app get:

2016-05-27 Thread kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Hi I was wondering how to use app get to download the weather app for
window-eyes? I am using window-eyes 9.4. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 

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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Rod it shows a list of open windows.

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On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 12:34 AM
To: 'Curtis Delzer'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi Curtis,

Can you post a description of what Insert-F10 does in the screen reader
competitor?

Thanks,

Rod

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Sent: May 27, 2016 10:30 PM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?

I tried windows - tab, got the results you predicted fine, and then unloaded
window-eyes, loaded jfw 17 and hit insert f10 and found "settings" center
for windows ten which I had not loaded directly, which was not visible to
windows tab or any aspect of the apps in window-eyes which are suppose to
display windows working or hidden, so there is still something happening
with the app inside jfw insert-f10 not visible to window-eyes. I want to
know what is running in the background which could potentially either slow
my PC or something which I need to be aware of that is, instead, somehow in
the background.
THANKS!
--
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:13:34 -0400
Rebecca Lineberger via Talk  wrote:

> If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
> Press the Windows Key-Tab.
> Window-Eyes should say,
> "Running applications.  Task view."
> You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list 
> of running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you 
> want instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and 
> arrow up to close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, 
> so left or right arrow to the program you still want to use and press
enter, or press escape.
> The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.  
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com
> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?
> 
> HI Curtis:
> 
> There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want, 
> or come close to it.
> If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
> Kevin Huber
> 
> On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> > Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable 
> > here in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which 
> > gives the list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there 
> > are hidden windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting 
> > alt-tab too and from. :) Is there a script which is available which 
> > can be downloaded which simulates or perhaps does better this 
> > "listing of the windows" command and then gives the ability to 
> > "close" them?
> > I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem 
> > to make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws 
> > key f10 window list.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Delzer 
> >
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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Curtis,

Can you post a description of what Insert-F10 does in the screen reader
competitor?

Thanks,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: May 27, 2016 10:30 PM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?

I tried windows - tab, got the results you predicted fine, and then unloaded
window-eyes, loaded jfw 17 and hit insert f10 and found "settings" center
for windows ten which I had not loaded directly, which was not visible to
windows tab or any aspect of the apps in window-eyes which are suppose to
display windows working or hidden, so there is still something happening
with the app inside jfw insert-f10 not visible to window-eyes. I want to
know what is running in the background which could potentially either slow
my PC or something which I need to be aware of that is, instead, somehow in
the background.
THANKS!
--
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:13:34 -0400
Rebecca Lineberger via Talk  wrote:

> If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
> Press the Windows Key-Tab.
> Window-Eyes should say,
> "Running applications.  Task view."
> You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list 
> of running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you 
> want instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and 
> arrow up to close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, 
> so left or right arrow to the program you still want to use and press
enter, or press escape.
> The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.  
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com
> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?
> 
> HI Curtis:
> 
> There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want, 
> or come close to it.
> If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
> Kevin Huber
> 
> On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> > Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable 
> > here in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which 
> > gives the list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there 
> > are hidden windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting 
> > alt-tab too and from. :) Is there a script which is available which 
> > can be downloaded which simulates or perhaps does better this 
> > "listing of the windows" command and then gives the ability to 
> > "close" them?
> > I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem 
> > to make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws 
> > key f10 window list.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Delzer 
> >
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Re: Putting the Edge issue and the resulting flames to rest.

2016-05-27 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

Thanks, Kevin.

Regards,
Tom


On 5/27/2016 4:01 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:

Hi Tom:

Thanks for posting that article from Microsoft.

For the last 20 years that I have been a member of this list, you have
been one of the members who has provided good and thoughtful
information and I have come to respect your opinions on the topics
which are discussed on this list.
Keep up the good work.
Kevin Huber

On 5/24/16, Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:

For those who missed it and for the record, all I did was post a message
saying that Edge would be accessible eventually. I prefaced that message
with "This is only my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth."

Stephen Clark, who I don't know from Adam, replied and told me that I
was an old man, I had no idea what I was talking about, I was out of
touch with reality, and I just sat around living off government checks
while he worked.

He said over and over again that he was absolutely sure Edge would never
be accessible and that Internet Explorer was going away.

Yes, I fired back at him but I did not stoop to his level of personal
insults. I then posted the statement from Microsoft saying that Internet
Explorer would be supported for the life of Windows 10 along with the
link to the page for those who didn't believe me.

Someone else then made the mistake of agreeing that Edge would
eventually be accessible. Below is Stephen's reply with my reply to it.
I'm posting this for those who believed his repetitive assertions that
Edge would never be accessible.

On 5/22/2016 9:05 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
 >  Prove it.


 From
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/12/accessible-ux-with-html5-and-uia/

Building a more accessible user experience with HTML5 and UIA

By Microsoft Edge Team

Recently, we introduced Microsoft Edge’s new accessibility architecture,
which inherently supports modern web standards, and provides a
foundation to make the web platform more accessible than ever. To build
a comprehensive ecosystem across all products and users of every
ability, assistive technologies build end user experiences on top of
accessibility frameworks. In Edge, accessibility information is exposed
through the UI Automation (UIA) framework. HTML, CSS, and ARIA markup is
translated to UIA objects that assistive technologies use to provide a
tailored experience.

In this post, we’ll walk through some concrete examples of how our new
architecture improves the end user’s experience, and specifically how
markup defines the experience of navigating with assistive technologies
like screen readers. Our examples focus on Narrator, but any screen
reader using UIA will be able to take advantage of these improvements.

Measuring success with HTML5Accessibility

As part of our ongoing work to advance Edge’s accessibility, we want to
make sure developers and users can easily get accurate information on
platform accessibility across browsers, making it easier to build more
accessible sites and make informed decisions when using accessibility
features. For example, we are working closely with HTML5Accessibility’s
maintainer, Steve Faulkner of the Paciello Group, to update the site and
refresh its design.

HTML5Accessibility is a popular resource for this information that
summarizes and rates major browsers’ HTML5 platform accessibility. Some
of the success criteria include mappings to the accessibility API,
keyboard accessibility, and the accessibility of error states. The
upcoming refresh (which you can preview today on GitHub) includes
changes to clarify pass criteria, add additional tests, and even give
the site a fresh and modern makeover.

Comparing the old and new HTML5Accessibility.com designs. Note that the
updated site does not yet reflect the accessibility improvements in
EdgeHTML 14.

Many of the accessibility APIs discussed in this post are tracked on
HTML5Accessibility, or were leveraged to build the site’s upcoming
redesign. Each element or attribute has its own test page, so you can
use Narrator to try out the user experience and open Inspect or F12 to
see how they are mapped to UIA.

Note that HTML5Accessibility currently tracks the status of shipping
versions of the listed browsers, and has not yet been updated with the
new test criteria. With the work landing in EdgeHTML 14, we look forward
to a much-improved score for Edge soon! We’ll share more when those
updates are available.

Read more at
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/12/accessible-ux-with-html5-and-uia/#rXPoCvxQdq5lUl3g.99
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Re: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
I tried windows - tab, got the results you predicted fine, and then
unloaded window-eyes, loaded jfw 17 and hit insert f10 and found
"settings" center for windows ten which I had not loaded directly, which
was not visible to windows tab or any aspect of the apps in window-eyes
which are suppose to display windows working or hidden, so there is
still something happening with the app inside jfw insert-f10 not visible
to window-eyes. I want to know what is running in the background which
could potentially either slow my PC or something which I need to be
aware of that is, instead, somehow in the background.
THANKS!
-- 
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:13:34 -0400
Rebecca Lineberger via Talk  wrote:

> If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
> Press the Windows Key-Tab.
> Window-Eyes should say,
> "Running applications.  Task view."
> You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list of
> running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you want
> instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and arrow up to
> close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, so left or right
> arrow to the program you still want to use and press enter, or press escape.
> The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.  
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?
> 
> HI Curtis:
> 
> There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
> or come close to it.
> If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
> Kevin Huber
> 
> On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> > Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
> > in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
> > list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
> > windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
> > from. :)
> > Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
> > simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
> > and then gives the ability to "close" them?
> > I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
> > make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
> > window list.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Delzer 
> >
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Re: WE not reading notifications

2016-05-27 Thread michaels mail via Talk

Hi Charlie is your tool tip option under WE set to auto or off.
Cheers Michael.

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To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WE not reading notifications

Hello, I'm using the latest build of Windows 10.  Whenever I plug in my
speakers, Window-Eyes doesn't say, "notification audio manager, you just
plugged in a device into the audio jack.  What can I do to fix this problem?
Thanks,


Charlie Short


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Re: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
thank you I will definitely check this out. 
-- 
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:13:34 -0400
Rebecca Lineberger via Talk  wrote:

> If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
> Press the Windows Key-Tab.
> Window-Eyes should say,
> "Running applications.  Task view."
> You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list of
> running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you want
> instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and arrow up to
> close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, so left or right
> arrow to the program you still want to use and press enter, or press escape.
> The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.  
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?
> 
> HI Curtis:
> 
> There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
> or come close to it.
> If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
> Kevin Huber
> 
> On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> > Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
> > in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
> > list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
> > windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
> > from. :)
> > Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
> > simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
> > and then gives the ability to "close" them?
> > I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
> > make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
> > window list.
> >
> > --
> > Curtis Delzer 
> >
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RE: WE not reading notifications

2016-05-27 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Charlie,

Are you saying it used to say this and no longer does?
Assuming your sound device software is still installed, the only thing that
occurs to me is that the sound device doesn't see a difference between the
state before and after plugging them in.
In this case, you might try plugging it into a different output jack.
Once you get a notification, then plug them back into the jack you want them
in.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: May 27, 2016 5:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WE not reading notifications

Hello, I'm using the latest build of Windows 10.  Whenever I plug in my
speakers, Window-Eyes doesn't say, "notification audio manager, you just
plugged in a device into the audio jack.  What can I do to fix this problem?
Thanks,


Charlie Short


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Re: somr miranda ng issues

2016-05-27 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Hi, I've noticed this too, there was an update to the Facebook plugin 
after a night where everyone was signed in, but no one could see each 
other.  Everyone appeared to be offline.  Now with this new update 
everyone shows up, even if they're set to away.  Remember, the average 
Joe Facebook user doesn't use Miranda, so we're basicly hacking  into it 
for lack of a better term.









On 5/27/2016 8:38 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

Hey guys,

Is anyone on here running Miranda ng?  OK, something very strange just 
happened.  Now i see all of my contacts, in a list, there are 812 
showing up, and usually there are only a hundred or so.  This makes no 
sense as i have literally changed nothing.  I wish there were a good 
configuration of this program that people have documented.  There's 
actually too much stuff to configure, 1 screw u8p changes everything. 
Any ideas why all of these contacts could be showing up all of a 
sudden?  All i wanna see are the on line contacts

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somr miranda ng issues

2016-05-27 Thread Jed Barton via Talk

Hey guys,

Is anyone on here running Miranda ng?  OK, something very strange just 
happened.  Now i see all of my contacts, in a list, there are 812 
showing up, and usually there are only a hundred or so.  This makes no 
sense as i have literally changed nothing.  I wish there were a good 
configuration of this program that people have documented.  There's 
actually too much stuff to configure, 1 screw u8p changes everything. 
Any ideas why all of these contacts could be showing up all of a sudden? 
 All i wanna see are the on line contacts

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panda antivirus

2016-05-27 Thread Casey via Talk

Hi I got an e-mailing talking about the panda antivirus software.
Is this usable with window eyes?
If you would have to change anything with window eyes to make it work 
what would the changes be?



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Re: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Rebecca,

I think what Curtis Delzer was referring too were hidden windows that 
don't ordinarily show up in the normal display. In other words 
applications that run in the background.


I for one am not all that familiar with these types of programs, except 
from what I see as background tasks within the task manager, and there 
are many listed there at any given time, and these can't be viewed in 
the task view either. However, now that they have been brought to my 
attention, I think I might like to be privy to these apps myself.


Larry


On 5/27/2016 4:13 PM, Rebecka Lineberger via Talk wrote:

If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
Press the Windows Key-Tab.
Window-Eyes should say,
"Running applications.  Task view."
You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list of
running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you want
instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and arrow up to
close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, so left or right
arrow to the program you still want to use and press enter, or press escape.
The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?

HI Curtis:

There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
or come close to it.
If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
Kevin Huber

On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:

Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
from. :)
Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
and then gives the ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
window list.

--
Curtis Delzer 

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WE not reading notifications

2016-05-27 Thread Charles Short via Talk
Hello, I'm using the latest build of Windows 10.  Whenever I plug in my
speakers, Window-Eyes doesn't say, "notification audio manager, you just
plugged in a device into the audio jack.  What can I do to fix this problem?
Thanks,


Charlie Short


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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
If you want an alternative to Alt-Tab, you can use the Task View.
Press the Windows Key-Tab.
Window-Eyes should say,
"Running applications.  Task view."
You can press the left and right arrow keys to arrow through the list of
running programs.  Press enter to select the one you want.  If you want
instead to close the program, press the Context Menu key and arrow up to
close and press enter. You should still be in Task View, so left or right
arrow to the program you still want to use and press enter, or press escape.
The Windows Key-Tab is a Microsoft command, not a Window-Eyes command.  
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:09 PM
To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: like jaws insert-f10?

HI Curtis:

There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
or come close to it.
If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
Kevin Huber

On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
> in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
> list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
> windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
> from. :)
> Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
> simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
> and then gives the ability to "close" them?
> I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
> make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
> window list.
>
> --
> Curtis Delzer 
>
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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Andre via Talk
What's the hotkey or keystrokes to activate this function in Window Eyes?

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On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:59 PM
To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi Rod. Actually, That function does exist in Window-Eyes as well but you
have to use the zoomtext fusion layouts which uses the defaults.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 12:57 PM
To: 'Curtis Delzer'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi Curtis,

I'm not sure exactly what the competitor's app does, but if you're simply
looking for an app which allows you to label and switch to visible windows,
Chip Orange's HotWind app might work for you.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: May 27, 2016 2:59 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here in
windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the list of
windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden windows by
which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and from. :) Is there
a script which is available which can be downloaded which simulates or
perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command and then gives the
ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to make
my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10 window
list.

--
Curtis Delzer 

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Re: OT Jaws question

2016-05-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn via Talk
To move the mouse, you need to use the "jaws Cursor". This can be enabled with 
the numpad minus key. Insert-numpad minus move the mouse to the focused item. 

The mouse restrictions are toggled with insert-R. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




> On 27 May 2016, at 17:05, Dave via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am helping another Screen Reader user with a program they wish to use. 
> They use JAWS, and they know little about it.  And I know even less.
> 
> Window eyes can move the Mouse cursor around by using the  Number Pad
> keys.  
> 
> Does JAWS have this same feature?   Or if it is different, what keys are
> used to move the Mouse?  And then to select something with the mouse?
> 
> Thanks for the Off Topic question inquiry.I know some here use both
> screen readers.
> 
> Grumpy Dave
> 
> 
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OT Jaws question

2016-05-27 Thread Dave via Talk
Hello,

I am helping another Screen Reader user with a program they wish to use. 
They use JAWS, and they know little about it.  And I know even less.

Window eyes can move the Mouse cursor around by using the  Number Pad
keys.  

Does JAWS have this same feature?   Or if it is different, what keys are
used to move the Mouse?  And then to select something with the mouse?

Thanks for the Off Topic question inquiry.I know some here use both
screen readers.

Grumpy Dave


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Re: Putting the Edge issue and the resulting flames to rest.

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Tom:

Thanks for posting that article from Microsoft.

For the last 20 years that I have been a member of this list, you have
been one of the members who has provided good and thoughtful
information and I have come to respect your opinions on the topics
which are discussed on this list.
Keep up the good work.
Kevin Huber

On 5/24/16, Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:
> For those who missed it and for the record, all I did was post a message
> saying that Edge would be accessible eventually. I prefaced that message
> with "This is only my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth."
>
> Stephen Clark, who I don't know from Adam, replied and told me that I
> was an old man, I had no idea what I was talking about, I was out of
> touch with reality, and I just sat around living off government checks
> while he worked.
>
> He said over and over again that he was absolutely sure Edge would never
> be accessible and that Internet Explorer was going away.
>
> Yes, I fired back at him but I did not stoop to his level of personal
> insults. I then posted the statement from Microsoft saying that Internet
> Explorer would be supported for the life of Windows 10 along with the
> link to the page for those who didn't believe me.
>
> Someone else then made the mistake of agreeing that Edge would
> eventually be accessible. Below is Stephen's reply with my reply to it.
> I'm posting this for those who believed his repetitive assertions that
> Edge would never be accessible.
>
> On 5/22/2016 9:05 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
>  >  Prove it.
>
>
>  From
> https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/12/accessible-ux-with-html5-and-uia/
>
> Building a more accessible user experience with HTML5 and UIA
>
> By Microsoft Edge Team
>
> Recently, we introduced Microsoft Edge’s new accessibility architecture,
> which inherently supports modern web standards, and provides a
> foundation to make the web platform more accessible than ever. To build
> a comprehensive ecosystem across all products and users of every
> ability, assistive technologies build end user experiences on top of
> accessibility frameworks. In Edge, accessibility information is exposed
> through the UI Automation (UIA) framework. HTML, CSS, and ARIA markup is
> translated to UIA objects that assistive technologies use to provide a
> tailored experience.
>
> In this post, we’ll walk through some concrete examples of how our new
> architecture improves the end user’s experience, and specifically how
> markup defines the experience of navigating with assistive technologies
> like screen readers. Our examples focus on Narrator, but any screen
> reader using UIA will be able to take advantage of these improvements.
>
> Measuring success with HTML5Accessibility
>
> As part of our ongoing work to advance Edge’s accessibility, we want to
> make sure developers and users can easily get accurate information on
> platform accessibility across browsers, making it easier to build more
> accessible sites and make informed decisions when using accessibility
> features. For example, we are working closely with HTML5Accessibility’s
> maintainer, Steve Faulkner of the Paciello Group, to update the site and
> refresh its design.
>
> HTML5Accessibility is a popular resource for this information that
> summarizes and rates major browsers’ HTML5 platform accessibility. Some
> of the success criteria include mappings to the accessibility API,
> keyboard accessibility, and the accessibility of error states. The
> upcoming refresh (which you can preview today on GitHub) includes
> changes to clarify pass criteria, add additional tests, and even give
> the site a fresh and modern makeover.
>
> Comparing the old and new HTML5Accessibility.com designs. Note that the
> updated site does not yet reflect the accessibility improvements in
> EdgeHTML 14.
>
> Many of the accessibility APIs discussed in this post are tracked on
> HTML5Accessibility, or were leveraged to build the site’s upcoming
> redesign. Each element or attribute has its own test page, so you can
> use Narrator to try out the user experience and open Inspect or F12 to
> see how they are mapped to UIA.
>
> Note that HTML5Accessibility currently tracks the status of shipping
> versions of the listed browsers, and has not yet been updated with the
> new test criteria. With the work landing in EdgeHTML 14, we look forward
> to a much-improved score for Edge soon! We’ll share more when those
> updates are available.
>
> Read more at
> https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/12/accessible-ux-with-html5-and-uia/#rXPoCvxQdq5lUl3g.99
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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hi Rod. Actually, That function does exist in Window-Eyes as well but you
have to use the zoomtext fusion layouts which uses the defaults.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 12:57 PM
To: 'Curtis Delzer'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi Curtis,

I'm not sure exactly what the competitor's app does, but if you're simply
looking for an app which allows you to label and switch to visible windows,
Chip Orange's HotWind app might work for you.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: May 27, 2016 2:59 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here in
windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the list of
windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden windows by
which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and from. :) Is there
a script which is available which can be downloaded which simulates or
perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command and then gives the
ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to make
my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10 window
list.

--
Curtis Delzer 

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RE: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Curtis,

I'm not sure exactly what the competitor's app does, but if you're simply
looking for an app which allows you to label and switch to visible windows,
Chip Orange's HotWind app might work for you.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: like jaws insert-f10?

Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here in
windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the list of
windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden windows by
which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and from. :) Is there
a script which is available which can be downloaded which simulates or
perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command and then gives the
ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to make
my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10 window
list.

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Re: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk


Kevin,I kinda would like to see this as a feature, or as an app myself.

I've tried your suggestion, and when I press alt-insert-f, I get the 
following error message.


Line 47 Column 1
Object required
<  0x800A01A8 >
Ignore Error Stop App Edit App View Help Restart App

I am using Win 10 with WE  9.4.

On 5/27/2016 2:08 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

HI Curtis:

There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
or come close to it.
If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
Kevin Huber

On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:

Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
from. :)
Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
and then gives the ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
window list.

--
Curtis Delzer 

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Re: office 2016 help

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Jed:

Office 2016 also has a welcome screen which you should disable, if you
hadn't already.  When I ran Excel 2016 it kind of through me for a
loop until I recognized it from Word 2016.  It can be disabled from
the options menu.

Kevin Huber

On 5/25/16, Jed Barton via Talk  wrote:
> Hey guys,
> OK, so i have office 365, 2016 running on my computer.  I have 2 major
> problems.  When i have outlook up and running as i am arrowing down my
> messages, every message i go to, it goes ding dong.  It's a high to a
> low pitch sound, super annoying.
> The other problem is excelle 2016 appears to be completely unaccessable.
>   I actually went so far as to create a blank excelle, and absolutely
> nothing.  Any ideas?
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Re: like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
HI Curtis:

There is a script called "find window" which might do what you want,
or come close to it.
If you run Appget, you will find it under Productivity.
Kevin Huber

On 5/27/16, Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:
> Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
> in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
> list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
> windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
> from. :)
> Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
> simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
> and then gives the ability to "close" them?
> I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
> make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
> window list.
>
> --
> Curtis Delzer 
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like jaws insert-f10?

2016-05-27 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
Hi all! There is one command in JFW which I find extremely valuable here
in windows ten, and that is the "jaws key, f10" command which gives the
list of windows showing, but often, in windows ten, there are hidden
windows by which cannot be reached easily by hitting alt-tab too and
from. :)
Is there a script which is available which can be downloaded which
simulates or perhaps does better this "listing of the windows" command
and then gives the ability to "close" them?
I've found things which are behind the "alt-tab" windows which seem to
make my computer more "snappy" if I close them using that jaws key f10
window list.

-- 
Curtis Delzer 

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Re: Microsoft Speech Annoyance

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Dan:

I think that these things are hard coded into the synthesizer.  That
is why I am sticking to Espeak.  It sounded annoying at first, but I
have gotten used to it.  It sure beats having to listen to those
annoyances that you mentioned.

On 5/27/16, Dan Rathburn via Talk  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm using the Microsoft Speech Platform with the U.S. English voice, WE 9.4
>
> and Windows 7 HP.  The problem is that it expands abreviations to whole
> words even when it's not appropriate.  For example, instead of saying
> "Wizard of OZ" it says "Wizard of Ounce" or the word "miss" is pronounced
> "Mississippi" regrardless of the context.  I've played with the settings in
>
> the Screen tab in the WE control panel but nothing helps.  Is there a fix or
>
> is it a limitation of the synthesizer?
>
> For those in the U.S., have a good Memorial Day weekend.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
>
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Microsoft Speech Annoyance

2016-05-27 Thread Dan Rathburn via Talk


Hello,

I'm using the Microsoft Speech Platform with the U.S. English voice, WE 9.4 
and Windows 7 HP.  The problem is that it expands abreviations to whole 
words even when it's not appropriate.  For example, instead of saying 
"Wizard of OZ" it says "Wizard of Ounce" or the word "miss" is pronounced 
"Mississippi" regrardless of the context.  I've played with the settings in 
the Screen tab in the WE control panel but nothing helps.  Is there a fix or 
is it a limitation of the synthesizer?


For those in the U.S., have a good Memorial Day weekend.

Thanks,

Dan


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RE: excell 2016

2016-05-27 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Hi Juan,
These options can be found by selecting the Format button in the Home tab of 
the ribbon. When the Format button's pull down opens, you can Arrow Down and 
select Rename Sheet or Move or Copy Sheets. These items are the same as the 
ones presented in the context menu you had used in the past.
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 11:25 AM
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Subject: excell 2016

Hi All,

 

Using office 2016, and wineyes 9.4 on windows 10.

 

I want to know does anyone know how tomanage the sheets in a book?

 

How can I change the order, and rename them?  I used to be able to go to the
bottom of the window, and right click with the wineyes mouse keys the sheets
and manage them.  Is there another way to get down there to manage this?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

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excell 2016

2016-05-27 Thread Juan Hernandez via Talk
Hi All,

 

Using office 2016, and wineyes 9.4 on windows 10.

 

I want to know does anyone know how tomanage the sheets in a book?

 

How can I change the order, and rename them?  I used to be able to go to the
bottom of the window, and right click with the wineyes mouse keys the sheets
and manage them.  Is there another way to get down there to manage this?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

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RE: Getting Rid of Thunderbird Junk Mail Announcement

2016-05-27 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
Press f8 from your message list.
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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:46 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Getting Rid of Thunderbird Junk Mail Announcement

Hi, Folks.  Somehow, I got a slight case of fumble fingers on the 
keyboard while sending out an email, because shortly after doing that, I 
keep getting a message from Thunderbird that this may be a junk mail 
message.  How do I stop this announcement?  Thanks in advance.  This is 
a great list!--Matthew Chao



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RE: verbage

2016-05-27 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
Hi,
Check the setting 
Screen/other/split mixed case.   If it is set to on with acronyms, set it to 
just on.
With this setting set to on with Acronyms it'll spell out words that are all 
uppercase like I B M.



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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:58 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: verbage

Morning folks:

 

I am not sure how to phrase my question, but, here goes.

 

Ever since installing we 9.4, more times then enough, we is speaking each
charachter rather then speaking the word.

 

When I check the word or text string, yes, there is no space between words
and perhaps a minus sign, but, in previous versions of we, this behaviour
was not as severe

It happens on the web mostllly and in some emails that I receive.

 

As I said, it is tough to explain.

Whatever it is, nothing was changed on my part, just a straight install over
9.1

 

I am running Windows 7 and office 2007

Thanks

Don

 

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Re: weather app?

2016-05-27 Thread Dave Basden via Talk
Due to humidity and windiness, it can feel warmer or colder than the 
thermometer reading.  This second number gives that subjective experience.


At 06:02 AM 5/27/2016, you wrote:

In reading the weather app, what is the second number refer to?



For example::



I have my app set to fahrenheit



72, 7 feels like 72

First number is correct

Second number 7, it ca't be celsus

Last number isok

Thanks

Don



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weather app?

2016-05-27 Thread Don Smith via Talk
In reading the weather app, what is the second number refer to?

 

For example::

 

I have my app set to fahrenheit

 

72, 7 feels like 72

First number is correct

Second number 7, it ca't be celsus

Last number isok

Thanks

Don

 

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verbage

2016-05-27 Thread Don Smith via Talk
Morning folks:

 

I am not sure how to phrase my question, but, here goes.

 

Ever since installing we 9.4, more times then enough, we is speaking each
charachter rather then speaking the word.

 

When I check the word or text string, yes, there is no space between words
and perhaps a minus sign, but, in previous versions of we, this behaviour
was not as severe

It happens on the web mostllly and in some emails that I receive.

 

As I said, it is tough to explain.

Whatever it is, nothing was changed on my part, just a straight install over
9.1

 

I am running Windows 7 and office 2007

Thanks

Don

 

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