tolerates high compression pressures far better than gasoline. The fuel I run in my truck right now costs about $1.10 per liter. I can't run low grade gasoline in my vehicle, but ethanol would work very well. The engine would burn cleaner and run cooler than it does at present. Potential problems are fuel pump erosion type unless changed to typical alcohol fuel pump and winter time ignition. I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're writing here. I believe you're telling me that potential problems exist with the fuel pump, perhaps because of parts compatibility with ethanol. Most fuel systems with which I am familiar constantly circulate fuel between the tank and the injector system, so additional wear on the pump should not be an issue. If I'm in error, please let me know. This part is solved by using a small reservoir of gasoline using an small electric pump like the one used to flush water to clean the windshield. This is a solution to cold weather starting issues. Most of the elastomer are compatible with alcohol so low probability in having problems in here. This is why you've given the caveat that MOST modern gasoline engines will work with ethanol. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Hey Robert Luis, thank you very much for your answer man Now I understand the implications of ethanol. Until next. Luis Eduardo Puerto wrote: I don't know very much of E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is being produced in big quantities as well as in USA. I don't know where exactly you can get it in Canada.It's not available here, at least on the west coast. We have a company that blends a small percentage of ethanol into its gasoline, but I'm sure it's no better than E 10. I have a question, for what type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be used with any car at all??Any car that runs gasoline will be able to use ethanol. Older models require replacing rubber parts in the fuel system, changes to the carburetor jets, and some sort of fuel preheating device for cold weather. Newer, fuel injected vehicles sold in North America may have ethanol resistant parts from the factory, but cannot run ethanol blends greater than 50% without changes to the injector pulse width. This makes ethanol conversion more difficult for the average person. I know that biodiesel only suits diesel engines with no modification required, but the ethanol I don't know its implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to know. Unlike biodiesel, the fuel system in a gasoline engine MUST be modified to run ethanol. It would also be helpful to increase compression pressure by some means, if ethanol will be the primary fuel.robert luis rabello"The Edge of Justice"Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/__Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Dear Ethanol users, The below information (re: modifications to car to run on ethanol) is incorrect in my experience. I live in Brazil and I export conversion kit (petrol to ethanol) to Australia. Kits in Australia are being used in both vehicles manufactured by both Holden (GM) and Ford. Here in Brazil the kits are used in Fiats, VW's, GM's, Ford's, Nissan, Honda's, etc, etc. with NO modifications; that is on MULTI POINT fuel injection vehicles. These included 4, 6 and 8 cylinder cars. There is no need to increase the compression of petrol engines vehicles produced in the past 5 years or so. The new engines in car produced today have higher compression ratings than in the past. Not as high as the flex power engines, but higher than previous petrol engines. There will be a need to change the fuel pump at some stage (2 to 5 years) as the ethanol corrodes the copper used on the bushes of the pump. The ethanol pumps use graphite instead of copper, and silver wires instead of copper wires. It costs about US$ 50. There are over 100,000 petrol vehicles in Brazil which have been fitted with kits to allow them to run on 100% ethanol or any mixture of petrol / ethanol; and I am not referring to the ` flex-powered vehicles' being manufactured by Ford, Gm, Fiat, VW, etc. I am referring to after market installed kits. I wouldn't bother trying to change a carburetor based engine, these engines were always a hassle for cold starting even here in Brasil where it is quite warm (compared to Canada) all year round, and where the big car amnufacturers here producing 100's of thousands of units. The conversion kits can come with small ptrol tanks (1 litre) which is used for cold starting. Skipper - Original Message - From: Luis Eduardo Puerto To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars? Hey Robert Luis, thank you very much for your answer man Now I understand the implications of ethanol. Until next. Luis Eduardo Puerto wrote: I don't know very much of E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is being produced in big quantities as well as in USA. I don't know where exactly you can get it in Canada.It's not available here, at least on the west coast. We have a company that blends a small percentage of ethanol into its gasoline, but I'm sure it's no better than E 10. I have a question, for what type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be used with any car at all??Any car that runs gasoline will be able to use ethanol. Older models require replacing rubber parts in the fuel system, changes to the carburetor jets, and some sort of fuel preheating device for cold weather. Newer, fuel injected vehicles sold in North America may have ethanol resistant parts from the factory, but cannot run ethanol blends greater than 50% without changes to the injector pulse width. This makes ethanol conversion more difficult for the average person. I know that biodiesel only suits diesel engines with no modification required, but the ethanol I don't know its implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to know. Unlike biodiesel, the fuel system in a gasoline engine MUST be modified to run ethanol. It would also be helpful to increase compression pressure by some means, if ethanol will be the primary fuel.robert luis rabello"The Edge of Justice"Adventure for Your Mindhttp://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search th
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Robert, I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately. I personally want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI gasoline cars right now. The flextek device offers great promise for me to do my part now without waiting until I buy my Jetta. My question is, where do you get E100. Is this available at the pumps, or is it something you would need to get elsewhere. A city about 45 miles from where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100. If I have the choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there (usually about 1-2 times/week.) Thanks, Ryan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Ryan Hall wrote: Robert, I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately. I personally want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI gasoline cars right now. The flextek device offers great promise for me to do my part now without waiting until I buy my Jetta. That's the promise. I don't know if the technology will deliver, but it seems like an elegant solution to the problem of modifying EFI engines to run on ethanol. Personally, I would still boost the compression ratio or run forced induction, as I do with my truck. There's no sense in running 105 octane fuel in an engine designed for low grade pump gas. Nonetheless, the Flextek system should work on an engine that is unmodified. My question is, where do you get E100. Is this available at the pumps, or is it something you would need to get elsewhere. A city about 45 miles from where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100. If I have the choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there (usually about 1-2 times/week.) Fuel stations in Brasil have been selling E 100 for many years now, but that would be a long way for you and I to drive for a fill up, don't you think? E 85, which is available in some American states, is likely your best option, unless you want to get a BATF permit and distill your own ethanol. I wish I could do that here in Canada! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
I don't know very much of E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is being produced in big quantities as well as in USA. I don't know where exactly you can get it in Canada. I have a question, for what type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be used with any car at all?? I know that biodiesel only suits diesel engines with no modification required, but the ethanol I don't know its implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to know. Best regards, Luis. __Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Matt Erickson wrote: Hi, I came across this Flextek product product at the link below from a Brazilian manufacturer. The site is marketed for a Brazil audience, but the FAQ's indicate that it would work on imported vehicles. With that in mind, I'm wondering if it would make a American non-FFV run on E85 (or even E100) ? Does anybody have information on if this is possible? I've posted this info on another list already, so if some of you find this redundant, please forgive me. The idea behind Flextek is that modern, closed loop EFI systems are capable of burning gasoline / ethanol blends of up to 50%. The Flextek wiring harness plugs directly between the injectors and the factory wiring harness. (It's a very simple installation.) The Flextek unit, when running in ethanol mode, modifies the signal to the injectors only, compensating for the burn characteristics of ethanol fuel by changing the injection pulse width. The user must manually select for blends greater than 50% ethanol, all the way up to pure ethanol. You should not have to change your injectors, though it might be a good idea to replace the rubber o-rings in the injector seats with viton units. Modern fuel pumps may be compatible, since there are so many FFV out there already. If I can get around the legal issues up here in Canada, I will try this unit out. At 150 Euros the four cylinder model is competitive with piggyback ECU devices that would have to be programmed. It would sure be nice to run high octane ethanol instead of high octane gasoline! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Hi, I came across this Flextek product product at the link below from a Brazilian manufacturer. The site is marketed for a Brazil audience, but the FAQ's indicate that it would work on imported vehicles. With that in mind, I'm wondering if it would make a American non-FFV run on E85 (or even E100) ? Does anybody have information on if this is possible? http://www.flextek.com.br/?lang=eng and- http://www.abcesso.santu.com/ Thanks, Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
