RE: using the spell checker with Windows Live Mail

[Charles Short via Talk]

Hello Ms. Lingo, press alt r, then the letter s or you can just tab to where it 
says spelling and grammar.


Charlie Short

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Kim Lingo via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 6:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: using the spell checker with Windows Live Mail

Hi everyone,
I asked about this before, but perhaps I missed something.  I believe the 
person who answered me said something about pressing the f7 key to bring up the 
spell checker.  I tried that, and nothing happened.  I’m using a Dell laptop, 
and Windows 7.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
Kim Lingo
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using the spell checker with Windows Live Mail

[Kim Lingo via Talk]

Hi everyone,
I asked about this before, but perhaps I missed something.  I believe the 
person who answered me said something about pressing the f7 key to bring up the 
spell checker.  I tried that, and nothing happened.  I’m using a Dell laptop, 
and Windows 7.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
Kim Lingo
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A microsoft word problem

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

So here's what happens, when I select a document that I already created and hit 
enter to open it, it comes back and says, my title then pull down. At that 
time, it will not open the document at all.  I can, however, force it open by 
pressing F5, then it seems to straighten itself out.
Do you have any ideas what might be happening?

Veronica
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RE: Windows10 anniversary edition

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
It depends on the download, some people will get it automatically while others 
can download it using the media creation utility.

Press windows-r for run and type
Winver
And press enter it should say 1607 that is the date of release, July 2016.


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On Behalf Of Rusty Bourgoin via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 1:58 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows10 anniversary edition

How does one get windows10 anniversary edition.  Is it downloaded and installed 
automatically if one is already running windows10 or must one manually get it.  
Lastly, how can one verify that the running windows10 installation is or is not 
the anniversary edition?  Any helpful knowledge is always appreciatdd.  Thanks 
in advance.

Rusty


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Windows10 anniversary edition

[Rusty Bourgoin via Talk]

How does one get windows10 anniversary edition.  Is it downloaded and
installed automatically if one is already running windows10 or must one
manually get it.  Lastly, how can one verify that the running windows10
installation is or is not the anniversary edition?  Any helpful knowledge is
always appreciatdd.  Thanks in advance.

Rusty


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Re: AVG

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

Hi Chris:

That's good to know.
Kevin Huber

On 9/2/16, Chris Grabowski  wrote:
> This was resolved over a year ago by AVG as they whitelisted Window-eyes
> components.
> Chris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: AVG
>
> HI Tom and all:
>
> I tried the free version of AVG for awhile, but I found that it was
> eating Window-eyes, in other words, that it thought that some .exe
> files that are essential for running Window-eyes were malware so it
> deleted them.  Even though I tried to tell it that the files in
> question were not malware, it didn't seem to pay any attention.
> So then I got rid of AVG and went back to MSSE.  So far, I have had no
> problems, and it is still periodically updating its virus definitions
> which means that they are keeping it current.
> Kevin Huber
>
>
>
> On 8/31/16, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  wrote:
>> After reading comments from listers, I thought that AVG would be
>> accessible
>> with Window-Eyes 9.5 and Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. I think not so fast. My
>> problems began as I found that the installation screen did not read
>> properly. Then, when I got into the Zen afgter I finally got it installed,
>> I
>> found that screen didn’t read either. I tabbed and pressed enter at one
>> point, why I don’t know because that was foolish. I suddently lost speech.
>> I
>> rebooted, and things got quite interesting. The drive would seem to be
>> active for a while and stopped. After several other attempts with the
>> same
>> result, I had a sighted friend come over. All he saw was was a cursor
>> blinking about every second. A reboot gave him the same results. He
>> couldn’t
>> get into Windows of Safe Mode. He WAS FOMA;;U AB;E TP GET into the BIOS
>> amd
>> ex[;pre sp,e p[topms/ We tried System Restore which appeared to fail. At
>> least we were getting text shown on a working monitor. He then tried
>> Windows
>> Restore. Luckily that worked, and we got the message that System Restore
>> had
>> completed successfully. The loving Windows sounds and Window-Eyes came to
>> life. I don’t know how much to blame on AVG. Certainly, I made a silly
>> mistake. However, you guys who say AVG is so great, I wonder what your
>> system specs are. I do have an HP Pavillion. As far as I’m concerned, AVG
>> needs a big heap of help. This is the first E-mail I sent since the
>> crash.
>> Sorry for the rant.;
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RE: window eyes web site

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Yes it is down.


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On Behalf Of Brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 1:21 PM
To: talk window eyes 
Subject: window eyes web site

Is the web site down?
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RE: default browser

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
>From the search box, type 
Default browser
And press enter twice.
Tab to browser and hit space.  Tab to the browser you want and press space 
again.
If you only have two browsers it should toggle.


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On Behalf Of Brice Mijares via Talk
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To: talk window eyes 
Subject: default browser

Can someone give me step by step directions on making internet explore my 
default browser for windows ten? Thanks in advance. 

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window eyes web site

[Brice Mijares via Talk]

Is the web site down?
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default browser

[Brice Mijares via Talk]

Can someone give me step by step directions on making internet explore my 
default browser for windows ten? Thanks in advance. 


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Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

[Jim via Talk]

Hi THERE!

Although it might not work with all programs, I again used Edge to log 
into my gMail account and I cleaned out a bunch of old messsages and had 
no trouble using Edge for this purpose.  I know it doesn't work well 
with a lot of programs but it seems to be improving slowly.  BTW, I'm 
using W.E. the latest version.  Never have tried jaws since I cann only 
aford one screen reader at a time .  Just thought I would let 
you all know that Edge is somewhat useable.  Catch Ya All Later!


.


On 02-Sep-16 10:03, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Vaughan and all

It seems that Microsoft has maid a lot of improvements to Narrator
and, while they always admitted that Narrator was not a full screen
reader, it looks like they are trying to make it into a full screen
reader.  Microsoft actually did a detaled demonstration of the new
Narrator in a previous episode of Main Menu.
The other point to make is that there appears to be somewhat of a
controversary about Microsoft Edge in that Freedom Scientific has, in
fact, stated that they do not think that it is worth making JAWS work
with Edge  until Microsoft makes some improvements with Edge, while
NVaccess  is trying to make their screen reader work with Edge, and as
you pointed out, Vaughan, Microsoft is making Narrator work with Edge.

Kevin Huber

Kevin Huber


On 8/31/16, Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

It is easy to be very confused at present.


Window-Eyes still installs to a GWMicro folder.  There is still a
GwMicro website.  There is AI Squared, and there is VFO.  All one and
the same.  And then VFO is Freedom Scientific and Optelec and maybe AI
Squared.


I would like to think that my good friend Rod is correct in that the
various companies will continue to develop their products independently
of each other for a while yet, but it doesn't make good business sense
in the longer term.


If Microsoft chooses to talk to anyone regarding access to the Edge
browser by screen readers, it will talk to a VFO senior executive
member, and not necessarily to the representatives of the individual
parts of the VFO group.  I actualy think it significant that an extra
"A" or the "sqquared" has not been added to the VFO title.  And it was
significant that Microsoft decided to roll out Narraot's access to the
Edge browser, even though it knows that blind people who rely on screen
readers do not seriously use Narrator.


The VFO "muscle" is now greater than the sum of individual manufacturers
negotiating with Microsoft, but it doesn't mean that MS will give us
what we require.




Vaughan.




On 9/1/2016 1:01 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

Yeah, I wondered when I saw that question, myself.  I thought "Hello?
Freedom Scientific?  Isn't this the wrong list? And then he compounds
the felony by saying Window eyes.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:22 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

Hi Rick,

I have to say, my friend, obviously with tongue in cheek, that you're
barking up the wrong tree if you're addressing your comments to the
Freedom
Scientific staff, since, in truth, this is an AI Squared list.
The two companies may be under the same umbrella, but, in the words of
Sting, well, the Police rock band,"it's a big enough umbrella, but it'S
always me that ends up getting' wet."
I guess what I'm trying to highlight is the fact that the two
companies will
continue to work independently in the development of their screen reader
offerings, at least in the short term.

Affectionately,

Rod (smile)

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:02 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List'

Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

Thanks Chris:
That was indeed a cool answer but then you know, cool is a 4 letter word.
Rick USA

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From: Chris Skarstad [mailto:rascal0...@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:31 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

short answer it'll be ready when it's ready, and not one moment sooner or
later. lol!


Truthfully, nobody knows accept microsoft. and they ain't talking.




On 8/31/2016 6:14 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: I read Microsoft thinks the Edge Browser is ready for prime time and

has

improved accessibility hooks for screen readers.
I don't know how far it has come but you fellows at Freedom Scientific

might

know when WindowEyes will be ready to work well with the Edge Browser.
Are things ready, almost ready, not being worked on or what is the
status

of

pushing out this update?

RE: AVG

[via Talk]

Hey, Kevin.

A couple of questions, if you don't mind. How long ago did you test drive
AVG? Wasn't there some way of shutting down the anti malware part of AVG? 

--Lou N.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:37 AM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: AVG

HI Tom and all:

I tried the free version of AVG for awhile, but I found that it was
eating Window-eyes, in other words, that it thought that some .exe
files that are essential for running Window-eyes were malware so it
deleted them.  Even though I tried to tell it that the files in
question were not malware, it didn't seem to pay any attention.
So then I got rid of AVG and went back to MSSE.  So far, I have had no
problems, and it is still periodically updating its virus definitions
which means that they are keeping it current.
Kevin Huber



On 8/31/16, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  wrote:
> After reading comments from listers, I thought that AVG would be
accessible
> with Window-Eyes 9.5 and Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. I think not so fast. My
> problems began as I found that the installation screen did not read
> properly. Then, when I got into the Zen afgter I finally got it installed,
I
> found that screen didn't read either. I tabbed and pressed enter at one
> point, why I don't know because that was foolish. I suddently lost speech.
I
> rebooted, and things got quite interesting. The drive would seem to be
> active for a while and stopped. After several other attempts with the same
> result, I had a sighted friend come over. All he saw was was a cursor
> blinking about every second. A reboot gave him the same results. He
couldn't
> get into Windows of Safe Mode. He WAS FOMA;;U AB;E TP GET into the BIOS
amd
> ex[;pre sp,e p[topms/ We tried System Restore which appeared to fail. At
> least we were getting text shown on a working monitor. He then tried
Windows
> Restore. Luckily that worked, and we got the message that System Restore
had
> completed successfully. The loving Windows sounds and Window-Eyes came to
> life. I don't know how much to blame on AVG. Certainly, I made a silly
> mistake. However, you guys who say AVG is so great, I wonder what your
> system specs are. I do have an HP Pavillion. As far as I'm concerned, AVG
> needs a big heap of help. This is the first E-mail I sent since the crash.
> Sorry for the rant.;
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Re: AVG

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

When was that you had these problems?  Apparently, enough people have 
contacted AVG, because it doesn't flag window eyes files as malware, 
anymore.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:36 AM
To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: AVG

HI Tom and all:

I tried the free version of AVG for awhile, but I found that it was
eating Window-eyes, in other words, that it thought that some .exe
files that are essential for running Window-eyes were malware so it
deleted them.  Even though I tried to tell it that the files in
question were not malware, it didn't seem to pay any attention.
So then I got rid of AVG and went back to MSSE.  So far, I have had no
problems, and it is still periodically updating its virus definitions
which means that they are keeping it current.
Kevin Huber



On 8/31/16, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  wrote:
After reading comments from listers, I thought that AVG would be 
accessible

with Window-Eyes 9.5 and Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. I think not so fast. My
problems began as I found that the installation screen did not read
properly. Then, when I got into the Zen afgter I finally got it installed, 
I

found that screen didn’t read either. I tabbed and pressed enter at one
point, why I don’t know because that was foolish. I suddently lost speech. 
I

rebooted, and things got quite interesting. The drive would seem to be
active for a while and stopped. After several other attempts with the same
result, I had a sighted friend come over. All he saw was was a cursor
blinking about every second. A reboot gave him the same results. He couldn’t
get into Windows of Safe Mode. He WAS FOMA;;U AB;E TP GET into the BIOS 
amd

ex[;pre sp,e p[topms/ We tried System Restore which appeared to fail. At
least we were getting text shown on a working monitor. He then tried 
Windows
Restore. Luckily that worked, and we got the message that System Restore 
had

completed successfully. The loving Windows sounds and Window-Eyes came to
life. I don’t know how much to blame on AVG. Certainly, I made a silly
mistake. However, you guys who say AVG is so great, I wonder what your
system specs are. I do have an HP Pavillion. As far as I’m concerned, AVG
needs a big heap of help. This is the first E-mail I sent since the crash.
Sorry for the rant.;
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RE: AVG

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

This was resolved over a year ago by AVG as they whitelisted Window-eyes 
components.
Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: AVG

HI Tom and all:

I tried the free version of AVG for awhile, but I found that it was
eating Window-eyes, in other words, that it thought that some .exe
files that are essential for running Window-eyes were malware so it
deleted them.  Even though I tried to tell it that the files in
question were not malware, it didn't seem to pay any attention.
So then I got rid of AVG and went back to MSSE.  So far, I have had no
problems, and it is still periodically updating its virus definitions
which means that they are keeping it current.
Kevin Huber



On 8/31/16, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  wrote:
> After reading comments from listers, I thought that AVG would be accessible
> with Window-Eyes 9.5 and Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. I think not so fast. My
> problems began as I found that the installation screen did not read
> properly. Then, when I got into the Zen afgter I finally got it installed, I
> found that screen didn’t read either. I tabbed and pressed enter at one
> point, why I don’t know because that was foolish. I suddently lost speech. I
> rebooted, and things got quite interesting. The drive would seem to be
> active for a while and stopped. After several other attempts with the same
> result, I had a sighted friend come over. All he saw was was a cursor
> blinking about every second. A reboot gave him the same results. He couldn’t
> get into Windows of Safe Mode. He WAS FOMA;;U AB;E TP GET into the BIOS amd
> ex[;pre sp,e p[topms/ We tried System Restore which appeared to fail. At
> least we were getting text shown on a working monitor. He then tried Windows
> Restore. Luckily that worked, and we got the message that System Restore had
> completed successfully. The loving Windows sounds and Window-Eyes came to
> life. I don’t know how much to blame on AVG. Certainly, I made a silly
> mistake. However, you guys who say AVG is so great, I wonder what your
> system specs are. I do have an HP Pavillion. As far as I’m concerned, AVG
> needs a big heap of help. This is the first E-mail I sent since the crash.
> Sorry for the rant.;
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Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

Hi Vaughan and all

It seems that Microsoft has maid a lot of improvements to Narrator
and, while they always admitted that Narrator was not a full screen
reader, it looks like they are trying to make it into a full screen
reader.  Microsoft actually did a detaled demonstration of the new
Narrator in a previous episode of Main Menu.
The other point to make is that there appears to be somewhat of a
controversary about Microsoft Edge in that Freedom Scientific has, in
fact, stated that they do not think that it is worth making JAWS work
with Edge  until Microsoft makes some improvements with Edge, while
NVaccess  is trying to make their screen reader work with Edge, and as
you pointed out, Vaughan, Microsoft is making Narrator work with Edge.

Kevin Huber

Kevin Huber


On 8/31/16, Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:
> It is easy to be very confused at present.
>
>
> Window-Eyes still installs to a GWMicro folder.  There is still a
> GwMicro website.  There is AI Squared, and there is VFO.  All one and
> the same.  And then VFO is Freedom Scientific and Optelec and maybe AI
> Squared.
>
>
> I would like to think that my good friend Rod is correct in that the
> various companies will continue to develop their products independently
> of each other for a while yet, but it doesn't make good business sense
> in the longer term.
>
>
> If Microsoft chooses to talk to anyone regarding access to the Edge
> browser by screen readers, it will talk to a VFO senior executive
> member, and not necessarily to the representatives of the individual
> parts of the VFO group.  I actualy think it significant that an extra
> "A" or the "sqquared" has not been added to the VFO title.  And it was
> significant that Microsoft decided to roll out Narraot's access to the
> Edge browser, even though it knows that blind people who rely on screen
> readers do not seriously use Narrator.
>
>
> The VFO "muscle" is now greater than the sum of individual manufacturers
> negotiating with Microsoft, but it doesn't mean that MS will give us
> what we require.
>
>
>
>
> Vaughan.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/1/2016 1:01 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>> Yeah, I wondered when I saw that question, myself.  I thought "Hello?
>> Freedom Scientific?  Isn't this the wrong list? And then he compounds
>> the felony by saying Window eyes.  Pam.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:22 PM
>> To: 'Rick Thomas' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I have to say, my friend, obviously with tongue in cheek, that you're
>> barking up the wrong tree if you're addressing your comments to the
>> Freedom
>> Scientific staff, since, in truth, this is an AI Squared list.
>> The two companies may be under the same umbrella, but, in the words of
>> Sting, well, the Police rock band,"it's a big enough umbrella, but it'S
>> always me that ends up getting' wet."
>> I guess what I'm trying to highlight is the fact that the two
>> companies will
>> continue to work independently in the development of their screen reader
>> offerings, at least in the short term.
>>
>> Affectionately,
>>
>> Rod (smile)
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Rick Thomas via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:02 PM
>> To: 'Chris Skarstad' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
>> List'
>> 
>> Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes
>>
>> Thanks Chris:
>> That was indeed a cool answer but then you know, cool is a 4 letter word.
>> Rick USA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Chris Skarstad [mailto:rascal0...@verizon.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:31 PM
>> To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> 
>> Subject: Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes
>>
>> short answer it'll be ready when it's ready, and not one moment sooner or
>> later. lol!
>>
>>
>> Truthfully, nobody knows accept microsoft. and they ain't talking.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/2016 6:14 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi: I read Microsoft thinks the Edge Browser is ready for prime time and
>> has
>>> improved accessibility hooks for screen readers.
>>> I don't know how far it has come but you fellows at Freedom Scientific
>> might
>>> know when WindowEyes will be ready to work well with the Edge Browser.
>>> Are things ready, almost ready, not being worked on or what is the
>>> status
>> of
>>> pushing out this update?
>>> Rick USA
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Re: AVG

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

HI Tom and all:

I tried the free version of AVG for awhile, but I found that it was
eating Window-eyes, in other words, that it thought that some .exe
files that are essential for running Window-eyes were malware so it
deleted them.  Even though I tried to tell it that the files in
question were not malware, it didn't seem to pay any attention.
So then I got rid of AVG and went back to MSSE.  So far, I have had no
problems, and it is still periodically updating its virus definitions
which means that they are keeping it current.
Kevin Huber



On 8/31/16, Tom Fairhurst via Talk  wrote:
> After reading comments from listers, I thought that AVG would be accessible
> with Window-Eyes 9.5 and Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. I think not so fast. My
> problems began as I found that the installation screen did not read
> properly. Then, when I got into the Zen afgter I finally got it installed, I
> found that screen didn’t read either. I tabbed and pressed enter at one
> point, why I don’t know because that was foolish. I suddently lost speech. I
> rebooted, and things got quite interesting. The drive would seem to be
> active for a while and stopped. After several other attempts with the same
> result, I had a sighted friend come over. All he saw was was a cursor
> blinking about every second. A reboot gave him the same results. He couldn’t
> get into Windows of Safe Mode. He WAS FOMA;;U AB;E TP GET into the BIOS amd
> ex[;pre sp,e p[topms/ We tried System Restore which appeared to fail. At
> least we were getting text shown on a working monitor. He then tried Windows
> Restore. Luckily that worked, and we got the message that System Restore had
> completed successfully. The loving Windows sounds and Window-Eyes came to
> life. I don’t know how much to blame on AVG. Certainly, I made a silly
> mistake. However, you guys who say AVG is so great, I wonder what your
> system specs are. I do have an HP Pavillion. As far as I’m concerned, AVG
> needs a big heap of help. This is the first E-mail I sent since the crash.
> Sorry for the rant.;
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RE: is spybot accessible

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

It is probably one of the first spyware removal programs.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 5:10 PM
To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: is spybot accessible

What is this program never heard of it before

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:34 PM, David via Talk  wrote:
> 
> If you are asking about Spybot Search & Destroy, then Yes, it is 
> accessible enough.
> 
> 
> You have to use the mousekeys some, but then again, which program now 
> aday does not require you to do so?
> 
> 
> Also, I find that it is easier to run the different parts of the 
> package, off from the SysTray, instead of trying to operate the main 
> control panel of the package. Go to the SysTray, arrow to the Spybot 
> Icon, and press Shift-F10 or the App-key. Then arrow down to the 
> individual task you are looking for, like Update, Immunize or System 
> scan, and hit Enter. The chosen software will open. Here hit Alt-T for 
> choosing Task, and use the arrow keys to make your selection, before 
> hitting Enter. To read the results, and the progress of the task, you 
> need your mousekeys.
> 
> 
> Like I said, accessible enough, and mainly does a pretty good job. 
> Just ran a scan this morning, and got an end to some buggy behavior on my 
> system.
> 
> 
> Please note, I only have tried the free version of the software, 
> cannot speak for any differences in the paid version.
> 
> 
> 
> David
> 
>> On 9/1/2016 3:41 PM, Lee Hodgson via Talk wrote:
>> Hi
>> can anyone tell me if spybot is still usable with window eyes.  I 
>> loved it in the old days, but not sure how accessible it is now. so 
>> wanted to check before considering installing.
>> thanks
>> Lee, Emily my guiding  furry snowflake and Chester and simba the 
>> feline fellas leehodge on dice world My wife is JessHodge on Dice 
>> world Follow me on Twitter Lee__Hodgson with two underlines between 
>> first and second names, and on audioboo user name leehodge
>> 
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Re: is spybot accessible

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Is spy bot accessible?
- Original Message - 
From: "David via Talk" 
To: ; "Window-Eyes DiscussionList" 


Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: is spybot accessible



Spybot Search & Destroy, is an Anti-Spyware program. It will take care
of an extensive list of known malwares, search for them, and destroy or
delete them.


Besides having a system scanning function, it also have the capability
of "watching" your system activity. For instance, when surfing the net,
it may block certain malicious activity.


One interesting detail of it, is that it has an Imunizer - that is, it
will prevent your system from future attacks, even if they are not yet
at your machine. At least, that is what they attempt to do.


It does come in both a free version, and a paid for flavor. Main
difference, from what I can make out, is that the paid for version will
automatically update its databases, whereas the free version requires
you to do so once a week or so. Further, it seems the paid for version
will have some extra watchdogs hanging around your system, just to make
sure even less intruders will have their chance.


Yesterday morning, I did find my system acting up on me. For one thing,
the fan kept spinning more than usual, and Thunderbird and WE did not go
hand in hand as they should. Well, and just in general, I found it was
time for a system cleanup. I ran Spybot, it found some 20 issues, which
I asked it to automatically do with, as it desired. And now, my system
is back to good performance, and I can write and edit my emails as usual
again. Apparently, some strange stuff had sneaked in here. Not saying
this is the ONE AND ONLY software to go for. I regularly run a handful
security packages here. But at least it is worth a try with the Spybot
cleaner. A few days ago, I ran Malwarebytes, and although it took care
of some of the issues on the machine, it obviously did not do all of
them. This not to hold one against the other, but just to underline the
importance of scrubbing your PC with different tools and detergents
every now and then.


Spybot has their own homepage, which you could search on the net, to get
the more full picture of their software and services.



David

On 9/1/2016 11:10 PM, brennenki...@gmail.com wrote:

What is this program never heard of it before

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2016, at 2:34 PM, David via Talk  
wrote:


If you are asking about Spybot Search & Destroy, then Yes, it is
accessible enough.


You have to use the mousekeys some, but then again, which program now
aday does not require you to do so?


Also, I find that it is easier to run the different parts of the
package, off from the SysTray, instead of trying to operate the main
control panel of the package. Go to the SysTray, arrow to the Spybot
Icon, and press Shift-F10 or the App-key. Then arrow down to the
individual task you are looking for, like Update, Immunize or System
scan, and hit Enter. The chosen software will open. Here hit Alt-T for
choosing Task, and use the arrow keys to make your selection, before
hitting Enter. To read the results, and the progress of the task, you
need your mousekeys.


Like I said, accessible enough, and mainly does a pretty good job. Just
ran a scan this morning, and got an end to some buggy behavior on my 
system.



Please note, I only have tried the free version of the software, cannot
speak for any differences in the paid version.



David


On 9/1/2016 3:41 PM, Lee Hodgson via Talk wrote:
Hi
can anyone tell me if spybot is still usable with window eyes.  I
loved it in the old days, but not sure how accessible it is now. so
wanted to check before considering installing.
thanks
Lee, Emily my guiding  furry snowflake and Chester and simba the
feline fellas
leehodge on dice world
My wife is JessHodge on Dice world
Follow me on Twitter Lee__Hodgson with two underlines between first
and second names, and on audioboo user name leehodge


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