Re: [Biofuel] Global Rich List
Hallo Robert, What really brings it home for me is that I have been on a disability since Viet Nam and my income, down to the penny, is $16,542 per year which leaves us, here in the land of bend over and let me introduce myself, struggling, and we are not among the abject poor, yet we are still in the top 11.85 percent of the world in wealth. I remember being on RR in the Phillipines (Ano na Kabayan! Happy Happy ba tayo!) in the late sixties and thought that my 180-odd USD was pretty poor wages but then was told that the average YEARLY wage at that time in the Philippines was $30-something. I'm not much of an economist but it seems to me that even though incomes have raised prices still outstrip wages by far. There are many things for which I owe thanks to the military. One of the foremost things among the many is my having been afforded the chance to see how so much of the world lives in comparison to what those with just a modicum of wealth. The religion I was born into teaches us to do more with less, share the wealth, help where and when we are able, sacrifice our own comfort for those in need, and that no matter who or where or what we are we are all of equal value although our circumstances may differ. Well, we seem to be getting away from that now and our helping and sharing seems to be getting more and more impersonal. A sad situation. I don't believe that there is any more effective way of touching a person's heart than going directly to the source and seeing for oneself. Seeing, tasting and smelling poverty and want. Images on the television screen are all too often soon forgotten but when you combine that image with a smell it doesn't go away quickly if at all. My brother makes over $80,000 a year and his wife poor mouths me. She tells me she has to work because they can't afford to live in this economy without her working. Makes me ill. They have it in their heads that those without are lazy or stupid or somehow not worth bothering about. I think even worse is that they profess to care but hold their own confort and welfare to be more important than that of everyone else. I remember taking my brother down to Villa Acuna in Mexico just across the Rio Bravo from Del Rio and he wasn't there 5 minutes and he was afraid and wanted to go back across the border. He figured he would be robbed and killed down there among the poor Mexicans. In a border town where a woman can walk home at 3.00 in the morning without fear of being attacked, robbed or raped. A safe place after dark, at least back in the '70s. Who knows now? They may have picked up our values. So much ignorance and in my own family despite hearing me go on and on for years and years. All too many people just don't hear despite listening. I suppose this is why I say you have to change the heart first and then the mind will follow. The mind is fickle. It wants to move all the time and wants to control, define, explain away, rationalize, marginalize. Beware the mind. It allows us to justify that which is wrong and evil. It places value on pieces of wood (tally sticks) or paper or diamonds and our own comfort all the while telling us that yes, those starving and in need are important but not quite as important as our own comfort and safety and that of our own family, neighborhood, state, nation, religion, political persuasion, whatever. And I sit here writing this in my house which is deteriorating daily knowing that despite my little, 88.5 percent of the rest of the world has less, much less, than me and mine. It is frustrating. How do we touch those hearts of those who have? Personal example certainly, but what more? My wife's nephew, a wealthy businessman, believes me to be a fool. He complains over having to pay $1.25 a year in taxes to support public broadcasting yet he spends much more than that renting one pornographic video. He has graduated from college and is perhaps the brightest bulb in his family yet he lacks a healthy social conscience. How do folks like him have their hearts changed? I just keep praying personally and waiting but not expecting results. How on earth did our species allow its value system to become so skewed? I guess I should stop now. Speaking from frustration accomplishes little if anything. Fight the good fight brother. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 07 October, 2005, 22:14:51, you wrote: rlr Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo Folks, An interesting site: http://www.globalrichlist.com/ rlr Wow! I knew I was comfortable and doing well, but that's a REAL eye rlr opener! What have I ever done to be in such elite company? Gives one pause. rlr Indeed! Thanks Gustl! rlr robert luis rabello -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. The safest road to Hell is the gradual one -
Re: [Biofuel] Global Rich List
I live in a small house in a wealthy area and it never ceases to amaze me what people will do to keep up the "status" both parents working 12 hour days, nanny raising the kid and the house is still re-mortaged every year. Money is only one metric to measure wealth. Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo Robert, What really brings it home for me is that I have been on a disability since Viet Nam and my income, down to the penny, is $16,542 per year which leaves us, here in the land of "bend over and let me introduce myself", struggling, and we are not among the abject poor, yet we are still in the top 11.85 percent of the world in wealth. I remember being on RR in the Phillipines (Ano na Kabayan! Happy Happy ba tayo!) in the late sixties and thought that my 180-odd USD was pretty poor wages but then was told that the average YEARLY wage at that time in the Philippines was $30-something. I'm not much of an economist but it seems to me that even though incomes have raised prices still outstrip wages by far. There are many things for which I owe thanks to the military. One of the foremost things among the many is my having been afforded the chance to see how so much of the world lives in comparison to what those with just a modicum of wealth. The religion I was born into teaches us to do more with less, share the wealth, help where and when we are able, sacrifice our own comfort for those in need, and that no matter who or where or what we are we are all of equal value although our circumstances may differ. Well, we seem to be getting away from that now and our helping and sharing seems to be getting more and more impersonal. A sad situation. I don't believe that there is any more effective way of touching a person's heart than going directly to the source and seeing for oneself. Seeing, tasting and smelling poverty and want. Images on the television screen are all too often soon forgotten but when you combine that image with a smell it doesn't go away quickly if at all. My brother makes over $80,000 a year and his wife "poor mouths" me. She tells me she has to work because they can't afford to live in this economy without her working. Makes me ill. They have it in their heads that those without are lazy or stupid or somehow not worth bothering about. I think even worse is that they profess to care but hold their own confort and welfare to be more important than that of everyone else. I remember taking my brother down to Villa Acuna in Mexico just across the Rio Bravo from Del Rio and he wasn't there 5 minutes and he was afraid and wanted to go back across the border. He figured he would be robbed and killed down there among the poor Mexicans. In a border town where a woman can walk home at 3.00 in the morning without fear of being attacked, robbed or raped. A safe place after dark, at least back in the '70s. Who knows now? They may have picked up our values. So much ignorance and in my own family despite hearing me go on and on for years and years. All too many people just don't hear despite listening. I suppose this is why I say you have to change the heart first and then the mind will follow. The mind is fickle. It wants to move all the time and wants to control, define, explain away, rationalize, marginalize. Beware the mind. It allows us to justify that which is wrong and evil. It places value on pieces of wood (tally sticks) or paper or diamonds and our own comfort all the while telling us that yes, those starving and in need are important but not quite as important as our own comfort and safety and that of our own family, neighborhood, state, nation, religion, political persuasion, whatever. And I sit here writing this in my house which is deteriorating daily knowing that despite my little, 88.5 percent of the rest of the world has less, much less, than me and mine. It is frustrating. How do we touch those hearts of those who have? Personal example certainly, but what more? My wife's nephew, a wealthy businessman, believes me to be a fool. He complains over having to pay $1.25 a year in taxes to support public broadcasting yet he spends much more than that renting one pornographic video. He has graduated from college and is perhaps the brightest bulb in his family yet he lacks a healthy social conscience. How do folks like him have their hearts changed? I just keep praying personally and waiting but not expecting results. How on earth did our species allow its value system to become so skewed? I guess I should stop now. Speaking from frustration accomplishes little if anything. Fight the good fight brother. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 07 October, 2005, 22:14:51, you wrote: rlr Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo Folks, An interesting site: http://www.globalrichlist.com/ rlr Wow! I knew I was comfortable and
Re: [Biofuel] Mercedes 84
I used to say I was in the garage turning wrenches. Then I got air tools and had to modify my terminology since the wench doesn't spin, just the nuts... You got it. When my wife asked what I was doing, I would say,Nutin honey. Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Global Rich List
Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Hallo Robert, What really brings it home for me is that I have been on a disability since Viet Nam and my income, down to the penny, is $16,542 per year which leaves us, here in the land of bend over and let me introduce myself, struggling, and we are not among the abject poor, yet we are still in the top 11.85 percent of the world in wealth. I once asked a group of students if any of them considered themselves wealthy, and as is often the case, none of them raised their hands. Then I asked if any of them had ever gone more than 24 hours without eating a meal. I asked them if they'd ever envied what was in their neighbor's pet food dish, and so on. They thought me strange for asking these kinds of questions, until I began talking to them about the conditions that the vast majority of the world's population endures every day. Here in North America, many of us have wrapped ourselves in a kind of insulation; a deluded sense that we somehow DESERVE all the luxury we enjoy. I had a conversation with a man last summer in which he told me that those people in Africa don't want to work, and that's why they're going hungry. Though I've never been to Africa, that statement seemed incredibly ignorant. My family comes from Brasil. My mother grew up in a little town in Minas Gerais where I spent the first year or so of my life. We went down there again in 1972, and I remember the grinding poverty of the place. I remember sewage and trash in the streets. I recall the overwhelming stench of the slums around Rio (we called them favelas), and even as a child, though we weren't well off, the despair I witnessed in that place really bothered me. That same kind of hopelessness exists in North America, too. Many little towns in the interior of British Columbia overflow with a crushing sense that nothing can be done to improve a desperate situation. I've seen a family crowded into an uninsulated, A frame hut built of corrugated tin, with a hole in the ground outside for a toilet. These people lived through long winters in the north country . . . So here I sit in a comfortable, padded chair, staring into an expensive flat screen monitor, typing on a keyboard connected to a computer that has more processing power than most mainframes did back in the 1970s, reflecting upon my good fortune. It's cool and rainy outside, but my bare feet are warm on the heated floor. I will take a hot shower, put on my best clothes and drive an expensive machine to church this morning. Afterward, fourteen equally affluent family members will come over to celebrate Thanksgiving, and they will feast on the HUGE, dead bird my sweetheart has just put into the oven. Our table is set with expensive china, fragile crystal and silver cutlery. Yes, I am affluent. I don't feel guilty about it, nor do I consider myself deserving, just lucky. Yet I am constantly aware that my faith informs a responsibility to others who are NOT as fortunate. Even my advanced education can't erase the memory of where my family is from. Maybe my roots give me a stronger sense of social justice than is typical of others who are equally prosperous. I know, however, that the trap which you have described is a very easy one for people in my position to fall into. Thanks for the reminder, Gustl! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hoodia Gordonii ?
Hoodia with no fillers or additives is a very safe supplement. It is from a vegetable type of food source that has been eaten by people in Africa were it grows wild. It is very high in fiber which is the most important type of food for diabetes. I viewed a documentary on this food with the author visting a dessert in Africa and picking the cactus and eating it. The fiber was so high that the writer felt full for days after she ate the Hodia plant. Terry Dyck From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Hoodia Gordonii ? Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:42:09 -0400 List members, Does anybody know about this hard-to-find supplement for weight loss? It comes from a very rare cactus plant in South Africa. I have a weight problem which could lead soon to diabetes. There is a meager amount of information on the web of real value, a program on 60 minutes aired recently. I missed it. There are supposed to be alot of fake Hoodia G. products on the market now. I would like to know if any of you very respectible list members have heard about Hoodia Gordonii. Anywhere in the world Is Hoodia Gordonii the real thing? Or the latest scam? Thanks for looking at this email. Respectfully submitted, Michael in Alabama ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] atkins
On the discussion of the Atkins diet I would like to add the fact that people on this diet for a long period of time have a high risk of developing Kidney dissease according to studies done on people on the Atkins diet. The diet also can damage the liver. Heart disease is also a factor. I did a work shop for people with diabetes. What I found out when researching material about diabetes is that animal source saturated fat is one of the leading causes of type 2 diabetes. Foods that are high in fiber such as unproceesed vegetables, seeds, nuts and beans are the healthy way of preventing many diseases including type 2 diabetes, heart disease and cancer. Many people talk about carbohydrates with out realizing that there are 2 types of carbohydrates. simple carbohydrates such as sweateners are the bad foods but complex carbohydrates are the healthiest foods on the planet; they includes fresh unrefined vegetables. Of course local organically grown is the very best. Terry Dyck From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] atkins Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:59:15 -0400 On 10/6/05, Chris lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problem, there was a scientific study done on the Atkins diet in the UK early this year, weight, blood pressure and cholesterol tested every day and food consumption monitored. It seems people on that diet just do not eat as many calories as people eating carbs. They even had the test subjects locked in an air chamber monitoring the amount of waste gas being produced to work out energy lost in gas production and oily stools. But they did not expect the lower cholesterol levels and could not explain how the dropped. They thought that fresh cooked meat was better for you than processed and the oil used in cooking should only be used once and then dumped. Chris. Sounds like this particular study was comparing apples to oranges but, I might be reading something into it. However, it does certainly sounds by your description that the study compared an Atkins diet of fresh meats to an omniverous diet of processed foods. No doubt, a diet of refined carbohydrates is not a good diet. However, locally grown, organic whole grains are invaluable in many peoples' diets. Let's face it, the best diet is exercise. You can eat anything you want in moderation but, it won't help eating one thing or another unless you move your body. A few interesting things: There are fewer calories in 1 gram of carbohydrates than either proteins or fats. Fats contain the highest calory count per gram. Eat too much fat and it will be stored as fat for reserve. Protein is great but, if you eat too much, it will also be converted to fat and reserved. Of course, carbohydrates can also be stored as fat but, considering that they are the first used energy source, the chances of carbs being stored as fat are less. That is, providing that you eat only as much as your body can use or less. Carbohydrates are the first category that your body uses. Next is protein. Then fat. Eat more carbs and what is left for energy? Internal stores of fat. Whatever you eat, buying local, locally grown and organic will benefit everyone! And if you walk or ride your bike to pick it up, even better yet. Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Sen. Lieberman: Biofuel + Plug-In Hybrids on threshold of commercialization
Sen. Lieberman plans biofuel PHEV bill: legislative breakthrough This is by far the most specific and far-reaching proposal to date. -- Press release followed by news story: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/169 -- Speech excerpts, outline of plan and full text of speech: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/170 (WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO FORWARD) EXCERPTS This reality is bipartisan. My staff and I have spent as much time talking about these proposals with Republicans as with Democrats. My colleagues Senators Sam Brownback of Kansas and Evan Bayh of Indiana are particularly interested in setting America free from foreign oil dependence. We are ready to get serious, set the serious goals that eluded us in the past and take the bold steps necessary to reach those goals. ... we get the flexibility to power a car with fuel made from corn, prairie grass, or agricultural waste from our own heartland that will cost a lot less than gasoline does today Making them flexible fuel cars, as Ive already said, can save us more than 2 million barrels of gasoline a day. But we can do even better dramatically better with the plug-in hybrid that is just now on the threshold of commercialization. ...Plugging in your car during off peak hours when power is in surplus and cheaper would soon just become part of the modern daily routine, like plugging in your cell phone or PDA before you go to bed. And off-peak electricity can be the equivalent of 50 cent a gallon gasoline. This isnt pie in the sky. These vehicles could be in your garage within a couple of years. Some of the incentives for achieving this were included in the Energy bill signed into law in August. But they did not go nearly far enough. We need to couple these incentives with real performance standards and sales requirements to ensure that as soon as possible new cars are running not just on gasoline but on biofuels and electricity. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Felix Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder California Cars Initiative http://www.calcars.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news http://groups.yahoo.com/group/priusplus http://www.hybridcars.com/blogs/power -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Sen. Lieberman: Biofuel + Plug-In Hybrids on threshold of commercialization
Well this would sure help the coal and nuclear industries out with the hybrids. If the power was from wind and methane digester great, otherwise we would just get the rest of the carbon freed up in the air -no? I like the biofuel idea though! or am I off base? Felix Kramer wrote: Sen. Lieberman plans biofuel PHEV bill: legislative breakthrough This is by far the most specific and far-reaching proposal to date. -- Press release followed by news story: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/169 -- Speech excerpts, outline of plan and full text of speech: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/170 (WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO FORWARD) EXCERPTS This reality is bipartisan. My staff and I have spent as much time talking about these proposals with Republicans as with Democrats. My colleagues Senators Sam Brownback of Kansas and Evan Bayh of Indiana are particularly interested in setting America free from foreign oil dependence. We are ready to get serious, set the serious goals that eluded us in the past and take the bold steps necessary to reach those goals. ... we get the flexibility to power a car with fuel made from corn, prairie grass, or agricultural waste from our own heartland that will cost a lot less than gasoline does today Making them flexible fuel cars, as I’ve already said, can save us more than 2 million barrels of gasoline a day. But we can do even better – dramatically better – with the plug-in hybrid that is just now on the threshold of commercialization. ...Plugging in your car during off peak hours –when power is in surplus and cheaper – would soon just become part of the modern daily routine, like plugging in your cell phone or PDA before you go to bed. And off-peak electricity can be the equivalent of 50 cent a gallon gasoline. This isn’t pie in the sky. These vehicles could be in your garage within a couple of years. Some of the incentives for achieving this were included in the Energy bill signed into law in August. But they did not go nearly far enough. We need to couple these incentives with real performance standards and sales requirements to ensure that as soon as possible new cars are running not just on gasoline but on biofuels and electricity. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Felix Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder California Cars Initiative http://www.calcars.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news http://groups.yahoo.com/group/priusplus http://www.hybridcars.com/blogs/power -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] atkins
Thanks Terry your comments are helpfully and right on in my mind,
however I would like add a note that Adkins diet and several others like
it do not advocate the total lack of carbohydrates or severe
elimination. They advocate just what you have said here GOOD Carbs are
the KEY, It is a three phase affair: {vegetarians can also use this
diet using tofu but remember protein and oils are key}
1) Weight loss phase 1 - Induction 2 weeks severe carb reduction,
(includes high water intake for liver and kidney functions) include
fish, Lean beef, cheese, flax seed oil. (I would actually enjoy fish oil
and got a nice energy buzz from it) (stay away from Pig fat bacons etc
[additives]) (healthy stuff is key here)
2) Weight loss phase 2 - Introduction of some very good carb sources but
go slow - just watch the scale, till you reach a good healthy weight.
EXERCISE is INCLUDED.
3) Life time diet phase 3 - No sugars ever. stevia or Xylitol, (STAY
AWAY FROM ARTIFICIAL S) Good natural food sources high in fiber
including breads and fruits as much as you can handle based on how you
exercise and how you live. MAKE EXERCISE A DAILY PART OF LIFE and use
your scale to monitor the way how much fruit etc you eat. {Dont eat
meat and oils with high carbs together -6 hrs apart - this works for me
don't know why}
Natural local grown foods are best - complex carbohydrates only. You
will do the world a favor because you won't be buying the over packaged
super garbage foods that puts the wrapper in the landfills and the eater
in the hospital.
One last note: the Eskimos have records (according to James Michner in
his credits for the book _Alaska_) of elders living past 100 years,
their diet was full of good meat, good fat, some good carbs (harvested
from the sea) and good water they existed this way for centuries until
they were introduced to a civilized diet.
Thanks,
Jim
wisdom to all
Terry Dyck wrote:
On the discussion of the Atkins diet I would like to add the fact that
people on this diet for a long period of time have a high risk of developing
Kidney dissease according to studies done on people on the Atkins diet. The
diet also can damage the liver. Heart disease is also a factor.
I did a work shop for people with diabetes. What I found out when
researching material about diabetes is that animal source saturated fat is
one of the leading causes of type 2 diabetes.
Foods that are high in fiber such as unproceesed vegetables, seeds, nuts and
beans are the healthy way of preventing many diseases including type 2
diabetes, heart disease and cancer.
Many people talk about carbohydrates with out realizing that there are 2
types of carbohydrates.
simple carbohydrates such as sweateners are the bad foods but complex
carbohydrates are the healthiest foods on the planet; they includes fresh
unrefined vegetables. Of course local organically grown is the very best.
Terry Dyck
From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] atkins
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:59:15 -0400
On 10/6/05, Chris lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No problem, there was a scientific study done on the Atkins diet in the
UK
early this year, weight, blood pressure and cholesterol tested every day
and
food consumption monitored. It seems people on that diet just do not eat
as
many calories as people eating carbs. They even had the test subjects
locked
in an air chamber monitoring the amount of waste gas being produced to
work
out energy lost in gas production and oily stools. But they did not
expect
the lower cholesterol levels and could not explain how the dropped. They
thought that fresh cooked meat was better for you than processed and the
oil
used in cooking should only be used once and then dumped. Chris.
Sounds like this particular study was comparing apples to oranges but,
I might be reading something into it. However, it does certainly
sounds by your description that the study compared an Atkins diet of
fresh meats to an omniverous diet of processed foods. No doubt, a
diet of refined carbohydrates is not a good diet. However, locally
grown, organic whole grains are invaluable in many peoples' diets.
Let's face it, the best diet is exercise. You can eat anything you
want in moderation but, it won't help eating one thing or another
unless you move your body.
A few interesting things:
There are fewer calories in 1 gram of carbohydrates than either
proteins or fats. Fats contain the highest calory count per gram.
Eat too much fat and it will be stored as fat for reserve. Protein is
great but, if you eat too much, it will also be converted to fat and
reserved. Of course, carbohydrates can also be stored as fat but,
considering that they are the first used energy source, the chances of
carbs being stored as fat
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged
Another source of parts for the Peugeot diesel motors is from the Indian Utility vehicles: some of these use Peugeot Motors, may be imported to the US?? From experience of Peugeot diesels, if properly maintained, they will last well over 300 000 kms before requiring rebuilding. (The 405 diesels do blow a bit of oil into the airbox, so one corner of the filter looks dirty, but they seem to run forever like this. My 405's now have 32 Km, 25 kms on them on the original engines. The only issues I have heard has been related to Injector pumps with the new low-sulphur diesel causing seal failure. This is not an issue with Biodiesel.) regards Doug On Saturday 08 October 2005 2:34, S. Chapin wrote: Brian Rodgers wrote: Ok thanks I realise that the compression should be comparatively similar between cylinders, any ideas on what basic (ball park) compression should be on a diesel engine? Antone know of a trick to seal the coolant system for a minor leak coming from head gasket? Wishful thinking? From the looks of the coolant I flushed out someone already tried the bronse flake sealant. Cheers Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yup, wishful. the reality is that if the head gasket is blown, or the head has enough of a hole on the exhaust side ( a crack between intake and exhaust valves is a spot to look) then the compression is going to be slightly different now, and very different later. Given evidence of a fix in a can' effort already, and expanding hoses go for a sincere diagnosis. To continue running it, however delightful will lead to disaster. I'm not sure you couldnt swap in a newer xd3te motor or even older (ack). If the rest of the thing, trans,electrical,suspension is in good shape. If this is an xd2s, I would rebuild it, maybe 1200 for the parts and machine work (only guessing).How many miles on it?? From what I can gather the turbo peugeot motor is far more efficient than MB, if a bit less robust. If you want I'd trade you the 220d thats in the rover. nahh you're better off fixing the peugeot. Cheers, SC ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] SVO for Commercial Trucks?
I have a friend who is a trucker. I have looked into the systems that allow diesel cars to use SVO, but have not seen anything for a commercial truck sized diesel engine. Anyone know any helpful websites I can share with my friend? John __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 55 Gallon Drum Seal
Hi all, I found a source for lots of 55 gallon drums at a low rate however, he doesn't have the seals. Are these available? Anybody know where I could find them. I'm suppose I could make a seal if necessary but, I'd much prefer a real one. I'm not having a lot of luck finding drums with seals. Thanks, Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 55 Gallon Drum Seal
Similar problem here, though I've processed a couple of batches without the seal. The barrels I got had foodstuffs in them, and the seal was a sort of foam that doesn't hold up in methanol fumes. I'm going to try making a continuous rope of the correct circumference (continuous rope = http://www.bhi.co.uk/hints/rope.htm )and coating it with a silicon rubber. Then lay it into the groove, and when the silicone is nearly solid, set the lid onto the barrel to fit the seal. If it works, I'll let you know. :) doug swanson Ken Dunn wrote: Hi all, I found a source for lots of 55 gallon drums at a low rate however, he doesn't have the seals. Are these available? Anybody know where I could find them. I'm suppose I could make a seal if necessary but, I'd much prefer a real one. I'm not having a lot of luck finding drums with seals. Thanks, Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Sen. Lieberman: Biofuel + Plug-In Hybrids on threshold of commercialization
Sorry folks. But Senator Lieberman just doesn't get it. Someone should suggest the following as mandatory viewing as his primer. http://www.endofsuburbia.com/ Hybrids won't solve the problems we face, especially when they're now being engineered in ways that compromise their previous efficiency for acceleration capability. Even alternative fuels won't solve them. We've reached peak production at the global scale. The only way for demand to match reductions in production is immediately reduced consumption. That means no ten year lag in waiting for hybrid market share to increase. That means no ten year lag in biofuels to garner market share. What it does mean is an immediate concerted effort between conservation, overnight retooling of Detroit for efficiency (or else the big three further lose market share and quickly go belly up) and alt fuels. Anything less than a three pronged attack means a devastating change in the American lifestyle. And we damned sure wouldn't want to disappoint or upset George Junior or Blaire by having to alter the overall American/Western lifestyle in order to prevent suburban collapse and general economic pandemonium, now would we? Todd Swearingen Well this would sure help the coal and nuclear industries out with the hybrids. If the power was from wind and methane digester great, otherwise we would just get the rest of the carbon freed up in the air -no? I like the biofuel idea though! or am I off base? Felix Kramer wrote: Sen. Lieberman plans biofuel PHEV bill: legislative breakthrough This is by far the most specific and far-reaching proposal to date. -- Press release followed by news story: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/169 -- Speech excerpts, outline of plan and full text of speech: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/170 (WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO FORWARD) EXCERPTS This reality is bipartisan. My staff and I have spent as much time talking about these proposals with Republicans as with Democrats. My colleagues Senators Sam Brownback of Kansas and Evan Bayh of Indiana are particularly interested in setting America free from foreign oil dependence. We are ready to get serious, set the serious goals that eluded us in the past and take the bold steps necessary to reach those goals. ... we get the flexibility to power a car with fuel made from corn, prairie grass, or agricultural waste from our own heartland that will cost a lot less than gasoline does today Making them flexible fuel cars, as I’ve already said, can save us more than 2 million barrels of gasoline a day. But we can do even better – dramatically better – with the plug-in hybrid that is just now on the threshold of commercialization. ...Plugging in your car during off peak hours –when power is in surplus and cheaper – would soon just become part of the modern daily routine, like plugging in your cell phone or PDA before you go to bed. And off-peak electricity can be the equivalent of 50 cent a gallon gasoline. This isn’t pie in the sky. These vehicles could be in your garage within a couple of years. Some of the incentives for achieving this were included in the Energy bill signed into law in August. But they did not go nearly far enough. We need to couple these incentives with real performance standards and sales requirements to ensure that as soon as possible new cars are running not just on gasoline but on biofuels and electricity. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Felix Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder California Cars Initiative http://www.calcars.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news http://groups.yahoo.com/group/priusplus http://www.hybridcars.com/blogs/power -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Mercedes 84
My experience with the 300 series is that the fuel filter needs to be changed 2,3, 4 times within the first couple of months and a lenght of rubber fuel line needs to be changed over to nitron which I believe to be any of the new fuel line available. What I did was replace the rubber fuel line immediatily befor the stock fuel filter and then install a cheap inline fuel filter. these would clog up a couple of times and then everything would be OK.This summer I bought two mercedes diesel wagons an 87 for the daughter and an 83 for myself. I am offically through with gas... Hallelujah - Original Message - From: Peter Harves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Mercedes 84 Could somebody on the list give me some advice . I have just bought a Mercedes 1984 model 300D Does this have a filter in the tank. I have read that with Bio the filter in the tank has to be removed ? I am not sure that it was this model. Are there any other modifications that need doing. I know that I will have to change the fuel filter a few times till the tank is clean Thanks Peter ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
