Re: Braille display stuff

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Vaughan, I agree with you completely.
I have always believed that the corporate model has no place in the
access technology field, since it puts profit above humanity.  This has
nothing to do with paying people who know what they're talking about a
proper rate for their knowledge and commitment, it's the other layers of
hangers-on who are the problem.  If there's a choice between first class
support and the amount of this year's dividend, the former will be
sacrificed to the latter.

-- 
Reg


On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:56:15 +1300
Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I intend to use this message to also discuss list moderation and user support 
> requirements.
> 
> 
> Prompted by a list member's comment that Support did not know about the 
> braille display freezing problem: I've browsed through the list archives.  If 
> you do a simple search just on braille, there are 420 posts. More 
> sophisticated searches can of course be carried out.   Topic themes vary, but 
> there is discussion about braille displays freezing, and the need to restart 
> Window-eyes to bring them back to life.
> 
> So: shame on support - one would hope that at the very least, as part of 
> trying to be helpful, searching the company's own customer support resource 
> would have informed the customer support person.
> 
> This morning, using my serial number so that it is a customer support 
> request, I emailed Aaron and the Wesupport address.  Neither has bounced, but 
> I do know that people have asked if Aaron is still around and I haven't seen 
> a reply to that request.
> 
> Folks: we are on our own.  We have been very patient, tolerant - and yes - at 
> least a little angry.  Perhaps we start a process for setting up a list 
> moderator and finding ways of formally helping ourselves. We could propose 
> that we take the list away from VFO.  Alternatively as a variation - people 
> might prefer to start our own and we just unsubscribe from this one.   I 
> would prefer the cooperation of VFO - but we aren't getting that 
> co-operation.I also believe that an old-fashioned email list helps keep a 
> sense of quality through the conversations, and is also more useful to more 
> people than more contemporary social networking.
> 
> If people report problemxs with getting support questions answered, someone 
> who is prepared to fight the fight and has the time could tackle the VFO 
> corporatocracy to get some action.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Vaughan.
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook in Table View

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

My guess is that you are not virtualizing your messages.  You can toggle this 
on by using  Alt + Shift + V when focused on the inbox.  Alternatively, if you 
go to the WE control panel and open the apps menu, the arrow down to the 
Outlook Enhance app, you should be able to check if the Message Virtualization 
Enabled option is checked.  



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Debra Hill via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:12 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Outlook in Table View

Hi,

 

Is there a setting in which my Outlook messages should be changed?  I open the 
message and the messages are in a table mode with the many responses that are  
links. 

 

I have Windows 10/Outlook 2013/WE 9.54.

Thanks for any help and suggestions!

 

Deborah

 

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Re: w e 954 and wlm

[net bat via Talk]

check that the windows live mail app is installed and running. its the app that 
announces the status. not the live mail set files.

try reinstalling the wlm package. it includes both the set files and the app.
also when you have to reload w e while wlm is running the status will not be 
spoken until you reload wlm too.


-Original Message- 
From: William Vandervest via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: w e 954 and wlm

using win 10 windows live mail most recent version and w e 9.5.4, ever since 
updating to w e 954  w e doesn’t announce the status of threads e g open or 
closed.

is there a fix for this, or a setting i need to change?
thanks


timelor...@comcast.net

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Outlook in Table View

[Debra Hill via Talk]

Hi,

 

Is there a setting in which my Outlook messages should be changed?  I open
the message and the messages are in a table mode with the many responses
that are  links. 

 

I have Windows 10/Outlook 2013/WE 9.54.

Thanks for any help and suggestions!

 

Deborah

 

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w e 954 and wlm

[William Vandervest via Talk]

using win 10 windows live mail most recent version and w e 9.5.4, ever since 
updating to w e 954  w e doesn’t announce the status of threads e g open or 
closed. 
is there a fix for this, or a setting i need to change? 
thanks 


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Re: is there going to be a Zoomtext fusion 11

[Reeva Webb via Talk]

I just asked this to support and his answer was that he wasn't sure. I
wouldn't hold out hope as the big new feature of zt 11 is that it works
well with the shark. I have a feeling fusion will be put to death soon.

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Jan 26, 2017 1:06 PM, "Joseph Norton via Talk" <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I noticed ZoomText 11 is out.  Does that mean there'll be a zoomtext fusion
11?



Any thoughts?



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Re: Braille display stuff

[Robert Grimwood via Talk]

What support? Who are you kidding? I thought that staff were monitoring 
this list. Either they are not doing so (and I bet that they are), or 
they have been gagged. Shame on the lot of them.



Regards,

Robert Grimwood



On 1/26/2017 8:56 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Hi all.

I intend to use this message to also discuss list moderation and user support 
requirements.


Prompted by a list member's comment that Support did not know about the braille 
display freezing problem: I've browsed through the list archives.  If you do a 
simple search just on braille, there are 420 posts. More sophisticated searches 
can of course be carried out.   Topic themes vary, but there is discussion 
about braille displays freezing, and the need to restart Window-eyes to bring 
them back to life.

So: shame on support - one would hope that at the very least, as part of trying 
to be helpful, searching the company's own customer support resource would have 
informed the customer support person.

This morning, using my serial number so that it is a customer support request, 
I emailed Aaron and the Wesupport address.  Neither has bounced, but I do know 
that people have asked if Aaron is still around and I haven't seen a reply to 
that request.

Folks: we are on our own.  We have been very patient, tolerant - and yes - at 
least a little angry.  Perhaps we start a process for setting up a list 
moderator and finding ways of formally helping ourselves. We could propose that 
we take the list away from VFO.  Alternatively as a variation - people might 
prefer to start our own and we just unsubscribe from this one.   I would prefer 
the cooperation of VFO - but we aren't getting that co-operation.I also 
believe that an old-fashioned email list helps keep a sense of quality through 
the conversations, and is also more useful to more people than more 
contemporary social networking.

If people report problemxs with getting support questions answered, someone who 
is prepared to fight the fight and has the time could tackle the VFO 
corporatocracy to get some action.




Vaughan.



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Braille display stuff

[Vaughan Dodd via Talk]

Hi all.

I intend to use this message to also discuss list moderation and user support 
requirements.


Prompted by a list member's comment that Support did not know about the braille 
display freezing problem: I've browsed through the list archives.  If you do a 
simple search just on braille, there are 420 posts. More sophisticated searches 
can of course be carried out.   Topic themes vary, but there is discussion 
about braille displays freezing, and the need to restart Window-eyes to bring 
them back to life.

So: shame on support - one would hope that at the very least, as part of trying 
to be helpful, searching the company's own customer support resource would have 
informed the customer support person.

This morning, using my serial number so that it is a customer support request, 
I emailed Aaron and the Wesupport address.  Neither has bounced, but I do know 
that people have asked if Aaron is still around and I haven't seen a reply to 
that request.

Folks: we are on our own.  We have been very patient, tolerant - and yes - at 
least a little angry.  Perhaps we start a process for setting up a list 
moderator and finding ways of formally helping ourselves. We could propose that 
we take the list away from VFO.  Alternatively as a variation - people might 
prefer to start our own and we just unsubscribe from this one.   I would prefer 
the cooperation of VFO - but we aren't getting that co-operation.I also 
believe that an old-fashioned email list helps keep a sense of quality through 
the conversations, and is also more useful to more people than more 
contemporary social networking.

If people report problemxs with getting support questions answered, someone who 
is prepared to fight the fight and has the time could tackle the VFO 
corporatocracy to get some action.




Vaughan.



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is there going to be a Zoomtext fusion 11

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

I noticed ZoomText 11 is out.  Does that mean there'll be a zoomtext fusion
11?

 

Any thoughts?

 

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Re: Returning to list - what's going on with GW and AISquared

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there!

Well as I stated in an earlier message, I talked to someone there and 
they told me they were still selling SMAs and that was just a week and a 
half ago.  Don't think they stopped selling them between then and 
now.  Give them a call at, (260) 489-3671 and follow the prompts 
to sales. Good Luck And Have A Good 1! de


.


On 25-Jan-17 16:42, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote:

I think I am out of SMA counts!  I want to renew it, but I am NOT encouraged
or as enthusiastic as I should be with respect to Window-Eyes!  May be I'll
watch the space for another year if I have one to spare?

For more than 20 years, Window-Eyes has kept me in business!  When my
company was a Moneygram agent, Marc helped to CONFIGURE the Java Bridge
thingy which then enabled me to use Moneygram's inaccessible app even though
the silly app was NOT COMPLETELY accessible from a blindness perspective.
Even their blind employee who used the other screen reader COULD NOT help
me, but Marc, now gone, WAVED THE MAGIC WAND and voilá, it was business as
usual.

I had a POS app no longer updated by its original developer for which Mr.
Clower helped to write scripts!

Although I can't find the plugs for whatever reason I can't fathom
presently, I still have the external speech synthesizer Speak-Out!  If I
ever find its plugs, I'd like to take it for a test drive still with
Window-Eyes!  It worked wonders with Vocal-Eyes, who remembers that one?  In
my ancient and modern DOS box that also has an installation of
Windows-For-Workgroups 3.11, Sounding Board is still CRANKING OUT speech.
See how far I have come with GW Micro?  I'm sure there are folks whose
mileages are better than mine, but, it was GW Micro's Vocal-Eyes that
finally allowed me to vegetate towards learning to use a computer.

Having said the foregoing, where's WordStar?  Where's WindowBridge?  Where's
Artic?  And where's ASAW?

So many swamps have been drained overtime; I sure hope that CLIMATE CHANGE
won't drain this one for just a while yet!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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Re: does this certificate problem affect anything before 9.53

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

it effects Window-Eyes v9.5 Build numbers 9.5.1 and 9.5.3

-Original Message- 
From: Lee Hodgson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:13 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: does this certificate problem affect anything before 9.53

Hi
I wondered, if I am using an older version of we 9.4 with windows 7,
will my copy still be ok, seem to remember they said the issue was
with 9.51 and above, but can someone confirm please thanks.
smiles.
Lee, Emily my guiding furry snowflake and Chester and Simba the feline 
fellas.


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Re: Returning to list - what's going on with GW and AISquared

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

I'm also hoping that Window-eyes will be able to support the soon to be 
released Windows 10 creative update?


-Original Message- 
From: Brenda via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:05 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Returning to list - what's going on with GW and AISquared

Hey Mike and Dave, and anyone else...


Thanks for the quick replies.  This is horrible - Window eyes might be
no more?  I searched January list archieves and found nothing so far.
It seems the market having two quality screen readers would be
difficult, just wish it was JAWS leaving.


I think I will have to learn to use NVDA.


I did update to 9.5.4 on my 10 laptop and win 7 machine. Hopefully they
will have a disk available for anyone who doesn't get updated in time or
for folks that purchase new computers.


I wonder if W-e is no more if users will be given JAWS subscriptions.  I
prefer window eyes, and I just recently purchased another SMA.Everybody
gone - Jeremy Curry too?  this is really sad and depressing - what a way
to start the year.


Thanks,

brenda

On 1/25/2017 11:52 AM, Mike Rogers wrote:
Both readers are under Freedom.  Much talk of W.E. going out, but nothing 
definite.  Many of the I-A folks have left the company and no answers.  If 
you have W.E. 9.5.3, best update to 4, as it's necessary to keep working 
after Jan. 26.




www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:46:16 -0500
Brenda via Talk  wrote:


Hello List

I've been out and about, and had put my subscription in vacation mode. 
since the list format has changed, I just signed up as a new user, same 
email address but different user name.  Not sure if this was the right 
way to do things, but didn't know what else to do.


Then today I called tech support for Window Eyes and was connected to 
florida and found out Window Eyes (GW-Micro, AI Squared) is now part of 
VFO.


Kind of sad to see the changes.  It was nice dealing directly with The 
folks at GW who knew all about Window Eyes.  Feels weird that W-E and 
Jaws are under the same ownership umbrella.


Can someone catch me up on recent happenings?

Thanks
Brenda
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Re: extended dictionary about to quit

[David via Talk]

Neville,
and all other users of the Extended Dictionary.

The Capture Spoken Phrases app, is part of the Extended Dictionary 
package. Yet it is NOT an essential part of the package. As a matter of 
fact, the Extended Dictionary itself, could well run without this part 
being operative.

As has been the case since the very first release of the package, every 
version has its expiration date. And please, I have dealt with that part 
of it a number of times before. This is the way the Extended Dictionary 
has been developed, and will not be changed. So please abstain from 
further arguing on the matter.

Unfortunately, a bug has sneaked into the package release of version 
0.69.5 - the latest version - which all current users will be running. 
The Capture Spoken Phrases app, has got a too short expiration date 
stamp. I will attempt to have a fix for this within this weekend, at the 
latest very early next week. I have rechecked the case prior to writing 
this, and can confirm that the Extended Dictionary itself, will still 
work for a good long time. In other words, should your Capture Spoken 
Phrases app stop working, due to expiration, it only means that this 
extra feature of the package will be unavailable.
For your information, this is the app that by default will be invoked, 
when hitting Alt-Insert-C, and which will let you see the exact phrase 
sent to the speech synthesizer.

To reassure you all, the extended Dictiona in all its main 
functionality, will still be working for a considerable time. I do 
appologize for the bug of the Capture Spoken Phrase app, and will 
attempt a quick remedy. You will all be notified when the fix is 
available for download. Should you want it faster, contact me off-list, 
and I will send you the updated file.

For your info, if the extended Dictionary app itself was about to 
expire, you would have received a dedicated message, clearly stating 
that it is the Extended Dictionary that is closing in on expiration. In 
this case, the message you get, is that it concerns the Capture spoken 
Phrases.

Neville, thanks for pointing out the bug. May I ask that people who 
experience clear bugs in the package, please will contact me directly.

My sincere apologies for any inconveniences caused.

David
(Author of the
Extended Dictionary for Window-eyes.)
 trailerda...@hotmail.com


On 1/26/2017 10:42 AM, Neville via Talk wrote:
 > Hi,
 > After starting WE, a message is displayed, "Important message from 
Capture spoken phrases, 5 days left of your licence".
 >
 > This simply means that the extended dictionary app has just 5 days 
before it quits.
 >
 > Any other extended dictionary users suffering from the same prolem.
 >
 > I just hope the author remedies the problem before the primary 
dictionary quits.
 >
 > Neville.
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extended dictionary about to quit

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
After starting WE, a message is displayed, "Important message from 
Capture spoken phrases, 5 days left of your licence".


This simply means that the extended dictionary app has just 5 days 
before it quits.


Any other extended dictionary users suffering from the same prolem.

I just hope the author remedies the problem before the primary 
dictionary quits.


Neville.

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Re: A question about internet meeting platforms

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Hi, can you e-mail me off list with more info?

nicksara...@msn.com

On 1/25/2017 5:37 PM, Helen Murphy via Talk wrote:
> THERE WILL BE A BAZAAR AT THE SELIS MANOR FOR THE BLIND AT 135 W 23ST NY 
> 10011 , ON FEB 4TH 2017 TIME 11 AM TO 5 PM
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 4:57 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Kenneth,
>
> Main Menu produced by ACB Radio has a podcast from last year's Ignite 
> Conference about accessibility in Share Point, Microsoft's collaboration 
> software.
> The podcast is in three parts, and you can search for the word ignite on the 
> following page to find the third part, dated October 21, 2016, where Share 
> Point is discussed:
>
> http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/rss.php
>
> hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kenneth Son via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: A question about internet meeting platforms
>
> Hello to the list.
>
> Does anyone know if the Citrics go to meeting system is accessable with
> Window Eyes?
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Citrics go to meeting a part of
> microsoft or is it a totally different company?
>
> I just wondered if in the last yer with this new release of the citrics
> go to meeting if Accessability has been put in the program for attendees
> and presenters.
>
> Kenneth Son.
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