Re: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

Fri, 02 Sep 2016 07:56:22 -0700 

Hi THERE!
Although it might not work with all programs, I again used Edge to log into my gMail account and I cleaned out a bunch of old messsages and had no trouble using Edge for this purpose. I know it doesn't work well with a lot of programs but it seems to be improving slowly. BTW, I'm using W.E. the latest version. Never have tried jaws since I cann only aford one screen reader at a time <SMILE!>. Just thought I would let you all know that Edge is somewhat useable. Catch Ya All Later! 

<KF8LT><Jim>.


On 02-Sep-16 10:03, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Vaughan and all

It seems that Microsoft has maid a lot of improvements to Narrator
and, while they always admitted that Narrator was not a full screen
reader, it looks like they are trying to make it into a full screen
reader.  Microsoft actually did a detaled demonstration of the new
Narrator in a previous episode of Main Menu.
The other point to make is that there appears to be somewhat of a
controversary about Microsoft Edge in that Freedom Scientific has, in
fact, stated that they do not think that it is worth making JAWS work
with Edge  until Microsoft makes some improvements with Edge, while
NVaccess  is trying to make their screen reader work with Edge, and as
you pointed out, Vaughan, Microsoft is making Narrator work with Edge.

Kevin Huber

Kevin Huber


On 8/31/16, Vaughan Dodd via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

It is easy to be very confused at present.


Window-Eyes still installs to a GWMicro folder.  There is still a
GwMicro website.  There is AI Squared, and there is VFO.  All one and
the same.  And then VFO is Freedom Scientific and Optelec and maybe AI
Squared.


I would like to think that my good friend Rod is correct in that the
various companies will continue to develop their products independently
of each other for a while yet, but it doesn't make good business sense
in the longer term.


If Microsoft chooses to talk to anyone regarding access to the Edge
browser by screen readers, it will talk to a VFO senior executive
member, and not necessarily to the representatives of the individual
parts of the VFO group.  I actualy think it significant that an extra
"A" or the "sqquared" has not been added to the VFO title.  And it was
significant that Microsoft decided to roll out Narraot's access to the
Edge browser, even though it knows that blind people who rely on screen
readers do not seriously use Narrator.


The VFO "muscle" is now greater than the sum of individual manufacturers
negotiating with Microsoft, but it doesn't mean that MS will give us
what we require.




Vaughan.




On 9/1/2016 1:01 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

Yeah, I wondered when I saw that question, myself.  I thought "Hello?
Freedom Scientific?  Isn't this the wrong list? And then he compounds
the felony by saying Window eyes.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:22 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: When will Edge Browser be ready Under WindowEyes

Hi Rick,

I have to say, my friend, obviously with tongue in cheek, that you're
barking up the wrong tree if you're addressing your comments to the
Freedom
Scientific staff, since, in truth, this is an AI Squared list.
The two companies may be under the same umbrella, but, in the words of
Sting, well, the Police rock band,"it's a big enough umbrella, but it'S
always me that ends up getting' wet."
I guess what I'm trying to highlight is the fact that the two
companies will
continue to work independently in the development of their screen reader
offerings, at least in the short term.

Affectionately,

Rod (smile)

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Thanks Chris:
That was indeed a cool answer but then you know, cool is a 4 letter word.
Rick USA

-----Original Message-----
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short answer it'll be ready when it's ready, and not one moment sooner or
later. lol!


Truthfully, nobody knows accept microsoft. and they ain't talking.




On 8/31/2016 6:14 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: I read Microsoft thinks the Edge Browser is ready for prime time and

has

improved accessibility hooks for screen readers.
I don't know how far it has come but you fellows at Freedom Scientific

might

know when WindowEyes will be ready to work well with the Edge Browser.
Are things ready, almost ready, not being worked on or what is the
status

of

pushing out this update?
Rick USA

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