Windows 10 release

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Greetings to the list.

Has this creators addition

 of win 10 been released?

If so I want to call in and get a new coppy of the latest update of 
Window Eyes.


Kenneth Son.


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Re: Window-eyes wake up call!

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello List.

Reluctently, the jaws program was downloaded and installed. I thought 
how sad to see Window Eys possibly going away.


One feature in the window eyes and Jaws programs is an add on for each 
program that inables anyone to move the mouse to a certain place on the 
screen and set it as a point for clicking a mouse or reading text.


The main reasons for this is for using programs where the tab keys or 
aro keys can not be used to move around the screen.


Another thing that Window Eyes and Jaws has is a way to use the num pad 
to move the mouse any amount of piccels in any direction, left, rite, 
up, or down.


I would very much like to see the NVDA program have a full review curser 
for moving by piccel amounts determened in some kind of setting. I would 
also like to see NVDA have some kind of a add on that would allow a 
person to set points on the screen and move the mouse to that point and 
this could click the mouse single or double click left or rite and have 
other features added in there as well. This feature could be limitless.


If NVDa could do this, they would blow all of these other screen readers 
out of the water and everyone could have a reduced price screen reader 
to do there work.


Now I might add if NVDA has some of this already I am unaware of this.

Isn't there ways to build scripts so NVDA can work with some of the more 
difficult programs?


Personally, I wish I could see NVDA become the voice over for Windows 
with all the extra features added in I mentioned above.


Kenneth Son.


On 3/19/2017 15:33, Steve Nutt via Talk wrote:

Hi,

This will never happen, because Window-Eyes assets are owned by VFO.

All the best

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brandon Miller via Talk
Sent: 17 March 2017 05:39
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Window-eyes wake up call!

Window-eyes developers, have you considered partnering with Nv Access?
At this point, I mean all things considered, why not? From what I heard from
the Nv Access personnel at CSUN, they seem like a nice enough,
knowledgeable, approachable group, I mean have lines of discussion even so
much as been opened up? If not, why not? Has anybody here been able to have
a look at the NVDA training material? From what I've heard, it's not very,
quote unquote, basic, at all. Quite on the contrary! I hear it's rather
comprehensive, and pretty well put together to boot! I think it'd be a real
shame to see all that Gw Micro has worked for and accomplished over the
years to end up being basically for nothing. Would you not agree that would
be a sad thing? One thing that I think could work out to be a mutually
beneficial solution could be for the Window-eyes developers to partner with
the Nv Access group. I mean if Window-eyes is already free for anybody with
Microsoft Office 2010 or later, then perhaps some of the revenue given by
Microsoft per the terms of that agreement could be contributed to the Nv
Access group in return for round table dialog discussions between the
Window-eyes developers and the Nv Access group on how to best move
accessibility forward. Ya know? Thoughts?

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Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

Speaking of holding VFO accountable,

Where is any information of the update of Window Eyes for the new 
release of Windows 10 soon to be released?


I have not seen this as of yet.

I want to get a new computer in April but if I don't know for sure if 
Window Eyes works with it, I will have to hold on to this windows 8 
computer until I hear of any release of a version that will work with 
this new update of Windows 10 Creator adition.


If Window Eyes is truly dead, I wish VFO would come out with an upgrade 
plan to Jaws so I can get on with it.


Kenneth Son.



On 3/16/2017 19:33, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

To be fair, the disparity between the price of a screen reader and the
price of a desk top has everything to do with supply and demand.  Fewer
consumers are purchasing desk tops.  Until most screen reader users
replace their screen readers with Iphone-like products, the price of a
screen reader will likely not decrease much.

On 3/16/2017 5:35 PM, Evan Reese via Talk wrote:

Hmmm, how about a screenreader company that charges more for their
product than a decent desktop these days? Some people might call that
being "penalized" simply to access their PC, something any sighted
person can do right out of the box.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:02 PM
To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Yes.  Somebody said about something:  "The only way it's hard is if you
make
it hard".  Well, it seems to me that that is quight subjective.  He is
speaking from his own experience.  Those of us who don't rush to get every
little new thing don't think that way.  I don't see why we should be
penalized because we don't want a touch screen or whatever the newest thing
is.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:11 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Reeva Webb
Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I understand that.  And that is great, for you.  I just can't deal with
touch screens.  Give me buttons to push.  As I said in an earlier note,
the same solution isn't for everyone.  You guys and your i whatevers
think they solve the world's access problems.  Perhaps for some they do.
  I can't figure out how to run my IPod.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Russ Kiehne
via Talk wrote:


In my case, my ipad mini 4 has taken the place of my victor reader
stream first generation, Booksense standard and plextalk pocket.  It
has more volume, better battery life and better sound.  It does
everything they do and a lot more.

-Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had
in the
past week. We're getting what we wanted for years. We can go into a
electronics store and buy a iphone, a android phone, a mac, a chromebook
and soon windows computers  with accessibility out of the box. You don't
have to spend extra money unless you want to.  While what is happening
with
zt fusion, something I spent my own money to buy makes me mad. I'm
seriously considering just going fully with mainstream products. I find
myself using my android devices more and pulling out my laptop less.


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Mar 16, 2017 1:18 AM, "Dennis Long via Talk"

wrote:

I agree with you completely!

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:12 PM
To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Problem is you i phone users think everyone can use one and can use a
touch
screen.  They are not for everyone.  I think blind folks fall into that
worse than any group.  if it works for me, it is great for everyone
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote:


  I really think that in the very near future "adaptive" technology will
  become a thing of the past. We aren't there yet, but more and more
  things are becoming voice activated, and voice commanded. The market
  for such special items as Window-eyes and Jaws is waining. Heck, the I
  phone out of the box gives the blind user access to GPS, internet
  searches, txt messageing, etc, without the need of an expensive piece
  of software that at best in moderately useable. It's just a matter of

time.

  -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
  Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:05 PM
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  Subject: Failure to hold VFO to account

  Greetings all.

  I've just 

Re: latest Win 10 insider build

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.

It is mentioned in this post about a windows power shell.

How would one go about changing this back to the command prompt?

I do use programs that require the command prompt and I use bat files to 
execute these programs. the programs  do drop to the command prompt and 
run basically what you would call running under dos in some of the older 
Windows systems.


I run programs 2 at a time dsd plus and fmp. These programs are software 
defind radio programs that run from the command prompt.


Kenneth Son.



On 2/10/2017 11:46, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



Is this inside build and the "creators" update for developers and/or 
programmers only?


Peace.
Linette



On 2/10/2017 5:10 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:

Hi:

I am running WE with Windows 10 Insider Preview build 15025.  So far,
nothing seems to be terribly out of place.

I did have to uninstall WE before the update would proceed, but, 
Narrator
talked me through it.  Currently, though, I'm using a fresh install 
of this

build.

There are a few changes relating to the way you remove programs, but, 
even

then, you can find the way you were used to before.  If you use command
prompt, it has been replaced by Windows Power Shell by default, but, 
you can
get the old behavior back.  And, you can always type "cmd" at the run 
dialog

and get the command prompt.

As far as I can tell, though, there don't seem to be any show 
stoppers, so

far.


One great thing they've done with this preview build and the one 
before is

that they've enabled sound support when booting the install media.  This
means you can install a fresh copy of Windows 10 without sighted 
assistance,

providing you can boot to your DVD or USB stick.

I recently did a podcast on coolblindtech.com on this, and, if all goes
well, plan to do an improved version when the actual "Creators" 
update comes

out in April.



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Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: latest Win 10 insider build

Is anyone running WE with the latest Windows Insider program build?  
If so

any issues relative to WE working with it?
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Window Eyes and Talking communities meeting

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.

In doing a bunch of research, I have found that the only accessable 
video and audio online meeting web meeting site is the Talking 
communities web meeting site.


So if anyone wants to host some kind of meeting over the internet it 
looks like it's talking communities.


I wonder if they are even still in business?

I ask this because I went to the Talking Communities web site and half 
the links there are broken links.


Tried calling them on the phone number listed in that page and it was 
busy for about 4 or 5 hours.


Something seems a little out of line.

If this Tjalking communities is out of business there goes any 
accessable web meeting site we can use with Window Eyes.


Kenneth Son.


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A question about internet meeting platforms

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.

Does anyone know if the Citrics go to meeting system is accessable with 
Window Eyes?


Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Citrics go to meeting a part of 
microsoft or is it a totally different company?


I just wondered if in the last yer with this new release of the citrics 
go to meeting if Accessability has been put in the program for attendees 
and presenters.


Kenneth Son.

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adobe accrobat pro

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.
Can Window eyes be used to edit doccuments in this Adobe Acrobat Reader pro?
I think the program is accrobat reader pro and can be used on the 
desktop and can be used to edit stuff in the cloud.

Kenneth son.



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Microsoft access 2016

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.
The question is about microsoft access 2016 and accessibility.
Does Window Eyes have any set files or scripts to make it work with 
Access 2016?
I could not seem to do anything with the access program with menus or 
adding records.
Window Eyes just seem to lock up after a while in the Microsoft access 
2016 program.

With all this talk of accessibility I wonder why Access is stil unusable?
Kenneth Son.

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Mapping custom fields in outlook 2016

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.

This is a little on the urgent side as I need to import contacts into 
Outlook 2016 from another csv file.


This csv file is from the Thunderbird addressbook and I need to line up 
the right fields so the names and email addresses will import properly.


In the import process, how do I map the custom fields using Window Eyes?

I can not seem to find a way to set the fields or map the fields 
correctly when attempting to set up the custom fields.


Thank you.

Kenneth Son.


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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good.

Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it puts 
the other screen reader into the useless category.


That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is for 
the Apple products.


Probably that's how it should be any way.

The possibility of Window Eyes being phased out just makes my heart sick.

Having to change over to something else andlearn all those commands and 
other things just seems a little to much of a chalange at this age.


Something is just a little funny about this whole thing.

Kenneth Son.


On 10/15/2016 06:46, John Farley via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facility on their web
site.

It was interesting to find that in their list of products that they will
take note of Window-Eyes does not exist!
I had to use JAWS and then tell them I was talking about Window-Eyes in my
comments.



Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:51 PM
To: darren harris; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

No official word yet.  If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays
around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you expect
the same type of customer service and great products as you did when ai
squared was around. This will let them know you care about the product
and that you are a loyal user.




On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:

Hi all,

Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is wineyes going to be
fazed out?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
To: bj colt via Talk
Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Hello John,

I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are developing
both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.



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Re: Contacting VFO Regarding Window-Eyes

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

I don't think any comments sent to the vfo people will do much good.

Personally,I hope Microsoft Narater becomes so perfected that it puts 
the other screen reader into the useless category.


That would make Narrater the main screen reader just as Voiceover is for 
the Apple products.


Probably that's how it should be any way.

The possibility of Window Eyes being phased out just makes my heart sick.

Having to change over to something else andlearn all those commands and 
other things just seems a little to much of a chalange at this age.


Something is just a little funny about this whole thing.

Kenneth Son.



On 10/15/2016 06:46, John Farley via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

I have now sent a note to VFO via their contact us facility on their web
site.

It was interesting to find that in their list of products that they will
take note of Window-Eyes does not exist!
I had to use JAWS and then tell them I was talking about Window-Eyes in my
comments.



Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



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[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:51 PM
To: darren harris; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

No official word yet.  If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays
around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you expect
the same type of customer service and great products as you did when ai
squared was around. This will let them know you care about the product
and that you are a loyal user.




On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:

Hi all,

Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is wineyes going to be
fazed out?

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
To: bj colt via Talk
Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Hello John,

I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are developing
both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.



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Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

Start a petition and send it to this company stating you do not want to 
see Window Eyes phased out.


Kenneth Son.



On 10/14/2016 18:51, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
No official word yet.  If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays 
around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you 
expect the same type of customer service and great products as you did 
when ai squared was around. This will let them know you care about the 
product and that you are a loyal user.





On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:

Hi all,

Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is wineyes going 
to be

fazed out?

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On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
To: bj colt via Talk
Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes

Hello John,

I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are developing
both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.




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contacts in outlook 2016

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

Thank you for all the responces to the outlook 2016 questions.

I think I am doing ok now but I am having issues with adding contacts.

As far as adding contacts I am abel to add the common things like the 
name and addresses for email and all the work and home and other phones 
and or addresse for mailing addresses but there are a bunch of hidden 
fields that you can fill in that I just can't get to.


The birthday field I can add birthdays but it is a little tricky but 
there are fields for aniversury and other field names for spouses name 
and childrens names and there is one for a mailing address for a po box 
and just a number of other hidden fields you can put in the contacts 
that I just can't get to.


Does any one have any ideas how to get window eyes to read these other 
fields?


I can't seem to find a tab any where when editing a contact that lets me 
go to other sections or extra fields for filling in all the information.


Kenneth Son.


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Out look 2016

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.

Details.

Windows 8 with WE 9.1.

I reinstalled the office 2016 programs and in outlook I can now read the 
list of messages but I still can't get to the list of mail folders.


All I see when I tab is 2 buttons unread and all and a search box but no 
list of folders.


What do I have to do to get the list of folders to show up on the screen.

Tabbing and shift tabbing just does not get me to the list of folders.

I am using an imap account if that makes any differents.

Help.

Kenneth son.


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Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will Surprise You!

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Greetings list.
Yes Caution would be the word I would use for this.
I really don't believe Narrator is the brand new fantastic screen reader 
replacement for JFW or Window Eyes.
I don't believe Narrator has a true review cursor such as JFW or Window 
Eyes does have and there are just some programs like it or not that you 
have to make use of Mouse cursors and review cursors to get to where you 
wish to be on the screen to activate parts of the program you just can 
not tab or arrow to.
This big thing of Narrator having more access or giving us more access 
to things looks good on the surface but with no scripting or some kind 
of set files to make difficult programs with nonstandard controls 
workable, Narrator is basically useless except just for the basic uses 
of the computer.

Kenneth Son.

On 8/10/2016 16:10, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Thanks for the post.

I do think we should be cautious about this.  Apart from the fact that the guy 
is a teacher - teacher of what and of whom - his credentials are not clearly 
identified.  So his views are just as good or just as bad as any one elses.

Many of us use apps not included in his discussion - excel, outlook, other mail 
and spreadsheet applications and so on.  Whilst it is clear that the discussion 
is about Windows 10 anniversary, and as such is narrow in context, it is far 
from complete.

The bias is clear: if it is free - it must be better, and he has only ever used 
JFW of the paid screen readers.
Microsoft's commitment to accessibility is questonable.  Yes: Narrator has made 
improvements which are long overdue, and there are knowledgeable blind people 
commiting to Narrator.  But - no braille, no ability to configure it for 
specific apps, and so many other shortcomings which Window-Eyes and JFW have 
attempted to resolve over the years.



The discussion is an important one, as the industry is in a state of change.  
But: we should just treat the comments for what they are - someone's legitimate 
opinion.


Vaughan.



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Subject: Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The 
Results Will Surprise You!

No mention of Window-eyes, eh? tisk tisk.
On 8/10/2016 9:38 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

The following article came from
https://www.coolblindtech.com/ranking-screen-readers-in-windows10-anni
versary-update-the-results-will-surprise-you/

He seemed to leave out Window Eyes?

Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will 
Surprise You!

James Oates


On  August 9, 2016

In this article, I will attempt to review and rank three of the most
popular current screen readers that are available at this time. The three 
screen readers were tested on the most recent version of Windows 10 anniversary 
update. This is important because one of the screen readers is Microsoft’s most 
recently updated Narrator.
Although ranking the screen readers might prove to be quite controversial, I 
think it can also open up a real discussion on which screen readers are most 
accessible, and even the question of accessibility can sometimes be up for 
debate. I do realize that accessibility is determined by personal needs and 
preferences, so I will attempt to define the criteria I used for accessibility 
in this review.

What Is Accessibility?

Quite simply, I determined that accessibility is the ability to access that 
which needs to be accessed. Also, I take points off accessibility for the 
screen readers that make it difficult to access material by being dysfunctional 
or by making it very difficult to figure out which keystrokes need to be used 
with the material. Some screen readers make you use ridiculous key combinations 
to activate website elements or functions within applications. So without 
further ado, here are the rankings!

Number One: Microsoft Narrator!

It took me about a day to get used to the screen reader, but once I
did, I realized what a powerful tool Microsoft had created and that
the company was finally serious about supporting a built-in screen
reader for the blind. In fact, the only thing I could find wrong with
the screen reader was that it did not work with my braille display. I am 
currently working with Microsoft and HIMS to see if this problem can be 
resolved. Besides that one issue, the screen reader was fully accessible on all 

A question about Teemviewer remote software

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Greetings.
I have a question about the teem viewer software and remoting into other 
computers.
Would I be able to install Window Eyes on the remote computer and once 
logged into the remote computer, bring up window eyes on that system and 
use the remote pc?
Also, if I am asked to join a meeting using teem viewer, once logged in, 
would I be able to access controls on the teem viewer screen to send 
chats or set the audio and or just plain be able to exit the program?

Thank you so much.
Kenneth Son.

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Re: Microsoft Go To Webinar

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello Marc.
Regarding the current subject, would it be possible to make mouse 
hotspots for the different parts of the screen one would need to access?
I guess you would have to make several hotspots for not only the top 
level of the program but you would have to make hotspots for choices 
within different parts of the screen.
I tried using some kind of web interface by clicking on some webinar 
links and I was not able to get around the web interface.
If I could get the desktop version I wouldn't mind playing around with 
it to see what I can get it to do but I would have to find a friend or 
someone who is familiar with the Webinar program to point me in the 
right directions for setting up hotspots if hotspots are even possible 
to set up.
I don't know why more main stream businesses seem to reject the talking 
communities client but you hardly ever hear of this easily accessable 
program being used.

Talking communities seems to have a nice interface for all to use.

Thank you for your help.
Kenneth Son.



On 4/21/2016 19:04, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Kenneth,
The desktop versions of GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar by Citrix have never had 
good keyboard support and I don't think that has changed recently.  This makes 
both tools very difficult or impossible to use with a screen reader. These 
limitations include controlling the microphone, using chat or the attendees 
list. Wish I had better news to report.
Regards,
Marc

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wrote:


Hello.
Is Window Eyes able to work now with any version of the Webinar program
Go to Webinar any better than it has in the last few months?
I just wondered if there is any improvements with that interface.
Now I have to use the iphone app to join any webinars but I wish I could
use the desktop version.
Kenneth Son.

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Microsoft Go To Webinar

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello.
Is Window Eyes able to work now with any version of the Webinar program 
Go to Webinar any better than it has in the last few months?

I just wondered if there is any improvements with that interface.
Now I have to use the iphone app to join any webinars but I wish I could 
use the desktop version.

Kenneth Son.

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Free uTube to MP3 converter

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.
The current version of the youtube to mp3 converter works enough to 
download and convert files.
What about the free youtube converter that converts to video files does 
that have the same layout as the mp3 converter?

Kenneth Son.


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Attention Office 365

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello List.
I will be getting the office 365 here in about 2 weeks.
Does Window Eyes 9.3 work with the office 2016 Outlook program?
If not, how do I get it to work?
Some one had said turn messages by group off and I do know how to do that.
Besides that little problem will I be able to use the 2016 version of 
Outlook?

Thank you.
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A qustion about log in

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list once again.
In windows 8 the following command gets you to a screen so you can turn 
off the log in screens at start up.


netplwiz

Does this same command work in Windows 10?
If not how do you turn off the log in screen at startup?
Kenneth Son.

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Re: Windows10 Logon Dialog Painfully Slow

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello.
I want to add to this question how does one turn off the log in period 
on Windows 10 so you don't have to worry about it?

Is there any way to do this?
Kenneth Son.

On 12/23/2015 04:58, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Running a Dell Optiplex I7 Windows Pro and WE 9.3.1:
The system boots up fast, a few seconds, but the logon window starts reading
what sounds like the WindowEyes Control Panel dialog, or something akin to
that, and then I have no control for several seconds more. When tabbing
finally starts to work typing, microsoft voice I think, response to tabbing
or typing takes several seconds between pressing a key and a vocal response.
Is there some way to improve the responsiveness of this logon dialog?
It was slow in Windows 8.1 with WE 8.x but is worse in Windows10 with WE
9.3.1.
Rick USA

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a question how do I get rid of the windows 10 install tool tip

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.
How do I remove the windows 10 install tool tip from my windows 8.1 
computer so I don't have to keep hearing Window Eyes say windows 10 tool 
tip?

It is getting on my nerves.
Kenneth Son.

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A question about music players

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.
Winamp seems to be giving me trouble on windows 8.1 and I want to look 
for a different player.
I am looking for some kind of player that has an equalizer built into it 
that we can use with scrennreaders.

Does anyone know of such a program.
I don't like flat audio.
I am spoiled with these winamp plug ins and want a good solid program 
that has some kind of plugin or eq built into the music software.

Help please.
Kenneth Son.

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A question about spam and black list program

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello List.
I am wanting to get a program that blocks some emails and will send out 
some kind of bounce message.
I have tried a program called Mail Washer but it is not accessible with 
Window Eyes.

One of those programs that used to be accessible but is no longer working.
Does anyone know of a program like this that works with Window Eyes?
Kenneth Son.

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A question about spam and black list programs

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello List.
I am wanting to get a program that blocks some emails and will send out 
some kind of bounce message.
I have tried a program called Mail Washer but it is not accessible with 
Window Eyes.

One of those programs that used to be accessible but is no longer working.
Does anyone know of a program like this that works with Window Eyes?
Kenneth Son.
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Re: we 9.2, very unresponsive

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello list.
I have noticed that Window Eyes does become so slow on large web pages 
that it makes it a chore to get on those pages.

Here at this end I am also worried if the problem will ever be fixed.
There seems to be no answers whatsoever.

Kenneth Son.

On 11/25/2015 22:52, via Talk wrote:

I agree that having only 4 GB of Memory is very little, and yet, I see
systems for sale at Costco, and other On Line Dealers, getting sold with
only 4 GB of memory.

These are your $350 to $500 machines, and when I see them, I wonder how
quick they would be with so little memory.

I am using 6 GB of memory on this machine, and it too is too often very
slow when on web sites like Ebay and Youtube.

WE 9.X has been a disappointment.  If I would have paid the $250 for a
new Computer monitor, and it was said to be a fast monitor, but on my
system it was not, I would have returned the monitor to the store where
it was purchased.   Something I could not do after forking out $200 for
9.1, and then finding it to be a Big Disappointment.  Then a few months
later, forking out another $50 to upgrade to 9.2, only to find 9.2 was a
minor improvement, but 9.2 still crashes, locks up, goes quiet far too
often, especially if I am on the Web, or am typing too fast within a
word processor such as MS Word 2010, or an Email program like Becky.

And the longer I have the system ON, the funkier the system gets.  I
suspect something is messing up memory in some way.  Perhaps a program
using what ever memory it needs, and then when that program is closed,
the system is not given back all of the memory first used by the first
program, so there is less memory for the second program to operate.

I am just guessing here.  If this is a memory management issue, then I
doubt if this is a WE problem, unless it is WE that is causing the
problem with WE not giving back the memory it has used.

Again, I know just enough to be dangerously guessing.

Some here swear they have no problems what so ever.  I do not know what
is different about their systems, than mine, but apparently there are some
differences that  are important.

have heard nothing from A I Squared.  have called them probably four or
five times.

They don't have any answers.  I get it, sometimes there just isn't an
answer.

While I would love to walk out and purchase a brand new system, say one
with 16 GB of RAM, and one of those I7 Chips under its hood.It won't
be this Christmas, or any time shortly after the new year.

After this long of time, I was hoping that A I Squared might have made
some correlations, as I know I am not the only person with a System WE
9.2 does not like.  When I worked in Tech Support, we would keep track
of hardware and Windows configurations if the software we were
supporting was having some troubles on some systems out there in the
real world.

I recall one time, out CD discs would not be read by a number of
customers systems.  And yet, loads of other customers had no issues what
so ever.  We started looking at the manufacturer, and model of the CD
drives on the systems that would not read our discs.  As it turned out,
this one model of CD drive would not read our discs.  No one ever knew
why, but when we had a customer call in, telling us our disc would not
read, we could easily look to see the model and manufacture of the CD
drive, and sure enough, if the customer had that particular drive, we
had a solution to make that drive work.  But until we started keeping
track of hardware and software used on machines that refused to read our
discs, we had no idea why, or how to give the customer a solution.

I was hoping, and am still hoping for something like this from A I
Squared.   So far they have my $250 and all is too quiet.








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A question on word press access

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello List.
Does anyone with the Window Eyes program do any web development with 
Word Press?

How is the access to the visual editer and its menus with Window Eyes?
Is the word press admin panel usable with Window Eyes?
Kenneth Son.

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access to time clock software

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.
Someone had mentioned in some post earlier about access to some time 
clock software.
One poster said that the time clock software they wanted to use did not 
have any keyboard commands to get into the interface for reviewing time 
cards or time sheets.
I wonder if and when Window Eyes has touch screen support if some of 
these difficult programs could be used with the touch screen feature?
There does not seem to be much talk of Window Eyes supporting any kind 
of touch screen and wonder what the problem may be.
It seems to me that some of these programs talked about could be 
accessed by some kind of touch screen support.

If there are any answers out there I would love to hear some input.
Here as of late it looks like more and more of these business programs 
like the time keeping software and even pay role software are becoming 
more difficult to use with the screen readers.

I can't help but feel just a little discouraged right now.
We need touch screen support.
Kenneth Son.

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Re: Sudden Loss Of Speech

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello to the list.
With all this sudden loss of speech I am afraid to upgrad to WE 9.2 and 
by the way it happens often I loose speech with the 9.1 Window Eyes.
When there is a fix for this problem is the purchase of the fixed update 
going to cost as well? I want to make sure this is truly fixed and 
speech does not go away before paying for any updates.

Kenneth Son.

On 9/26/2015 14:05, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

It happens to me often on my new windows 10 Del Lap Top with WE 9.2. ctrl-alt-W 
usually brings it back but sometimes I have to wait a minute or two before the 
speech actually returns.

  


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Re: accessible soft phone

[Kenneth Son via Talk]

Hello.
There is a pbx software called 3cx. Is this usable with Window-Eyes?
Has anyone on the list ever used 3cx?
Kenneth Son.


On 5/26/2015 21:10, via Talk wrote:

I do have a pbx,  called freeswitch and a gui on top called fusionpbx,
but its on linux, so a bit off topic.  Freeswitch will install and work
on windows and its very configurable, but to take full advantage, you
need to do programming.  But fusionpbx is not bad at all.

Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


If you're looking for a good PBX system that is totally configurable
with Window-Eyes accessibility etc. check out Incredible PBX.

If you do a search for Nirdvittles on Google, you'll find a ton of stuff.

I'm always here and willing to help as well off list.

clgillan...@gmail.com

You'll probably want to install PBX in a Flash Purple if you do this.
Green might work, but I'd frankly stick with Purple.  Whatever you do,
don't get brown, unless you're ready to do a lot of SSH manual
configurating.

Chris.

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From: via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: Samuel Wilkins sound...@spwnet.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion
List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: accessible soft phone



How would you define a switchboard service?  Nowadays, most companies
use auto attendants and transfer the calls from there.

Samuel Wilkins via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


Can they be used for switchboard systems, or is that a different type
of software?  I only ask this because I am considering working in
customer services, and I would need a switchboard system that would
work with Window-Eyes.

On 26/05/2015 14:11, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

It is software that turns your computer into a telephone using a

VOIP  service.

You can receive both incoming and outgoing calls.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk 

[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
On  Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:40 AM
To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: accessible soft phone

Okay, sorry, but what is a soft phone?  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 3:34 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: accessible soft phone

Can you provide a link to download this thang?  I missed this

thread,  and I

am desperetly! looking for a good accessible softphone.  Express

Talk  is

wonderful, except that there is way! too much delay, even

after  totally

doing one what the manual says to do to configure my network and
firewall.

X-Lite/Bria... Ehh, I'm on NDA, so I can't go into much, but I'm on the
beta, and we'll just say without any specifics that there are

some  issues.

Chris.

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To: Chris Grabowski cgrabow...@aisquared.com; Window-Eyes 

Discussion

List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: accessible soft phone



fsclient was the one I recomended.

Chris Grabowski via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


Hi,
A couple months ago there  were some emails about accessible

soft  phones,

can someone remind me of the soft phones?

Thanks,
Chris


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