Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
Hugh Falk wrote: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, the final value of a game can never be worth less than $0. If a game was so terrible that the time it took to get through it would have been better spent *any other way* -- say, eating lint -- then it can be worth a negative value. Cybergenic Ranger comes to mind. That does it. Ill be truly amazed if anybody can poke any more holes in this system. I just did :) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
For bad games, Braindead 13 comes to mind too. Does that count like a sequel? Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Hugh Falk wrote: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, the final value of a game can never be worth less than $0. If a game was so terrible that the time it took to get through it would have been better spent *any other way* -- say, eating lint -- then it can be worth a negative value. Cybergenic Ranger comes to mind. That does it. Ill be truly amazed if anybody can poke any more holes in this system. I just did :) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
This is really shameless. I suggest a standard forclassic game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price= (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price= (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price= (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Hugh -Original Message- From: BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Feb 4, 2004 4:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d What site is it? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Awhile back there was a private web page selling games for "ludicrous" prices but this seller is setting new records for insane, here is one example:Infocom Adventure CollectionActivision Price: $650.00Where's my credit card, better get this one QUICK As I said only one example, another Stonekeep for $165, for pity's sake!!!TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300 -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system. So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as letters. Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters. Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out. Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM To: Software Collecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300 -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
Let's validate the system: Ultima IX: Ascension is worth $80 + $9 - $90 = -$1, so $0. This must therefore be be a good system! Although I still like the -$1 value, because if I had to play this game again, I'd definitely want to be paid for it! :-P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system. So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as "letters." Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters. Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out. Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message- From: "Lee K. Seitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM To: Software Collecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new perfect system? :) Brad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system. So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as letters. Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters. Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out. Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM To: Software Collecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300 -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
Quite possibly... Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X. - Original Message - From: BL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new perfect system? :) Brad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system. So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as letters. Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters. Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out. Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM To: Software Collecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300 -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
I think the most valuable game is: Seastalker: Horatio Sebastian Paraknishparpishkamishpan and the Ultramarine Bioceptor. : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:33 AM To: 'C.E. Forman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d No way...that was 1992. Only $20 a letter and $2 per subtitle letter. Then you have to subtract for the sequel. I'd have to go with: The Activision Little Computer People Discovery Kit The value of this game is approximately: $49.99 + $4500 = $4,549.99 I normally wouldn't want to count words like Activision in the value, but that's the official name of the game. On the back of the box in small print it says: The Activision Little Computer People Discovery Kit TM It's not a subtitle or to be confused with the various fonts used on the front. Other box variations of this game may be worth less. So unless somebody is going to argue that this isn't technically a game, I'm sorry to say that this is probably the most valuable game out there. I hope you all have one. On a similar note, should we raise the value of games by Bill Budge and Sid Meier because they use their names in the title? Or should we exclude their names? Do you list these games in your DB as Sid Meier's Civilization or just Civilization? As soon as somebody gets tired of this thread, please tell me to stop. No seriously, please tell me to stop. Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Quite possibly... Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X. - Original Message - From: BL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d I wonder what the most valuable game of all time is with this new perfect system? :) Brad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d Lee, Thanks for pointing out a couple of flaws in my otherwise perfect system. So here are a couple of changes: Numbers (and punctuation) do not count as letters. Subtitle letters do count, but are only worth 10% of the title letters. Subtract (the value of 1 letter) x (sequel #) for sequels. So for example, Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress is worth: $600 + $230 - $200 = $630 Note: Regardless of how many sequels a game has, a game can never be worth less than $0. With those modifications, I think the system is ready to roll out. Enjoy. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 4, 2004 12:02 PM To: Software Collecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: This is really shameless. I suggest a standard for classic = game prices as follows: 1994 - Present: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $10 1986 - 93: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $20 1977 - 85: Price = (number of letters in game name) x $100 I think this is much more reasonable. Feel free to use this method on your sites. No need to mention me as the source (please). Makes me glad I'm not an Ultima collector. Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II (1982) = $800 Ultima III (1983) = $900 Ultima IV (1985) = $800 Ultima V (1988) = $140 Especially if we add subtitles! Ultima (1981) = $600 Ultima II: Revenge of the Enchantress (1982) = $3100 Ultima III: Exodus (1983) = $1500 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (1985) = $2400 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny (1988) = $480 (I was nice and didn't count the colons.) I might actually part with my original Infocoms at some of these prices: Zork (1980) = $400 Zork II (1981) = $600 Zork III (1982) = $700 Starcross (1982) = $900 Suspended (1983) = $900 Planetfall (1983) = $1000 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1984) = $3000 Leather Goddesses of Phobos (1986) = $480 Stationfall (1987) = $220 And again, you don't want to collect Zork and count subtitles. Zork: The Great Underground Empire (1980) = $2900 Zork II: The Wizard of Frobozz (1981) = $2400 Zork III: The Dungeon Master (1982) = $2300 -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
Heh. Actually, that's an interesting one. I never understood the fascination with this particular package. It routinely sells on eBay for anywhere between $100-$200, but it's really not that interesting... For that price, you can probably grab 5 or 6 grey boxes, a couple of folios, and some Invisiclues hint books to go with that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awhile back there was a private web page selling games for "ludicrous" prices but this seller is setting new records for insane, here is one example: Infocom Adventure Collection Activision Price: $650.00 Where's my credit card, better get this one QUICK As I said only one example, another Stonekeep for $165, for pity's sake!!! Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Oh my G*d!!!!
In a message dated 02/03/2004 10:50:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I might list some of this seller's other prices here, it is so funny I could die laughing... Hmm, well I won't be doing this, I wrote to her asking some questions, she seems very nice. Prices out of this world but if someone pays them more power to her :) Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
