Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread peter Chin via Talk 

Hello Listers,

Where can I find the check box to stop Fire Fox updating? I looked 
everywhere but couldn't find it.


Thanks in advance.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

With Window-Eyes you can use Firefox up through version 55.03, but not 56.0.
NVDA and JAWS should work fine with these newer Firefox versions.
I don't know whether it would be productive to put a bug report into the
Firefox bug reporting system about Window-Eyes support or not.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Sky Mundell via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:15 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

You can tell it not to update. I think if the new versions of Firefox isn't
working with Window-Eyes, it is a clear sign that Window-eyes is failing
with the new updates. I use JAWS and NVDA and both work fine with the new
updates because both of these products are being updated.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:41 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Butch Bussen; mattc...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

This is not good.  I  still use window-eyes and fire fox.  Wonder if I can
tell it not to update?
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
wrote:


  Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release
notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes

out

some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other
computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7
laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes
didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then,
reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to

associate

with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items

in

the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the

full

contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an
early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving

up

yet, but passing along my findings.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
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-Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Crossing over to the dark side was Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk 
Sometimes Linkedin has outdated information.  It's the responsibility of 
the account holder (if he/she chooses) to update his/her resume.

On 10/2/2017 10:31 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
> So far I have not hadFirefox update automatically. It occasionally asks 
> me to update and I say remind me later.
> 
> Just in case, I hate to admit it but, I'm using jaws.  Once I get more 
> comfortable with jaws I'll update to FF56.
> 
> It is breaking my heart not to use Window-eyes. today I've mostely used 
> jaws.  I did switch to W-e to see if I was missing something on a 
> website, but things were the same with W-e and jaws which means I must 
> be doing ok with jaws. I miss the sound of the tip of the day upon 
> start-up and the piano scale when exiting window-eyes.
> 
> Just for fun I did a search for Doug Geoffray and found an entry on 
> Linkedin. I could only access basic info (and once a day at that) 
> because I'm not a member.  It says he is still at VFO in compliance and 
> is working to make jaws compliant with other programs or something like 
> that.  I think someone said he announced on another list that he was 
> leaving vfo, but maybe he was just leaving an area of contact with 
> customers.  Maybe that is why jaws seems to work better lately.  It 
> would be nice to know doug was somewhere helping to make jaws as good as 
> Window-Eyes.
> 
> I think this FF issue will force alot of us to learn jaws - I need FF so 
> I'm sadly forced into it.
> 
> Brenda
> On 10/2/2017 12:33 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>> If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use 
>> internet
>> explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine 
>> for a
>> few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on 
>> win10?  NO.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Cc: Tony C
>> Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate
>>
>> Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more 
>> and
>> more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dennis Long via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
>> To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Cc: Dennis Long
>> Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen 
>> more
>> and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Cc: Matthew Chao
>> Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate
>>
>> Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, 
>> and when
>> I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I 
>> could
>> go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
>> happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Crossing over to the dark side was Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Brenda via Talk 
So far I have not hadFirefox update automatically. It occasionally asks 
me to update and I say remind me later.


Just in case, I hate to admit it but, I'm using jaws.  Once I get more 
comfortable with jaws I'll update to FF56.


It is breaking my heart not to use Window-eyes. today I've mostely used 
jaws.  I did switch to W-e to see if I was missing something on a 
website, but things were the same with W-e and jaws which means I must 
be doing ok with jaws. I miss the sound of the tip of the day upon 
start-up and the piano scale when exiting window-eyes.


Just for fun I did a search for Doug Geoffray and found an entry on 
Linkedin. I could only access basic info (and once a day at that) 
because I'm not a member.  It says he is still at VFO in compliance and 
is working to make jaws compliant with other programs or something like 
that.  I think someone said he announced on another list that he was 
leaving vfo, but maybe he was just leaving an area of contact with 
customers.  Maybe that is why jaws seems to work better lately.  It 
would be nice to know doug was somewhere helping to make jaws as good as 
Window-Eyes.


I think this FF issue will force alot of us to learn jaws - I need FF so 
I'm sadly forced into it.


Brenda
On 10/2/2017 12:33 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk 

Hi Denniws,

I copied that link from google. This time it is correct. I got this link 
that does work. I made sure it did.lol


https://nordvpn.com/

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:54 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

I get this message.
Page Not Found
Is the link not right?


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:23 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Denniws,

Here is the link to their web site. They have reduced it even further. You
can subscribe a month at a time or yearly. Annualy is of course much
cheaper. I am running windows 7 and it works great.

http://www.nordvpn.com/nord/vpn




-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:12 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
I get this message.
Page Not Found
Is the link not right?


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:23 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Denniws,

Here is the link to their web site. They have reduced it even further. You
can subscribe a month at a time or yearly. Annualy is of course much
cheaper. I am running windows 7 and it works great.

http://www.nordvpn.com/nord/vpn




-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:12 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk 

Hi Denniws,

Here is the link to their web site. They have reduced it even further. You 
can subscribe a month at a time or yearly. Annualy is of course much 
cheaper. I am running windows 7 and it works great.


http://www.nordvpn.com/nord/vpn




-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 9:12 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 3:46 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
Can you please send a link to there website?  Is there windows app
accessible.

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Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like
this one.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
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Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk 

Hi Dennis,

It is called Nord vpn. When I first installed it. The accessibility was 
almost non existant but it is around 95 per cent accessible now. I contacted 
them and they have done everything to help with accessibility. It costs $45 
or thereabouts per year. I know there are free ones out there but I like 
this one.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 8:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: bj colt
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
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Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
What vpn service are you using?

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On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that
a try.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread bj colt via Talk 

Hi Dennis,

I agree but intend to keep using firefox till it bites the dust. Although I 
use a vpn and I got an email it can now work with cdhrome. I might give that 
a try.


Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 5:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
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Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
If your using windows7 and are willing to jump through hoops IE use internet
explorer reinstall fire fox everytime it updates etc you will be fine for a
few years.  Do I think in 3 years you will be able to use WE on win10?  NO.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:12 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
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Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk 

NVDA is working very good with the latest firefox.



On 9/30/2017 10:23 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:




Lloyd, I don't use Firefox very much but am wondering if NVDA is 
handling the newer versions better.
Window-Eyes seems to be working ok with Internet Explorer so I can 
keep going with it for a while yet.


Cheers.


Ian Westerland




ian Westerland



On 10/1/2017 1:16 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
    Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their 
release notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, 
which comes out some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of 
other computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my 
Windows 7 laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being 
loaded; Window-Eyes didn't seem to recognize the correct file 
association for Firefox. Then, reading in the Control Panel and back 
out to Firefox, it began to associate with Firefox.set. But this 
didn't seem to help. I can still read the items in the tab order if 
MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the full contents 
of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an early 
warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving 
up yet, but passing along my findings.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 
Slam! Here's five G's on the table that says it will. Anyone care to 
match or raise me?

The King of diamonds


On 10/1/2017 9:44 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
It's my understanding that windows 10 creators fall edition will be 
released this month?  The big test will be will window eyes work with it?


-Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and 
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk 
It's my understanding that windows 10 creators fall edition will be released 
this month?  The big test will be will window eyes work with it?


-Original Message- 
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Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 

Interesting. I haven't noticed any new glitches with Windows updates.

Regarding Firefox? Mozilla has always been a thorn in the side of screen 
reader developers. Who knows what it stems from. Probably hallucinogenics.


Regards,
Tom




On 10/1/2017 7:12 AM, Tony C via Talk wrote:
Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more 
and more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.


-Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
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Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 
I reported this vary problem yesterday morning. Had to use NVDA and had 
no problems. Also gave Jaws a try and it worked fine. So I'd say it had 
to do with FX's updating to a new version.


On 9/30/2017 6:37 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and 
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I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What 
happened?--Matthew Chao.

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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread bj colt via Talk 

Hi

I'm puzzled as my friend lost all use of firefox yhet today he is using it 
normally. I don't know if he got someone to reinstall a previous version or 
not.


I can't use it but am tempted to go back to the previous version. It stopped 
working Thursday.


Yes n v d a and jws do work with firefox. I'm not sure why window-eyes 
doesn't. Then again from memory. I think this happened in the past with 
firefox and window-eyes. I will report it to firefox just in case they can 
resolve the situation.


Live long and prosper, John

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:12 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk 

With Window-Eyes you can use Firefox up through version 55.03, but not 56.0.
NVDA and JAWS should work fine with these newer Firefox versions.
I don't know whether it would be productive to put a bug report into the 
Firefox bug reporting system about Window-Eyes support or not.




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-Original Message- 
From: Sky Mundell via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:15 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
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Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

You can tell it not to update. I think if the new versions of Firefox isn't
working with Window-Eyes, it is a clear sign that Window-eyes is failing
with the new updates. I use JAWS and NVDA and both work fine with the new
updates because both of these products are being updated.

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Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

This is not good.  I  still use window-eyes and fire fox.  Wonder if I can
tell it not to update?
73
Butch
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
wrote:


  Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release
notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes

out

some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other
computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7
laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes
didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then,
reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to

associate

with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items

in

the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the

full

contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an
early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving

up

yet, but passing along my findings.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-01 Thread Tony C via Talk 
Yep! I've noticed that everytime Windows updates that WE develops more and 
more glitches. It's becoming less and less useable.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 8:54 PM
To: mattc...@verizon.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk 
You can tell it not to update. I think if the new versions of Firefox isn't
working with Window-Eyes, it is a clear sign that Window-eyes is failing
with the new updates. I use JAWS and NVDA and both work fine with the new
updates because both of these products are being updated.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:41 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Butch Bussen; mattc...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

This is not good.  I  still use window-eyes and fire fox.  Wonder if I can
tell it not to update?
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk 
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>   Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release 
> notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes
out 
> some time in November.
> I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other 
> computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7 
> laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes 
> didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then, 
> reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to
associate 
> with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items
in 
> the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the
full 
> contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an 
> early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving
up 
> yet, but passing along my findings.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Matthew Chao
> Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate
>
> Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
> when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
> I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
> happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
Yes you can. Its in the firefox settings.

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On September 30, 2017 10:58:30 PM Butch Bussen via Talk
 wrote:

> This is not good.  I  still use window-eyes and fire fox.  Wonder if I
> can tell it not to update?
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
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> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
> wrote:
>
>>   Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release
>> notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes out
>> some time in November.
>> I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other
>> computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7
>> laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes
>> didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then,
>> reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to associate
>> with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items in
>> the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the full
>> contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an
>> early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving up
>> yet, but passing along my findings.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Cc: Matthew Chao
>> Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate
>>
>> Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
>> when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
>> I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
>> happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk 
This is not good.  I  still use window-eyes and fire fox.  Wonder if I 
can tell it not to update?

73
Butch
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Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk 
wrote:


  Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release 
notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes out 
some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other 
computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7 
laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes 
didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then, 
reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to associate 
with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items in 
the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the full 
contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be an 
early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving up 
yet, but passing along my findings.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Ian Westerland via Talk 




Lloyd, I don't use Firefox very much but am wondering if NVDA is 
handling the newer versions better.
Window-Eyes seems to be working ok with Internet Explorer so I can keep 
going with it for a while yet.


Cheers.


Ian Westerland




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On 10/1/2017 1:16 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
    Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their 
release notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, 
which comes out some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of 
other computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my 
Windows 7 laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; 
Window-Eyes didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for 
Firefox. Then, reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it 
began to associate with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can 
still read the items in the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this 
isn't helpful in reading the full contents of a page. More investigation 
is called for, but this may be an early warning sign of the lack of 
support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving up yet, but passing along my 
findings.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
happened?--Matthew Chao.
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Re: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk 
   Version 56 has come out in the last few days. VFO said in their release 
notes that they had done some work to prepare for version 57, which comes 
out some time in November.
I thought I had been successfully running version 56 on a couple of other 
computers, but now I'm not quite so sure. Tonight I updated my Windows 7 
laptop to version 56. At first, no SET file was being loaded; Window-Eyes 
didn't seem to recognize the correct file association for Firefox. Then, 
reading in the Control Panel and back out to Firefox, it began to associate 
with Firefox.set. But this didn't seem to help. I can still read the items 
in the tab order if MSAA mode is off, but this isn't helpful in reading the 
full contents of a page. More investigation is called for, but this may be 
an early warning sign of the lack of support for Window-Eyes. I'm not giving 
up yet, but passing along my findings.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Chao via Talk

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:37 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Matthew Chao
Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and
when I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before
I could go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
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RE: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-09-30 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
Unfortunately I don't think you can do much.  This is what will happen more
and more with WE.  Jaws updated to fix  a firefox release.

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Subject: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

Hi, any Window-Eyes Users Still Out There.  I just updated Firefox, and when
I try to navigate with MSAA mode on, I just get a ding where before I could
go up and down the page.  How can I change it so it works?  What
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