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Re: make Firefox Thunderbird mouse accessible

2015-12-26 Thread Reg Webb via Talk

Thanks so much Neville. I had taken the first 2 steps, but the third one
has proved crucial in getting some mouse access back.

Best wishes

-- 
Reg


On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 10:16:25 +1000
Neville via Talk  wrote:

> Hi Listers,
> Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird
> 
> Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird accessible 
> with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use WE to make the 
> necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted assistance for Firefox.  
> For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the case of Firefox but maybe NVDA 
> would work.
> 
> A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success with 
> it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with the change 
> in mouse accessibility the alterations made.
> 
> Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse accessible 
> as well.
> 
> HTH
> Neville.
> 
> 
> 
> This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.
> 
> The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to find 
> it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the correct one 
> to change.
> 
> 
> block quote
> 1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter
> about:config
>   in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate to 
> Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.
> 2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list of 
> options.
> 3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the 
> first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option in 
> the
> 
> list.
> the following are entries to search for:
> 
> gfx.direct2d.disabled
> if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
> value to true.
> 
> layers.acceleration.disabled
> if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
> value to true.
> 
> layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled
> if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the
> value to false.
> 
> press control+w to close the configuration window.
> restart Thunderbird/Firefox.
> block quote end
> 
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Re: Good Backup Software that works with Window-Eyes

2015-12-26 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk

Mine didn't have that option for portable, I should update, although, 
some time ago they changed their format which is one reason I didn't 
update.  What is p e?

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 25 Dec 2015, David Mehler wrote:


Hello,

When I installed Image for Windows on my system there's a portable
copy in the installation if I'm recalling right. I just load up the
PE, when that starts talking I put in a USB stick and go from there.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 12/25/15, Butch Bussen via Talk  wrote:

How did you get the portable image for windows to work.  Every time I
try it, I have to install it and even then get a message that the drive
is locked and can't restore.  I usually pull the drive and restore it on
another machine.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, David Mehler via Talk wrote:


Hello,

For restiration I've got a portable image for windows on a bootable
Windows PE which has speech and I have used thata to do a speech
restore.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 12/24/15, Jim Ruby via Talk  wrote:

I use image for windows and cloudberry explorer pro to back up things to
the
cloud. Both work well for me.



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xHi, Folks.  I'm looking for a good backup software package that works
well with Window-Eyes.  Am currently using Casper, but since going to
Windows 10, have had some issues.  If you know of a good backup package,
please send to the list.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao

Hi, Folks.  I'm looking for a good bac
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Re: make Firefox Thunderbird mouse accessible

2015-12-26 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Neville, thanks for your efforts. I really don't know why it should be
that some people have such good luck with such modifications, and
others, like me, never get anywhere. I still get nothing but a line
with the word "file," and the first line of the message, and a ding
below that. If anyone else can give me any ideas as to why this should
be, please let me, as well as the rest of us know.

All I can say is that if ISquared and all other screen reading
developers can find no way to deal with this new method of handling the
mouse pointer, we all better hope and even pray that this method doesn't
become too popular among commercial or open source application
developers, because if it does, there goes any possible use of a mouse
pointer for speech access. This issue simply has to be addressed and
dealt with, not just accepted by screen reader developers.

On 12/25/2015 6:16 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi Listers,
Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird

Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be. I was able to
use WE to make the necessary changes in Thunderbird but needed
sighted assistance for Firefox. For some reason WE kept loosing
speech in the case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.

A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work. In short, I was amazed
with the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.

Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.

HTH
Neville.

This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.

The third step is the new one. You do have to arrow down many times
to find it. A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get
the correct one to change.

block quote
1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter
about:config
in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.
2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the
list of options.
3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing
the first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific
option in the

list.
the following are entries to search for:

gfx.direct2d.disabled
if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
value to true.

layers.acceleration.disabled
if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
value to true.

layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled
if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the
value to false.

press control+w to close the configuration window.
restart Thunderbird/Firefox.
block quote end

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a couple of questions for the list

2015-12-26 Thread Jesse via Talk


Hi guys.

   On a Windows 10, 64 byt machine with Win-Eyes 9.3, I could be in any 
window, skype, Miranada or even in Firefox.  The common thread in all 
this?  If ever I backspace to regtype anyplace, all I get is a ding as 
if what I were typing was invisible.


   At least on my laptop as I'm typing this message, I can backspace 
and hear what needs retyping but, not so on the Windows 10 machine. Any 
help on how to resolve it, much appreciated.


   The other question is a warning of Thunderbird users.  Seemingly 
updating to the latest version makes it inaccessible and the only thing 
which saved me was a system restore.  It loads and reads like a webpage 
when first launched, complete with browse mode, links and everything 
short of the message list so unless anyone knows how to make the latest 
Thunderbird compatible with WE 9.3, it seems unusable.

Jesse
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RE: anyone using vipre antibirus

2015-12-26 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk

Steve,

I am using the latest version of MalWareBytes and I agree that the inability
to read the screen has been addressed, but I still have a good deal of
trouble with the new interface.  I find, for example, that the only way to
read certain things on the screen is by using ALT-CONTROL-W twice which I
think forces Window-Eyes to use UIA.  I had a bit of trouble determining
which drives were going to be scanned, and after the scan completed, I was
not able to determine how to select different threats to be addressed.
Certain ones were already selected, and there was a button to select all,
which is what I finally used, but I never did figure out how to select
individual additional threats beyond what was already selected.  I suspect I
have missed something along the way.  Do you or anyone else have some hints?


In my experience over the years, I've had the best luck with MalWareBytes
when removing malware.  It has successfully removed malware that other
software either ignored or did not remove reliably.  A couple of other
common software packages seemed to make my system unstable.  Therefore, I'm
willing to put up with some of what I've described above, but wonder if I am
missing something that would be helpful.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: RE: anyone using vipre antibirus

Hi John,

When did you last try it?  The current version works fine with Window-Eyes.

All the best

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On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk
Sent: 23 December 2015 11:45
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Subject: RE: anyone using vipre antibirus

Hello Bill,

Which version of Malwarebytes do you use?

I had found that the latest versions did not read successfully with
Window-Eyes and so am currently using an old version which is more
accessible.


Regards, John



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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 5:14 PM
To: 'Casey'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: anyone using vipre antibirus

I used Vipre for a while until I found out that it had some big problems.
After hearing that is was not reliable, I removed it and ran Malwarebytes
which found twenty some serious issues.  Vipre had been telling me that
everything was fine.  

If you're still running XP, I recommend Bit Defender.  I have always found
Microsoft Security Essentials to be friendly and to work well with Vista and
Windows 7 and I now use Windows Defender with Windows 10.  I have had no
virus problems, since I don't take chances and don't browse risky web sites.


Bill


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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:37 AM
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Subject: anyone using vipre antibirus

Hi I would like to know if anyone hear is using vipre antivirus and 
would you recommended it?
I ma thinking about changing antiviruses and heard about this one and 
wondered if any window-eye users out hear are using and how well they 
like it and what they think of it.


-- 
Casey
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Re: make Firefox Thunderbird mouse accessible

2015-12-26 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk

I made the modififcations and I am using windows 7 64 bit pro and Yes
they do work.

On 12/26/2015 7:27 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi Larry,
These modifications work in W7 32 bit but no idea if they make a
difference in W8 or W10 or even 64 bit.

What OS are you using?

As we are being pested to move to W10, it would be a real shame if
this technique did not make a difference under this OS.

A case of one step forward and two steps backward if it does not.

Neville.

On 26/12/2015 9:34 PM, Larry Higgins wrote:

On 12/25/2015 6:16 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi Listers,
Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird

A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work. In short, I was amazed
with the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.

Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.

HTH
Neville.

This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.

The third step is the new one. You do have to arrow down many times
to find it. A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get
the correct one to change.

list.
the following are entries to search for:

gfx.direct2d.disabled
if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
value to true.

layers.acceleration.disabled
if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the
value to true.

layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled
if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the
value to false.

press control+w to close the configuration window.
restart Thunderbird/Firefox.
block quote end

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Re: make Firefox Thunderbird mouse accessible

2015-12-26 Thread Samuel Wilkins via Talk


This should be put on the knowledge base.

On 26/12/2015 15:21, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

Thanks so much Neville. I had taken the first 2 steps, but the third one
has proved crucial in getting some mouse access back.

Best wishes



--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

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Re: make Firefox Thunderbird mouse accessible

2015-12-26 Thread Neville via Talk

Hi Larry,
These modifications work in W7 32 bit but no idea if they make a
difference in W8 or W10 or even 64 bit.

What OS are you using?

As we are being pested to move to W10, it would be a real shame if this
technique did not make a difference under this OS.