Re: Buying Music

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

How do you purchase and download music without using the Amazon Music app? I 
too remember how difficult it got to buy usic and then download it, so I 
stopped using Amazon.


-Original Message- 
From: William Vandervest via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:48 PM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: OT: Buying Music

you no longer need to use the amazon music app to buy or download albums or
single songs, single songs are downloaded as mp3 files and albums are
downloaded as mp3 files all in a zip file, they still ask you to use or
install the amazon music app, but you can choose to use your default
downloader





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William and Leader Dog Lynerd
-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 18:55
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: OT: Buying Music

Hello,

I see some questions here asking about using I-tunes.

I once bought music from Amazon, but when they implemented needing to
use their Music program, I stopped purchasing.

Here is my question:

Are there any On Line Music Stores that sell Single Songs?  And the
important thing I am wanting is that these files are just MP3, and they
need No Special Player such as I-Tunes, or what ever Amazon is using
today.

I do realize these Players are used to keep Customers from buying a song
and then giving that song to a buddy.

I am not giving music to friends, but only want to keep my songs, so
they play on anything I own that plays MP3 files.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Grumpy Dave


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RE: Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Robin,

Press these keystrokes, one at a time:

Alt, v, y, o

This opens the multi-tab Folder Options dialog you'll remember from Windows 7.
The View tab has the Apply to all folders button you need. Smile

Hth,

Rod


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:22 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10

I've figured this out in the past, but cannot find it in Windows 10.  I've 
opened Windows Explorer, gotten the layout the way I want, but cannot find 
where to tell it to have all folders mirror the one I just did.  A hint please?



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Re: OT: Buying Music

[William Vandervest via Talk]

you no longer need to use the amazon music app to buy or download albums or 
single songs, single songs are downloaded as mp3 files and albums are 
downloaded as mp3 files all in a zip file, they still ask you to use or 
install the amazon music app, but you can choose to use your default 
downloader






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William and Leader Dog Lynerd
-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 18:55
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: OT: Buying Music

Hello,

I see some questions here asking about using I-tunes.

I once bought music from Amazon, but when they implemented needing to
use their Music program, I stopped purchasing.

Here is my question:

Are there any On Line Music Stores that sell Single Songs?  And the
important thing I am wanting is that these files are just MP3, and they
need No Special Player such as I-Tunes, or what ever Amazon is using
today.

I do realize these Players are used to keep Customers from buying a song
and then giving that song to a buddy.

I am not giving music to friends, but only want to keep my songs, so
they play on anything I own that plays MP3 files.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Grumpy Dave


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Windows 10; printing a document

[Martha via Talk]

Okay, I have made the leap from XP to 10.  I get lost in the ribbon.
I have opened up File Explorer, have found a *.doc in Documents, and
want to print it.
With the item selected, I've tried using the context/applications key
and did not find a print option.  The Send to pulldown did not include a
printer.

I tried using control + P key combination, but, did not get the print
dialogue box.

I tried to find the print option in the ribbon without success.  

Would one of you kind souls send step by step instructions.  I'm stuck.

Using WE 9.5.1.

Martha
mrea...@comcast.net

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icons on firefox toolbar

[Dave Bahr via Talk]

Hi all, 

 

So, I'm wondering. Does anyone know of a good way to access the icons on the
firefox toolbar? The ones that programs love to put there because it's
convenient with the mouse, but since window-eyes can't read with the mouse
keys, how do you get there? If I use the control-shift-w hotkey to read the
active window, it read them, but doing a virtual view with the active window
set to UI, while it shows them, doesn't let me click on them. Can you no
longer do the left-click, double-click, etc.hotkeys in virtual view?
Otherwise, there's no way to use the customize page in the view menu. 

 

Any ideas? 

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OT: Buying Music

[Dave via Talk]

Hello,

I see some questions here asking about using I-tunes.  

I once bought music from Amazon, but when they implemented needing to
use their Music program, I stopped purchasing.  

Here is my question:

Are there any On Line Music Stores that sell Single Songs?  And the
important thing I am wanting is that these files are just MP3, and they
need No Special Player such as I-Tunes, or what ever Amazon is using
today.  

I do realize these Players are used to keep Customers from buying a song
and then giving that song to a buddy.  

I am not giving music to friends, but only want to keep my songs, so
they play on anything I own that plays MP3 files.  

Thanks for any suggestions.

Grumpy Dave


-- 
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Updating iTunes account

[Vaughan Dodd via Talk]

Greetings.

Hoping for a suggestion regarding successfully updating iTunes accounts 
please?


Specifically: Neither Window-Eyes or NVDA report the checked status of 
the payment method button.  It does seem that browse mode off might 
allow the che ck or uncheck toggle to work, but inconsistently.


When I activate the "done" button, it comes back with a request to 
correct the errors, but it does not read the erros which require correction.


We know that iTunes has some accessibility problems (which should not be 
there) and the consensus is that it is Apple's mess to fix, but there 
are Window-Eyes users who have successfully fixed the update account 
nformation stuff, so suggestions appreciated.


Thanks.

Vaughan.


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Re: Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

I tried it some time back and didn't speak at all.  May look like it on 
screen, but didn't talk for me.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk 
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Does anyone know any thing about this?
Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express for those who miss 
that long-defunct program:

https://www.oeclassic.com/
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Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I've figured this out in the past, but cannot find it in Windows 10.  I've 
opened Windows Explorer, gotten the layout the way I want, but cannot find 
where to tell it to have all folders mirror the one I just did.  A hint please?



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RE: Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: I googled it and it looks like a reputable product.
The reviews I read said it is very similar to WindowsXP version of Outlook
Express.
Let me know how you find using it, the setup process and the accessibility -
does it use the Menu Dropdowns like Outlook Express did?
Outlook Express was indeed a very nice e-mail provider to work with.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:28 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express 

Does anyone know any thing about this?
Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express for those who miss
that long-defunct program:

https://www.oeclassic.com/ 
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Re: new laptop keyboard issue

[Stephen Clark via Talk]

Dell is the same way, or perhaps even worse. I thought it would be easy 
to set up a Dell Inspiron laptop for a family member. It had a full size 
keyboard wich included a numpad and everything. Boy was I wrong!
Instead of the normal functions for function keys, they were all defined 
for controlling volume, brightness level, turning wi-fi on/off, etc. The 
delete key was located some where along the right hand side on the top 
row followed by pg up, pg down, home and the end key straight across the 
top in that order. There was no applications key that I could find either.


On 9/7/2016 3:14 PM, David via Talk wrote:

Although I cannot speak for your particular system or issue, my
experience with newer HP machines is that they need a tweak in the BIOS,
to have the top-row of your keyboard behave normal. A tweak that only
can be performed with two eyes around, since the BIOS has to be accessed
long before any software is loaded. This silliness of redefining the
keys, requiring them to be combined with the FN-key, even for plain
standard operations like closing a program, is something that even
sighted people complains about. The net is full of such complains, just
do a bit of a search on the matter. HP machines are known to be among
the troublemakers in this regard, but even other manufacturers have been
reported to follow the same strange line of defining the keyboard. Had
they even let the user have a key-combo to switch the normal and strange
layout/behavior, but nope, not so well. BIOS is the one and only way
around the matter.


I ended up ditching a machine from HP, since I do have no eyes that were
qualified for the redefinition, and I simply could no longer stand the
whole FN-business. That was even on a full-sized keyboard on a 17"
laptop, where there was no real good reason for having this kind of
strangeness, since there would be no need for excessive multi-function
of any key. Why HP has deicded to go down that line, even when their
long-time customers do not want the stuff, is another part of the story.


Sorry, I cannot be of more assistance on the matter. Do you happen to
have two eyes around, and do you want to meddle with the BIOS of your
machine, you likely can fix the issue. Otherwise, CapsLock to replace
the Insert-key in WE, is of course but one workaround. Still, you may
need the FN-key in combination with any of your F-keys, which can be
tiresome in the long run. Too bad that we often will have to skip the
whole line of HP machines, just because of silly layout, but in reality
I am afraid that is the best advice at the moment. HP used to be stirdy
good and reliable machines, but their stubbornness on the FN-key simply
pulls the plug for many a user - sighted or not.



David

On 9/7/2016 5:23 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:

I have an interesting challenge on my new HP laptop keyboard.  I realized 
before I bought it that it did not have an application key, but the discovery 
since buying it is that the Insert Key does not work as Insert unless I hit the 
FN key.  If I just hit the button alone, it's print screen.  The insert is just 
to the right of the F12 key.  I'm still looking for how I might be able to 
change the setting to not require the FN key to make any of the function keys 
and the insert work as I'd like, but wondering if anyone has any good 
suggestions in the meantime for WE commands where I want to use Insert without 
finger gymnastics to also hit the FN key.




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Re: new laptop keyboard issue

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I bet they wanted to know where the command key was, and where the q was. 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan Cohn via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:47 AM
To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: new laptop keyboard issue

I think this is a generational thing for the sighted. People I have worked 
with who have only used Windows / Macintosh systems and are sighted tend to 
just use the eye candy on the screen to do most of the functions assigned to 
function keys. It was amusing when I was in the Apple store this weekend and 
they were giving an introductory class. "Now Everybody hold down the command 
key and hit Q, can you tell me what happened?"  There are even rumors out 
that some new computers will have a mini display associated with the 
function keys and will alter the display based on the application running. 
Won't that be fun!



Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:14 PM, David via Talk  
wrote:


Although I cannot speak for your particular system or issue, my
experience with newer HP machines is that they need a tweak in the BIOS,
to have the top-row of your keyboard behave normal. A tweak that only
can be performed with two eyes around, since the BIOS has to be accessed
long before any software is loaded. This silliness of redefining the
keys, requiring them to be combined with the FN-key, even for plain
standard operations like closing a program, is something that even
sighted people complains about. The net is full of such complains, just
do a bit of a search on the matter. HP machines are known to be among
the troublemakers in this regard, but even other manufacturers have been
reported to follow the same strange line of defining the keyboard. Had
they even let the user have a key-combo to switch the normal and strange
layout/behavior, but nope, not so well. BIOS is the one and only way
around the matter.


I ended up ditching a machine from HP, since I do have no eyes that were
qualified for the redefinition, and I simply could no longer stand the
whole FN-business. That was even on a full-sized keyboard on a 17"
laptop, where there was no real good reason for having this kind of
strangeness, since there would be no need for excessive multi-function
of any key. Why HP has deicded to go down that line, even when their
long-time customers do not want the stuff, is another part of the story.


Sorry, I cannot be of more assistance on the matter. Do you happen to
have two eyes around, and do you want to meddle with the BIOS of your
machine, you likely can fix the issue. Otherwise, CapsLock to replace
the Insert-key in WE, is of course but one workaround. Still, you may
need the FN-key in combination with any of your F-keys, which can be
tiresome in the long run. Too bad that we often will have to skip the
whole line of HP machines, just because of silly layout, but in reality
I am afraid that is the best advice at the moment. HP used to be stirdy
good and reliable machines, but their stubbornness on the FN-key simply
pulls the plug for many a user - sighted or not.



David

On 9/7/2016 5:23 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
I have an interesting challenge on my new HP laptop keyboard.  I realized 
before I bought it that it did not have an application key, but the 
discovery since buying it is that the Insert Key does not work as Insert 
unless I hit the FN key.  If I just hit the button alone, it's print 
screen.  The insert is just to the right of the F12 key.  I'm still 
looking for how I might be able to change the setting to not require the 
FN key to make any of the function keys and the insert work as I'd like, 
but wondering if anyone has any good suggestions in the meantime for WE 
commands where I want to use Insert without finger gymnastics to also hit 
the FN key.





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Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com


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Better late than never, was RE: Very Minor Suggestion Regarding the B and Shift B Command inBrowse Mode

[via Talk]

Hi, David and Rod.

I was going through old, old emails and ran across this one. Don't know how
I missed it when it was first posted. Quite funny.

There is a way to stop the confusion without baking it into Window-Eyes, by
the way. Set the window-Eyes verbosity to speak the window type before the
window data. The setting is in the verbosity> common> focused settings.
There is a combo box called speak window types wihch is set by default to
after window data. If you switch the setting to before window data,
Window-Eyes will announce the word button first. This way, in a hypothetical
situation where you press the b hot key and there is no button on the page,
Window-Eyes would say, "No button." But if you pressed the b hot key and
there was indeed a button with the label "no," Window-Eyes would say,
"Button, no."

Better late than never?
Lou N.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:16 PM
To: 'David Goldfield'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Very Minor Suggestion Regarding the B and Shift B Command
inBrowse Mode

Hi David,

I think the Window-Eyes developers are trying to cut down on verbosity, to
save our ears, whenever possible.
Of course, one could always navigate away from and back to the alleged
button to test its presence.
I did get a chuckle from your post, though, and thanks. Smile

All the best,

Rod

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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:05 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Very Minor Suggestion Regarding the B and Shift B Command in Browse
Mode

Yesterday, I was navigating through a Web page and I pressed the letter 
B as I thought that the page contained buttons. As it happens, the page 
did not contain any buttons and Window-eyes understandably said "no 
button." I thought, however, that this was, in fact, a button labeled 
"no" as in a form where you have a "yes" button and a "no" button. It's 
almost funny, really, and I found it amusing. I wonder if the message 
should be changed to something like "no button available" or words to 
that effect.
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Re: Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express

[Brice Mijares via Talk]

   I'd be interested in knowing more as well. Does it come with a spell 
checker?
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 7:27 AM
Subject: Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express



Does anyone know any thing about this?
Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express for those who 
miss that long-defunct program:


https://www.oeclassic.com/
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Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Does anyone know any thing about this?
Here is an email program that may replace Outlook Express for those who miss 
that long-defunct program:

https://www.oeclassic.com/ 
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Re: new laptop keyboard issue

[Jonathan Cohn via Talk]

I think this is a generational thing for the sighted. People I have worked with 
who have only used Windows / Macintosh systems and are sighted tend to just use 
the eye candy on the screen to do most of the functions assigned to function 
keys. It was amusing when I was in the Apple store this weekend and they were 
giving an introductory class. "Now Everybody hold down the command key and hit 
Q, can you tell me what happened?"  There are even rumors out that some new 
computers will have a mini display associated with the function keys and will 
alter the display based on the application running. Won't that be fun!


Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:14 PM, David via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Although I cannot speak for your particular system or issue, my 
> experience with newer HP machines is that they need a tweak in the BIOS, 
> to have the top-row of your keyboard behave normal. A tweak that only 
> can be performed with two eyes around, since the BIOS has to be accessed 
> long before any software is loaded. This silliness of redefining the 
> keys, requiring them to be combined with the FN-key, even for plain 
> standard operations like closing a program, is something that even 
> sighted people complains about. The net is full of such complains, just 
> do a bit of a search on the matter. HP machines are known to be among 
> the troublemakers in this regard, but even other manufacturers have been 
> reported to follow the same strange line of defining the keyboard. Had 
> they even let the user have a key-combo to switch the normal and strange 
> layout/behavior, but nope, not so well. BIOS is the one and only way 
> around the matter.
> 
> 
> I ended up ditching a machine from HP, since I do have no eyes that were 
> qualified for the redefinition, and I simply could no longer stand the 
> whole FN-business. That was even on a full-sized keyboard on a 17" 
> laptop, where there was no real good reason for having this kind of 
> strangeness, since there would be no need for excessive multi-function 
> of any key. Why HP has deicded to go down that line, even when their 
> long-time customers do not want the stuff, is another part of the story.
> 
> 
> Sorry, I cannot be of more assistance on the matter. Do you happen to 
> have two eyes around, and do you want to meddle with the BIOS of your 
> machine, you likely can fix the issue. Otherwise, CapsLock to replace 
> the Insert-key in WE, is of course but one workaround. Still, you may 
> need the FN-key in combination with any of your F-keys, which can be 
> tiresome in the long run. Too bad that we often will have to skip the 
> whole line of HP machines, just because of silly layout, but in reality 
> I am afraid that is the best advice at the moment. HP used to be stirdy 
> good and reliable machines, but their stubbornness on the FN-key simply 
> pulls the plug for many a user - sighted or not.
> 
> 
> 
> David
> 
> On 9/7/2016 5:23 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
>> I have an interesting challenge on my new HP laptop keyboard.  I realized 
>> before I bought it that it did not have an application key, but the 
>> discovery since buying it is that the Insert Key does not work as Insert 
>> unless I hit the FN key.  If I just hit the button alone, it's print screen. 
>>  The insert is just to the right of the F12 key.  I'm still looking for how 
>> I might be able to change the setting to not require the FN key to make any 
>> of the function keys and the insert work as I'd like, but wondering if 
>> anyone has any good suggestions in the meantime for WE commands where I want 
>> to use Insert without finger gymnastics to also hit the FN key.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
>> 720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com
>> 
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RE: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Jo,

It's a bit of a learning curve, but you first need to install Adobe Acrobat
DC here:

https://get.adobe.com/reader/

After this, you would install the software, and I figure you would be given
the option of making it the default program for opening PDFs, but even if
not this can be done quite easily.
There are number of configurations you could make in order to make reading
PDFs easier, like changing to continuous rather than page mode, but
Control-Page Down and Control-PageUp will move you from page to page.
I won't say too much now, but this should get you going. Smile

Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:51 AM
To: Talk 
Subject: How do I read PDFs in windows 10 please

Hi, how do I read PDF files that I receive as attachments in my emails? I'm
using windows 10 and the latest version of window eyes. I have attempted to
use acrobat or Adobe Acrobat DC and I don't know how to use the thing. Maybe
my brain is mush do I really have to use Microsoft edge?

Jo Taliaferro 
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Re: new laptop keyboard issue

[michaels mail via Talk]

Hi Robin i had same problem i brought a new HP laptop this year and hated 
the FN key set up.
So i took it back to the store and the guy their fixed it up in the bios 
easy to do with sight.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:23 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: new laptop keyboard issue

I have an interesting challenge on my new HP laptop keyboard.  I realized 
before I bought it that it did not have an application key, but the 
discovery since buying it is that the Insert Key does not work as Insert 
unless I hit the FN key.  If I just hit the button alone, it's print screen. 
The insert is just to the right of the F12 key.  I'm still looking for how I 
might be able to change the setting to not require the FN key to make any of 
the function keys and the insert work as I'd like, but wondering if anyone 
has any good suggestions in the meantime for WE commands where I want to use 
Insert without finger gymnastics to also hit the FN key.





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