Hi Vaughan and all It seems that Microsoft has maid a lot of improvements to Narrator and, while they always admitted that Narrator was not a full screen reader, it looks like they are trying to make it into a full screen reader. Microsoft actually did a detaled demonstration of the new Narrator in a previous episode of Main Menu. The other point to make is that there appears to be somewhat of a controversary about Microsoft Edge in that Freedom Scientific has, in fact, stated that they do not think that it is worth making JAWS work with Edge until Microsoft makes some improvements with Edge, while NVaccess is trying to make their screen reader work with Edge, and as you pointed out, Vaughan, Microsoft is making Narrator work with Edge.
Kevin Huber Kevin Huber On 8/31/16, Vaughan Dodd via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > It is easy to be very confused at present. > > > Window-Eyes still installs to a GWMicro folder. There is still a > GwMicro website. There is AI Squared, and there is VFO. All one and > the same. And then VFO is Freedom Scientific and Optelec and maybe AI > Squared. > > > I would like to think that my good friend Rod is correct in that the > various companies will continue to develop their products independently > of each other for a while yet, but it doesn't make good business sense > in the longer term. > > > If Microsoft chooses to talk to anyone regarding access to the Edge > browser by screen readers, it will talk to a VFO senior executive > member, and not necessarily to the representatives of the individual > parts of the VFO group. I actualy think it significant that an extra > "A" or the "sqquared" has not been added to the VFO title. And it was > significant that Microsoft decided to roll out Narraot's access to the > Edge browser, even though it knows that blind people who rely on screen > readers do not seriously use Narrator. > > > The VFO "muscle" is now greater than the sum of individual manufacturers > negotiating with Microsoft, but it doesn't mean that MS will give us > what we require. > > > > > Vaughan. > > > > > On 9/1/2016 1:01 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >> Yeah, I wondered when I saw that question, myself. I thought "Hello? >> Freedom Scientific? Isn't this the wrong list? And then he compounds >> the felony by saying Window eyes. Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:22 PM >> To: 'Rick Thomas' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes >> >> Hi Rick, >> >> I have to say, my friend, obviously with tongue in cheek, that you're >> barking up the wrong tree if you're addressing your comments to the >> Freedom >> Scientific staff, since, in truth, this is an AI Squared list. >> The two companies may be under the same umbrella, but, in the words of >> Sting, well, the Police rock band,"it's a big enough umbrella, but it'S >> always me that ends up getting' wet." >> I guess what I'm trying to highlight is the fact that the two >> companies will >> continue to work independently in the development of their screen reader >> offerings, at least in the short term. >> >> Affectionately, >> >> Rod (smile) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Rick Thomas via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:02 PM >> To: 'Chris Skarstad' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion >> List' >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes >> >> Thanks Chris: >> That was indeed a cool answer but then you know, cool is a 4 letter word. >> Rick USA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Skarstad [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:31 PM >> To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes >> >> short answer it'll be ready when it's ready, and not one moment sooner or >> later. lol! >> >> >> Truthfully, nobody knows accept microsoft. and they ain't talking. >> >> >> >> >> On 8/31/2016 6:14 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: >>> Hi: I read Microsoft thinks the Edge Browser is ready for prime time and >> has >>> improved accessibility hooks for screen readers. >>> I don't know how far it has come but you fellows at Freedom Scientific >> might >>> know when WindowEyes will be ready to work well with the Edge Browser. >>> Are things ready, almost ready, not being worked on or what is the >>> status >> of >>> pushing out this update? 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